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Mil80C
September 15th, 2004, 11:23 AM
Mike,
Don't ever leave the rod at home, it will guarantee you'll wish you'd taken
it five minutes after you arrive. If nothing else, you can have some good
sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto the bank,
they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and put back
in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
BTW shrimp are great bait for the river.

"Mike Harding" > wrote in message
...
> I know next to nothing about fishing - and I'm camping on
> the banks of the Murray east of Albury for a few days next
> week. I understand Murray Cod are out of season at the
> moment, is there anything else worth catching (to eat)
> in that area or should I just leave the rod at home?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Mike Harding
>

Mil80C
September 15th, 2004, 11:23 AM
Mike,
Don't ever leave the rod at home, it will guarantee you'll wish you'd taken
it five minutes after you arrive. If nothing else, you can have some good
sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto the bank,
they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and put back
in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
BTW shrimp are great bait for the river.

"Mike Harding" > wrote in message
...
> I know next to nothing about fishing - and I'm camping on
> the banks of the Murray east of Albury for a few days next
> week. I understand Murray Cod are out of season at the
> moment, is there anything else worth catching (to eat)
> in that area or should I just leave the rod at home?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Mike Harding
>

Mil80C
September 15th, 2004, 11:23 AM
Mike,
Don't ever leave the rod at home, it will guarantee you'll wish you'd taken
it five minutes after you arrive. If nothing else, you can have some good
sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto the bank,
they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and put back
in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
BTW shrimp are great bait for the river.

"Mike Harding" > wrote in message
...
> I know next to nothing about fishing - and I'm camping on
> the banks of the Murray east of Albury for a few days next
> week. I understand Murray Cod are out of season at the
> moment, is there anything else worth catching (to eat)
> in that area or should I just leave the rod at home?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Mike Harding
>

Old Joe
September 15th, 2004, 02:38 PM
Mil80C > wrote:

> If nothing else, you can have some good
> sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto the bank,
> they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and put back
> in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.

Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?

Old Joe
September 15th, 2004, 02:38 PM
Mil80C > wrote:

> If nothing else, you can have some good
> sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto the bank,
> they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and put back
> in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.

Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?

Ken Oaf
September 15th, 2004, 10:28 PM
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:38:22 +1000, (Old Joe) wrote:

> > If nothing else, you can have some good
> > sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto the bank,
> > they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and put back
> > in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
>
> Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?

This is correct.

You can't even dump them within a certain distance of the water.

Ken Oaf
September 15th, 2004, 10:28 PM
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:38:22 +1000, (Old Joe) wrote:

> > If nothing else, you can have some good
> > sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto the bank,
> > they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and put back
> > in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
>
> Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?

This is correct.

You can't even dump them within a certain distance of the water.

Mil80C
September 17th, 2004, 08:44 AM
"Old Joe" > wrote in message
...
> Mil80C > wrote:
>
> > If nothing else, you can have some good
> > sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto the
bank,
> > they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and put
back
> > in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
>
> Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?

No it is not illegal to return dead carp to the water, for example live carp
can not be used as bait but dead carp (or parts of) can.

Mil80C
September 17th, 2004, 08:44 AM
"Old Joe" > wrote in message
...
> Mil80C > wrote:
>
> > If nothing else, you can have some good
> > sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto the
bank,
> > they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and put
back
> > in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
>
> Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?

No it is not illegal to return dead carp to the water, for example live carp
can not be used as bait but dead carp (or parts of) can.

Mil80C
September 17th, 2004, 08:47 AM
"Ken Oaf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:38:22 +1000, (Old Joe) wrote:
>
> > > If nothing else, you can have some good
> > > sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto the
bank,
> > > they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and
put back
> > > in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
> >
> > Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?
>
> This is correct.
>
> You can't even dump them within a certain distance of the water.
>
>
OK, if you believe this to be so, can you please quote your reference so
that we all know the facts, The NSW Dept of Primary Industries indicated
that LIVE carp can not be used as bait, leading one to believe that DEAD
carp can and also that DEAD carp can be placed back in the river to feed the
shrimp and yabbies.

