TR: I love the sound of a Hardy in the Morning - a little wordy

[Wayne Knight]

Pulled into Grayling MI about 2 in the am on Saturday thanks to the
Indianapolis rush hour and some dude who blew by me deciding to take out the
lanes a few miles up the road.

Got the wakeup call at a Gawdawful hour and found myself on the banks of the
Au Sable near Smith Bridge with a large cup of coffee in one hand a Mauer
4wt cane in the other as the sun was rising. The air temp was in the low
30's I did not have great expectations other than to enjoy my coffee
streamside. But then again it is Northern Michigan and the fish endure 6-7
months of winter every year and the Au Sable is a Spring Creek :) While
there were no signs of rising fish there were some spinners on the water. I
tied on a size soft hackle emerger pattern and began casting into the foam
lines and riffles against the far bank. After the fourth drift, the fly
hung up on a log or some such. I pulled it free and proceeded on down
stream. A few drifts later a fish flashed at the fly as it finished the
drift, I went to set the hook and it pulled free, I drifted the fly again,
again a fish struck and again the fly pulled free. Two Drifts, two strikes,
two misses. I figure I'm a little rusty so I cast again in the same area
nothing. I move down a few steps and cast again, again a strike and again a
miss. I might be a little slow but I catch on sooner or later and checked
the hook. The Tiemco had broken halfway up the bend, guess I should have
used Mustads. It just meant I didn't have to wash the fish smell off of my
hands when I went to get the wife from the motel for breakfast. :)

The sun had come up full by now and it was a bright sunny day with very
little cloud cover. After breakfast my wife dropped me off at the Fly
Factory where I met up with a friend and off we went to the Manistee. Under
those conditions we did not think we would be doing a whole lot of catching
but the canoe traffic would be minimal and there were parts of this river I
wanted to see in the daytime and mark for exploration during next year's hex
hatch.

We put the boat in at the "Hole in the Wall" and proceeded on down stream.
The Manistee is a gin clear slow flowing river with lots of deep holes and
dead falls but very little riffle water which on a bright day like Saturday
makes the fishing tough. I tied a little Robert's yellow drake to the tippet
and proceeded to toss the fly into shady spots using a little 3wt glass rod.
In the next five hours we had a blast catching little Michigan Brookies and
one little brown trout. In between the brookies, beer, and malt, I made sure
I marked the interesting holes into the GPS unit for further exploration.
I'd like to say I caught a bunch of big fish but the brown was barely 7" and
the brookies were in the four - six inch range. But I was on the river and
not back in Indy mowing the yard. After about 5 hours we came to the take
out point and made our way back to Grayling.

After a decent prime rib and shrimp dinner at the Holiday Inn I spent the
next few hours killing a bottle of 21yo Balvenie on porch of the Fly
Factory with some friends and making plans for next years trout bum bbq.
After the malt was disposed of, I headed back for the night.

Sunday came early and I was more intent on walking the state lands near the
Manistee for Grouse and Woodcock habitat than I was interested in fishing
but I strung up a rod anyway and tossed a fly box in the shirt pocket. Again
it was too early and even colder than Saturday. The thermometer in the car
read 31 when I got out of the car.
I walked a ways, marked some birdie spots for future reference and found the
river to rest as I keep putting off my hip replacement and I was reminded
just how much out of shape I have become. I tied on a parachute hopper and
then tied a parachute Borchers Drake off the hopper. Before I cast, I
trimmed the hackle and the post so the fly would sink. I walked out to a
bend and cast against a big sweeper laying out in the stream. The first
couple of casts were just embarrasing and any fish that hit those drifts
would had to have been suicidal. I rested a few minutes, reminded myself
that i was not casting cane and glass anymore and went back at it. I cast
off the same sweeper and got a great drift, as the hopper floated just past
the end of the sweeper, it hessitated and I lifted the rod. All hell then
proceeded to break loose. The fish took off downstream, but I was not
wearing waders and I was not going to wet wade at that air and water temp so
I had to depend upon rod and the reel to do the work. The Hardy Perfect was
singing its song but since I had a five weight and 3X tippet I figured I
could apply some pressure and began trying to force the fish back in. I
would get the fish close and it would take off again. It even decided to
make like a Rainbow and try a jump but for once I was controlling the line
and the barbless hook stayed in place. This went on for a few minutes when I
finally got the fish close enough for a good look. As i suspected it was a
brown, and it might have exceeded 20" but as luck would have it I was not
going to find out for sure. As I got it close to the bank, it decided to
make one more run, and i was not quick enough to palm the reel and it made
for the bottom of hole behind the deadfall. I saw it swim in circles at the
of the pool wrapping my tippet around the limbs. I gave it a tug but it
wasn't going anywere. So I tugged harder and broke off the tippet, cussed a
little made a mental note to revisit when I come back in September.

All in all it was a fun weekend and it helped lessen the sting of going from
45 to 46. I will be back :)

[Mu Young Lee]

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Wayne Knight wrote:

> Pulled into Grayling MI about 2 in the am on Saturday thanks to the
> Indianapolis rush hour and some dude who blew by me deciding to take out the
> lanes a few miles up the road.

<snip>

> I tied a little Robert's yellow drake to the tippet
> and proceeded to toss the fly into shady spots using a little 3wt glass rod.

<snip>

> then tied a parachute Borchers Drake off the hopper.

I've forgotten what it's like to tie on big flies since moving out west.
Last trout I hooked on top was with a size 24 midge on California's Hot
Creek. I need to sneak in a trip back to Michigan one of these days.

Mu
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[Mu Young Lee]

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Wayne Knight wrote:

> Pulled into Grayling MI about 2 in the am on Saturday thanks to the
> Indianapolis rush hour and some dude who blew by me deciding to take out the
> lanes a few miles up the road.

<snip>

> I tied a little Robert's yellow drake to the tippet
> and proceeded to toss the fly into shady spots using a little 3wt glass rod.

<snip>

> then tied a parachute Borchers Drake off the hopper.

I've forgotten what it's like to tie on big flies since moving out west.
Last trout I hooked on top was with a size 24 midge on California's Hot
Creek. I need to sneak in a trip back to Michigan one of these days.

Mu
__________________________________________________ _____________________
\ Mu Young Lee
remove all dashes and underscores in reply address

[Dave Martel]

There's *nothing* in flyfishing like the sweet purr of a Hardy. I have an
LRH; a JLH; and my newest...a Bougle. The Bougle was purring on big Missouri
River Bows...gotta love those reels. The Abels stayed in the van most of
that trip.

Dave M
"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
> Pulled into Grayling MI about 2 in the am on Saturday thanks to the
> Indianapolis rush hour and some dude who blew by me deciding to take out
the
> lanes a few miles up the road.
>
> Got the wakeup call at a Gawdawful hour and found myself on the banks of
the
> Au Sable near Smith Bridge with a large cup of coffee in one hand a Mauer
> 4wt cane in the other as the sun was rising. The air temp was in the low
> 30's I did not have great expectations other than to enjoy my coffee
> streamside. But then again it is Northern Michigan and the fish endure 6-7
> months of winter every year and the Au Sable is a Spring Creek :) While
> there were no signs of rising fish there were some spinners on the water.
I
> tied on a size soft hackle emerger pattern and began casting into the foam
> lines and riffles against the far bank. After the fourth drift, the fly
> hung up on a log or some such. I pulled it free and proceeded on down
> stream. A few drifts later a fish flashed at the fly as it finished the
> drift, I went to set the hook and it pulled free, I drifted the fly again,
> again a fish struck and again the fly pulled free. Two Drifts, two
strikes,
> two misses. I figure I'm a little rusty so I cast again in the same area
> nothing. I move down a few steps and cast again, again a strike and again
a
> miss. I might be a little slow but I catch on sooner or later and checked
> the hook. The Tiemco had broken halfway up the bend, guess I should have
> used Mustads. It just meant I didn't have to wash the fish smell off of my
> hands when I went to get the wife from the motel for breakfast. :)
>
> The sun had come up full by now and it was a bright sunny day with very
> little cloud cover. After breakfast my wife dropped me off at the Fly
> Factory where I met up with a friend and off we went to the Manistee.
Under
> those conditions we did not think we would be doing a whole lot of
catching
> but the canoe traffic would be minimal and there were parts of this river
I
> wanted to see in the daytime and mark for exploration during next year's
hex
> hatch.
>
> We put the boat in at the "Hole in the Wall" and proceeded on down stream.
> The Manistee is a gin clear slow flowing river with lots of deep holes and
> dead falls but very little riffle water which on a bright day like
Saturday
> makes the fishing tough. I tied a little Robert's yellow drake to the
tippet
> and proceeded to toss the fly into shady spots using a little 3wt glass
rod.
> In the next five hours we had a blast catching little Michigan Brookies
and
> one little brown trout. In between the brookies, beer, and malt, I made
sure
> I marked the interesting holes into the GPS unit for further exploration.
> I'd like to say I caught a bunch of big fish but the brown was barely 7"
and
> the brookies were in the four - six inch range. But I was on the river and
> not back in Indy mowing the yard. After about 5 hours we came to the take
> out point and made our way back to Grayling.
>
> After a decent prime rib and shrimp dinner at the Holiday Inn I spent the
> next few hours killing a bottle of 21yo Balvenie on porch of the Fly
> Factory with some friends and making plans for next years trout bum bbq.
> After the malt was disposed of, I headed back for the night.
>
> Sunday came early and I was more intent on walking the state lands near
the
> Manistee for Grouse and Woodcock habitat than I was interested in fishing
> but I strung up a rod anyway and tossed a fly box in the shirt pocket.
Again
> it was too early and even colder than Saturday. The thermometer in the car
> read 31 when I got out of the car.
> I walked a ways, marked some birdie spots for future reference and found
the
> river to rest as I keep putting off my hip replacement and I was reminded
> just how much out of shape I have become. I tied on a parachute hopper and
> then tied a parachute Borchers Drake off the hopper. Before I cast, I
> trimmed the hackle and the post so the fly would sink. I walked out to a
> bend and cast against a big sweeper laying out in the stream. The first
> couple of casts were just embarrasing and any fish that hit those drifts
> would had to have been suicidal. I rested a few minutes, reminded myself
> that i was not casting cane and glass anymore and went back at it. I cast
> off the same sweeper and got a great drift, as the hopper floated just
past
> the end of the sweeper, it hessitated and I lifted the rod. All hell then
> proceeded to break loose. The fish took off downstream, but I was not
> wearing waders and I was not going to wet wade at that air and water temp
so
> I had to depend upon rod and the reel to do the work. The Hardy Perfect
was
> singing its song but since I had a five weight and 3X tippet I figured I
> could apply some pressure and began trying to force the fish back in. I
> would get the fish close and it would take off again. It even decided to
> make like a Rainbow and try a jump but for once I was controlling the line
> and the barbless hook stayed in place. This went on for a few minutes when
I
> finally got the fish close enough for a good look. As i suspected it was a
> brown, and it might have exceeded 20" but as luck would have it I was not
> going to find out for sure. As I got it close to the bank, it decided to
> make one more run, and i was not quick enough to palm the reel and it made
> for the bottom of hole behind the deadfall. I saw it swim in circles at
the
> of the pool wrapping my tippet around the limbs. I gave it a tug but it
> wasn't going anywere. So I tugged harder and broke off the tippet, cussed
a
> little made a mental note to revisit when I come back in September.
>
> All in all it was a fun weekend and it helped lessen the sting of going
from
> 45 to 46. I will be back :)
>
>

