The VERY best fly fishing destination?

[Padishar Creel]

My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly fishing
vacation, where would you want to go?"

I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"

Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have never
been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians, how
about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?

Chris

[Dave Martel]

Good choice. Haven't been there...but *have* spent 4 weeks on 3 seperate
trips to Christmas Island. Much more primitive than the accomodations on the
Seychelles; but the fishing is fantastic...at 1/3rd the cost. Add in the
(underutilized) blue water (Giant Trevally and Yellowfin Tuna) and you've
gota great place...friendly natives too.

Still.....if money were no object (nice to dream, huh?) it'd be the
Seychelles, hands down.

Dave M
"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
...
> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
> I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
> Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
never
> been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians,
how
> about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
> money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
> Chris
>
>

[Dave Martel]

Good choice. Haven't been there...but *have* spent 4 weeks on 3 seperate
trips to Christmas Island. Much more primitive than the accomodations on the
Seychelles; but the fishing is fantastic...at 1/3rd the cost. Add in the
(underutilized) blue water (Giant Trevally and Yellowfin Tuna) and you've
gota great place...friendly natives too.

Still.....if money were no object (nice to dream, huh?) it'd be the
Seychelles, hands down.

Dave M
"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
...
> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
> I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
> Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
never
> been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians,
how
> about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
> money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
> Chris
>
>

[Wayne Harrison]

"Padishar Creel" > wrote

IF
> money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
> Chris

it wouldn't cost me much at all; and 9/11 can't be relevant, if we want
to live free. so, i would say, hazel creek, with guaranteed good weather,
in early may, staying at the ranger cabin, and turning back the clock to
1975. of course, i would want ol jeffie to have already started trout
fishing, and renda mcrae speight would have to be there...

oh; wait a minute--i thought you asked me where i wanted to spend
eternity...

yfitons
wayno
>
>

[Chas Wade]

"Dave Martel" > wrote:
>Good choice. Haven't been there...but *have* spent 4 weeks on 3
>seperate
>trips to Christmas Island. Much more primitive than the accomodations
>on the
>Seychelles; but the fishing is fantastic...at 1/3rd the cost. Add in
>the
>(underutilized) blue water (Giant Trevally and Yellowfin Tuna) and
>you've
>gota great place...friendly natives too.
>
> Still.....if money were no object (nice to dream, huh?) it'd be the
>Seychelles, hands down.
>

So how abot a few hints on how you got it to cost 1/3 of the
Seychelles? I presume that makes it cheaper than the Bahamas.

Chas
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[Chas Wade]

"Padishar Creel" > wrote:
>My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
>fishing
>vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
>I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
>Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
>never
>been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow
>Roffians, how
>about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination
>-- IF
>money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and
>all?
>
>Chris
>

Sounds good, but with money as no object, I'd be thinking Iceland for
atlantics, or Great Bear Lake for lakers, pike, and greyling.

Chas
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[daytripper]

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:55:41 GMT, Chas Wade >
wrote:

>"Padishar Creel" > wrote:
>>My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
>>fishing
>>vacation, where would you want to go?"
>>
>>I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>>
>>Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
>>never
>>been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow
>>Roffians, how
>>about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination
>>-- IF
>>money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and
>>all?
>>
>>Chris
>>
>
>Sounds good, but with money as no object, I'd be thinking Iceland for
>atlantics, or Great Bear Lake for lakers, pike, and greyling.

I'd include Argentina and Russia if cost was not an issue...

[rw]

Chas Wade wrote:
>
> So how abot a few hints on how you got it to cost 1/3 of the
> Seychelles? I presume that makes it cheaper than the Bahamas.

When I was at Christmas Island a few years ago I tried to figure out the
cost of a roll-your-own trip (as opposed to a package with Kauffman's or
someone like that). I can't quote any actual numbers, but my impression
was that it could be done much cheaper. I don't think you'd have much
trouble finding a boat and a guide. I'd stay in the town where the boats
launch (can't recall the name), to avoid the truck ride across the
island from the Captain Cook hotel.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[snakefiddler]