Mil80C
September 17th, 2004, 08:47 AM
"Ken Oaf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:38:22 +1000, (Old Joe) wrote:
>
> > > If nothing else, you can have some good
> > > sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto the
bank,
> > > they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and
put back
> > > in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
> >
> > Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?
>
> This is correct.
>
> You can't even dump them within a certain distance of the water.
>
>
OK, if you believe this to be so, can you please quote your reference so
that we all know the facts, The NSW Dept of Primary Industries indicated
that LIVE carp can not be used as bait, leading one to believe that DEAD
carp can and also that DEAD carp can be placed back in the river to feed the
shrimp and yabbies.

Ken Oaf
September 18th, 2004, 08:08 AM
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:47:22 GMT, "Mil80C" > wrote:

> > > Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?
> >
> > This is correct.
> >
> > You can't even dump them within a certain distance of the water.
> >
> >
> OK, if you believe this to be so, can you please quote your reference so
> that we all know the facts, The NSW Dept of Primary Industries indicated
> that LIVE carp can not be used as bait, leading one to believe that DEAD
> carp can and also that DEAD carp can be placed back in the river to feed the
> shrimp and yabbies.

I was told this about 15 years ago by a NSW fisheries officer just prior to the
commencement of an ANSA fishing tournament on Burrinjuck Dam.

Ken Oaf
September 18th, 2004, 08:08 AM
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:47:22 GMT, "Mil80C" > wrote:

> > > Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?
> >
> > This is correct.
> >
> > You can't even dump them within a certain distance of the water.
> >
> >
> OK, if you believe this to be so, can you please quote your reference so
> that we all know the facts, The NSW Dept of Primary Industries indicated
> that LIVE carp can not be used as bait, leading one to believe that DEAD
> carp can and also that DEAD carp can be placed back in the river to feed the
> shrimp and yabbies.

I was told this about 15 years ago by a NSW fisheries officer just prior to the
commencement of an ANSA fishing tournament on Burrinjuck Dam.

Mil80C
September 19th, 2004, 07:33 AM
"Ken Oaf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:47:22 GMT, "Mil80C" >
wrote:
>
> > > > Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?
> > >
> > > This is correct.
> > >
> > > You can't even dump them within a certain distance of the water.
> > >
> > >
> > OK, if you believe this to be so, can you please quote your reference so
> > that we all know the facts, The NSW Dept of Primary Industries
indicated
> > that LIVE carp can not be used as bait, leading one to believe that DEAD
> > carp can and also that DEAD carp can be placed back in the river to feed
the
> > shrimp and yabbies.
>
> I was told this about 15 years ago by a NSW fisheries officer just prior
to the
> commencement of an ANSA fishing tournament on Burrinjuck Dam.

Well Ken, I can only suggest that he was either giving you information which
was correct then but not now or that he was pulling your leg. Suggest you
seek up to date information.

>
>

Old Joe
September 20th, 2004, 09:43 AM
Mil80C > wrote:

> Well Ken, I can only suggest that he was either giving you information which
> was correct then but not now or that he was pulling your leg. Suggest you
> seek up to date information.

So on the off-chance that I do pull one of these vermin from the water
what action should I take?

Mil80C
September 20th, 2004, 11:05 AM
"Old Joe" > wrote in message
...
> Mil80C > wrote:
>
> > Well Ken, I can only suggest that he was either giving you information
which
> > was correct then but not now or that he was pulling your leg. Suggest
you
> > seek up to date information.
>
> So on the off-chance that I do pull one of these vermin from the water
> what action should I take?

My suggestion would be that you should ask the Parks and Wildlife or other
relevant authority for the current rules. And if there are no rules once
the pest is dead then I believe it should be returned to the river to feed
the shrimp etc.

