Penn's Clave 2005--Dates and Details

[Tom Littleton]

About the only good that came of last weekend's stay in Coburn was the chance
to sit down with Rudy and reserve space for Penn's Clave V. I have ALL cabins
reserved for the dates of May 28(Sat) to June 4(Sat). This time period will
encompass Memorial Day, and more than likely, Full Drake Madness. It will NOT
encompass either the birthdays of my spouse or Seideman's, nor Reid's
anniversary, so new excuses will have to be accumulated to miss those social
events, if so desired.
We have the following cabins definite: A six man, recently upgraded cabin, a 4
to 5 person cabin, with new deck, and a two man cabin. Rudy is constructing 4
new full-service cabins in the spring. Whether any or all will be ready for the
clave is very iffy. Needless to say, there may well be trailer space
available(a couple are for sale in the campground, as well), along with tenting
and RV space to beat the band. If possible, try to figure out cabin needs or
interests, and get back to me.
The cabins are $60 for the biggest, $50 for the 4/5 man, and $40 for the little
cabin. Deposit for the week is one night's stay, but as we are booked for a
whole week, it will be only 6 nights rent to stay 7 nights.
Finally, a quick update on the bear situation. Sightings and encounters have
been nearly non-existent for a few weeks. Rudy has warnings to take care, and
not feed them. I figure by next spring, there will be NO problem, as I must
have spoken to six or seven guys with Bear Permits applied for in camp already.
EMail me with any questions,etc.
Tom

[Wolfgang]

"Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
...

> ...Finally, a quick update on the bear situation. Sightings and encounters
have
> been nearly non-existent for a few weeks. Rudy has warnings to take care,
and
> not feed them. I figure by next spring, there will be NO problem, as I
must
> have spoken to six or seven guys with Bear Permits applied for in camp
already.
> EMail me with any questions,etc.


"Nearly" non-existent? Um.....didn't I read about a bear sighting at
Hemlock acres right here in ROFF within the last week or so?

Wolfgang
who knows that near is a rather indefinite term. :)

[vincent p. norris]

>Wolfgang
>who knows that near is a rather indefinite term.

Yes, consider the term "near beer," for example.

Around here, it is said the the guy who named "near beer" was a damn
poor judge of distance!

vince






:)
>

[Tom Littleton]

Wolfie notes:
>Um.....didn't I read about a bear sighting at
>Hemlock acres right here in ROFF within the last week or so?

that was by Frank, and he was on his third beer by then, and thus,
unreliable<g>....along with his, there have only be two sightings in about 5
weeks!
Tom

[Jeff Miller]

tom - put me on the cabin list...prefer non-smoking cabin if possible,
so if there are other non-smokers interested in sharing a cabin (as i
recall, they are open without separate bedrooms), perhaps we can go
ahead and get the groups organized. don't know if ij, wayno, or jim
will be traveling up...but after seeing the beginnings of a green drake
hatch, i'm looking forward to another visit and i hope they will come along.

jeff

Tom Littleton wrote:
> About the only good that came of last weekend's stay in Coburn was the chance
> to sit down with Rudy and reserve space for Penn's Clave V. I have ALL cabins
> reserved for the dates of May 28(Sat) to June 4(Sat).

[Jeff Miller]

tom - put me on the cabin list...prefer non-smoking cabin if possible,
so if there are other non-smokers interested in sharing a cabin (as i
recall, they are open without separate bedrooms), perhaps we can go
ahead and get the groups organized. don't know if ij, wayno, or jim
will be traveling up...but after seeing the beginnings of a green drake
hatch, i'm looking forward to another visit and i hope they will come along.

jeff

Tom Littleton wrote:
> About the only good that came of last weekend's stay in Coburn was the chance
> to sit down with Rudy and reserve space for Penn's Clave V. I have ALL cabins
> reserved for the dates of May 28(Sat) to June 4(Sat).

[Frank Reid]

>>Um.....didn't I read about a bear sighting at
>>Hemlock acres right here in ROFF within the last week or so?
>
>
> that was by Frank, and he was on his third beer by then, and thus,
> unreliable<g>....along with his, there have only be two sightings in about 5
> weeks!

Hmmm, before I even mentioned it to Rudy, he stated that they'd not seen
a bear in 5 weeks and that one showed up Thursday evening in the same
area I spotted him (i.e. the tenting area). I wasn't that far into the
cups (yet) when he ran through there.
Rudy, by the way, blamed the bears on me. He's reading ROFF now. He
knew Tom and I were coming up so he unplugged the bear fence to ensure
we had some good stories.
By the way, Rudy, you're slippin'. Steve used to bring out some women's
volleyball team from that little, podunk school over in State College
whilst the ROFFians were in town. Work on it.
--
Frank Reid
(who's thinking about the dangers of a bunch of sweaty, 6' tall women
who can hit a ball 90 miles an hour).
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[Frank Reid]

>>Um.....didn't I read about a bear sighting at
>>Hemlock acres right here in ROFF within the last week or so?
>
>
> that was by Frank, and he was on his third beer by then, and thus,
> unreliable<g>....along with his, there have only be two sightings in about 5
> weeks!