"Wayne Harrison" > wrote in message
om...
>
> "Padishar Creel" > wrote
>
> IF
> > money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
> >
> > Chris
>
> it wouldn't cost me much at all; and 9/11 can't be relevant, if we
want
> to live free. so, i would say, hazel creek, with guaranteed good weather,
> in early may, staying at the ranger cabin, and turning back the clock to
> 1975. of course, i would want ol jeffie to have already started trout
> fishing, and renda mcrae speight would have to be there...
>
> oh; wait a minute--i thought you asked me where i wanted to spend
> eternity...
>
> yfitons
> wayno
> >

here's to ya , uncle wayno-
let me raise my tumbler of vermouth to you, ms. mcrae speight, the trout of
hazel creek, and freedom.

yfitm
snakefiddler- (who may have indulged in just a little too much sipping this
evenin)
> >
>
>

[Bill Kiene]

Cays of southern Cuba..........for me.

http://www.avalons.net/

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
...
> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
> fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
> I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
> Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
> never
> been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians,
> how
> about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
> money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
> Chris
>
>

[Bill Kiene]

Cays of southern Cuba..........for me.

http://www.avalons.net/

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
...
> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
> fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
> I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
> Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
> never
> been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians,
> how
> about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
> money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
> Chris
>
>

[riverman]

"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
...
> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
> I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
> Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
never
> been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians,
how
> about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
> money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?


I just got asked this last summer. For me, the thrill of exotic locations
and new sights is no longer a draw....I'd want to be back 'home'. Also, the
novelty of meeting new people or being introduced to unusual cultures is
also no longer a real draw...give me the familiar sights, smells and sounds
of the old stomping grounds.

Four or five summers ago, Kevin, Mark and I (my best friends from college,
20 years ago) did week-long canoe trip down the St Croix river on the
Maine/Canada border. World class bass fishing, with fish taken on almost
every cast. I guided that river for many years, so getting to take my buds
on that water, and fish to our hearts content, was the best summer in many
years. We were spin-casting at the time as I had not started flyfishing yet,
so for me, money being no object and any destination being possible, get me
in a canoe for a 2-week St Croix trip with Mark and Kevin, 8-ft 4wts, a
couple boxes of dries, and some sunny days. Anyone can go to the Seychelles,
but not anyone can get out with their best buds on familar water and just be
at home!

--riverman

[riverman]

"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
...
> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
> I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
> Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
never
> been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians,
how
> about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
> money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?


I just got asked this last summer. For me, the thrill of exotic locations
and new sights is no longer a draw....I'd want to be back 'home'. Also, the
novelty of meeting new people or being introduced to unusual cultures is
also no longer a real draw...give me the familiar sights, smells and sounds
of the old stomping grounds.

Four or five summers ago, Kevin, Mark and I (my best friends from college,
20 years ago) did week-long canoe trip down the St Croix river on the
Maine/Canada border. World class bass fishing, with fish taken on almost
every cast. I guided that river for many years, so getting to take my buds
on that water, and fish to our hearts content, was the best summer in many
years. We were spin-casting at the time as I had not started flyfishing yet,
so for me, money being no object and any destination being possible, get me
in a canoe for a 2-week St Croix trip with Mark and Kevin, 8-ft 4wts, a
couple boxes of dries, and some sunny days. Anyone can go to the Seychelles,
but not anyone can get out with their best buds on familar water and just be
at home!

--riverman

[Roger Ohlund]

"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
...
> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
> I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
> Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
never
> been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians,
how
> about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
> money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
> Chris

Chris,

I'd go to the Kola peninsula and fish for brown trout in an area that still
hasn't seen all that many fly fishermen (let alone people).
Since there's an abundance of places I wish to go I'd also ask the weather
gods for nice weather and while I'm at it don't forget plenty of insects
(preferrably other than mosquitoes).
If I can't go there I'd like to go to Patagonia or New Zeeland or Alaska or
Greenland or Iceland or Kamchatka or.................well, you get my
meaning.

/ Roger
Daytime engineer
Lifetime fly fisherman
If you feel like it, visit http://www.imsoc.se/angler/ for info on fly
fishing in northern Sweden, Lapland,
or visit http://www.imsoc.se/ffgallery/ , the fly fishermen's gallery.

[Roger Ohlund]

"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
...
> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
> I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
> Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
never
> been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians,
how
> about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
> money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
> Chris

Chris,

I'd go to the Kola peninsula and fish for brown trout in an area that still
hasn't seen all that many fly fishermen (let alone people).
Since there's an abundance of places I wish to go I'd also ask the weather
gods for nice weather and while I'm at it don't forget plenty of insects
(preferrably other than mosquitoes).
If I can't go there I'd like to go to Patagonia or New Zeeland or Alaska or
Greenland or Iceland or Kamchatka or.................well, you get my
meaning.