[William Claspy]

On 8/24/04 11:24 PM, in article
, "Wayne Knight"
> wrote:

> Pulled into Grayling MI about 2 in the am on Saturday thanks to the
> Indianapolis rush hour and some dude who blew by me deciding to take out the
> lanes a few miles up the road.
<snip>

Great report, Wayne. I'm headed up that direction at dark-thirty tomorrow
and your write up has me itching all the more to get on the road!

Oh, and many happy returns!

Bill

[William Claspy]

On 8/24/04 11:24 PM, in article
, "Wayne Knight"
> wrote:

> Pulled into Grayling MI about 2 in the am on Saturday thanks to the
> Indianapolis rush hour and some dude who blew by me deciding to take out the
> lanes a few miles up the road.
<snip>

Great report, Wayne. I'm headed up that direction at dark-thirty tomorrow
and your write up has me itching all the more to get on the road!

Oh, and many happy returns!

Bill

[Ken Fortenberry]

Wayne Knight wrote:
> Pulled into Grayling MI ...
> <nice TR snipped>
> All in all it was a fun weekend and it helped lessen the sting of going from
> 45 to 46. I will be back :)

Happy Birthday, youngun'. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Ken Fortenberry]

Wayne Knight wrote:
> Pulled into Grayling MI ...
> <nice TR snipped>
> All in all it was a fun weekend and it helped lessen the sting of going from
> 45 to 46. I will be back :)

Happy Birthday, youngun'. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

[riverman]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
> All in all it was a fun weekend and it helped lessen the sting of going
from
> 45 to 46. I will be back :)
>
>

45 to 46 stings? And you need a new hip? I'm ****ed, then. Thursdays my big
45-to-46 day.

--riverman

[riverman]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
> All in all it was a fun weekend and it helped lessen the sting of going
from
> 45 to 46. I will be back :)
>
>

45 to 46 stings? And you need a new hip? I'm ****ed, then. Thursdays my big
45-to-46 day.

--riverman

[Wayne Knight]

"Mu Young Lee" > wrote in message
td.umich.edu...

> I've forgotten what it's like to tie on big flies since moving out west.
> Last trout I hooked on top was with a size 24 midge on California's Hot
> Creek.

Tell me about it, except for a couple of fish on a bunny leech at the juan,
i've not hooked a trout in the three states I've fished west of the
Mississippi and anything bigger than a 20.

> I need to sneak in a trip back to Michigan one of these days.

Just tell me when.

[Wayne Knight]

"Dave Martel" > wrote in message
...
> There's *nothing* in flyfishing like the sweet purr of a Hardy. I have an
> LRH; a JLH; and my newest...a Bougle. The Bougle was purring on big
Missouri
> River Bows...gotta love those reels. The Abels stayed in the van most of
> that trip.
>

There's actually been people who have posted here complaining about the
"noise" Hardy and other similar reels make. Poor misquided souls.
Love those Bougle's and JLH's. There's a new grass stick in my future and I
think I'm going to put one of the Angel's on it.

[Wayne Knight]

"Dave Martel" > wrote in message
...
> There's *nothing* in flyfishing like the sweet purr of a Hardy. I have an
> LRH; a JLH; and my newest...a Bougle. The Bougle was purring on big
Missouri
> River Bows...gotta love those reels. The Abels stayed in the van most of
> that trip.
>

There's actually been people who have posted here complaining about the
"noise" Hardy and other similar reels make. Poor misquided souls.
Love those Bougle's and JLH's. There's a new grass stick in my future and I
think I'm going to put one of the Angel's on it.

[Wayne Knight]

"William Claspy" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/24/04 11:24 PM, in article
> , "Wayne Knight"
> > wrote:
>
>
> Great report, Wayne. I'm headed up that direction at dark-thirty tomorrow
> and your write up has me itching all the more to get on the road!
>
> Oh, and many happy returns!
>

thanks Bill, have a great trip and remember to keep the week after Father's
day free next year.

[Wayne Knight]

"William Claspy" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/24/04 11:24 PM, in article
> , "Wayne Knight"
> > wrote:
>
>
> Great report, Wayne. I'm headed up that direction at dark-thirty tomorrow
> and your write up has me itching all the more to get on the road!
>
> Oh, and many happy returns!
>

thanks Bill, have a great trip and remember to keep the week after Father's
day free next year.

[Wayne Knight]

"riverman" > wrote in message
...
>

> 45 to 46 stings? And you need a new hip? I'm ****ed, then.

For me it stings anyway but I'll get over it. Problem is I not only need a
new hip but I also need a new knee on the same side and we can't decide
which to do first. That and I still have some mobility, just not much
endurance. Motrin is a wonderful thing.

>Thursdays my big 45-to-46 day.

For some reason I pegged you as younger. Between you and Mr. Reid, I might
as well be 65 next to you two.

Happy Birthday.
> --riverman
>
>
>

[Wayne Knight]

"riverman" > wrote in message
...
>

> 45 to 46 stings? And you need a new hip? I'm ****ed, then.

For me it stings anyway but I'll get over it. Problem is I not only need a
new hip but I also need a new knee on the same side and we can't decide
which to do first. That and I still have some mobility, just not much
endurance. Motrin is a wonderful thing.

>Thursdays my big 45-to-46 day.

For some reason I pegged you as younger. Between you and Mr. Reid, I might
as well be 65 next to you two.

Happy Birthday.
> --riverman
>
>
>

[Wayne Knight]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
m...

> Happy Birthday, youngun'. ;-)

thanks ken

[Wayne Knight]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
m...

> Happy Birthday, youngun'. ;-)

thanks ken

[daytripper]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:18:52 GMT, "Wayne Knight" > wrote:

>
>"Dave Martel" > wrote in message
...
>> There's *nothing* in flyfishing like the sweet purr of a Hardy. I have an
>> LRH; a JLH; and my newest...a Bougle. The Bougle was purring on big
>Missouri
>> River Bows...gotta love those reels. The Abels stayed in the van most of
>> that trip.
>>
>
>There's actually been people who have posted here complaining about the
>"noise" Hardy and other similar reels make. Poor misquided souls.
>Love those Bougle's and JLH's. There's a new grass stick in my future and I
>think I'm going to put one of the Angel's on it.

I ain't one that complains, and none of my Hardys "purr"...

/daytripper (SCREEEAM BLOODY 'ELL, yes. Purr, no...)

[daytripper]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:18:52 GMT, "Wayne Knight" > wrote:

>
>"Dave Martel" > wrote in message
...
>> There's *nothing* in flyfishing like the sweet purr of a Hardy. I have an
>> LRH; a JLH; and my newest...a Bougle. The Bougle was purring on big
>Missouri
>> River Bows...gotta love those reels. The Abels stayed in the van most of
>> that trip.
>>
>
>There's actually been people who have posted here complaining about the
>"noise" Hardy and other similar reels make. Poor misquided souls.
>Love those Bougle's and JLH's. There's a new grass stick in my future and I
>think I'm going to put one of the Angel's on it.

I ain't one that complains, and none of my Hardys "purr"...

/daytripper (SCREEEAM BLOODY 'ELL, yes. Purr, no...)

[Frank Reid]

> All in all it was a fun weekend and it helped lessen the sting of going
> from
> 45 to 46. I will be back :)

Yah know, the tradition is that once you pass 45, you start handing out
presents to your senior friends. I'll take one of your spare T&T 4 wts.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply (46 and not countin')

[Frank Reid]

> All in all it was a fun weekend and it helped lessen the sting of going
> from
> 45 to 46. I will be back :)

Yah know, the tradition is that once you pass 45, you start handing out
presents to your senior friends. I'll take one of your spare T&T 4 wts.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply (46 and not countin')

[Frank Reid]

>>Thursdays my big 45-to-46 day.
>
> For some reason I pegged you as younger. Between you and Mr. Reid, I might
> as well be 65 next to you two.
>
> Happy Birthday.
>> --riverman

Hey, hey, HEY! No artificial joints here (okay, the ones in my feet don't
count).

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

[Frank Reid]

>>Thursdays my big 45-to-46 day.
>
> For some reason I pegged you as younger. Between you and Mr. Reid, I might
> as well be 65 next to you two.
>
> Happy Birthday.
>> --riverman

Hey, hey, HEY! No artificial joints here (okay, the ones in my feet don't
count).

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

[Wayne Knight]

"Frank Reid" <moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf> wrote in message
...

> Yah know, the tradition is that once you pass 45, you start handing out
> presents to your senior friends. I'll take one of your spare T&T 4 wts.

No problem, just as soon as I get one of your spare checks in return as a
birthday gift ;)

[Wayne Knight]

"Frank Reid" <moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf> wrote in message
...

> Yah know, the tradition is that once you pass 45, you start handing out
> presents to your senior friends. I'll take one of your spare T&T 4 wts.

No problem, just as soon as I get one of your spare checks in return as a
birthday gift ;)

[Wolfgang]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "Mu Young Lee" > wrote in message
> td.umich.edu...
>
> > I've forgotten what it's like to tie on big flies since moving out west.
> > Last trout I hooked on top was with a size 24 midge on California's Hot
> > Creek.
>
> Tell me about it, except for a couple of fish on a bunny leech at the
juan,
> i've not hooked a trout in the three states I've fished west of the
> Mississippi and anything bigger than a 20.
>
> > I need to sneak in a trip back to Michigan one of these days.
>
> Just tell me when.