Hmmm, before I even mentioned it to Rudy, he stated that they'd not seen
a bear in 5 weeks and that one showed up Thursday evening in the same
area I spotted him (i.e. the tenting area). I wasn't that far into the
cups (yet) when he ran through there.
Rudy, by the way, blamed the bears on me. He's reading ROFF now. He
knew Tom and I were coming up so he unplugged the bear fence to ensure
we had some good stories.
By the way, Rudy, you're slippin'. Steve used to bring out some women's
volleyball team from that little, podunk school over in State College
whilst the ROFFians were in town. Work on it.
--
Frank Reid
(who's thinking about the dangers of a bunch of sweaty, 6' tall women
who can hit a ball 90 miles an hour).
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[Wolfgang]

"Frank Reid" > wrote in message
...
> ...6' tall women
> who can hit a ball 90 miles an hour).

Ouch.

Wolfgang
who hasn't heard anything that disturbing since luther nailed 95
testes to a church door. :(

[Wolfgang]

"Frank Reid" > wrote in message
...
> ...6' tall women
> who can hit a ball 90 miles an hour).

Ouch.

Wolfgang
who hasn't heard anything that disturbing since luther nailed 95
testes to a church door. :(

[[email protected]]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:30:37 -0400, Frank Reid > wrote:

>>>Um.....didn't I read about a bear sighting at
>>>Hemlock acres right here in ROFF within the last week or so?
>>
>>
>> that was by Frank, and he was on his third beer by then, and thus,
>> unreliable<g>....along with his, there have only be two sightings in about 5
>> weeks!
>
>Hmmm, before I even mentioned it to Rudy, he stated that they'd not seen
>a bear in 5 weeks and that one showed up Thursday evening in the same
>area I spotted him (i.e. the tenting area). I wasn't that far into the
>cups (yet) when he ran through there.

Well, OK, but that begs the question, "How far do you have to be into
the cups to start seeing things?"

>Rudy, by the way, blamed the bears on me. He's reading ROFF now. He
>knew Tom and I were coming up so he unplugged the bear fence to ensure
>we had some good stories.

Oh, sure, blame it on some poor lurker...I'll bet y'all were seeing rock
bears, wood bears, leaf bears, shadow bears, and tree bears, amongst
others...

>By the way, Rudy, you're slippin'. Steve used to bring out some women's
> volleyball team from that little, podunk school over in State College
>whilst the ROFFians were in town. Work on it.

Um, careful what you ask for...
>--
>Frank Reid
>(who's thinking about the dangers of a bunch of sweaty, 6' tall women
>who can hit a ball 90 miles an hour).

Whatdayaknow...my SO was offered a scholarship to Penn State (volleyball
and track, IIRC AND scholastic) as well as where she ultimately went
(but she did especially like the School of Journalism there)...and SOME
of you guys would probably be safer hoping for the bear to show up
instead of the team...

TC,
R
(who knows the dangers of hanging out with a bunch of 6' tall women who
can hit a ball 90 miles an hour - you're never _quite_ sure if a gallon
of baby oil is enough for everyone...).

[[email protected]]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:30:37 -0400, Frank Reid > wrote:

>>>Um.....didn't I read about a bear sighting at
>>>Hemlock acres right here in ROFF within the last week or so?
>>
>>
>> that was by Frank, and he was on his third beer by then, and thus,
>> unreliable<g>....along with his, there have only be two sightings in about 5
>> weeks!
>
>Hmmm, before I even mentioned it to Rudy, he stated that they'd not seen
>a bear in 5 weeks and that one showed up Thursday evening in the same
>area I spotted him (i.e. the tenting area). I wasn't that far into the
>cups (yet) when he ran through there.

Well, OK, but that begs the question, "How far do you have to be into
the cups to start seeing things?"

>Rudy, by the way, blamed the bears on me. He's reading ROFF now. He
>knew Tom and I were coming up so he unplugged the bear fence to ensure
>we had some good stories.

Oh, sure, blame it on some poor lurker...I'll bet y'all were seeing rock
bears, wood bears, leaf bears, shadow bears, and tree bears, amongst
others...

>By the way, Rudy, you're slippin'. Steve used to bring out some women's
> volleyball team from that little, podunk school over in State College
>whilst the ROFFians were in town. Work on it.

Um, careful what you ask for...
>--
>Frank Reid
>(who's thinking about the dangers of a bunch of sweaty, 6' tall women
>who can hit a ball 90 miles an hour).

Whatdayaknow...my SO was offered a scholarship to Penn State (volleyball
and track, IIRC AND scholastic) as well as where she ultimately went
(but she did especially like the School of Journalism there)...and SOME
of you guys would probably be safer hoping for the bear to show up
instead of the team...

TC,
R
(who knows the dangers of hanging out with a bunch of 6' tall women who
can hit a ball 90 miles an hour - you're never _quite_ sure if a gallon
of baby oil is enough for everyone...).

[Mike Connor]

> wrote in message
...