/ Roger
Daytime engineer
Lifetime fly fisherman
If you feel like it, visit http://www.imsoc.se/angler/ for info on fly
fishing in northern Sweden, Lapland,
or visit http://www.imsoc.se/ffgallery/ , the fly fishermen's gallery.

[castnblast]

Bill Kiene wrote:
> Cays of southern Cuba..........for me.
>
> http://www.avalons.net/
>
> --
> Bill Kiene

Better be careful. Our ex-cocaine sniffing draft-dodger (and still
moron) president
will throw you in jail for that.

[castnblast]

Bill Kiene wrote:
> Cays of southern Cuba..........for me.
>
> http://www.avalons.net/
>
> --
> Bill Kiene

Better be careful. Our ex-cocaine sniffing draft-dodger (and still
moron) president
will throw you in jail for that.

[Goat]

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:32:08 -0700, "Padishar Creel"
> wrote:

>My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly fishing
>vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
>I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
>Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have never
>been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians, how
>about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
>money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
>Chris
>

I know for most it is not much of a stretch, but fo me...
Alaska. Hands down.
I even tried to think of another place, but really... Alaska.
Funny thing is, I don't even care where. Just as long as the fishing
is good and there is not sight or sound of civilization, one good
friend and cold beer.

[Goat]

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:32:08 -0700, "Padishar Creel"
> wrote:

>My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly fishing
>vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
>I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
>Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have never
>been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians, how
>about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
>money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
>Chris
>

I know for most it is not much of a stretch, but fo me...
Alaska. Hands down.
I even tried to think of another place, but really... Alaska.
Funny thing is, I don't even care where. Just as long as the fishing
is good and there is not sight or sound of civilization, one good
friend and cold beer.

[Dave Martel]

"rw" > wrote in message
m...
> Chas Wade wrote:
> >
> > So how abot a few hints on how you got it to cost 1/3 of the
> > Seychelles? I presume that makes it cheaper than the Bahamas.
>
> When I was at Christmas Island a few years ago I tried to figure out the
> cost of a roll-your-own trip (as opposed to a package with Kauffman's or
> someone like that). I can't quote any actual numbers, but my impression
> was that it could be done much cheaper. I don't think you'd have much
> trouble finding a boat and a guide. I'd stay in the town where the boats
> launch (can't recall the name), to avoid the truck ride across the
> island from the Captain Cook hotel.
>
> --
> Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Steve's right....the town is London. When I checked it would have been $9000
+ for a week in the Seychelles (including air and all incidentials) and a
week at Christmas is give/take $3500 if you get the free ait miles (as I
usually do) to Honolulu.

Dave M

[Dave Martel]

"rw" > wrote in message
m...
> Chas Wade wrote:
> >
> > So how abot a few hints on how you got it to cost 1/3 of the
> > Seychelles? I presume that makes it cheaper than the Bahamas.
>
> When I was at Christmas Island a few years ago I tried to figure out the
> cost of a roll-your-own trip (as opposed to a package with Kauffman's or
> someone like that). I can't quote any actual numbers, but my impression
> was that it could be done much cheaper. I don't think you'd have much
> trouble finding a boat and a guide. I'd stay in the town where the boats
> launch (can't recall the name), to avoid the truck ride across the
> island from the Captain Cook hotel.
>
> --
> Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Steve's right....the town is London. When I checked it would have been $9000
+ for a week in the Seychelles (including air and all incidentials) and a
week at Christmas is give/take $3500 if you get the free ait miles (as I
usually do) to Honolulu.

Dave M

[Rivers North]

> >My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
fishing
> >vacation, where would you want to go?"
> >
> >
> I know for most it is not much of a stretch, but fo me...
> Right out my front door is the Skeena River...I can fly fish 250 days a
year and catch Kings,Coho,Sockeye,Pinks and Chum as well as the most
exciting fish on a fly, the mighty Steelhead. All winter it's Ocean run
Cuts and Huge Native Rainbow's and of course Winter Steelhead. I don't have
to travel or dream about my fishing heaven, with my boat tied to the dock
and my two hounds for company everyday it's "fishon". Think Chrome gord p

[Rivers North]