Ken Oaf
September 21st, 2004, 07:52 AM
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:43:37 +1000, (Old Joe) wrote:

> > Well Ken, I can only suggest that he was either giving you information which
> > was correct then but not now or that he was pulling your leg. Suggest you
> > seek up to date information.
>
> So on the off-chance that I do pull one of these vermin from the water
> what action should I take?

Dig a hole and bury it.

ASIS
October 21st, 2004, 06:12 PM
YOU SAID MATE IF YOU GET CAUGHT U GET A STIFF FINE IF THE INTENTIONS ARE
GOOD..

our club caught a massive 35kg carp at lake eppalock some time ago.. it
fought well as it treid to take the rod with it back to middle of
lake..lucky we had a boat standing by and were able to retrieve the gear
with the fish still hooked on the end of it..

nice catch tho..

it was fun


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"Old Joe" > wrote in message
...
> Mil80C > wrote:
>
> > If nothing else, you can have some good
> > sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto the
bank,
> > they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and put
back
> > in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
>
> Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?

ASIS
October 21st, 2004, 06:12 PM
YOU SAID MATE IF YOU GET CAUGHT U GET A STIFF FINE IF THE INTENTIONS ARE
GOOD..

our club caught a massive 35kg carp at lake eppalock some time ago.. it
fought well as it treid to take the rod with it back to middle of
lake..lucky we had a boat standing by and were able to retrieve the gear
with the fish still hooked on the end of it..

nice catch tho..

it was fun


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"Old Joe" > wrote in message
...
> Mil80C > wrote:
>
> > If nothing else, you can have some good
> > sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto the
bank,
> > they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and put
back
> > in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
>
> Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?

ASIS
October 21st, 2004, 06:17 PM
Ive been under the imprssion that carp should not be returned to the water
in either state dead or alive and also be some distance away from the
bank... but all this info should be on the vrfish' website or similar

all in all carp is a menace and we should all try and reduce its population
where possible in humane way as well..

i dont mind a weekend of carp fishing now n then..



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"Mil80C" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ken Oaf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:38:22 +1000, (Old Joe) wrote:
> >
> > > > If nothing else, you can have some good
> > > > sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto
the
> bank,
> > > > they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and
> put back
> > > > in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
> > >
> > > Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?
> >
> > This is correct.
> >
> > You can't even dump them within a certain distance of the water.
> >
> >
> OK, if you believe this to be so, can you please quote your reference so
> that we all know the facts, The NSW Dept of Primary Industries indicated
> that LIVE carp can not be used as bait, leading one to believe that DEAD
> carp can and also that DEAD carp can be placed back in the river to feed
the
> shrimp and yabbies.
>
>

ASIS
October 21st, 2004, 06:17 PM
Ive been under the imprssion that carp should not be returned to the water
in either state dead or alive and also be some distance away from the
bank... but all this info should be on the vrfish' website or similar

all in all carp is a menace and we should all try and reduce its population
where possible in humane way as well..

i dont mind a weekend of carp fishing now n then..



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"Mil80C" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ken Oaf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:38:22 +1000, (Old Joe) wrote:
> >
> > > > If nothing else, you can have some good
> > > > sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto
the
> bank,
> > > > they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed and
> put back
> > > > in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
> > >
> > > Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?
> >
> > This is correct.
> >
> > You can't even dump them within a certain distance of the water.
> >
> >
> OK, if you believe this to be so, can you please quote your reference so
> that we all know the facts, The NSW Dept of Primary Industries indicated
> that LIVE carp can not be used as bait, leading one to believe that DEAD
> carp can and also that DEAD carp can be placed back in the river to feed
the
> shrimp and yabbies.
>
>

MIL80C
October 22nd, 2004, 08:15 AM
"ASIS" > wrote in message
...
> Ive been under the imprssion that carp should not be returned to the
water
> in either state dead or alive and also be some distance away from the
> bank... but all this info should be on the vrfish' website or similar
>
> all in all carp is a menace and we should all try and reduce its
population
> where possible in humane way as well..