Billy Books (the *******!) is on his way some time before dawn. :(

In an email exchange (which, miraculously, did not get posted to ROFF)
earlier today, he and I agreed that we MUST do an expedition to the L.P.
holy waters next year......in addition to the planned U.P. clave. He voted
for the hex hatch. I'm game......but the dates must be fixed far in
advance.....too many trips have failed to materialize for want of being
fixed and on the calendar.

Wolfgang

[Wayne Knight]

"Wolfgang" > wrote in message
...
>
> he and I agreed that we MUST do an expedition to the L.P.
> holy waters next year......in addition to the planned U.P. clave. He
voted
> for the hex hatch. I'm game......but the dates must be fixed far in
> advance.....too many trips have failed to materialize for want of being
> fixed and on the calendar.

What started as a clave of folks from the old compuserve fly fishing program
has turned into an annual get together the 4th week of June. In the 10 years
I have been going there we've hit the hex about half the time, two years
(1996 and 2004) there was not crap happening except for a lot of drinking
and BSing while the other three were solid into the brown drakes.

Barring some event which means I 'm no longer amongst the living, I will be
in Grayling from June 22nd through June 26th, with one of the weekdays
tentative for a visit to a certain dead lawyers' shack and pond. I can't
promise you the hex but I think you will like most of the company.

We're in the process of changing the focus of our little event from a fund
raiser back to a fishing trip if you would like.

If you're that dead set on getting the hex tho, I would suggest sometime
right after the 4th of July.

Those dates far enough in advance for you?

[Wayne Knight]

"Wolfgang" > wrote in message
...
>
> he and I agreed that we MUST do an expedition to the L.P.
> holy waters next year......in addition to the planned U.P. clave. He
voted
> for the hex hatch. I'm game......but the dates must be fixed far in
> advance.....too many trips have failed to materialize for want of being
> fixed and on the calendar.

What started as a clave of folks from the old compuserve fly fishing program
has turned into an annual get together the 4th week of June. In the 10 years
I have been going there we've hit the hex about half the time, two years
(1996 and 2004) there was not crap happening except for a lot of drinking
and BSing while the other three were solid into the brown drakes.

Barring some event which means I 'm no longer amongst the living, I will be
in Grayling from June 22nd through June 26th, with one of the weekdays
tentative for a visit to a certain dead lawyers' shack and pond. I can't
promise you the hex but I think you will like most of the company.

We're in the process of changing the focus of our little event from a fund
raiser back to a fishing trip if you would like.

If you're that dead set on getting the hex tho, I would suggest sometime
right after the 4th of July.

Those dates far enough in advance for you?

[rw]

Wayne Knight wrote:
> "Dave Martel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>There's *nothing* in flyfishing like the sweet purr of a Hardy. I have an
>>LRH; a JLH; and my newest...a Bougle. The Bougle was purring on big
>
> Missouri
>
>>River Bows...gotta love those reels. The Abels stayed in the van most of
>>that trip.
>>
>
>
> There's actually been people who have posted here complaining about the
> "noise" Hardy and other similar reels make. Poor misquided souls.

I don't like noisy click and pawl reels.

> Love those Bougle's and JLH's. There's a new grass stick in my future and I
> think I'm going to put one of the Angel's on it.

I don't like bamboo rods, either.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[Wayne Knight]

"rw" > wrote in message
...
>
> I don't like noisy click and pawl reels.
> [snip]
> I don't like bamboo rods, either.
>

so you're a misguided putz ;)

[rw]

Wayne Knight wrote:
> "rw" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I don't like noisy click and pawl reels.
>>[snip]
>>I don't like bamboo rods, either.
>>
>
>
> so you're a misguided putz ;)

I don't like Fortenberry, either. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[Wolfgang]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
. com...
> "Wolfgang" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > he and I agreed that we MUST do an expedition to the L.P.
> > holy waters next year......in addition to the planned U.P. clave.
He
> voted
> > for the hex hatch. I'm game......but the dates must be fixed far
in
> > advance.....too many trips have failed to materialize for want of
being
> > fixed and on the calendar.
>
> What started as a clave of folks from the old compuserve fly fishing
program
> has turned into an annual get together the 4th week of June. In the
10 years
> I have been going there we've hit the hex about half the time, two
years
> (1996 and 2004) there was not crap happening except for a lot of
drinking
> and BSing while the other three were solid into the brown drakes.
>
> Barring some event which means I 'm no longer amongst the living, I
will be
> in Grayling from June 22nd through June 26th, with one of the
weekdays
> tentative for a visit to a certain dead lawyers' shack and pond. I
can't
> promise you the hex but I think you will like most of the company.
>
> We're in the process of changing the focus of our little event from
a fund
> raiser back to a fishing trip if you would like.
>
> If you're that dead set on getting the hex tho, I would suggest
sometime
> right after the 4th of July.
>
> Those dates far enough in advance for you?

22nd-26th of June will do nicely. It's on the calendar. :)

Wolfgang

[Wolfgang]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
. com...
> "Wolfgang" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > he and I agreed that we MUST do an expedition to the L.P.
> > holy waters next year......in addition to the planned U.P. clave.
He
> voted
> > for the hex hatch. I'm game......but the dates must be fixed far
in
> > advance.....too many trips have failed to materialize for want of
being
> > fixed and on the calendar.
>
> What started as a clave of folks from the old compuserve fly fishing
program
> has turned into an annual get together the 4th week of June. In the
10 years
> I have been going there we've hit the hex about half the time, two
years
> (1996 and 2004) there was not crap happening except for a lot of
drinking
> and BSing while the other three were solid into the brown drakes.
>
> Barring some event which means I 'm no longer amongst the living, I
will be
> in Grayling from June 22nd through June 26th, with one of the
weekdays
> tentative for a visit to a certain dead lawyers' shack and pond. I
can't
> promise you the hex but I think you will like most of the company.
>
> We're in the process of changing the focus of our little event from
a fund
> raiser back to a fishing trip if you would like.
>
> If you're that dead set on getting the hex tho, I would suggest
sometime
> right after the 4th of July.
>
> Those dates far enough in advance for you?

22nd-26th of June will do nicely. It's on the calendar. :)

Wolfgang

[Dave Martel]

Wayne;

On the Missouri I was playing a hot Bow when two sports came by in a
drift-boat; and one said to the Guide "What a *loud* reel that guy has". (I
was using the Bougle at the time). The Guide smiled; and said "He's playing
a trout, that reel sounds fine to me".

I really wanted to reply to the guy...but had my hands full at the moment.
Those new Angels look great to me...I see one in my future also>

Dave
"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dave Martel" > wrote in message
> ...
> > There's *nothing* in flyfishing like the sweet purr of a Hardy. I have
an
> > LRH; a JLH; and my newest...a Bougle. The Bougle was purring on big
> Missouri
> > River Bows...gotta love those reels. The Abels stayed in the van most of
> > that trip.
> >
>
> There's actually been people who have posted here complaining about the
> "noise" Hardy and other similar reels make. Poor misquided souls.
> Love those Bougle's and JLH's. There's a new grass stick in my future and
I
> think I'm going to put one of the Angel's on it.
>
>
>
>

[Dave Martel]

Wayne;

On the Missouri I was playing a hot Bow when two sports came by in a
drift-boat; and one said to the Guide "What a *loud* reel that guy has". (I
was using the Bougle at the time). The Guide smiled; and said "He's playing
a trout, that reel sounds fine to me".

I really wanted to reply to the guy...but had my hands full at the moment.
Those new Angels look great to me...I see one in my future also>

Dave
"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dave Martel" > wrote in message
> ...
> > There's *nothing* in flyfishing like the sweet purr of a Hardy. I have
an
> > LRH; a JLH; and my newest...a Bougle. The Bougle was purring on big
> Missouri
> > River Bows...gotta love those reels. The Abels stayed in the van most of
> > that trip.
> >
>
> There's actually been people who have posted here complaining about the
> "noise" Hardy and other similar reels make. Poor misquided souls.
> Love those Bougle's and JLH's. There's a new grass stick in my future and
I
> think I'm going to put one of the Angel's on it.
>
>
>
>

[Dave Martel]

Trip;

The JLH's and LRH's screem bloody hell.....but the Bougle
"purrs".(Somewhat loudly...to be sure)

Dave M
"daytripper" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:18:52 GMT, "Wayne Knight" >
wrote:
>
> >
> >"Dave Martel" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> There's *nothing* in flyfishing like the sweet purr of a Hardy. I have
an
> >> LRH; a JLH; and my newest...a Bougle. The Bougle was purring on big
> >Missouri
> >> River Bows...gotta love those reels. The Abels stayed in the van most
of
> >> that trip.
> >>
> >
> >There's actually been people who have posted here complaining about the
> >"noise" Hardy and other similar reels make. Poor misquided souls.
> >Love those Bougle's and JLH's. There's a new grass stick in my future and
I
> >think I'm going to put one of the Angel's on it.
>
> I ain't one that complains, and none of my Hardys "purr"...
>
> /daytripper (SCREEEAM BLOODY 'ELL, yes. Purr, no...)

[Dave Martel]

Trip;

The JLH's and LRH's screem bloody hell.....but the Bougle
"purrs".(Somewhat loudly...to be sure)

Dave M
"daytripper" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:18:52 GMT, "Wayne Knight" >
wrote:
>
> >
> >"Dave Martel" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> There's *nothing* in flyfishing like the sweet purr of a Hardy. I have
an
> >> LRH; a JLH; and my newest...a Bougle. The Bougle was purring on big
> >Missouri
> >> River Bows...gotta love those reels. The Abels stayed in the van most
of
> >> that trip.
> >>
> >
> >There's actually been people who have posted here complaining about the
> >"noise" Hardy and other similar reels make. Poor misquided souls.
> >Love those Bougle's and JLH's. There's a new grass stick in my future and
I
> >think I'm going to put one of the Angel's on it.
>
> I ain't one that complains, and none of my Hardys "purr"...
>
> /daytripper (SCREEEAM BLOODY 'ELL, yes. Purr, no...)

[Danl]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
> There's actually been people who have posted here complaining about the
> "noise" Hardy and other similar reels make. Poor misquided souls.
> Love those Bougle's and JLH's. There's a new grass stick in my future and
I
> think I'm going to put one of the Angel's on it.