> (who knows the dangers of hanging out with a bunch of 6' tall women who
> can hit a ball 90 miles an hour - you're never _quite_ sure if a gallon
> of baby oil is enough for everyone...).
>

Sounds as if you drunk most of it anyway. Run out of sauce? That might also
at least partly explain, if not excuse, your generally obnoxious
lubriciousness, not to mention the smell. Seems you are using the stuff on
the wrong end. Although who can tell what causes a slimey arsehole?
Or a coarse packet generally?

Bye bye dicky, do have a nice day, ( but keep an eye out for errant
thunderclouds).

MC ( Gimme that ol´time religion, gimme that...................)

[Mike Connor]

> wrote in message
...

> (who knows the dangers of hanging out with a bunch of 6' tall women who
> can hit a ball 90 miles an hour - you're never _quite_ sure if a gallon
> of baby oil is enough for everyone...).
>

Sounds as if you drunk most of it anyway. Run out of sauce? That might also
at least partly explain, if not excuse, your generally obnoxious
lubriciousness, not to mention the smell. Seems you are using the stuff on
the wrong end. Although who can tell what causes a slimey arsehole?
Or a coarse packet generally?

Bye bye dicky, do have a nice day, ( but keep an eye out for errant
thunderclouds).

MC ( Gimme that ol´time religion, gimme that...................)

[[email protected]]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:21:03 +0200, "Mike Connor"
> wrote:

>Bye bye dicky, do have a nice day, ( but keep an eye out for errant
>thunderclouds).
>
>MC ( Gimme that ol´time religion, gimme that...................)

Aw, well, as long as you're going back to your roots, let me help...I've
called the local diocese and asked if they could send over some of their
toughest nuns to help you out...and the Jehovah's Witnesses...and the
Moonies...and the Scientologists...oh, you oughta have PLENTY of folks
to sing with soon...

HTH,
Dickie

[[email protected]]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:21:03 +0200, "Mike Connor"
> wrote:

>Bye bye dicky, do have a nice day, ( but keep an eye out for errant
>thunderclouds).
>
>MC ( Gimme that ol´time religion, gimme that...................)

Aw, well, as long as you're going back to your roots, let me help...I've
called the local diocese and asked if they could send over some of their
toughest nuns to help you out...and the Jehovah's Witnesses...and the
Moonies...and the Scientologists...oh, you oughta have PLENTY of folks
to sing with soon...

HTH,
Dickie

[Peter Charles]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:09:04 -0400, Jeff Miller
> wrote:

>tom - put me on the cabin list...prefer non-smoking cabin if possible,
>so if there are other non-smokers interested in sharing a cabin (as i
>recall, they are open without separate bedrooms), perhaps we can go
>ahead and get the groups organized. don't know if ij, wayno, or jim
>will be traveling up...but after seeing the beginnings of a green drake
>hatch, i'm looking forward to another visit and i hope they will come along.
>
>jeff
>

Ya, put me in for a non-smoker too.

(no conferences this time)





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[Peter Charles]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:09:04 -0400, Jeff Miller
> wrote:

>tom - put me on the cabin list...prefer non-smoking cabin if possible,
>so if there are other non-smokers interested in sharing a cabin (as i
>recall, they are open without separate bedrooms), perhaps we can go
>ahead and get the groups organized. don't know if ij, wayno, or jim
>will be traveling up...but after seeing the beginnings of a green drake
>hatch, i'm looking forward to another visit and i hope they will come along.
>
>jeff
>

Ya, put me in for a non-smoker too.

(no conferences this time)





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[Tom Littleton]

jeff writes:
>tom - put me on the cabin list...prefer non-smoking cabin if possible,

exactly how I figured I would work it....gather a list of names, and sort folks
out for maximum compatable occupancy.
Will try and accomodate the nonsmoking thing, although with Mike and I upwind,
it really wouldn't help much.
Tom

[Tom Littleton]

jeff writes:
>tom - put me on the cabin list...prefer non-smoking cabin if possible,

exactly how I figured I would work it....gather a list of names, and sort folks
out for maximum compatable occupancy.
Will try and accomodate the nonsmoking thing, although with Mike and I upwind,
it really wouldn't help much.
Tom

[Scott Seidman]

(Tom Littleton) wrote in
:

> jeff writes:
>>tom - put me on the cabin list...prefer non-smoking cabin if possible,
>
> exactly how I figured I would work it....gather a list of names, and
> sort folks out for maximum compatable occupancy.
> Will try and accomodate the nonsmoking thing, although with Mike and I
> upwind, it really wouldn't help much.
> Tom
>

I'm pretty sure I'm in

Scott

[Scott Seidman]

(Tom Littleton) wrote in
:

> jeff writes:
>>tom - put me on the cabin list...prefer non-smoking cabin if possible,
>
> exactly how I figured I would work it....gather a list of names, and
> sort folks out for maximum compatable occupancy.
> Will try and accomodate the nonsmoking thing, although with Mike and I
> upwind, it really wouldn't help much.
> Tom
>

I'm pretty sure I'm in

Scott

[Ken Fortenberry]

Peter Charles wrote:
>
> Ya, put me in for a non-smoker too.