> >My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
fishing
> >vacation, where would you want to go?"
> >
> >
> I know for most it is not much of a stretch, but fo me...
> Right out my front door is the Skeena River...I can fly fish 250 days a
year and catch Kings,Coho,Sockeye,Pinks and Chum as well as the most
exciting fish on a fly, the mighty Steelhead. All winter it's Ocean run
Cuts and Huge Native Rainbow's and of course Winter Steelhead. I don't have
to travel or dream about my fishing heaven, with my boat tied to the dock
and my two hounds for company everyday it's "fishon". Think Chrome gord p

[Gene Cottrell]

In my 50 years of flyfishing, I've found the best spot, but I'm not telling
anyone about it. Most days produce 40-50 of the most rip-snortin' natives
you could dream of. Over the last 25 years it's been discovered by too many
people already. In the early 80s I could spend 4 days floating and never see
another soul, but not any more.

Gene

"riverman" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
> ...
> > My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
> fishing
> > vacation, where would you want to go?"
> >
> > I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
> >
> > Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
> never
> > been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians,
> how
> > about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination --
IF
> > money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
>
> I just got asked this last summer. For me, the thrill of exotic locations
> and new sights is no longer a draw....I'd want to be back 'home'. Also,
the
> novelty of meeting new people or being introduced to unusual cultures is
> also no longer a real draw...give me the familiar sights, smells and
sounds
> of the old stomping grounds.
>
> Four or five summers ago, Kevin, Mark and I (my best friends from college,
> 20 years ago) did week-long canoe trip down the St Croix river on the
> Maine/Canada border. World class bass fishing, with fish taken on almost
> every cast. I guided that river for many years, so getting to take my buds
> on that water, and fish to our hearts content, was the best summer in many
> years. We were spin-casting at the time as I had not started flyfishing
yet,
> so for me, money being no object and any destination being possible, get
me
> in a canoe for a 2-week St Croix trip with Mark and Kevin, 8-ft 4wts, a
> couple boxes of dries, and some sunny days. Anyone can go to the
Seychelles,
> but not anyone can get out with their best buds on familar water and just
be
> at home!
>
> --riverman
>
>

[Gene Cottrell]

In my 50 years of flyfishing, I've found the best spot, but I'm not telling
anyone about it. Most days produce 40-50 of the most rip-snortin' natives
you could dream of. Over the last 25 years it's been discovered by too many
people already. In the early 80s I could spend 4 days floating and never see
another soul, but not any more.

Gene

"riverman" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
> ...
> > My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
> fishing
> > vacation, where would you want to go?"
> >
> > I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
> >
> > Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
> never
> > been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians,
> how
> > about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination --
IF
> > money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
>
> I just got asked this last summer. For me, the thrill of exotic locations
> and new sights is no longer a draw....I'd want to be back 'home'. Also,
the
> novelty of meeting new people or being introduced to unusual cultures is
> also no longer a real draw...give me the familiar sights, smells and
sounds
> of the old stomping grounds.
>
> Four or five summers ago, Kevin, Mark and I (my best friends from college,
> 20 years ago) did week-long canoe trip down the St Croix river on the
> Maine/Canada border. World class bass fishing, with fish taken on almost
> every cast. I guided that river for many years, so getting to take my buds
> on that water, and fish to our hearts content, was the best summer in many
> years. We were spin-casting at the time as I had not started flyfishing
yet,
> so for me, money being no object and any destination being possible, get
me
> in a canoe for a 2-week St Croix trip with Mark and Kevin, 8-ft 4wts, a
> couple boxes of dries, and some sunny days. Anyone can go to the
Seychelles,
> but not anyone can get out with their best buds on familar water and just
be
> at home!
>
> --riverman
>
>

[daytripper]

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 02:29:51 GMT, "Gene Cottrell"
> wrote:

>In my 50 years of flyfishing, I've found the best spot, but I'm not telling
>anyone about it. Most days produce 40-50 of the most rip-snortin' natives
>you could dream of. Over the last 25 years it's been discovered by too many
>people already. In the early 80s I could spend 4 days floating and never see
>another soul, but not any more.

So, what kind of natives *do* you catch in the Meadowlands?

/daytripper (wait - is one of them named "Hoffa"? ;-)

[daytripper]

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 02:29:51 GMT, "Gene Cottrell"
> wrote:

>In my 50 years of flyfishing, I've found the best spot, but I'm not telling
>anyone about it. Most days produce 40-50 of the most rip-snortin' natives
>you could dream of. Over the last 25 years it's been discovered by too many
>people already. In the early 80s I could spend 4 days floating and never see
>another soul, but not any more.