Wayne, I've got a Bougle with less than 10 hours fishing on it and I don't
care for the style, design, functionality OR the clatter. If you're
interested in a possible sale/swap, drop me an email.

Danl

[Danl]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
> There's actually been people who have posted here complaining about the
> "noise" Hardy and other similar reels make. Poor misquided souls.
> Love those Bougle's and JLH's. There's a new grass stick in my future and
I
> think I'm going to put one of the Angel's on it.


Wayne, I've got a Bougle with less than 10 hours fishing on it and I don't
care for the style, design, functionality OR the clatter. If you're
interested in a possible sale/swap, drop me an email.

Danl

[Willi]

Danl wrote:

> "Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>There's actually been people who have posted here complaining about the
>>"noise" Hardy and other similar reels make. Poor misquided souls.
>>Love those Bougle's and JLH's. There's a new grass stick in my future and
>
> I
>
>>think I'm going to put one of the Angel's on it.
>
>
>
> Wayne, I've got a Bougle with less than 10 hours fishing on it and I don't
> care for the style, design, functionality OR the clatter. If you're
> interested in a possible sale/swap, drop me an email.
>
> Danl
>
>

If you're still interested in a click and pawl reel, the discontinued
Redington CT's are excellent reels. You can usually pick them up for
about $50 on EBay. I bought my first for $100 and I thought it was a
steal at that price. They make an especially good reel for light
outfits, 4 weight and below. They're solid, well made reels and are
light in weight. (And the click isn't obnoxious, IMO)

Willi

[Willi]

Danl wrote:

> "Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>There's actually been people who have posted here complaining about the
>>"noise" Hardy and other similar reels make. Poor misquided souls.
>>Love those Bougle's and JLH's. There's a new grass stick in my future and
>
> I
>
>>think I'm going to put one of the Angel's on it.
>
>
>
> Wayne, I've got a Bougle with less than 10 hours fishing on it and I don't
> care for the style, design, functionality OR the clatter. If you're
> interested in a possible sale/swap, drop me an email.
>
> Danl
>
>

If you're still interested in a click and pawl reel, the discontinued
Redington CT's are excellent reels. You can usually pick them up for
about $50 on EBay. I bought my first for $100 and I thought it was a
steal at that price. They make an especially good reel for light
outfits, 4 weight and below. They're solid, well made reels and are
light in weight. (And the click isn't obnoxious, IMO)

Willi

[Jonathan Cook]

rw > wrote in message >...

> I don't like noisy click and pawl reels.

Hear, hear. I don't know who decided fly reels *ought* to
make noise, but imo it's whacko. It wouldn't be so bad if
it was only when a fish peeled line, but it's also anytime
I strip line off the reel. I like peace and quiet when I'm
fishing.

Jon.

[Jonathan Cook]

rw > wrote in message >...

> I don't like noisy click and pawl reels.

Hear, hear. I don't know who decided fly reels *ought* to
make noise, but imo it's whacko. It wouldn't be so bad if
it was only when a fish peeled line, but it's also anytime
I strip line off the reel. I like peace and quiet when I'm
fishing.

Jon.

[George Adams]

>From: (Jonathan Cook)

>Hear, hear. I don't know who decided fly reels *ought* to
>make noise, but imo it's whacko. It wouldn't be so bad if
>it was only when a fish peeled line, but it's also anytime
>I strip line off the reel. I like peace and quiet when I'm
>fishing.

I'm on the fence on this one.....I love hearing my CFO scream when I have a
good fish on, but it does ger a little annoying when stripping line.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

[George Adams]

>From: (Jonathan Cook)

>Hear, hear. I don't know who decided fly reels *ought* to
>make noise, but imo it's whacko. It wouldn't be so bad if
>it was only when a fish peeled line, but it's also anytime
>I strip line off the reel. I like peace and quiet when I'm
>fishing.

I'm on the fence on this one.....I love hearing my CFO scream when I have a
good fish on, but it does ger a little annoying when stripping line.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

[Wayne Knight]

"rw" > wrote in message
...
>
> I don't like Fortenberry, either. :-)
>

I suspect Fortenberry would be hard to fish with, probably ok on the forward
stroke but on the back cast I doubt there would be much in the way of flex.
After a while the arm would get kind of tired too as he's probably a little
too heavy to cast repeatedly but on the other hand he'd probably do a decent
job protecting tippets.

[Wayne Knight]

"rw" > wrote in message
...
>
> I don't like Fortenberry, either. :-)
>

I suspect Fortenberry would be hard to fish with, probably ok on the forward
stroke but on the back cast I doubt there would be much in the way of flex.
After a while the arm would get kind of tired too as he's probably a little
too heavy to cast repeatedly but on the other hand he'd probably do a decent
job protecting tippets.

[Wayne Knight]

"Dave Martel" > wrote in message
...
> On the Missouri I was playing a hot Bow when two sports came by in a
> drift-boat; and one said to the Guide "What a *loud* reel that guy has".
(I
> was using the Bougle at the time). The Guide smiled; and said "He's
playing
> a trout, that reel sounds fine to me".
>
> I really wanted to reply to the guy...but had my hands full at the
moment.
> Those new Angels look great to me...I see one in my future also>

Dave:

What part of the Missouri were you fishing? I ask because I bought a week at
a cabin at a conservation auction near the Dearborn exit on I-15 that I have
to use between now and the end of June. I don't know a thing about the
area.

I like that guide ;)

Wayne

[Wayne Knight]

"Dave Martel" > wrote in message
...
> On the Missouri I was playing a hot Bow when two sports came by in a
> drift-boat; and one said to the Guide "What a *loud* reel that guy has".
(I
> was using the Bougle at the time). The Guide smiled; and said "He's
playing
> a trout, that reel sounds fine to me".
>
> I really wanted to reply to the guy...but had my hands full at the
moment.
> Those new Angels look great to me...I see one in my future also>

Dave:

What part of the Missouri were you fishing? I ask because I bought a week at
a cabin at a conservation auction near the Dearborn exit on I-15 that I have
to use between now and the end of June. I don't know a thing about the
area.

I like that guide ;)

Wayne

[Wayne Knight]

"Danl" > wrote in message
...
>
> Wayne, I've got a Bougle with less than 10 hours fishing on it and I don't
> care for the style, design, functionality OR the clatter. If you're
> interested in a possible sale/swap, drop me an email.
>

What are you looking for in return?

[Wayne Knight]

"Danl" > wrote in message
...
>
> Wayne, I've got a Bougle with less than 10 hours fishing on it and I don't
> care for the style, design, functionality OR the clatter. If you're
> interested in a possible sale/swap, drop me an email.
>

What are you looking for in return?

[Wayne Knight]

"Willi" > wrote in message
...

> (And the click isn't obnoxious, IMO)

What's it about you western folks that want "quiet" reels?

[Wayne Knight]

"Willi" > wrote in message
...

> (And the click isn't obnoxious, IMO)

What's it about you western folks that want "quiet" reels?

[Wayne Knight]

"GregP" > wrote in message
...
>
> My mother, who is 77, had a hip replacement in the spring
> and is getting a knee makeover in the fall. You're in the
> business so you probably know this, but there is a new
> and much less invasive & debilitating knee replacement
> procedure being done that spares most of the muscle and
> has people up and about much quicker.
>

Thanks Greg, I know of the specific implants. I've lost a little weight and
trying for more. As good as the implants are getting, i figure keep the
natural stuff as long as possible.

We'll see how I do in Carolina this fall.

[Wayne Knight]

"GregP" > wrote in message
...
>
> My mother, who is 77, had a hip replacement in the spring
> and is getting a knee makeover in the fall. You're in the
> business so you probably know this, but there is a new
> and much less invasive & debilitating knee replacement
> procedure being done that spares most of the muscle and
> has people up and about much quicker.
>

Thanks Greg, I know of the specific implants. I've lost a little weight and
trying for more. As good as the implants are getting, i figure keep the
natural stuff as long as possible.

We'll see how I do in Carolina this fall.

[Wayne Knight]

"Wolfgang" > wrote in message
...
>
> 22nd-26th of June will do nicely. It's on the calendar. :)
>

Cool, it's early but are going to want to camp or would you want to split
the cost of a cabin if I can get one cheap enough. Even the "cheap" motels
in Grayling go for 60+ a night that time of year.

[Wayne Knight]

"Wolfgang" > wrote in message
...
>
> 22nd-26th of June will do nicely. It's on the calendar. :)
>

Cool, it's early but are going to want to camp or would you want to split
the cost of a cabin if I can get one cheap enough. Even the "cheap" motels
in Grayling go for 60+ a night that time of year.

[Wolfgang]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Wolfgang" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > 22nd-26th of June will do nicely. It's on the calendar. :)
> >
>
> Cool, it's early but are going to want to camp or would you want to split
> the cost of a cabin if I can get one cheap enough. Even the "cheap" motels
> in Grayling go for 60+ a night that time of year.

Either would work for me. Let's wait a bit and see who else is interested.
I know for sure that Bill Claspy wants to go. I can easily twist Joel's
arm.....if he has anything like a hole left in his schedule for the rest of
his life. Guarantee a trip to that lawyer's shack and we can probably tease
one of his colleagues up from down in N.C. (especially if we can convince
him that Michigan bugs are the ones that couldn't hang with the big kids in
WI......and the pasties are nice and fresh).

And, who knows, there may be a few others out there I haven't entirely
alienated.........hey, not EVERYBODY reads ROFF......yet. :)

Wolfgang

[Wolfgang]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Wolfgang" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > 22nd-26th of June will do nicely. It's on the calendar. :)
> >
>
> Cool, it's early but are going to want to camp or would you want to split
> the cost of a cabin if I can get one cheap enough. Even the "cheap" motels
> in Grayling go for 60+ a night that time of year.

Either would work for me. Let's wait a bit and see who else is interested.
I know for sure that Bill Claspy wants to go. I can easily twist Joel's
arm.....if he has anything like a hole left in his schedule for the rest of
his life. Guarantee a trip to that lawyer's shack and we can probably tease
one of his colleagues up from down in N.C. (especially if we can convince
him that Michigan bugs are the ones that couldn't hang with the big kids in
WI......and the pasties are nice and fresh).

And, who knows, there may be a few others out there I haven't entirely
alienated.........hey, not EVERYBODY reads ROFF......yet. :)

Wolfgang

[Wayne Knight]

"GregP" > wrote in message
...