Put me on the cabin list. Smoking or non, makes no difference.
Both Cyli and Bob smoked liked chimneys at the Driftless 'Clave
and I rather enjoyed the second hand smoke. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Ken Fortenberry]

Peter Charles wrote:
>
> Ya, put me in for a non-smoker too.

Put me on the cabin list. Smoking or non, makes no difference.
Both Cyli and Bob smoked liked chimneys at the Driftless 'Clave
and I rather enjoyed the second hand smoke. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Tom Littleton]

Ken writes:
>Put me on the cabin list.

duly noted:
Cabin list so far:
Reid(and cohort from Cal)
Miller and Petah(non-smoking)
Fortenberry(open to options)

Tom

[Tom Littleton]

Ken writes:
>Put me on the cabin list.

duly noted:
Cabin list so far:
Reid(and cohort from Cal)
Miller and Petah(non-smoking)
Fortenberry(open to options)

Tom

[Tim J.]

"Tom Littleton" wrote...
> Ken writes:
> >Put me on the cabin list.
>
> duly noted:
> Cabin list so far:
> Reid(and cohort from Cal)
> Miller and Petah(non-smoking)
> Fortenberry(open to options)

Well, pencil me in for a non-smoking, if possible.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Tim J.]

"Tom Littleton" wrote...
> Ken writes:
> >Put me on the cabin list.
>
> duly noted:
> Cabin list so far:
> Reid(and cohort from Cal)
> Miller and Petah(non-smoking)
> Fortenberry(open to options)

Well, pencil me in for a non-smoking, if possible.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Wayne Knight]

"Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
...
>
> EMail me with any questions,etc.
>

Put me and Kenny in the two man cabin if you'd like. We can make it the
elite cabin.

[Wayne Knight]

"Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
...
>
> EMail me with any questions,etc.
>

Put me and Kenny in the two man cabin if you'd like. We can make it the
elite cabin.

[Stan Gula]

Tim J. wrote:
>
> Well, pencil me in for a non-smoking, if possible.

Don't know if you missed my email Tom, but Jimmy and I are planning on the
trip next May. We can crash wherever there's space.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps

[Stan Gula]

Tim J. wrote:
>
> Well, pencil me in for a non-smoking, if possible.

Don't know if you missed my email Tom, but Jimmy and I are planning on the
trip next May. We can crash wherever there's space.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps

[Stan Gula]

Tim J. wrote:
>
> Well, pencil me in for a non-smoking, if possible.

Don't know if you missed my email Tom, but Jimmy and I are planning on the
trip next May. We can crash wherever there's space.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps

[Frank Reid]

>> Ya, put me in for a non-smoker too.
> Ken Fortenberry

Kenny,
You can share a room with Allen, Petah and I. Could be either very noisy
or very quiet. :-)
(I'll see your seven iron and raise you a mattock).

--
Frank Reid
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[Frank Reid]

>> Ya, put me in for a non-smoker too.
> Ken Fortenberry

Kenny,
You can share a room with Allen, Petah and I. Could be either very noisy
or very quiet. :-)
(I'll see your seven iron and raise you a mattock).

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

[daytripper]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:51:48 -0500, "Wayne Knight" >
wrote:

>
>"Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> EMail me with any questions,etc.
>>
>
>Put me and Kenny in the two man cabin if you'd like. We can make it the
>elite cabin.

<splorkle!>

[daytripper]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:51:48 -0500, "Wayne Knight" >
wrote:

>
>"Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> EMail me with any questions,etc.
>>
>
>Put me and Kenny in the two man cabin if you'd like. We can make it the
>elite cabin.

<splorkle!>

[Tom Littleton]

Stan writes:
>Don't know if you missed my email Tom, but Jimmy and I are planning on the
>trip next May.

caught it, but wasn't sure about accomodations(you tented once, cabinned once).
Tom

[Tom Littleton]

Stan writes:
>Don't know if you missed my email Tom, but Jimmy and I are planning on the
>trip next May.

caught it, but wasn't sure about accomodations(you tented once, cabinned once).
Tom

[Tom Littleton]

current list:
Jeff M, Tim J, Wayne K, Frank R(guest),
Ken F, Peter C, Stan G, Jim L.

Tom

[Tom Littleton]

current list:
Jeff M, Tim J, Wayne K, Frank R(guest),
Ken F, Peter C, Stan G, Jim L.

