Wiffle spools

[Eric Ryder]

.... on baitcasters. I've seen discussion (over on wmi bassfishing
homepages) on covering the perforations on Scorpions with teflon tape prior
to spooling up to prevent water from messing with the machinewerkens on that
reel. Anyone know if this would be a good practice on other reels with this
spool design (particularly the Pinnacle)?

[hawg-o-matic]

Do water and oil mix?



"Eric Ryder" > wrote in message
...
> ... on baitcasters. I've seen discussion (over on wmi bassfishing
> homepages) on covering the perforations on Scorpions with teflon tape
prior
> to spooling up to prevent water from messing with the machinewerkens on
that
> reel. Anyone know if this would be a good practice on other reels with
this
> spool design (particularly the Pinnacle)?
>
>

[Eric Ryder]

"hawg-o-matic" > wrote in message
...
> Do water and oil mix?
>
>
>
> "Eric Ryder" > wrote in message
> ...
> > ... on baitcasters. I've seen discussion (over on wmi bassfishing
> > homepages) on covering the perforations on Scorpions with teflon tape
> prior
> > to spooling up to prevent water from messing with the machinewerkens on
> that
> > reel. Anyone know if this would be a good practice on other reels with
> this
> > spool design (particularly the Pinnacle)?
> >
> >
>
>

Are any of your reels completely watersealed? None of my Daiwas ever had
proper sealed bearings, just shielded SS ones.

[BrooklynBill]

"Eric Ryder" > wrote in message >...
> "hawg-o-matic" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Do water and oil mix?
> >
> >
> >
> > "Eric Ryder" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > ... on baitcasters. I've seen discussion (over on wmi bassfishing
> > > homepages) on covering the perforations on Scorpions with teflon tape
> prior
> > > to spooling up to prevent water from messing with the machinewerkens on
> that
> > > reel. Anyone know if this would be a good practice on other reels with
> this
> > > spool design (particularly the Pinnacle)
> >
> >
>
> Are any of your reels completely watersealed? None of my Daiwas ever had
> proper sealed bearings, just shielded SS ones.

Eric I sell & use Shimano Scorpions. I personally wrap teflon tape to
cover the holes why do I do this, my friend in Japan who works for
Shimano said so plain and simple. If the spool is of wiffle design
{Holes} wrap it and that is a fact. It does not matter if it is a
Scorpion or Qauntum, Pinnacle or whatever reel, just use enough to
cover the spool. A little bit of prevention goes a long way. It is
your choice.

Brooklyn Bill.

[Acee]

Your mention of shielded and sealed bearings brings to mind thoughts I have
been musing about. The basis is cleaning reels rather frequently and
getting the most value from the task. Why have shielded or sealed beings?
Open bearings would be much easier to and more proficient to clean. When
cleaning my Curados I am never confident, in fact, I do not believe I am
getting all the oxidized lubricant out of the races. I have washed a lot of
ball and roller bearings and believe me it is rather difficult to dissolve
all the lubricant out of them with open races so I know there is no way it
is all getting cleaned out of shielded bearings.

Additionally, it would likely make it possible to clean the bearing on the
side that has a pressed pin in the shaft (Curados) without removing the pin.
removing that pin gives me the thought that I could be doing more harm than
good because it will degrade the fit each time it is removed and replaced.

I do not believe the environment the bearings are in merits being shielded
and could in my thinking could be leading to a problem by trapping water
inside with the lubricant in the case of water being present. I have never
found debris of appreciable amounts, if any in the area of the bearings. I
was surprised to find shielded bearings being used, particularly, double
shields. It is a contradiction to recommending cleaning the reels often. On
the other hand, if one almost never cleans a reel it might? prolong the bare
essential operation of one.

The value that I place on this situation is that reel performance is more
important than bearing life. It seems that the past discussions of
improving distances especially with light lures and the designers using less
mass in the spools and charging more money for the "feature". Non-shielded
bearings would be a cost savings.

I would change to non-shielded bearings if I knew a source for them.

Al C


"Eric Ryder" > wrote in message
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> Snip>
> Are any of your reels completely watersealed? None of my Daiwas ever had
> proper sealed bearings, just shielded SS ones.
>
>

[AJH]

Try diesel engine starting fluid (either) to clean bearings..the either
and the force of the propellent does a good job, it dry's real
fast..just don't smoke when using it..