> Some of us easterners are like that too. I take off
> the noisemaker part as soon as I get a new reel.

Sheesh, I bet you guys fish with flies made out of foam too ;)

[Wayne Knight]

"GregP" > wrote in message
...

> Some of us easterners are like that too. I take off
> the noisemaker part as soon as I get a new reel.

Sheesh, I bet you guys fish with flies made out of foam too ;)

[Wayne Knight]

"Wolfgang" > wrote in message
...

> And, who knows, there may be a few others out there I haven't
> entirely alienated

Who gives a disected rat's behind, I am the prickmaster afterall ;)

[Wayne Knight]

"Wolfgang" > wrote in message
...

> And, who knows, there may be a few others out there I haven't
> entirely alienated

Who gives a disected rat's behind, I am the prickmaster afterall ;)

[daytripper]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:48:04 -0500, "Wayne Knight" >
wrote:

>
>"rw" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> I don't like Fortenberry, either. :-)
>>
>
>I suspect Fortenberry would be hard to fish with, probably ok on the forward
>stroke but on the back cast I doubt there would be much in the way of flex.
>After a while the arm would get kind of tired too as he's probably a little
>too heavy to cast repeatedly but on the other hand he'd probably do a decent
>job protecting tippets.

That would have worked a lot better if Steve had said "I don't like fishing
with Fortenberry". (<= Agent wants to spell that "Whortleberry". wtf? ;-)

Fwiw, the truth is he's as entertaining to fish with as anyone with whom I've
had the pleasure...

/daytripper (...and that includes flatlanders who think the Davidson River is
worth more than a ten minute drive ;-)

[daytripper]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:48:04 -0500, "Wayne Knight" >
wrote:

>
>"rw" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> I don't like Fortenberry, either. :-)
>>
>
>I suspect Fortenberry would be hard to fish with, probably ok on the forward
>stroke but on the back cast I doubt there would be much in the way of flex.
>After a while the arm would get kind of tired too as he's probably a little
>too heavy to cast repeatedly but on the other hand he'd probably do a decent
>job protecting tippets.

That would have worked a lot better if Steve had said "I don't like fishing
with Fortenberry". (<= Agent wants to spell that "Whortleberry". wtf? ;-)

Fwiw, the truth is he's as entertaining to fish with as anyone with whom I've
had the pleasure...

/daytripper (...and that includes flatlanders who think the Davidson River is
worth more than a ten minute drive ;-)

[Wolfgang]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Wolfgang" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > And, who knows, there may be a few others out there I haven't
> > entirely alienated
>
> Who gives a disected rat's behind, I am the prickmaster afterall ;)

Hey! We should call this the "Michigan Asshole Clave Extraordinaire"! We
could break all previous attendance records! :)

Wolfgang
come one, come all.

[Wolfgang]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Wolfgang" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > And, who knows, there may be a few others out there I haven't
> > entirely alienated
>
> Who gives a disected rat's behind, I am the prickmaster afterall ;)

Hey! We should call this the "Michigan Asshole Clave Extraordinaire"! We
could break all previous attendance records! :)

Wolfgang
come one, come all.

[Wayne Knight]

"daytripper" > wrote in message
...

>
> That would have worked a lot better if Steve had said "I don't like
fishing
> with Fortenberry". (<= Agent wants to spell that "Whortleberry". wtf? ;-)
>

So I'm better at numbers than comedy, sue me.

> Fwiw, the truth is he's as entertaining to fish with as anyone with whom
I've
> had the pleasure...

Agreed

> (...and that includes flatlanders who think the Davidson River is
> worth more than a ten minute drive ;-)

Bite me

[Wayne Knight]

"daytripper" > wrote in message
...

>
> That would have worked a lot better if Steve had said "I don't like
fishing
> with Fortenberry". (<= Agent wants to spell that "Whortleberry". wtf? ;-)
>

So I'm better at numbers than comedy, sue me.

> Fwiw, the truth is he's as entertaining to fish with as anyone with whom
I've
> had the pleasure...

Agreed

> (...and that includes flatlanders who think the Davidson River is
> worth more than a ten minute drive ;-)

Bite me

[Frank Reid]

> Sheesh, I bet you guys fish with flies made out of foam too ;)

Better than the testicle hair of a goat.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

[Frank Reid]

> Sheesh, I bet you guys fish with flies made out of foam too ;)

Better than the testicle hair of a goat.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

[rw]

Wayne Knight wrote:

> "Willi" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
>>(And the click isn't obnoxious, IMO)
>
>
> What's it about you western folks that want "quiet" reels?

It has nothing to do with "western" or "eastern." It's all about
personal preference. I could care less what kind of reel you use, or
even if you use a bamboo rod.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[rw]

Wayne Knight wrote:

> "Willi" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
>>(And the click isn't obnoxious, IMO)
>
>
> What's it about you western folks that want "quiet" reels?

It has nothing to do with "western" or "eastern." It's all about
personal preference. I could care less what kind of reel you use, or
even if you use a bamboo rod.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[Wayne Knight]

"rw" > wrote in message
...
>
> It has nothing to do with "western" or "eastern." It's all about
> personal preference. I could care less what kind of reel you use, or
> even if you use a bamboo rod.
>

I know

[Wayne Knight]

"rw" > wrote in message
...
>
> It has nothing to do with "western" or "eastern." It's all about
> personal preference. I could care less what kind of reel you use, or
> even if you use a bamboo rod.
>

I know

[Kiyu]

> My mother, who is 77, had a hip replacement in the spring
> and is getting a knee makeover in the fall. You're in the
> business so you probably know this, but there is a new
> and much less invasive & debilitating knee replacement
> procedure being done that spares most of the muscle and
> has people up and about much quicker.
Hmmm. Too late now but what might that be?
The wife had a new knee put in a week ago Tuesday and the doc said it
was basically the same as the other knee he did for her in '96. I had
hoped he might offer up some advanced hardware but only the surgical
procedures seemed to have changed - smaller incision, something he
called "bloodless surgery". Still had to cut away some muscle to fit
everything in - but she is recovering faster than the last time.

What other sort of knee replacement could have been done?

Kiyu

[Kiyu]

> My mother, who is 77, had a hip replacement in the spring
> and is getting a knee makeover in the fall. You're in the
> business so you probably know this, but there is a new
> and much less invasive & debilitating knee replacement
> procedure being done that spares most of the muscle and
> has people up and about much quicker.
Hmmm. Too late now but what might that be?
The wife had a new knee put in a week ago Tuesday and the doc said it
was basically the same as the other knee he did for her in '96. I had
hoped he might offer up some advanced hardware but only the surgical
procedures seemed to have changed - smaller incision, something he
called "bloodless surgery". Still had to cut away some muscle to fit
everything in - but she is recovering faster than the last time.

What other sort of knee replacement could have been done?

Kiyu

[Cyli]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:22:29 -0400, GregP >
wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:00:44 -0500, "Wayne Knight"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>What's it about you western folks that want "quiet" reels?
>
>
> Some of us easterners are like that too. I take off
> the noisemaker part as soon as I get a new reel.


Ignorant question time.

How do you do that? I hate the reel noise. I've got the reels that
came with the KPOS package deal and I'd much rather have quiet time on
the water. Or at least hear only the stream and the wind and my own
singing.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

[Jeff Miller]

uh...let's see... penns is the first of june, this one's the end of
june, there's montana and fawn lake some time next summer (has anyone
started thinking of best dates yet), and the dates for the u.p. are?

but, the threat of pasties ... the lure of voelker... pasties...

hmmm... what's the closest airport?

jeff

Wolfgang wrote:
>
>>
>>>22nd-26th of June will do nicely. It's on the calendar. :)
Guarantee a trip to that lawyer's shack and we can probably tease
> one of his colleagues up from down in N.C. (especially if we can convince
> him that Michigan bugs are the ones that couldn't hang with the big kids in
> WI......and the pasties are nice and fresh).
>
> And, who knows, there may be a few others out there I haven't entirely
> alienated.........hey, not EVERYBODY reads ROFF......yet. :)
>
> Wolfgang
>
>

[Jeff Miller]

uh...let's see... penns is the first of june, this one's the end of
june, there's montana and fawn lake some time next summer (has anyone
started thinking of best dates yet), and the dates for the u.p. are?

but, the threat of pasties ... the lure of voelker... pasties...

hmmm... what's the closest airport?

jeff

Wolfgang wrote:
>
>>
>>>22nd-26th of June will do nicely. It's on the calendar. :)
Guarantee a trip to that lawyer's shack and we can probably tease
> one of his colleagues up from down in N.C. (especially if we can convince
> him that Michigan bugs are the ones that couldn't hang with the big kids in
> WI......and the pasties are nice and fresh).
>
> And, who knows, there may be a few others out there I haven't entirely
> alienated.........hey, not EVERYBODY reads ROFF......yet. :)
>
> Wolfgang
>
>

[Wayne Knight]

"Jeff Miller" > wrote in message
news:gMEXc.19552$nk.11720@okepread05...
>
> hmmm... what's the closest airport?
>

Traverse City

Or i can pick you up in Grand Rapids, Lansing, Flint, Detroit, or
Indianapolis, your choice

[Wayne Knight]

"Jeff Miller" > wrote in message
news:gMEXc.19552$nk.11720@okepread05...
>
> hmmm... what's the closest airport?
>

Traverse City

Or i can pick you up in Grand Rapids, Lansing, Flint, Detroit, or
Indianapolis, your choice

[George Cleveland]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:59:48 -0400, "Frank Reid"
<moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf> wrote:

>> Sheesh, I bet you guys fish with flies made out of foam too ;)
>
>Better than the testicle hair of a goat.


What have you got against goats getting their cheap thrills?


g.c.

Us Capricorns gotta stick together.

[George Cleveland]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:59:48 -0400, "Frank Reid"
<moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf> wrote:

>> Sheesh, I bet you guys fish with flies made out of foam too ;)
>
>Better than the testicle hair of a goat.


What have you got against goats getting their cheap thrills?


g.c.

Us Capricorns gotta stick together.