Tom

[Joe McIntosh]

"Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
...
> jeff writes:
> >tom - put me on the cabin list...prefer non-smoking cabin if possible,
>
> exactly how I figured I would work it....gather a list of names, and sort
folks
> out for maximum compatable occupancy.
> Will try and accomodate the nonsmoking thing, although with Mike and I
upwind,
> it really wouldn't help much.
>


Tom

Probably too late for you Tom but Mike said at western clave he was giving
up the smoking so he could enjoy seeing his kids finish high school. --

[Joe McIntosh]

"Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
...
> jeff writes:
> >tom - put me on the cabin list...prefer non-smoking cabin if possible,
>
> exactly how I figured I would work it....gather a list of names, and sort
folks
> out for maximum compatable occupancy.
> Will try and accomodate the nonsmoking thing, although with Mike and I
upwind,
> it really wouldn't help much.
>


Tom

Probably too late for you Tom but Mike said at western clave he was giving
up the smoking so he could enjoy seeing his kids finish high school. --

[Joe McIntosh]

"Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
...
> jeff writes:
> >tom - put me on the cabin list...prefer non-smoking cabin if possible,
>
> exactly how I figured I would work it....gather a list of names, and sort
folks
> out for maximum compatable occupancy.
> Will try and accomodate the nonsmoking thing, although with Mike and I
upwind,
> it really wouldn't help much.
>


Tom

Probably too late for you Tom but Mike said at western clave he was giving
up the smoking so he could enjoy seeing his kids finish high school. --

[Ken Fortenberry]

Frank Reid wrote:
> Kenny,
> You can share a room with Allen, Petah and I. Could be either very noisy
> or very quiet. :-)
> (I'll see your seven iron and raise you a mattock).

Boy, talk about your rock and a hard place. In the one cabin
there's Knight pouring 25 year old single malt over ice cubes
(AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE !) and in the other there's Uber Colonel Epps
who wants to make damn sure I never vote for Bill Clinton again.

Ah well, hard decisions like that are why we pay the 'Clavemeister
the big bucks. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Ken Fortenberry]

Frank Reid wrote:
> Kenny,
> You can share a room with Allen, Petah and I. Could be either very noisy
> or very quiet. :-)
> (I'll see your seven iron and raise you a mattock).

Boy, talk about your rock and a hard place. In the one cabin
there's Knight pouring 25 year old single malt over ice cubes
(AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE !) and in the other there's Uber Colonel Epps
who wants to make damn sure I never vote for Bill Clinton again.

Ah well, hard decisions like that are why we pay the 'Clavemeister
the big bucks. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Tim J.]

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
> Frank Reid wrote:
> > Kenny,
> > You can share a room with Allen, Petah and I. Could be either very noisy
> > or very quiet. :-)
> > (I'll see your seven iron and raise you a mattock).
>
> Boy, talk about your rock and a hard place. In the one cabin
> there's Knight pouring 25 year old single malt over ice cubes
> (AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE !)

Might as well mix it with cola. . .

> and in the other there's Uber Colonel Epps
> who wants to make damn sure I never vote for Bill Clinton again.

.. . . or ANY Clinton, I hope. ;-)

> Ah well, hard decisions like that are why we pay the 'Clavemeister
> the big bucks. ;-)

I can't see Tom touching this one with a ten foot pole.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Tim J.]

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
> Frank Reid wrote:
> > Kenny,
> > You can share a room with Allen, Petah and I. Could be either very noisy
> > or very quiet. :-)
> > (I'll see your seven iron and raise you a mattock).
>
> Boy, talk about your rock and a hard place. In the one cabin
> there's Knight pouring 25 year old single malt over ice cubes
> (AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE !)

Might as well mix it with cola. . .

> and in the other there's Uber Colonel Epps
> who wants to make damn sure I never vote for Bill Clinton again.

.. . . or ANY Clinton, I hope. ;-)

> Ah well, hard decisions like that are why we pay the 'Clavemeister
> the big bucks. ;-)

I can't see Tom touching this one with a ten foot pole.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Tom Littleton]

Indian Joe notes:
>Probably too late for you Tom but Mike said at western clave he was giving
>up the smoking so he could enjoy seeing his kids finish high school.

never too late, my wise old friend....the Mike I was referring to in that post
was the Handy One, Mike Shaw. Who knows, maybe there is hope for us as well.
Now, I will be blamed, most likely, for corrupting Makela.....
Tom

[Tom Littleton]

Ken notes:

>Ah well, hard decisions like that are why we pay the 'Clavemeister
>the big bucks. ;-)

.....and, if I didn't get to make decisions like this, all the fun would go out
of the exercise for me<bseg>.

Tom
p.s. Opie, there is still room in Ken's cabin!

[Tom Littleton]

Tim guesses:
>I can't see Tom touching this one with a ten foot pole.

and you have no sense of what a wonderfully fun opportunity this process could
be!!! Just view it as Sim Campground and I get to populate the cabins(and
place the bears).
Tom

[Mark H. Bowen]

"Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
...
> Tom
> p.s. Opie, there is still room in Ken's cabin!

I'm contemplating the Penns next year, but won't know until a week before
hand. Ask Kenny if he minds bunkin' with me, 'cause he don't see my post no
more and I don't see his either.

