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Dave LaCourse
September 19th, 2004, 01:20 AM
...... drift a size 22 PT look-alike tied by Bruce Hopper (Bruiser) through
Zimmerman's Run with a Peter Colin built 4/5 weight boo rod? Why, a little
brookie, of course, then a big brookie, and a bigger salmon (22 inches) and
some more salmon and brookies, enough to tire out this old man. But, it was
Thursday and the week was almost over.

Joanne, Henry, and I arrived at Lakewood for lunch on Sunday. I put on my suit
of lights and hit the Rapid at Middle Dam. Fishing was slow, probably because
they were still drawing only 390 cfs. The water was warm (68 degrees). It
should be in the low 60s, especially after all the cold rain they've had.
Still, I managed a few nice brookies and small salmon on cdc dries. It is good
to see the smaller fish, because bass have entered the river after being
illegally stocked in Umbagog 20 years ago. The biggest fear is that they will
eat the smaller brookies/salmon.

Thanks to the "deal" made by Maine's TU chapters with Florida Power and Light,
the Rapid is being run most of the fishing season at 390 cfs, turning it into a
warm water stream. The bass that were illegally stocked in Lake Umbagog 20
years ago are finally finding refuge in the warm waters of the Rapid. Minimum
flow, except during drought years, should be 600. Normal flow should be 800
cfs.

I spent most of Monday and part of Tuesday trying to find some cool water. The
"currents" were running at 68, as was Lower Dam. On Wednesday, the water flow
was upped to 600 cfs, and within a few hours the water temp went down to 66.
It was 64 this morning before breakfast. I spent Wednesday with friends at
Lower Dam. Fishing was slow, but I did manage an 18 inch brookie first thing.
A friend caught a 22 inch salmon on a streamer, but the fish would not
recover. The man and his son tried for 45 minutes to revive the fish in highly
oxygenated water. They believe it was because the temp of the water was 68
degrees. Could be. It was breakfast for four on Wednesday. With new regs in
effect, Wednesday was the last day this season to fish from Lower Dam down
stream to Long Pool.

By Thursday the river had cooled and bigger fish were entering the "currents"
and the pools below Middle Dam. Pond in the River fished well as did the
Spawning Beds. I stayed at Middle Dam because I was to meet some friends
there. Fishing was the best I've had on the river since the 2nd week in June,
with lots of salmon and brookies of all sizes. I fished Zimmerman's Run using
Peter Colin's wonderfully strong 4/5 weight boo rod. I did so well that when
the four friends arrived, we decided to continue at Middle Dam. Everyone did
well, with some very big brookies and land locks landed and safely released.
Friday was more of the same, with a couple of 22 inch land locks and a couple
of 18+ brookies. Was it coincidental that the good fishing started when the
water temp went down because more water was being drawn?

If someone doesn't kick TUs ass and bring pressure upon Florida Power, the
Rapid as I know it will disappear, and all the flies of Bruce Hopper and the
fly rods of Peter Colin will be in vain, and Zimmerman's Run may some day be a
bass pond.

Flyfish
September 21st, 2004, 11:17 PM
(Dave LaCourse) wrote in
:

> If someone doesn't kick TUs ass and bring pressure upon Florida Power,
> the Rapid as I know it will disappear, and all the flies of Bruce
> Hopper and the fly rods of Peter Colin will be in vain, and
> Zimmerman's Run may some day be a bass pond.

Isn't going to happen. TU is powerful now that they've stolen the credit
for removing Edwards dam and there is nothing else in Maine to counter
them. TU is busy kissing FPL's ass for ladders between Waterville and
Shawmut (and above) because they have this fantasy that Shawmut will be
ever so much better with ladders in place.

I heard last week they're taking northern pike above the dam in Lewiston
on the Andy. That's bad news. I also heard the state caught one guy with
live pike in his livewell and confiscated his boat, truck, gear and fined
him $10,000. He will also never be able to purchase a fishing license in
Maine again. Wonder how many pike he moved before that?

As near as I can tell the traditional fisheries are going to die under an
onslaught of pike, bass and black crappie, here in Maine unless the state
completely outlaws live wells and starts shooting the perps they catch.
That's never going to happen.

Flyfish

Flyfish
September 21st, 2004, 11:17 PM
(Dave LaCourse) wrote in
:

> If someone doesn't kick TUs ass and bring pressure upon Florida Power,
> the Rapid as I know it will disappear, and all the flies of Bruce
> Hopper and the fly rods of Peter Colin will be in vain, and
> Zimmerman's Run may some day be a bass pond.

Isn't going to happen. TU is powerful now that they've stolen the credit
for removing Edwards dam and there is nothing else in Maine to counter
them. TU is busy kissing FPL's ass for ladders between Waterville and
Shawmut (and above) because they have this fantasy that Shawmut will be
ever so much better with ladders in place.