[Jeff]

thanks wayne... i'll have to wait til spring 2005 to confirm.

jeff

Wayne Knight wrote:

> "Jeff Miller" > wrote in message
> news:gMEXc.19552$nk.11720@okepread05...
>
>>hmmm... what's the closest airport?
>>
>
>
> Traverse City
>
> Or i can pick you up in Grand Rapids, Lansing, Flint, Detroit, or
> Indianapolis, your choice
>
>

[Jeff]

thanks wayne... i'll have to wait til spring 2005 to confirm.

jeff

Wayne Knight wrote:

> "Jeff Miller" > wrote in message
> news:gMEXc.19552$nk.11720@okepread05...
>
>>hmmm... what's the closest airport?
>>
>
>
> Traverse City
>
> Or i can pick you up in Grand Rapids, Lansing, Flint, Detroit, or
> Indianapolis, your choice
>
>

[Jeff]

thanks wayne... i'll have to wait til spring 2005 to confirm.

jeff

Wayne Knight wrote:

> "Jeff Miller" > wrote in message
> news:gMEXc.19552$nk.11720@okepread05...
>
>>hmmm... what's the closest airport?
>>
>
>
> Traverse City
>
> Or i can pick you up in Grand Rapids, Lansing, Flint, Detroit, or
> Indianapolis, your choice
>
>

[Ken Fortenberry]

Jeff top posted:

> thanks wayne...

Top posting is rude, stupid and lazy and chronic top posters
are ****tards.

This is a Public Service Announcement.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Ken Fortenberry]

Jeff top posted:

> thanks wayne...

Top posting is rude, stupid and lazy and chronic top posters
are ****tards.

This is a Public Service Announcement.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Tim J.]

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
> Jeff top posted:
>
> > thanks wayne...
>
> Top posting is rude, stupid and lazy and chronic top posters
> are ****tards.

Going fishing again so soon? So much for retrospection. :(
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Tim J.]

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
> Jeff top posted:
>
> > thanks wayne...
>
> Top posting is rude, stupid and lazy and chronic top posters
> are ****tards.

Going fishing again so soon? So much for retrospection. :(
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Tim J.]

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
> Jeff top posted:
>
> > thanks wayne...
>
> Top posting is rude, stupid and lazy and chronic top posters
> are ****tards.

Going fishing again so soon? So much for retrospection. :(
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Ken Fortenberry]

Tim J. wrote:
> "Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
>>
>>Top posting is rude, stupid and lazy and chronic top posters
>>are ****tards.
>
> Going fishing again so soon? So much for retrospection. :(

Once a week, Timmmmay, or more often as the mood strikes me.
Why are you bitchin' at me anyway ? Why don't you bitch at
the ****tard ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Ken Fortenberry]

Tim J. wrote:
> "Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
>>
>>Top posting is rude, stupid and lazy and chronic top posters
>>are ****tards.
>
> Going fishing again so soon? So much for retrospection. :(

Once a week, Timmmmay, or more often as the mood strikes me.
Why are you bitchin' at me anyway ? Why don't you bitch at
the ****tard ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Ken Fortenberry]

Tim J. wrote:
> "Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
>>
>>Top posting is rude, stupid and lazy and chronic top posters
>>are ****tards.
>
> Going fishing again so soon? So much for retrospection. :(

Once a week, Timmmmay, or more often as the mood strikes me.
Why are you bitchin' at me anyway ? Why don't you bitch at
the ****tard ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Ken Fortenberry]

Tim J. wrote:
> Going fishing again so soon? So much for retrospection. :(

Ah, OK, I get it. You think I'm "fishing" for an insult from
Chester. Like I told you, Chester is in my garbage bin.

I'm not gonna stop calling Jeffie a ****wit/retard just because
Chester will take that as an opportunity to insult my daughter.

My daughter doesn't read roff and I don't read Chester, so who
gives a **** ?

Your kid broke himself up in a skiing accident, right ? So does
that mean you are forever forbidden to make "clumsy" jokes on
roff ?

Don't let the lowest common denominator rule the roost Timmmay,
we roffians are better than that.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Ken Fortenberry]

Tim J. wrote:
> Going fishing again so soon? So much for retrospection. :(

Ah, OK, I get it. You think I'm "fishing" for an insult from
Chester. Like I told you, Chester is in my garbage bin.

I'm not gonna stop calling Jeffie a ****wit/retard just because
Chester will take that as an opportunity to insult my daughter.

My daughter doesn't read roff and I don't read Chester, so who
gives a **** ?

Your kid broke himself up in a skiing accident, right ? So does
that mean you are forever forbidden to make "clumsy" jokes on
roff ?

Don't let the lowest common denominator rule the roost Timmmay,
we roffians are better than that.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Tim J.]

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
> Tim J. wrote:
> > Going fishing again so soon? So much for retrospection. :(
>
> Ah, OK, I get it. You think I'm "fishing" for an insult from
> Chester. Like I told you, Chester is in my garbage bin.
>
> I'm not gonna stop calling Jeffie a ****wit/retard just because
> Chester will take that as an opportunity to insult my daughter.
>
> My daughter doesn't read roff and I don't read Chester, so who
> gives a **** ?

I do. Stupid of me, I know, but it's true.

> Your kid broke himself up in a skiing accident, right ? So does
> that mean you are forever forbidden to make "clumsy" jokes on
> roff ?

My kid is upright and walking, and therefore is the butt of many a "clumsy"
joke. However, if he had severed his spinal cord and was in a wheelchair
steering with his nose, I sure as hell wouldn't be tossing "cripple" insults at
people.

> Don't let the lowest common denominator rule the roost Timmmay,
> we roffians are better than that.

I'd like to think so.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Wolfgang]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
m...


> Don't let the lowest common denominator rule the roost Timmmay,
> we roffians are better than that.

Splork!

Wolfgang
we? :)

[Ken Fortenberry]

Wolfgang wrote:
> "Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
>>we roffians are better than that.
>
> Splork!
>
> Wolfgang
> we? :)

Well, not you and your band of circle jerk co-conspirators, you
folks ARE the lowest common denominator. But you might want to
make sure you have all the permissions in place before you draft
folks into your "we, us, everyone here" dementia. Your band of
circle jerk co-conspirators is smaller than you'd imagine.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Ken Fortenberry]

Wolfgang wrote:
> "Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
>>we roffians are better than that.
>
> Splork!
>
> Wolfgang
> we? :)

Well, not you and your band of circle jerk co-conspirators, you
folks ARE the lowest common denominator. But you might want to
make sure you have all the permissions in place before you draft
folks into your "we, us, everyone here" dementia. Your band of
circle jerk co-conspirators is smaller than you'd imagine.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Wolfgang]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
m...
> Wolfgang wrote:
> > "Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
> >>we roffians are better than that.
> >
> > Splork!
> >
> > Wolfgang
> > we? :)
>
> Well, not you and your band of circle jerk co-conspirators, you
> folks ARE the lowest common denominator. But you might want to
> make sure you have all the permissions in place before you draft
> folks into your "we, us, everyone here" dementia. Your band of
> circle jerk co-conspirators is smaller than you'd imagine.

Ouch. Gosh......when will I ever learn? :(

Wolfgang

[Wolfgang]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
m...
> Wolfgang wrote:
> > "Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
> >>we roffians are better than that.
> >
> > Splork!
> >
> > Wolfgang
> > we? :)
>
> Well, not you and your band of circle jerk co-conspirators, you
> folks ARE the lowest common denominator. But you might want to
> make sure you have all the permissions in place before you draft
> folks into your "we, us, everyone here" dementia. Your band of
> circle jerk co-conspirators is smaller than you'd imagine.

Ouch. Gosh......when will I ever learn? :(

Wolfgang

[Wayne Harrison]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
m...
> Wolfgang wrote:
> > "Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
> >>we roffians are better than that.
> >
> > Splork!
> >
> > Wolfgang
> > we? :)
>
> Well, not you and your band of circle jerk co-conspirators, you
> folks ARE the lowest common denominator. But you might want to
> make sure you have all the permissions in place before you draft
> folks into your "we, us, everyone here" dementia. Your band of
> circle jerk co-conspirators is smaller than you'd imagine.

my god--you have become gherke! still, you *do* have a better command
of the english language.

wayno (so, they're not behind *every* tree--you got that goin for you)

[Ken Fortenberry]

Wayne Harrison wrote:
>
> my god--you have become gherke! ...

Woof, woof, you junkyard dog.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Wayne Harrison]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
m...
> Wayne Harrison wrote:
> >
> > my god--you have become gherke! ...
>
> Woof, woof, you junkyard dog.
>
> --
> Ken Fortenberry

now that is truly hilarious. :)

wayno

[Jeff Miller]

....and you have the gall to ooze about other's masturbatory posts...

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

> Jeff top posted:
>
>> thanks wayne...
>
>
> Top posting is rude, stupid and lazy and chronic top posters
> are ****tards.
>
> This is a Public Service Announcement.

.... from kennie frotteur-berry

rub on...

jeff the ****tard, and glad to be of service to those in need (from a
safe distance, of course)

[Jeff Miller]

....and you have the gall to ooze about other's masturbatory posts...

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

> Jeff top posted:
>
>> thanks wayne...
>
>
> Top posting is rude, stupid and lazy and chronic top posters
> are ****tards.
>
> This is a Public Service Announcement.

.... from kennie frotteur-berry

rub on...

jeff the ****tard, and glad to be of service to those in need (from a
safe distance, of course)

[Padishar Creel]

> Some of us easterners are like that too. I take off
> the noisemaker part as soon as I get a new reel.
------------
I like the sound cuz if any other fly fisherpersons are around it gives me a
chance to draw attention to that huge trout doing the line eating run mambo!

Histrionic Chris

[Ken Fortenberry]

Jeff Miller top posted:

> ...and you have the gall ...

Oh yeah, I've got the gall to insist that regular posters to this
forum post here in the standard, conventional fashion.

Where in the hell do you get the gall to be a top posting ****tard ?

Are you "SPECIAL" or just rude, stupid and lazy ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

[rw]

Padishar Creel wrote:
>> Some of us easterners are like that too. I take off
>> the noisemaker part as soon as I get a new reel.
>
> ------------
> I like the sound cuz if any other fly fisherpersons are around it gives me a
> chance to draw attention to that huge trout doing the line eating run mambo!

That's just one of the reasons I dislike them. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[Warren]

wrote...
> there's montana and fawn lake some time next summer (has anyone
> started thinking of best dates yet),

I am leaning towards July 9-16 in the same area for the Western Clave.
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt at earth(nospam)link dot net to reply via email)

[Cyli]

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 01:53:51 -0400, GregP >
wrote:
(snipped)

> Each reel is different, of course, but what you want to
> look for inside the reel is a gear and something like a
> plastic or thin metal tab set against it like a baseball
> card against the spokes of a bicycle. If you do find
> something like that, see whether you can remove it.

