WHOOPS!! Shanghai.....

[riverman]

Kudos to Charlie Choc for noticing the hugest faux-pas of my entire
international teaching career!! I guess living amongst two 'Congos' has my
brain scrambled...

The potential job I am looking at is in SHANGHAI, not Singapore. I know that
they are not the same place, or even near each other. Other than the leading
S, I have no idea why my mind map gets the two confused, but I now have to
go back and redo my entire online search, as I cannot swear that anything I
have learned was about SHANGHAI rather than Singapore.

So let me re-ask: have any roffians been to SHANGHAI lately, what's it like,
are there any fishing opportunities there, and what else can you tell me
about it.

Thanks
--riverman

[Charlie Choc]

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:08:47 +0100, "riverman" > wrote:

>So let me re-ask: have any roffians been to SHANGHAI lately, what's it like,
>are there any fishing opportunities there, and what else can you tell me
>about it.
>
I was in Shanghai briefly in the mid 90's. It's a neat place to visit if you
have money, but the expats I've known who've lived there didn't much like it.
--
Charlie...

[riverman]

"Charlie Choc" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:08:47 +0100, "riverman" > wrote:
>
> >So let me re-ask: have any roffians been to SHANGHAI lately, what's it
like,
> >are there any fishing opportunities there, and what else can you tell me
> >about it.
> >
> I was in Shanghai briefly in the mid 90's. It's a neat place to visit if
you
> have money, but the expats I've known who've lived there didn't much like
it.
>

Hmmm, the school that has openings there is one of the top-paying
international schools, and has openings in all of the areas in which I am
certified, as well as 2 of the 3 areas that SWMBO is certified. My primary
concern is that it will be exclusively an Urban existance, which I have
enjoyed well enough each time I have lived it, but I still will want to see
if I can plan a long weekend to wet a line, dip a paddle or pitch a tent.
Don't know much about life in China. What did your expat associates not like
about it?

--riverman

[riverman]

"Charlie Choc" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:08:47 +0100, "riverman" > wrote:
>
> >So let me re-ask: have any roffians been to SHANGHAI lately, what's it
like,
> >are there any fishing opportunities there, and what else can you tell me
> >about it.
> >
> I was in Shanghai briefly in the mid 90's. It's a neat place to visit if
you
> have money, but the expats I've known who've lived there didn't much like
it.
>

Hmmm, the school that has openings there is one of the top-paying
international schools, and has openings in all of the areas in which I am
certified, as well as 2 of the 3 areas that SWMBO is certified. My primary
concern is that it will be exclusively an Urban existance, which I have
enjoyed well enough each time I have lived it, but I still will want to see
if I can plan a long weekend to wet a line, dip a paddle or pitch a tent.
Don't know much about life in China. What did your expat associates not like
about it?

--riverman

[Charlie Choc]

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:58:08 +0100, "riverman" > wrote:

> What did your expat associates not like
>about it?
>
I don't remember the specifics, but IIRC the reasons had to do with raising a
family and doing business there. Nobody said they were sorry they had gone
there, but they all said they were glad to not be there anymore. <g>

Also, from what I have heard, it isn't very easy for westerners to travel
around China without an escort. I know we always had one the short time I was
there, but I we didn't try to go around without them so I'm not sure if they
were officially required or not. You should check into what travel
restrictions may exist.
--
Charlie...

[Charlie Choc]

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:58:08 +0100, "riverman" > wrote:

> What did your expat associates not like
>about it?
>
I don't remember the specifics, but IIRC the reasons had to do with raising a
family and doing business there. Nobody said they were sorry they had gone
there, but they all said they were glad to not be there anymore. <g>

Also, from what I have heard, it isn't very easy for westerners to travel
around China without an escort. I know we always had one the short time I was
there, but I we didn't try to go around without them so I'm not sure if they
were officially required or not. You should check into what travel
restrictions may exist.
--
Charlie...

[rw]

Just be careful when you buy your airplane ticket. :-)

I remember a few years ago someone arrived in San Jose, California and
he thought he was flying to San Jose, Costa Rica.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[rw]

Just be careful when you buy your airplane ticket. :-)

I remember a few years ago someone arrived in San Jose, California and
he thought he was flying to San Jose, Costa Rica.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[rw]

Jonathan Cook wrote:
> riverman > wrote:
>
>
>>So let me re-ask: have any roffians been to SHANGHAI lately, what's it like,
>>are there any fishing opportunities there, and what else can you tell me
>>about it.
>
>
> Mongolian taimen. Trout 5 feet long. 'nough said.

Got any good prairie dog patterns?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[rw]

Jonathan Cook wrote:
> riverman > wrote:
>
>
>>So let me re-ask: have any roffians been to SHANGHAI lately, what's it like,
>>are there any fishing opportunities there, and what else can you tell me
>>about it.
>
>
> Mongolian taimen. Trout 5 feet long. 'nough said.