So, what kind of natives *do* you catch in the Meadowlands?

/daytripper (wait - is one of them named "Hoffa"? ;-)

[Wayne Harrison]

"Gene Cottrell" > wrote
]> In my 50 years of flyfishing, I've found the best spot, but I'm not
telling
> anyone about it. Most days produce 40-50 of the most rip-snortin' natives
> you could dream of. Over the last 25 years it's been discovered by too
many
> people already. In the early 80s I could spend 4 days floating and never
see
> another soul, but not any more.
>
> Gene

how nice of you to gloat.
\
jesus. what a useless post.

wayno

[Wayne Harrison]

"Gene Cottrell" > wrote
]> In my 50 years of flyfishing, I've found the best spot, but I'm not
telling
> anyone about it. Most days produce 40-50 of the most rip-snortin' natives
> you could dream of. Over the last 25 years it's been discovered by too
many
> people already. In the early 80s I could spend 4 days floating and never
see
> another soul, but not any more.
>
> Gene

how nice of you to gloat.
\
jesus. what a useless post.

wayno

[GregP]

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:32:08 -0700, "Padishar Creel"
> wrote:

> IF
>money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?


I'd do my best to leave 9/11 out of the equation.

[GregP]

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:32:08 -0700, "Padishar Creel"
> wrote:

> IF
>money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?


I'd do my best to leave 9/11 out of the equation.

[riverman]

"GregP" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:32:08 -0700, "Padishar Creel"
> > wrote:
>
> > IF
> >money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
>
> I'd do my best to leave 9/11 out of the equation.

Good point. And I'd try to leave 'all' behind, too.

--riverman

[riverman]

"GregP" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:32:08 -0700, "Padishar Creel"
> > wrote:
>
> > IF
> >money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
>
> I'd do my best to leave 9/11 out of the equation.

Good point. And I'd try to leave 'all' behind, too.

--riverman

[Lazarus Cooke]

In article >, Padishar Creel
> wrote:

> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"

I think answers are more useful about places the writer has been to.
I've heard of lots of places, but most of them, when I got there,
weren't what I'd expected.

My favourites are

Some of the small mountain streams in Corsica
The river Wylie, in Wiltshire
The Finn, in Donegal


Lazarus

--
Remover the rock from the email address

[Lazarus Cooke]

In article >, Padishar Creel
> wrote:

> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"

I think answers are more useful about places the writer has been to.
I've heard of lots of places, but most of them, when I got there,
weren't what I'd expected.

My favourites are

Some of the small mountain streams in Corsica
The river Wylie, in Wiltshire
The Finn, in Donegal


Lazarus

--
Remover the rock from the email address

[BJ Conner]

"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message >...
> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
> I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
> Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have never
> been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians, how
> about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
> money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
> Chris

I'm thinking of moving ot Victoria or thereabouts. Good fishing, maby
not the best in the world, but not bad.

[BJ Conner]

"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message >...
> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
> I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
> Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have never
> been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians, how
> about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
> money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
> Chris

I'm thinking of moving ot Victoria or thereabouts. Good fishing, maby
not the best in the world, but not bad.

[Ken Fortenberry]

BJ Conner wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of moving ot Victoria or thereabouts. ...

Yeah, if BushCo steals the election again this time Canada sounds
like a good option for me too. And Ireland, I've always been fond
of Ireland.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Ken Fortenberry]

BJ Conner wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of moving ot Victoria or thereabouts. ...

Yeah, if BushCo steals the election again this time Canada sounds
like a good option for me too. And Ireland, I've always been fond
of Ireland.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[George Cleveland]

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:32:08 -0700, "Padishar Creel"
> wrote:

>My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly fishing
>vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
>I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
>Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have never
>been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians, how
>about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
>money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
>Chris
>


Well, if I could take the money that a trip to the Seychelles would
cost and instead use it as a grubstake to live off, I'd take 4 months
off work and plop myself alongside of a little trout river for the
entire time. Watch the seasons and the bugs move through their
respective cycles. Catch fish. Eat some of them. Sleep. And then sleep
some more. Watch the sun set/night fall over the same horizon 120 days
in a row. Get on familiar terms with the local flying squirrels,
porkies and garter snakes.


g.c.

Did I mention sleep?

[George Cleveland]

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:56:21 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> wrote:

>BJ Conner wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking of moving ot Victoria or thereabouts. ...
>
>Yeah, if BushCo steals the election again this time Canada sounds
>like a good option for me too. And Ireland, I've always been fond
>of Ireland.