Hmmmm humane???? mate if you think sticking barbed steel hooks into
something, making it fight for it's life on the end of a line for personal
amusement and then slitting its throat is 'humane' then I think you have
missed something here, noone, least of all me has any intention of being
"humane" to a carp, OK?

Back to the question of killing them and sticking them back in the river,
quite apart from the great advice of checking with your state fisheries
people, can anyone give me a logical reason why a dead carp can not be
returned to the river?


>
> i dont mind a weekend of carp fishing now n then..
>
>
>
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> "Mil80C" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Ken Oaf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:38:22 +1000, (Old Joe) wrote:
> > >
> > > > > If nothing else, you can have some good
> > > > > sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp onto
> the
> > bank,
> > > > > they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed
and
> > put back
> > > > > in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the water?
> > >
> > > This is correct.
> > >
> > > You can't even dump them within a certain distance of the water.
> > >
> > >
> > OK, if you believe this to be so, can you please quote your reference so
> > that we all know the facts, The NSW Dept of Primary Industries
indicated
> > that LIVE carp can not be used as bait, leading one to believe that DEAD
> > carp can and also that DEAD carp can be placed back in the river to feed
> the
> > shrimp and yabbies.
> >
> >
>
>

JEWEL
October 22nd, 2004, 09:10 AM
Best I can think of is pregnancy.


"MIL80C" > wrote in message
...
>
> "ASIS" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ive been under the imprssion that carp should not be returned to the
> water
> > in either state dead or alive and also be some distance away from the
> > bank... but all this info should be on the vrfish' website or similar
> >
> > all in all carp is a menace and we should all try and reduce its
> population
> > where possible in humane way as well..
>
> Hmmmm humane???? mate if you think sticking barbed steel hooks into
> something, making it fight for it's life on the end of a line for personal
> amusement and then slitting its throat is 'humane' then I think you have
> missed something here, noone, least of all me has any intention of being
> "humane" to a carp, OK?
>
> Back to the question of killing them and sticking them back in the river,
> quite apart from the great advice of checking with your state fisheries
> people, can anyone give me a logical reason why a dead carp can not be
> returned to the river?
>
>
> >
> > i dont mind a weekend of carp fishing now n then..
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
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> > ...
> > >
> > > "Ken Oaf" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:38:22 +1000, (Old Joe)
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > If nothing else, you can have some good
> > > > > > sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp
onto
> > the
> > > bank,
> > > > > > they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply killed
> and
> > > put back
> > > > > > in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
> > > > >
> > > > > Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the
water?
> > > >
> > > > This is correct.
> > > >
> > > > You can't even dump them within a certain distance of the water.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > OK, if you believe this to be so, can you please quote your reference
so
> > > that we all know the facts, The NSW Dept of Primary Industries
> indicated
> > > that LIVE carp can not be used as bait, leading one to believe that
DEAD
> > > carp can and also that DEAD carp can be placed back in the river to
feed
> > the
> > > shrimp and yabbies.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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MIL80C
October 22nd, 2004, 09:17 AM
"JEWEL" > wrote in message
...
> Best I can think of is pregnancy.
>
For one ignorant of the reproduction process of fish, I can understand your
concern. However, allow me to enlighten you, female fish have to expell
their (unfertilised) eggs into a suitable area and the male then produces
sperm into the water over the eggs to fertilise them, so.... dead fish do
not expell eggs, nor do they produce sperm.

Next?