I fish therefore I lie

[Eric Ryder]

"AJH" > wrote in message
...
> Try diesel engine starting fluid (either) to clean bearings..the either
> and the force of the propellent does a good job, it dry's real
> fast..just don't smoke when using it..
>
>
>
>
>
> I fish therefore I lie
>

Since I have an air compressor in the basement, I saturate the bearings with
solvent (acetone) and spin 'em dry with air. After a couple cycles, they
don't throw any more oil.

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

I use this neat little "tool" for cleaning bearings. its called a
BEARING BLASTER. It works. If you have a hobby shop around go ask about
it.
I have another hobby, radio control vehicles, that use many bearings
avg about 20 bearings a vehicle and I have 3 of them. Works on sealed
bearings too. The bearings in these things get loaded with gunk, mud,
dirt, fuel. Much more filth than what my baitcaster bearings have ever
been exposed to. This product cleans them great.
Here is a little write-up of what it is.

http://www.maxxskunkworks.com/MaxxRevRPM_bearing_blaster.htm

and here too
http://www.arrowweb.com/bake/blaster.htm

My Pinnacle DeadBolt Classic has a wiffle spool I didnt cover it with
tape of any kind I figure once its filled with line the line will act
like a barrier. You have like 150yds of line on the spool but only cast
out 30-50yds of line most likely.

[Henry Hefner]

You ever put those hobbies together? I remember reading a post about a
year ago, I think it was on the TFF where someone used a radio control
boat to bank fish. He rigged a way to troll with it and would race for
the bank when he got bit.

QUAKEnSHAKE wrote:
> I use this neat little "tool" for cleaning bearings. its called a
> BEARING BLASTER. It works. If you have a hobby shop around go ask about
> it.
> I have another hobby, radio control vehicles, that use many bearings
> avg about 20 bearings a vehicle and I have 3 of them. Works on sealed
> bearings too. The bearings in these things get loaded with gunk, mud,
> dirt, fuel. Much more filth than what my baitcaster bearings have ever
> been exposed to. This product cleans them great.
> Here is a little write-up of what it is.
>
> http://www.maxxskunkworks.com/MaxxRevRPM_bearing_blaster.htm
>
> and here too
> http://www.arrowweb.com/bake/blaster.htm
>
> My Pinnacle DeadBolt Classic has a wiffle spool I didnt cover it with
> tape of any kind I figure once its filled with line the line will act
> like a barrier. You have like 150yds of line on the spool but only cast
> out 30-50yds of line most likely.
>

[Brad Coovert]

>You ever put those hobbies together? I remember reading a post about a
>year ago, I think it was on the TFF where someone used a radio control
>boat to bank fish. He rigged a way to troll with it and would race for
>the bank when he got bit.

Now that would be a tournament! Huge bank fishing tourney using RC boats.

Would bring in a whole new group of sponsors. Where's ESPN?


Brad Coovert, 2003 Angler of the Year, Greenfield Bassmasters
Please visit our sponsors:
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[Eric Ryder]

I've heard of a few local shorebound lake trout (togue/macs) anglers using
RC sailboats to tow 1# suckers out to 90' in the summer here.

"Henry Hefner" > wrote in message
...
> You ever put those hobbies together? I remember reading a post about a
> year ago, I think it was on the TFF where someone used a radio control
> boat to bank fish. He rigged a way to troll with it and would race for
> the bank when he got bit.
>
> QUAKEnSHAKE wrote:
> > I use this neat little "tool" for cleaning bearings. its called a
> > BEARING BLASTER. It works. If you have a hobby shop around go ask about
> > it.
> > I have another hobby, radio control vehicles, that use many bearings
> > avg about 20 bearings a vehicle and I have 3 of them. Works on sealed
> > bearings too. The bearings in these things get loaded with gunk, mud,
> > dirt, fuel. Much more filth than what my baitcaster bearings have ever
> > been exposed to. This product cleans them great.
> > Here is a little write-up of what it is.
> >
> > http://www.maxxskunkworks.com/MaxxRevRPM_bearing_blaster.htm
> >
> > and here too
> > http://www.arrowweb.com/bake/blaster.htm
> >
> > My Pinnacle DeadBolt Classic has a wiffle spool I didnt cover it with
> > tape of any kind I figure once its filled with line the line will act
> > like a barrier. You have like 150yds of line on the spool but only cast
> > out 30-50yds of line most likely.
> >
>