Thanks.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

[Wolfgang]

"Cyli" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 01:53:51 -0400, GregP >
> wrote:
> (snipped)
>
> > Each reel is different, of course, but what you want to
> > look for inside the reel is a gear and something like a
> > plastic or thin metal tab set against it like a baseball
> > card against the spokes of a bicycle. If you do find
> > something like that, see whether you can remove it.
>
> Thanks.

On some reels the pawl (the baseball card in Greg's analogy) can be
disengaged by simply turning it......it doesn't need to be removed.
Remember though, that unless there is another braking mechanism or "drag"
disengaging the pawl WILL result in large quantities of line piled up around
your feet and/or snarled line on the spool whenever a pull on the line
causes the spool to spin. The original purpose of the click mechanism was
to prevent just such occurrences. On cheap reels lacking any other
mechanism that is still its function. Where there is another
mechanism.....and you shouldn't have any trouble at all recognizing it if
it's there....you can safely disengage or remove the pawl as long as it
isn't, as in the unusual case Greg mentioned, an integral part of that
mechanism. In general, when there is an adjustable drag mechanism, the
click drag is superfluous and, as has been noted, exists only to announce to
anyone nearby that Moby fish is tearing line off your reel.

Wolfgang

[Jeff Miller]

i feel "special", oh so "special"... thanks for asking. but i am
certainly just, stupid, and lazy too.

****tard

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

> Jeff Miller top posted:
>
>> ...and you have the gall ...
>
>
> Oh yeah, I've got the gall to insist that regular posters to this
> forum post here in the standard, conventional fashion.
>
> Where in the hell do you get the gall to be a top posting ****tard ?
>
> Are you "SPECIAL" or just rude, stupid and lazy ?
>

[Jeff Miller]

sounds fine to me... are you coming east in october?

jeff

Warren wrote:

> wrote...
>
>>there's montana and fawn lake some time next summer (has anyone
>>started thinking of best dates yet),
>
>
> I am leaning towards July 9-16 in the same area for the Western Clave.

[Danl]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Danl" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Wayne, I've got a Bougle with less than 10 hours fishing on it and I
don't
> > care for the style, design, functionality OR the clatter. If you're
> > interested in a possible sale/swap, drop me an email.
> >
>
> What are you looking for in return?


The Bougle, loaded with a DT 5wt, is currently the reel I use on that nice
little bamboo rod that was wrested from the clutches of The Ulcerous Dwarf
of Pahrump and raffled to yours truly at "Penns 2003: Return of the Son of
the Biblical Flood". (A great clave, BTW). I would need a nice reel with
the same (small) foot size as the reel seat on said rod does not accept all
reel foot sizes. If the replacement reel could sound less like an amplified
jake brake on an unlubricated 1962 Peterbilt, so much the better.

Whatchagot?

Danl

[Charlie Choc]

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 01:18:45 -0600, Warren > wrote:

wrote...
>> there's montana and fawn lake some time next summer (has anyone
>> started thinking of best dates yet),
>
>I am leaning towards July 9-16 in the same area for the Western Clave.

Works for me.
--
Charlie...

[rw]

Warren wrote:
> wrote...
>
>>sounds fine to me... are you coming east in october?
>
>
> Probably not. My dance card is full with steelies, local fishing,
> hunting season, etc......

There's nothing quite like those steelies for long road trips. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[Warren]

wrote...
> Warren wrote:
> > wrote...
> >
> >>sounds fine to me... are you coming east in october?
> >
> >
> > Probably not. My dance card is full with steelies, local fishing,
> > hunting season, etc......
>
> There's nothing quite like those steelies for long road trips. :-)

Both meanings aren't lost on me. <g>
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt at earth(nospam)link dot net to reply via email)

[William Claspy]

On 8/25/04 8:19 PM, in article
, "Wayne Knight"
> wrote:

> "William Claspy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/24/04 11:24 PM, in article
>> , "Wayne Knight"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Great report, Wayne. I'm headed up that direction at dark-thirty tomorrow
>> and your write up has me itching all the more to get on the road!
>>
>> Oh, and many happy returns!
>>
>
> thanks Bill, have a great trip and remember to keep the week after Father's
> day free next year.

Done, and done :-) Report on the way. It was kind of a soggy couple of
days, but I sure do like the Au Sable...

Bill

[William Claspy]

On 8/25/04 8:19 PM, in article
, "Wayne Knight"
> wrote:

> "William Claspy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/24/04 11:24 PM, in article
>> , "Wayne Knight"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Great report, Wayne. I'm headed up that direction at dark-thirty tomorrow
>> and your write up has me itching all the more to get on the road!
>>
>> Oh, and many happy returns!
>>
>
> thanks Bill, have a great trip and remember to keep the week after Father's
> day free next year.

Done, and done :-) Report on the way. It was kind of a soggy couple of
days, but I sure do like the Au Sable...

Bill

[William Claspy]

On 8/26/04 9:25 PM, in article , "Wolfgang"
> wrote:

>
> "Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Wolfgang" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> 22nd-26th of June will do nicely. It's on the calendar. :)
>>>
>>
>> Cool, it's early but are going to want to camp or would you want to split
>> the cost of a cabin if I can get one cheap enough. Even the "cheap" motels
>> in Grayling go for 60+ a night that time of year.
>
> Either would work for me. Let's wait a bit and see who else is interested.
> I know for sure that Bill Claspy wants to go.

As if you need to ask, my friend.

Wayne, I really liked that first camp ground south of 72 on the South Branch
(Canoe something). And the water upstream from there through the Mason
Tract is... Well, let's just say that I'd like to fish it again.

Short of camping, I have enjoyed my stays at Gates' as well, and they aren't
very expensive.

Ain't you got a cabin up there yet?

Bill

[Wolfgang]

"William Claspy" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/26/04 9:25 PM, in article , "Wolfgang"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> > "Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> "Wolfgang" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>>
> >>> 22nd-26th of June will do nicely. It's on the calendar. :)
> >>>
> >>
> >> Cool, it's early but are going to want to camp or would you want to
split
> >> the cost of a cabin if I can get one cheap enough. Even the "cheap"
motels
> >> in Grayling go for 60+ a night that time of year.
> >
> > Either would work for me. Let's wait a bit and see who else is
interested.
> > I know for sure that Bill Claspy wants to go.
>
> As if you need to ask, my friend.

Well, it isn't a question of "whether or not".......it's the logistics we're
considering

> Wayne, I really liked that first camp ground south of 72 on the South
Branch
> (Canoe something). And the water upstream from there through the Mason
> Tract is... Well, let's just say that I'd like to fish it again.
>
> Short of camping, I have enjoyed my stays at Gates' as well, and they
aren't
> very expensive.
>
> Ain't you got a cabin up there yet?

Oh sure......you guys just go ahead and have a nice little chat. Don't
worry about your old buddy who has NEVER EVEN BEEN THERE!! :(

Wolfgang
evil *******s.

[Wolfgang]

"William Claspy" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/26/04 9:25 PM, in article , "Wolfgang"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> > "Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> "Wolfgang" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>>
> >>> 22nd-26th of June will do nicely. It's on the calendar. :)
> >>>
> >>
> >> Cool, it's early but are going to want to camp or would you want to
split
> >> the cost of a cabin if I can get one cheap enough. Even the "cheap"
motels
> >> in Grayling go for 60+ a night that time of year.
> >
> > Either would work for me. Let's wait a bit and see who else is
interested.
> > I know for sure that Bill Claspy wants to go.
>
> As if you need to ask, my friend.

Well, it isn't a question of "whether or not".......it's the logistics we're
considering

> Wayne, I really liked that first camp ground south of 72 on the South
Branch
> (Canoe something). And the water upstream from there through the Mason
> Tract is... Well, let's just say that I'd like to fish it again.
>
> Short of camping, I have enjoyed my stays at Gates' as well, and they
aren't
> very expensive.
>
> Ain't you got a cabin up there yet?

Oh sure......you guys just go ahead and have a nice little chat. Don't
worry about your old buddy who has NEVER EVEN BEEN THERE!! :(

Wolfgang
evil *******s.

[Wayne Knight]

"William Claspy" > wrote in message
...
>I really liked that first camp ground south of 72 on the South Branch
> (Canoe something). And the water upstream from there through the Mason
> Tract is...

that would be the Canoe Campground ;)

>Well, let's just say that I'd like to fish it again.

I'm supposed to fish it between now and the end of the season, hoping I can
fit it in.

> Ain't you got a cabin up there yet?

Nope, would like to have one but it's 6 hours from indy and the past four -
five years have been a little tougher financially. But my daughter is
finally through school and the wife is basically healed, maybe in a couple
of years. In the meantime I have access to one when I go up on my own.

Let me know when you want to go up again, if I can get free I might just
join up with ya.

[Wayne Knight]

"William Claspy" > wrote in message
...
>I really liked that first camp ground south of 72 on the South Branch
> (Canoe something). And the water upstream from there through the Mason
> Tract is...

that would be the Canoe Campground ;)

>Well, let's just say that I'd like to fish it again.

I'm supposed to fish it between now and the end of the season, hoping I can
fit it in.

> Ain't you got a cabin up there yet?

Nope, would like to have one but it's 6 hours from indy and the past four -
five years have been a little tougher financially. But my daughter is
finally through school and the wife is basically healed, maybe in a couple
of years. In the meantime I have access to one when I go up on my own.

Let me know when you want to go up again, if I can get free I might just
join up with ya.

[Kevin Vang]

In article >,
says...
>
> "William Claspy" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Ain't you got a cabin up there yet?
>
> Nope, would like to have one but it's 6 hours from indy and the past four -
> five years have been a little tougher financially. But my daughter is
> finally through school and the wife is basically healed, maybe in a couple
> of years.

Don't do it! The money you would tie up in a cabin on the water
will pay for lots of rentals, and then somebody else will have to
cut the grass, rake the leaves, trap the mice, carry out the trash,
paint the shutters, clean the eaves, maintain the septic system,
etc., etc., etc., which will leave ever so much more time for you
to fish and drink.

Kevin,
who has priorities.