Mark

[Roger Ohlund]

"Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
...
> About the only good that came of last weekend's stay in Coburn was the
chance
> to sit down with Rudy and reserve space for Penn's Clave V. I have ALL
cabins
> reserved for the dates of May 28(Sat) to June 4(Sat). This time period
will
> encompass Memorial Day, and more than likely, Full Drake Madness. It will
NOT
> encompass either the birthdays of my spouse or Seideman's, nor Reid's
> anniversary, so new excuses will have to be accumulated to miss those
social
> events, if so desired.
> We have the following cabins definite: A six man, recently upgraded cabin,
a 4
> to 5 person cabin, with new deck, and a two man cabin. Rudy is
constructing 4
> new full-service cabins in the spring. Whether any or all will be ready
for the
> clave is very iffy. Needless to say, there may well be trailer space
> available(a couple are for sale in the campground, as well), along with
tenting
> and RV space to beat the band. If possible, try to figure out cabin needs
or
> interests, and get back to me.
> The cabins are $60 for the biggest, $50 for the 4/5 man, and $40 for the
little
> cabin. Deposit for the week is one night's stay, but as we are booked for
a
> whole week, it will be only 6 nights rent to stay 7 nights.
> Finally, a quick update on the bear situation. Sightings and encounters
have
> been nearly non-existent for a few weeks. Rudy has warnings to take care,
and
> not feed them. I figure by next spring, there will be NO problem, as I
must
> have spoken to six or seven guys with Bear Permits applied for in camp
already.
> EMail me with any questions,etc.
> Tom

Tom,

I had so much fun this year that I'm contemplating joining you guys again
next year.
I have a lot to consider though.
First, where would I land and who could possibly drive me from the airport?
Ideas anyone?

/Roger

[Roger Ohlund]

"Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
...
> About the only good that came of last weekend's stay in Coburn was the
chance
> to sit down with Rudy and reserve space for Penn's Clave V. I have ALL
cabins
> reserved for the dates of May 28(Sat) to June 4(Sat). This time period
will
> encompass Memorial Day, and more than likely, Full Drake Madness. It will
NOT
> encompass either the birthdays of my spouse or Seideman's, nor Reid's
> anniversary, so new excuses will have to be accumulated to miss those
social
> events, if so desired.
> We have the following cabins definite: A six man, recently upgraded cabin,
a 4
> to 5 person cabin, with new deck, and a two man cabin. Rudy is
constructing 4
> new full-service cabins in the spring. Whether any or all will be ready
for the
> clave is very iffy. Needless to say, there may well be trailer space
> available(a couple are for sale in the campground, as well), along with
tenting
> and RV space to beat the band. If possible, try to figure out cabin needs
or
> interests, and get back to me.
> The cabins are $60 for the biggest, $50 for the 4/5 man, and $40 for the
little
> cabin. Deposit for the week is one night's stay, but as we are booked for
a
> whole week, it will be only 6 nights rent to stay 7 nights.
> Finally, a quick update on the bear situation. Sightings and encounters
have
> been nearly non-existent for a few weeks. Rudy has warnings to take care,
and
> not feed them. I figure by next spring, there will be NO problem, as I
must
> have spoken to six or seven guys with Bear Permits applied for in camp
already.
> EMail me with any questions,etc.
> Tom

Tom,

I had so much fun this year that I'm contemplating joining you guys again
next year.
I have a lot to consider though.
First, where would I land and who could possibly drive me from the airport?
Ideas anyone?

/Roger

[Wolfgang]

"Roger Ohlund" > wrote in message
...
>
> I had so much fun this year that I'm contemplating joining you guys again
> next year.
> I have a lot to consider though.
> First, where would I land and who could possibly drive me from the
airport?
> Ideas anyone?

Pick a spot. You've got a ride.

Wolfgang

[Stan Gula]

Roger Ohlund wrote:
> I had so much fun this year that I'm contemplating joining you guys
> again next year.
> I have a lot to consider though.
> First, where would I land and who could possibly drive me from the
> airport? Ideas anyone?
>
> /Roger

We drive right past the Springfield(MA)/Hartford(CT) airport (Bradley) on
the way to Penns. It might be much less expensive for you to fly to a
bigger airport though.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps

[Stan Gula]

Roger Ohlund wrote:
> I had so much fun this year that I'm contemplating joining you guys
> again next year.
> I have a lot to consider though.
> First, where would I land and who could possibly drive me from the
> airport? Ideas anyone?
>
> /Roger

We drive right past the Springfield(MA)/Hartford(CT) airport (Bradley) on
the way to Penns. It might be much less expensive for you to fly to a
bigger airport though.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps

[Tim J.]

"Wolfgang" wrote...
> "Roger Ohlund" wrote...
> >
> > I had so much fun this year that I'm contemplating joining you guys again
> > next year.
> > I have a lot to consider though.
> > First, where would I land and who could possibly drive me from the
> airport?
> > Ideas anyone?
>
> Pick a spot. You've got a ride.

That's the way I see it. Roger, I'm still penciled in for Penns myself, but I
would be willing to pick you up in Boston and hand you off to Stan and Jim if I
don't go.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Tim J.]

"Wolfgang" wrote...
> "Roger Ohlund" wrote...
> >
> > I had so much fun this year that I'm contemplating joining you guys again
> > next year.
> > I have a lot to consider though.
> > First, where would I land and who could possibly drive me from the
> airport?
> > Ideas anyone?
>
> Pick a spot. You've got a ride.