Got any good prairie dog patterns?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[Bob Patton]

"rw" > wrote in message
m...
> Just be careful when you buy your airplane ticket. :-)
>
> I remember a few years ago someone arrived in San Jose, California and he
> thought he was flying to San Jose, Costa Rica.
>
> --
> Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

I once received a ticket to Amman, Jordan when I was supposed to go to
Muscat, Oman.
Bob

[Bob Patton]

"rw" > wrote in message
m...
> Just be careful when you buy your airplane ticket. :-)
>
> I remember a few years ago someone arrived in San Jose, California and he
> thought he was flying to San Jose, Costa Rica.
>
> --
> Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

I once received a ticket to Amman, Jordan when I was supposed to go to
Muscat, Oman.
Bob

[Bob Patton]

"Charlie Choc" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:58:08 +0100, "riverman" > wrote:
>
>> What did your expat associates not like
>>about it?
>>
> I don't remember the specifics, but IIRC the reasons had to do with
> raising a
> family and doing business there. Nobody said they were sorry they had gone
> there, but they all said they were glad to not be there anymore. <g>
>
> Also, from what I have heard, it isn't very easy for westerners to travel
> around China without an escort. I know we always had one the short time I
> was
> there, but I we didn't try to go around without them so I'm not sure if
> they
> were officially required or not. You should check into what travel
> restrictions may exist.
> --
> Charlie...

Haven't been there, but been close . . .

Actually, I think the general rap on Shanghai is that it's a tough,
mercantilist city. Everybody is looking for a way to make a few bucks.
Western morality, ethics, and legality are subordinated to that objective.

That can be rather interesting. But tiresome. But it's good to spend some
time in China. It's got to be a big part of the future. And for people with
initiative and adventure, there have to be some interesting fishing
opportunities in the mountains out west.

Bob

[Bob Patton]

"Charlie Choc" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:58:08 +0100, "riverman" > wrote:
>
>> What did your expat associates not like
>>about it?
>>
> I don't remember the specifics, but IIRC the reasons had to do with
> raising a
> family and doing business there. Nobody said they were sorry they had gone
> there, but they all said they were glad to not be there anymore. <g>
>
> Also, from what I have heard, it isn't very easy for westerners to travel
> around China without an escort. I know we always had one the short time I
> was
> there, but I we didn't try to go around without them so I'm not sure if
> they
> were officially required or not. You should check into what travel
> restrictions may exist.
> --
> Charlie...

Haven't been there, but been close . . .

Actually, I think the general rap on Shanghai is that it's a tough,
mercantilist city. Everybody is looking for a way to make a few bucks.
Western morality, ethics, and legality are subordinated to that objective.

That can be rather interesting. But tiresome. But it's good to spend some
time in China. It's got to be a big part of the future. And for people with
initiative and adventure, there have to be some interesting fishing
opportunities in the mountains out west.

Bob

[Wayne Knight]

"riverman" > wrote in message
...
>
> So let me re-ask: have any roffians been to SHANGHAI lately, what's it
like,
> are there any fishing opportunities there, and what else can you tell me
> about it.
>

Been there, was escorted out, won't be going back ;) Hint, leave the papers
in somewhere else, just not Singapore.

I think Prosek wrote something about it one of his books about fishing in
China.

[Herman Nijland]

riverman wrote:
> Kudos to Charlie Choc for noticing the hugest faux-pas of my entire
> international teaching career!! I guess living amongst two 'Congos' has my
> brain scrambled...
>
> The potential job I am looking at is in SHANGHAI, not Singapore. I know that
> they are not the same place, or even near each other. Other than the leading
> S, I have no idea why my mind map gets the two confused, but I now have to
> go back and redo my entire online search, as I cannot swear that anything I
> have learned was about SHANGHAI rather than Singapore.
>
> So let me re-ask: have any roffians been to SHANGHAI lately, what's it like,
> are there any fishing opportunities there, and what else can you tell me
> about it.
>
> Thanks
> --riverman
>
>

Hey Myron,
Have a look over here: http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/
More information than you want to know :-).

--
Cheers, Herman

[Herman Nijland]

riverman wrote:
> Kudos to Charlie Choc for noticing the hugest faux-pas of my entire
> international teaching career!! I guess living amongst two 'Congos' has my
> brain scrambled...
>
> The potential job I am looking at is in SHANGHAI, not Singapore. I know that
> they are not the same place, or even near each other. Other than the leading
> S, I have no idea why my mind map gets the two confused, but I now have to
> go back and redo my entire online search, as I cannot swear that anything I
> have learned was about SHANGHAI rather than Singapore.
>
> So let me re-ask: have any roffians been to SHANGHAI lately, what's it like,
> are there any fishing opportunities there, and what else can you tell me
> about it.
>
> Thanks
> --riverman
>
>

Hey Myron,
Have a look over here: http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/
More information than you want to know :-).

--
Cheers, Herman