I've already looked into Canada. Didn't score high enough. Didn't
speak French well enough and for some reason they seem to have enough
semi-skilled factory workers already. YMMV, in fact I'm sure it would.
I guess my only other option is to stock up on Kalishnikovs and banana
clips. At least they're legal now.


g.c.

[George Cleveland]

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:56:21 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> wrote:

>BJ Conner wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking of moving ot Victoria or thereabouts. ...
>
>Yeah, if BushCo steals the election again this time Canada sounds
>like a good option for me too. And Ireland, I've always been fond
>of Ireland.


I've already looked into Canada. Didn't score high enough. Didn't
speak French well enough and for some reason they seem to have enough
semi-skilled factory workers already. YMMV, in fact I'm sure it would.
I guess my only other option is to stock up on Kalishnikovs and banana
clips. At least they're legal now.


g.c.

[Wolfgang]

"George Cleveland" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:56:21 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> > wrote:
>
> >BJ Conner wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm thinking of moving ot Victoria or thereabouts. ...
> >
> >Yeah, if BushCo steals the election again this time Canada sounds
> >like a good option for me too. And Ireland, I've always been fond
> >of Ireland.
>
>
> I've already looked into Canada. Didn't score high enough. Didn't
> speak French well enough and for some reason they seem to have enough
> semi-skilled factory workers already. YMMV, in fact I'm sure it would.
> I guess my only other option is to stock up on Kalishnikovs and banana
> clips. At least they're legal now.

Hm.....you going to be carrying any of those this weekend?

I got your email and was going to respond the same way, but I got to
thinking that would be pretty gauche.

I won't be able to make it this time around. I'd completely forgotten about
the Avalanche event and made other plans. For what it's worth, I wouldn't
have been able to make it anyway.......what with jail and hospital visits.
:(

Wolfgang
on the bright side, there's kayaking and cooking indian. :)

[Wolfgang]

"George Cleveland" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:56:21 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> > wrote:
>
> >BJ Conner wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm thinking of moving ot Victoria or thereabouts. ...
> >
> >Yeah, if BushCo steals the election again this time Canada sounds
> >like a good option for me too. And Ireland, I've always been fond
> >of Ireland.
>
>
> I've already looked into Canada. Didn't score high enough. Didn't
> speak French well enough and for some reason they seem to have enough
> semi-skilled factory workers already. YMMV, in fact I'm sure it would.
> I guess my only other option is to stock up on Kalishnikovs and banana
> clips. At least they're legal now.

Hm.....you going to be carrying any of those this weekend?

I got your email and was going to respond the same way, but I got to
thinking that would be pretty gauche.

I won't be able to make it this time around. I'd completely forgotten about
the Avalanche event and made other plans. For what it's worth, I wouldn't
have been able to make it anyway.......what with jail and hospital visits.
:(

Wolfgang
on the bright side, there's kayaking and cooking indian. :)

[Gene Cottrell]

"daytripper" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 02:29:51 GMT, "Gene Cottrell"
> > wrote:
>
> >In my 50 years of flyfishing, I've found the best spot, but I'm not
telling
> >anyone about it. Most days produce 40-50 of the most rip-snortin' natives
> >you could dream of. Over the last 25 years it's been discovered by too
many
> >people already. In the early 80s I could spend 4 days floating and never
see
> >another soul, but not any more.
>
> So, what kind of natives *do* you catch in the Meadowlands?
>
> /daytripper (wait - is one of them named "Hoffa"? ;-)

I didn't say it was in New Jersey - unfortunately I have to travel, but it's
worth it when I can get there.

[Gene Cottrell]

"daytripper" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 02:29:51 GMT, "Gene Cottrell"
> > wrote:
>
> >In my 50 years of flyfishing, I've found the best spot, but I'm not
telling
> >anyone about it. Most days produce 40-50 of the most rip-snortin' natives
> >you could dream of. Over the last 25 years it's been discovered by too
many
> >people already. In the early 80s I could spend 4 days floating and never
see
> >another soul, but not any more.
>
> So, what kind of natives *do* you catch in the Meadowlands?
>
> /daytripper (wait - is one of them named "Hoffa"? ;-)

I didn't say it was in New Jersey - unfortunately I have to travel, but it's
worth it when I can get there.