[Kevin Vang]

In article >,
says...
>
> "William Claspy" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Ain't you got a cabin up there yet?
>
> Nope, would like to have one but it's 6 hours from indy and the past four -
> five years have been a little tougher financially. But my daughter is
> finally through school and the wife is basically healed, maybe in a couple
> of years.

Don't do it! The money you would tie up in a cabin on the water
will pay for lots of rentals, and then somebody else will have to
cut the grass, rake the leaves, trap the mice, carry out the trash,
paint the shutters, clean the eaves, maintain the septic system,
etc., etc., etc., which will leave ever so much more time for you
to fish and drink.

Kevin,
who has priorities.

[Wayne Knight]

"Danl" > wrote in message
...
>

>
> The Bougle, loaded with a DT 5wt, is currently the reel I use on that
nice
> little bamboo rod that was wrested from the clutches of The Ulcerous Dwarf
> of Pahrump and raffled to yours truly at "Penns 2003: Return of the Son of
> the Biblical Flood". (A great clave, BTW). I would need a nice reel with
> the same (small) foot size as the reel seat on said rod does not accept
all
> reel foot sizes. If the replacement reel could sound less like an
amplified
> jake brake on an unlubricated 1962 Peterbilt, so much the better.
>
> Whatchagot?
>

Sorry to post this on the newsgroup but for some reason my mail link is not
working.

I've got a few reels that would work nice on that cane rod. Problem is
parting with them. IMO a cane rod needs a classic style reel, either a Von
Hoff style, Akron Pflueger (wish I could get my hands on one), or a
Hardy/CFO. I've got a Ross San Miguel that would not look bad on it but it's
not classic if you're so inclined.

Wayne

[Wayne Knight]

"Danl" > wrote in message
...
>

>
> The Bougle, loaded with a DT 5wt, is currently the reel I use on that
nice
> little bamboo rod that was wrested from the clutches of The Ulcerous Dwarf
> of Pahrump and raffled to yours truly at "Penns 2003: Return of the Son of
> the Biblical Flood". (A great clave, BTW). I would need a nice reel with
> the same (small) foot size as the reel seat on said rod does not accept
all
> reel foot sizes. If the replacement reel could sound less like an
amplified
> jake brake on an unlubricated 1962 Peterbilt, so much the better.
>
> Whatchagot?
>

Sorry to post this on the newsgroup but for some reason my mail link is not
working.

I've got a few reels that would work nice on that cane rod. Problem is
parting with them. IMO a cane rod needs a classic style reel, either a Von
Hoff style, Akron Pflueger (wish I could get my hands on one), or a
Hardy/CFO. I've got a Ross San Miguel that would not look bad on it but it's
not classic if you're so inclined.

Wayne

[Danl]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
> Sorry to post this on the newsgroup but for some reason my mail link is
not
> working.
>
> I've got a few reels that would work nice on that cane rod. Problem is
> parting with them. IMO a cane rod needs a classic style reel, either a Von
> Hoff style, Akron Pflueger (wish I could get my hands on one), or a
> Hardy/CFO. I've got a Ross San Miguel that would not look bad on it but
it's
> not classic if you're so inclined.
>
> Wayne


Hmm...I'll get back to you. Is your email working yet?

Danl

[Danl]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
> Sorry to post this on the newsgroup but for some reason my mail link is
not
> working.
>
> I've got a few reels that would work nice on that cane rod. Problem is
> parting with them. IMO a cane rod needs a classic style reel, either a Von
> Hoff style, Akron Pflueger (wish I could get my hands on one), or a
> Hardy/CFO. I've got a Ross San Miguel that would not look bad on it but
it's
> not classic if you're so inclined.
>
> Wayne


Hmm...I'll get back to you. Is your email working yet?

Danl

[Charlie Choc]

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:00:43 -0700, "Danl" > wrote:

>
>"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
>> Sorry to post this on the newsgroup but for some reason my mail link is
>not
>> working.
>>
>> I've got a Ross San Miguel that would not look bad on it but
>it's
>> not classic if you're so inclined.
>>
>> Wayne
>
>
>Hmm...I'll get back to you. Is your email working yet?
>
FWIW, I've got a couple of Ross San Miguel's and they are as smooth and quiet
as any reel I have tried.
--
Charlie...

[Charlie Choc]

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:00:43 -0700, "Danl" > wrote:

>
>"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
...
>> Sorry to post this on the newsgroup but for some reason my mail link is
>not
>> working.
>>
>> I've got a Ross San Miguel that would not look bad on it but
>it's
>> not classic if you're so inclined.
>>
>> Wayne
>
>
>Hmm...I'll get back to you. Is your email working yet?
>
FWIW, I've got a couple of Ross San Miguel's and they are as smooth and quiet
as any reel I have tried.
--
Charlie...

[William Claspy]

On 8/30/04 7:01 PM, in article , "Wolfgang"
> wrote:


>> Ain't you got a cabin up there yet?
>
> Oh sure......you guys just go ahead and have a nice little chat. Don't
> worry about your old buddy who has NEVER EVEN BEEN THERE!! :(
>
> Wolfgang
> evil *******s.

Jeez. I thought I was sending that via email!

:-)

From the Ivory Tower,
S. Fontinalis

[William Claspy]

On 8/30/04 7:01 PM, in article , "Wolfgang"
> wrote:


>> Ain't you got a cabin up there yet?
>
> Oh sure......you guys just go ahead and have a nice little chat. Don't
> worry about your old buddy who has NEVER EVEN BEEN THERE!! :(
>
> Wolfgang
> evil *******s.

Jeez. I thought I was sending that via email!

:-)

From the Ivory Tower,
S. Fontinalis

[William Claspy]

On 8/30/04 9:17 PM, in article , "Wayne
Knight" > wrote:

>
> "William Claspy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I really liked that first camp ground south of 72 on the South Branch
>> (Canoe something). And the water upstream from there through the Mason
>> Tract is...
>
> that would be the Canoe Campground ;)

That's the one! Nice spot.

> Let me know when you want to go up again, if I can get free I might just
> join up with ya.

Just as long as we leave Wolfgang out of it....

:-)

Bill

[William Claspy]

On 8/30/04 9:17 PM, in article , "Wayne
Knight" > wrote:

>
> "William Claspy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I really liked that first camp ground south of 72 on the South Branch
>> (Canoe something). And the water upstream from there through the Mason
>> Tract is...
>
> that would be the Canoe Campground ;)

That's the one! Nice spot.

> Let me know when you want to go up again, if I can get free I might just
> join up with ya.

Just as long as we leave Wolfgang out of it....

:-)

Bill

[GregP]

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:54:53 -0400, William Claspy
> wrote:

>
>>> Ain't you got a cabin up there yet?
>>
>> Oh sure......you guys just go ahead and have a nice little chat. Don't
>> worry about your old buddy who has NEVER EVEN BEEN THERE!! :(
>>
>> Wolfgang
>> evil *******s.
>
>Jeez. I thought I was sending that via email!


Yeah, right, as tho that mistake is so easy to make. I bet
you were just hoping that someone would offer you a cabin.

[GregP]

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:54:53 -0400, William Claspy
> wrote:

>
>>> Ain't you got a cabin up there yet?
>>
>> Oh sure......you guys just go ahead and have a nice little chat. Don't
>> worry about your old buddy who has NEVER EVEN BEEN THERE!! :(
>>
>> Wolfgang
>> evil *******s.
>
>Jeez. I thought I was sending that via email!


Yeah, right, as tho that mistake is so easy to make. I bet
you were just hoping that someone would offer you a cabin.

[Big Dale]

Charlie wrote:>FWIW, I've got a couple of Ross San Miguel's and they are as
smooth and quiet
>as any reel I have tried.
>--
>Charlie...
>

I also have a Ross San Migel and like it almost as much as any of my Redington
CT click pawl reels.

Big Dale

[Big Dale]

Charlie wrote:>FWIW, I've got a couple of Ross San Miguel's and they are as
smooth and quiet
>as any reel I have tried.
>--
>Charlie...
>

I also have a Ross San Migel and like it almost as much as any of my Redington
CT click pawl reels.

Big Dale

[Wayne Harrison]

"William Claspy" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/30/04 7:01 PM, in article , "Wolfgang"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >> Ain't you got a cabin up there yet?
> >
> > Oh sure......you guys just go ahead and have a nice little chat. Don't
> > worry about your old buddy who has NEVER EVEN BEEN THERE!! :(
> >
> > Wolfgang
> > evil *******s.
>
> Jeez. I thought I was sending that via email!
>
> :-)
>
> From the Ivory Tower,
> S. Fontinalis

boy, are you ever gonna catch a load of **** from rdean and forty!

not. which might just be the best evidence one will ever need to
support the proposition that double standards thrive around this outfit.

wayno
>

[Wayne Harrison]

"William Claspy" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/30/04 7:01 PM, in article , "Wolfgang"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >> Ain't you got a cabin up there yet?
> >
> > Oh sure......you guys just go ahead and have a nice little chat. Don't
> > worry about your old buddy who has NEVER EVEN BEEN THERE!! :(
> >
> > Wolfgang
> > evil *******s.
>
> Jeez. I thought I was sending that via email!
>
> :-)
>
> From the Ivory Tower,
> S. Fontinalis

boy, are you ever gonna catch a load of **** from rdean and forty!

not. which might just be the best evidence one will ever need to
support the proposition that double standards thrive around this outfit.

wayno
>

[Willi]

Big Dale wrote:
> Charlie wrote:>FWIW, I've got a couple of Ross San Miguel's and they are as
> smooth and quiet
>
>>as any reel I have tried.
>>--
>>Charlie...
>>
>
>
> I also have a Ross San Migel and like it almost as much as any of my Redington
> CT click pawl reels.
>
> Big Dale

The 2/3 and 3/4 are sweet little reels. Although they're getting harder
to find on EBay, you can still usually pick one up for $50 to $70, a steal.

Willi

[Willi]

Big Dale wrote:
> Charlie wrote:>FWIW, I've got a couple of Ross San Miguel's and they are as
> smooth and quiet
>
>>as any reel I have tried.
>>--
>>Charlie...
>>
>
>
> I also have a Ross San Migel and like it almost as much as any of my Redington
> CT click pawl reels.
>
> Big Dale

The 2/3 and 3/4 are sweet little reels. Although they're getting harder
to find on EBay, you can still usually pick one up for $50 to $70, a steal.

Willi