That's the way I see it. Roger, I'm still penciled in for Penns myself, but I
would be willing to pick you up in Boston and hand you off to Stan and Jim if I
don't go.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Mark H. Bowen]

"Tim J." > wrote in message
news:YlPXc.193587$8_6.179370@attbi_s04...
> > That's the way I see it. Roger, I'm still penciled in for Penns myself,
but I
> would be willing to pick you up in Boston and hand you off to Stan and Jim
if I
> don't go.
> --
> TL,
> Tim

Or you could just fly into Hickory Not So International Airport and I could
show you my *new secret fishin' spot.* Of course, you would have to promise
never to tell anyone back in Sweden about it. The Penns is a great 'Clave,
I'm sure, but everybody knows about it!

Mark --I know this isn't any help to ya, but I need a *new* fishin' buddy,
as Deep Fried never would take me up on my offer to go fishin'.--

[asadi....]

"Mike Connor" >
> Bye bye dicky, do have a nice day, ( but keep an eye out for errant
> thunderclouds).
>
> MC ( Gimme that ol´time religion, gimme that...................)

**** Mike,

You ever seen them handle snakes?

Ever been baptized in the Jordan?

Seen the pyramids....Dome of the rock?

Why do we have Friday the thirteenth and exactly what was found under the
temple?

What did Isis say to Osiris...or was it Jesus?



Let's talk old time religion....

john

[asadi....]

No **** Ken? You coming?

I can be your body guard and you can be my long lost palllll......!


Hey Opie! wanna crash in my trailer?


john

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
m...
> Peter Charles wrote:
> >
> > Ya, put me in for a non-smoker too.
>
> Put me on the cabin list. Smoking or non, makes no difference.
> Both Cyli and Bob smoked liked chimneys at the Driftless 'Clave
> and I rather enjoyed the second hand smoke. ;-)
>
> --
> Ken Fortenberry

[asadi....]

"Frank Reid"
He's reading ROFF now. He
> knew Tom and I were coming up so he unplugged the bear fence to ensure
>
--
>
Freakin dogs bark at bears and scare them...
Rock salt in a twelve guage deters them...
Empty your garbage cans daily and discourage them - or else tell you
customers you don't, so they can take it into town and put it in the
dumpster....
Clean you bathrooms one half as good as Kathy did...


john
http://www.woodwardcampground.com/

[Lat705]

Roger

I'm half way between Philadelphia and Baltimore and can pick you up at the most
convenient for you. I also have a very flexible schedule since I'm retired.

Lou T

[Mark Bowen]

"asadi...." > wrote in message
k.net...
> No **** Ken? You coming?
>
> I can be your body guard and you can be my long lost palllll......!
>
>
> Hey Opie! wanna crash in my trailer?
>
>
> john

If Kenny won't let me bunk with him, that sounds GREAT! However, you'll have to
promise to be my bodyguard and long lost pallll too....

Mark

[Tom Littleton]

Roger wonders:
>
>I had so much fun this year that I'm contemplating joining you guys again
>next year.
>I have a lot to consider though.
>First, where would I land and who could possibly drive me from the airport?
>Ideas anyone?
>

How about Philadelphia International, where one of several of us could get you.
We have ROFF types near Logan(Boston) and the Washington, DC airports, as well.
Tom

[Tom Littleton]

Roger wonders:
>
>I had so much fun this year that I'm contemplating joining you guys again
>next year.
>I have a lot to consider though.
>First, where would I land and who could possibly drive me from the airport?
>Ideas anyone?
>

How about Philadelphia International, where one of several of us could get you.
We have ROFF types near Logan(Boston) and the Washington, DC airports, as well.
Tom

[Tom Littleton]

John writes:
>Freakin dogs bark at bears and scare them...
>Rock salt in a twelve guage deters them...
>Empty your garbage cans daily and discourage them - or else tell you
>customers you don't, so they can take it into town and put it in the
>dumpster....

Rudy is getting MUCH better at all this, John. He will have the hang of things
in no time, I think. BTW, scoped out Woodward a few years back and rejected it
for Hemlock Acres. Have you been there this season?
Tom

[Charlie Choc]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 23:49:53 +0200, "Roger Ohlund"
> wrote:

>I had so much fun this year that I'm contemplating joining you guys again
>next year.
>I have a lot to consider though.
>First, where would I land and who could possibly drive me from the airport?
>Ideas anyone?
>
You may also want to consider the Western Clave and see a different part of
the US. Salt Lake City is probably the closest international airport to there.
--
Charlie...

[Jeff Miller]

tom - at the very end of the road that runs by 3-streamer stans and the
tunnel, there is a dirt/gravel road from the parking lot into some
private property. there's actually some type of rental outfit back
there, with a fine looking big log cabin on penns. lou teletski told me
about it, so i rode back and took a look at it. have you or the other
pa. regulars stayed there? can you check it out on one of your
trips...just for future reference. i know there are a lot of club-owned
properties over at poe paddy, but the rental places on the stream seem
limited to the "carolina" cabin. hemlock is fine for what it is, but
staying on the stream has its advantages; and, i'd like to find a penns
creek place where rachel and i could stay sometime - she's even less of
a camper than i.

jeff


Tom Littleton wrote:

[Wolfgang]

"Jeff Miller" > wrote in message
news:ca0Yc.4596$bT1.4217@fed1read07...
> ...i'd like to find a penns
> creek place where rachel and i could stay sometime - she's even less of
> a camper than i.