[daytripper]

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:00:59 -0500, "Wolfgang" > wrote:

>
>"George Cleveland" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:56:21 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >BJ Conner wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm thinking of moving ot Victoria or thereabouts. ...
>> >
>> >Yeah, if BushCo steals the election again this time Canada sounds
>> >like a good option for me too. And Ireland, I've always been fond
>> >of Ireland.
>>
>>
>> I've already looked into Canada. Didn't score high enough. Didn't
>> speak French well enough and for some reason they seem to have enough
>> semi-skilled factory workers already. YMMV, in fact I'm sure it would.
>> I guess my only other option is to stock up on Kalishnikovs and banana
>> clips. At least they're legal now.
>
>Hm.....you going to be carrying any of those this weekend?
>
>I got your email and was going to respond the same way, but I got to
>thinking that would be pretty gauche.
>
>I won't be able to make it this time around. I'd completely forgotten about
>the Avalanche event and made other plans. For what it's worth, I wouldn't
>have been able to make it anyway.......what with jail and hospital visits.
>:(
>
>Wolfgang
>on the bright side, there's kayaking and cooking indian. :)

Ain't they stringy?

/daytripper (waiting for the obligatory "taste like chicken"...)

[daytripper]

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:00:59 -0500, "Wolfgang" > wrote:

>
>"George Cleveland" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:56:21 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >BJ Conner wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm thinking of moving ot Victoria or thereabouts. ...
>> >
>> >Yeah, if BushCo steals the election again this time Canada sounds
>> >like a good option for me too. And Ireland, I've always been fond
>> >of Ireland.
>>
>>
>> I've already looked into Canada. Didn't score high enough. Didn't
>> speak French well enough and for some reason they seem to have enough
>> semi-skilled factory workers already. YMMV, in fact I'm sure it would.
>> I guess my only other option is to stock up on Kalishnikovs and banana
>> clips. At least they're legal now.
>
>Hm.....you going to be carrying any of those this weekend?
>
>I got your email and was going to respond the same way, but I got to
>thinking that would be pretty gauche.
>
>I won't be able to make it this time around. I'd completely forgotten about
>the Avalanche event and made other plans. For what it's worth, I wouldn't
>have been able to make it anyway.......what with jail and hospital visits.
>:(
>
>Wolfgang
>on the bright side, there's kayaking and cooking indian. :)

Ain't they stringy?

/daytripper (waiting for the obligatory "taste like chicken"...)

[B J Conner]

"daytripper" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:00:59 -0500, "Wolfgang" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"George Cleveland" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:56:21 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >BJ Conner wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm thinking of moving ot Victoria or thereabouts. ...
> >> >
> >> >Yeah, if BushCo steals the election again this time Canada sounds
> >> >like a good option for me too. And Ireland, I've always been fond
> >> >of Ireland.
> >>
> >>
> >> I've already looked into Canada. Didn't score high enough. Didn't
> >> speak French well enough and for some reason they seem to have enough
> >> semi-skilled factory workers already. YMMV, in fact I'm sure it would.
> >> I guess my only other option is to stock up on Kalishnikovs and banana
> >> clips. At least they're legal now.
> >
> >Hm.....you going to be carrying any of those this weekend?
> >
> >I got your email and was going to respond the same way, but I got to
> >thinking that would be pretty gauche.
> >
> >I won't be able to make it this time around. I'd completely forgotten
about
> >the Avalanche event and made other plans. For what it's worth, I
wouldn't
> >have been able to make it anyway.......what with jail and hospital
visits.
> >:(
> >
> >Wolfgang
> >on the bright side, there's kayaking and cooking indian. :)
>
> Ain't they stringy?
>
> /daytripper (waiting for the obligatory "taste like chicken"...)

Indian cooking is big around here, several restaurants over by the Intel
nerd farm.

[Charlie Wilson]

"B J Conner" wrote:
> Indian cooking is big around here, several restaurants over by the Intel
> nerd farm.

That sounds yummy, but cannibalism has been illegal in my state ever
since Alferd Packer gave it such a bad name and screwed it up for everybody
else.

[Charlie Wilson]

"B J Conner" wrote:
> Indian cooking is big around here, several restaurants over by the Intel
> nerd farm.

That sounds yummy, but cannibalism has been illegal in my state ever
since Alferd Packer gave it such a bad name and screwed it up for everybody
else.

[Frank Reid]

>>on the bright side, there's kayaking and cooking indian. :)
>
>
> Ain't they stringy?
>
> /daytripper (waiting for the obligatory "taste like chicken"...)