>
> "MIL80C" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "ASIS" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Ive been under the imprssion that carp should not be returned to the
> > water
> > > in either state dead or alive and also be some distance away from the
> > > bank... but all this info should be on the vrfish' website or similar
> > >
> > > all in all carp is a menace and we should all try and reduce its
> > population
> > > where possible in humane way as well..
> >
> > Hmmmm humane???? mate if you think sticking barbed steel hooks into
> > something, making it fight for it's life on the end of a line for
personal
> > amusement and then slitting its throat is 'humane' then I think you have
> > missed something here, noone, least of all me has any intention of being
> > "humane" to a carp, OK?
> >
> > Back to the question of killing them and sticking them back in the
river,
> > quite apart from the great advice of checking with your state fisheries
> > people, can anyone give me a logical reason why a dead carp can not be
> > returned to the river?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > i dont mind a weekend of carp fishing now n then..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > > "Mil80C" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > "Ken Oaf" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:38:22 +1000, (Old Joe)
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > If nothing else, you can have some good
> > > > > > > sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp
> onto
> > > the
> > > > bank,
> > > > > > > they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply
killed
> > and
> > > > put back
> > > > > > > in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the
> water?
> > > > >
> > > > > This is correct.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can't even dump them within a certain distance of the water.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > OK, if you believe this to be so, can you please quote your
reference
> so
> > > > that we all know the facts, The NSW Dept of Primary Industries
> > indicated
> > > > that LIVE carp can not be used as bait, leading one to believe that
> DEAD
> > > > carp can and also that DEAD carp can be placed back in the river to
> feed
> > > the
> > > > shrimp and yabbies.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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MIL80C
October 22nd, 2004, 09:17 AM
"JEWEL" > wrote in message
...
> Best I can think of is pregnancy.
>
For one ignorant of the reproduction process of fish, I can understand your
concern. However, allow me to enlighten you, female fish have to expell
their (unfertilised) eggs into a suitable area and the male then produces
sperm into the water over the eggs to fertilise them, so.... dead fish do
not expell eggs, nor do they produce sperm.

Next?


>
> "MIL80C" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "ASIS" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Ive been under the imprssion that carp should not be returned to the
> > water
> > > in either state dead or alive and also be some distance away from the
> > > bank... but all this info should be on the vrfish' website or similar
> > >
> > > all in all carp is a menace and we should all try and reduce its
> > population
> > > where possible in humane way as well..
> >
> > Hmmmm humane???? mate if you think sticking barbed steel hooks into
> > something, making it fight for it's life on the end of a line for
personal
> > amusement and then slitting its throat is 'humane' then I think you have
> > missed something here, noone, least of all me has any intention of being
> > "humane" to a carp, OK?
> >
> > Back to the question of killing them and sticking them back in the
river,
> > quite apart from the great advice of checking with your state fisheries
> > people, can anyone give me a logical reason why a dead carp can not be
> > returned to the river?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > i dont mind a weekend of carp fishing now n then..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > >
> > > "Mil80C" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > "Ken Oaf" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:38:22 +1000, (Old Joe)
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > If nothing else, you can have some good
> > > > > > > sport on light tackle trying to get some of the European Carp
> onto
> > > the
> > > > bank,
> > > > > > > they then make great yabbie pot bait or should be simply
killed
> > and
> > > > put back
> > > > > > > in to feed the yabbies and shrimp.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Isn't it illegal to return any carp - alive or dead - to the
> water?
> > > > >
> > > > > This is correct.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can't even dump them within a certain distance of the water.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > OK, if you believe this to be so, can you please quote your
reference
> so
> > > > that we all know the facts, The NSW Dept of Primary Industries
> > indicated
> > > > that LIVE carp can not be used as bait, leading one to believe that
> DEAD
> > > > carp can and also that DEAD carp can be placed back in the river to
> feed
> > > the
> > > > shrimp and yabbies.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Ol Stinkbait
October 23rd, 2004, 03:02 AM
Regarding Carp--here in Texas,over 25 years ago,Grass Carp were
introduced to many waters in order to reduce the dence vegetation. Bad
idea-duh. The sows produced like rabbits resulting in millions of water
acreage being totally destroyed for lack of vegetation. Is now up to a
$25000.00 fine to stock,own or introduce Carp to ANY Texas waters of the
female species. Personally,I love hanging these 50 lb. critters! They DO
test your tackle. Dave