Huh? 3 days, 1 night?

Wolfgang
who, though he can't quite put his finger on it, knows there's something
just wrong about that. :(

[Roger Ohlund]

"Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
...
> Roger wonders:
> >
> >I had so much fun this year that I'm contemplating joining you guys again
> >next year.
> >I have a lot to consider though.
> >First, where would I land and who could possibly drive me from the
airport?
> >Ideas anyone?
> >
>
> How about Philadelphia International, where one of several of us could get
you.
> We have ROFF types near Logan(Boston) and the Washington, DC airports, as
well.
>

Thanks Tom,

That was the kind of answer I was looking for. Will start looking at costs.

/Roger

[Roger Ohlund]

"Charlie Choc" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 23:49:53 +0200, "Roger Ohlund"
> > wrote:
>
> >I had so much fun this year that I'm contemplating joining you guys again
> >next year.
> >I have a lot to consider though.
> >First, where would I land and who could possibly drive me from the
airport?
> >Ideas anyone?
> >
> You may also want to consider the Western Clave and see a different part
of
> the US. Salt Lake City is probably the closest international airport to
there.
> --
> Charlie...

Charlie,

This year I'm considering both claves.........

/Roger

[Jeff Miller]

Wolfgang wrote:

> "Jeff Miller" > wrote in message
> news:ca0Yc.4596$bT1.4217@fed1read07...
>
>>...i'd like to find a penns
>>creek place where rachel and i could stay sometime - she's even less of
>>a camper than i.
>
>
> Huh? 3 days, 1 night?
>
> Wolfgang
> who, though he can't quite put his finger on it, knows there's something
> just wrong about that. :(
>
>

<g>... sometimes, it's precisely that... and, uh, it seems wrong to me also.

[Charlie Choc]

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 16:31:47 +0200, "Roger Ohlund"
> wrote:

>This year I'm considering both claves.........
>
Cool, hope to see you at one or both.
--
Charlie...

[rw]

Roger Ohlund wrote:
>
> Charlie,
>
> This year I'm considering both claves.........

I am very much looking forward to seeing you at the Western Clave next
year, Roger.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[Willi]

rw wrote:

> Roger Ohlund wrote:
>
>>
>> Charlie,
>>
>> This year I'm considering both claves.........
>
>
> I am very much looking forward to seeing you at the Western Clave next
> year, Roger.
>

Me too, Roger. If you've never never been to that part of the US, try
and manage some extra time to see some of the sights. The country in the
area is beautiful, immense, wild and varied.

Willi

[Tom Littleton]

Jeff notes:
>there's actually some type of rental outfit back
>there, with a fine looking big log cabin on penns.

will look into it for you, Jeff.
Tom
p.s. to my knowledge, none of us has stayed there, but someone may chime in.

[Mike Makela]

Yeah, that's the place that frank lost the phone number for...Sounded sweet,
affordable, meals included, but don't know the who's.

The Finn


"Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
...
> Jeff notes:
>>there's actually some type of rental outfit back
>>there, with a fine looking big log cabin on penns.
>
> will look into it for you, Jeff.
> Tom
> p.s. to my knowledge, none of us has stayed there, but someone may chime
> in.

[Mike Makela]

Definetly Tom's fault...couldn't be me..


"Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
...
> Indian Joe notes:
>>Probably too late for you Tom but Mike said at western clave he was
>>giving
>>up the smoking so he could enjoy seeing his kids finish high school.
>
> never too late, my wise old friend....the Mike I was referring to in that
> post
> was the Handy One, Mike Shaw. Who knows, maybe there is hope for us as
> well.
> Now, I will be blamed, most likely, for corrupting Makela.....
> Tom

[Mike Makela]

"Roger Ohlund" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tom Littleton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Roger wonders:
>> >
>> >I had so much fun this year that I'm contemplating joining you guys
>> >again
>> >next year.
>> >I have a lot to consider though.
>> >First, where would I land and who could possibly drive me from the
> airport?
>> >Ideas anyone?
>> >
>>
>> How about Philadelphia International, where one of several of us could
>> get
> you.
>> We have ROFF types near Logan(Boston) and the Washington, DC airports, as
> well.
>>
>
> Thanks Tom,
>
> That was the kind of answer I was looking for. Will start looking at
> costs.
>
> /Roger
>
>

Roger!!!

Of course there's always room in the car with me. I'm just catching up on a
big absence from ROFF, and by the sound of it may have to find a place to
stay, but I haven't missed it since we started and don't plan on doing it
now. I am close to Philadelphia Airport, 45 minutes or so. I haven't
figured out the schedule yet, it's a bit early, but I usually go up early,
and may even do a week ahead of time this year. If you find Philadelphia
to be one of your options, give me a heads up and I'll make up my mind.

The Finn (sort of...)