Chicken Curry
--
Frank Reid
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[Frank Reid]

>>on the bright side, there's kayaking and cooking indian. :)
>
>
> Ain't they stringy?
>
> /daytripper (waiting for the obligatory "taste like chicken"...)

Chicken Curry
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[Clark Reid]

I would obviously say New Zealand, but that's not based on much as I've
never fished anywhere else.

Identifying "the best" is a tough call and individual. I am told by anglers
that travel a lot that if you want to catch numbers (I'm talking freshwater
here) then Alaska and Russia are the places to go.
If you want technical trout fishing, then go to the better US Streams. If
you want sight fishing with dry fly for trout in the 20" plus range... New
Zealand. For bonefish, while I've never so much as seen one apart from in a
photograph, I am assured that the Seychelles first, then Christmas Island.
Someone mentioned Cuba, if you can get there it's meant to be awesome.

I doubt I've been much help but who knows.....

Clark


"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
...
> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
> I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
> Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
never
> been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians,
how
> about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
> money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
> Chris
>
>

[Clark Reid]

I would obviously say New Zealand, but that's not based on much as I've
never fished anywhere else.

Identifying "the best" is a tough call and individual. I am told by anglers
that travel a lot that if you want to catch numbers (I'm talking freshwater
here) then Alaska and Russia are the places to go.
If you want technical trout fishing, then go to the better US Streams. If
you want sight fishing with dry fly for trout in the 20" plus range... New
Zealand. For bonefish, while I've never so much as seen one apart from in a
photograph, I am assured that the Seychelles first, then Christmas Island.
Someone mentioned Cuba, if you can get there it's meant to be awesome.

I doubt I've been much help but who knows.....

Clark


"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
...
> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
> I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
> Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
never
> been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians,
how
> about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
> money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
> Chris
>
>

[Clark Reid]

I would obviously say New Zealand, but that's not based on much as I've
never fished anywhere else.

Identifying "the best" is a tough call and individual. I am told by anglers
that travel a lot that if you want to catch numbers (I'm talking freshwater
here) then Alaska and Russia are the places to go.
If you want technical trout fishing, then go to the better US Streams. If
you want sight fishing with dry fly for trout in the 20" plus range... New
Zealand. For bonefish, while I've never so much as seen one apart from in a
photograph, I am assured that the Seychelles first, then Christmas Island.
Someone mentioned Cuba, if you can get there it's meant to be awesome.

I doubt I've been much help but who knows.....

Clark


"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
...
> My wife asked me, "if you couild go anywhere in the world for a fly
fishing
> vacation, where would you want to go?"
>
> I answered immediately, "The Seychelles!"
>
> Then I got to wondering if that is really the very best, since I have
never
> been there or any really exotic fly fishing locals.. So fellow Roffians,
how
> about your opinions on the absolute ultimate fly fishing destination -- IF
> money was not a consideration, where would you go now with 9/11 and all?
>
> Chris
>
>

[Dave LaCourse]

If I could do away with the Russian MIL helicopter, and the Russian airlines,
I'd go to the Kola Peninsula or Kamchatka. Anywhere in Alaska would be my
"safe" choice, particularly the Alaska Sportsman's Lodge on the Kvichak River
(Lake Iliamna). Big silvers, chum, humpies, dolly vardens, grayling, and world
class Rainbows ( 30+ inches). And the bears, scenery, and hospitality at the
lodge are wonderful.

[Dave LaCourse]

If I could do away with the Russian MIL helicopter, and the Russian airlines,
I'd go to the Kola Peninsula or Kamchatka. Anywhere in Alaska would be my
"safe" choice, particularly the Alaska Sportsman's Lodge on the Kvichak River
(Lake Iliamna). Big silvers, chum, humpies, dolly vardens, grayling, and world
class Rainbows ( 30+ inches). And the bears, scenery, and hospitality at the
lodge are wonderful.

[Dave LaCourse]

If I could do away with the Russian MIL helicopter, and the Russian airlines,
I'd go to the Kola Peninsula or Kamchatka. Anywhere in Alaska would be my
"safe" choice, particularly the Alaska Sportsman's Lodge on the Kvichak River
(Lake Iliamna). Big silvers, chum, humpies, dolly vardens, grayling, and world
class Rainbows ( 30+ inches). And the bears, scenery, and hospitality at the
lodge are wonderful.