I heard last week they're taking northern pike above the dam in Lewiston
on the Andy. That's bad news. I also heard the state caught one guy with
live pike in his livewell and confiscated his boat, truck, gear and fined
him $10,000. He will also never be able to purchase a fishing license in
Maine again. Wonder how many pike he moved before that?

As near as I can tell the traditional fisheries are going to die under an
onslaught of pike, bass and black crappie, here in Maine unless the state
completely outlaws live wells and starts shooting the perps they catch.
That's never going to happen.

Flyfish

Tom Littleton
September 21st, 2004, 11:37 PM
Flyfish writes:
>As near as I can tell the traditional fisheries are going to die under an
>onslaught of pike, bass and black crappie, here in Maine unless the state
>completely outlaws live wells and starts shooting the perps they catch.

Is this a small group that is engaged in this creative stocking, or is there
some sort of public interest in such fish to be introduced? Not that it
matters, once the damage starts, as it snowballs, biologically speaking. I am
just curious what moves some pinheads to do obvious damage to what has been a
haven for fine angling for generations.
Tom
p.s. A quick aside, I have been posting
here for over a decade at this point,
to clarify bum info you might have
gotten.....not that it matters or that
anyone should give a rats ass. Just a
quick clarification<g>

Tom Littleton
September 21st, 2004, 11:37 PM
Flyfish writes:
>As near as I can tell the traditional fisheries are going to die under an
>onslaught of pike, bass and black crappie, here in Maine unless the state
>completely outlaws live wells and starts shooting the perps they catch.

Is this a small group that is engaged in this creative stocking, or is there
some sort of public interest in such fish to be introduced? Not that it
matters, once the damage starts, as it snowballs, biologically speaking. I am
just curious what moves some pinheads to do obvious damage to what has been a
haven for fine angling for generations.
Tom
p.s. A quick aside, I have been posting
here for over a decade at this point,
to clarify bum info you might have
gotten.....not that it matters or that
anyone should give a rats ass. Just a
quick clarification<g>

Flyfish
September 22nd, 2004, 10:19 PM
(Tom Littleton) wrote in
:

> Flyfish writes:
>>As near as I can tell the traditional fisheries are going to die under
>>an onslaught of pike, bass and black crappie, here in Maine unless the
>>state completely outlaws live wells and starts shooting the perps they
>>catch.
>
> Is this a small group that is engaged in this creative stocking, or is
> there some sort of public interest in such fish to be introduced? Not
> that it matters, once the damage starts, as it snowballs, biologically
> speaking. I am just curious what moves some pinheads to do obvious
> damage to what has been a haven for fine angling for generations.
> Tom
> p.s. A quick aside, I have been posting
> here for over a decade at this point,
> to clarify bum info you might have
> gotten.....not that it matters or that
> anyone should give a rats ass. Just a
> quick clarification<g>
>
>

I have no idea what the motivation is for illegal stocking. But in the
past decade it has become a huge problem. There are ample opportunities
to fish for any of those species (now) and no need to move them into
waters that were traditionally dominated by other species. The pike in
particular, have become popular, likely because they get quite large in
comparison to brook trout and the big ones are easier to catch than the
largest of brookies. All I know is that they are beginning to show up all
over the place and it's a damn shame. We've also got another threat with
muskie moving down the St. John's river and into all it's feeder waters,
they seem to be spreading slower but it's only a matter of time before
people start to get turned on by that too.

Clarification understood <g> been around (here) since it opened.

Fly

Flyfish
September 22nd, 2004, 10:19 PM
(Tom Littleton) wrote in
:

> Flyfish writes:
>>As near as I can tell the traditional fisheries are going to die under
>>an onslaught of pike, bass and black crappie, here in Maine unless the
>>state completely outlaws live wells and starts shooting the perps they
>>catch.
>
> Is this a small group that is engaged in this creative stocking, or is
> there some sort of public interest in such fish to be introduced? Not
> that it matters, once the damage starts, as it snowballs, biologically
> speaking. I am just curious what moves some pinheads to do obvious
> damage to what has been a haven for fine angling for generations.
> Tom
> p.s. A quick aside, I have been posting
> here for over a decade at this point,
> to clarify bum info you might have
> gotten.....not that it matters or that
> anyone should give a rats ass. Just a
> quick clarification<g>
>
>

I have no idea what the motivation is for illegal stocking. But in the
past decade it has become a huge problem. There are ample opportunities
to fish for any of those species (now) and no need to move them into
waters that were traditionally dominated by other species. The pike in
particular, have become popular, likely because they get quite large in
comparison to brook trout and the big ones are easier to catch than the
largest of brookies. All I know is that they are beginning to show up all
over the place and it's a damn shame. We've also got another threat with
muskie moving down the St. John's river and into all it's feeder waters,
they seem to be spreading slower but it's only a matter of time before
people start to get turned on by that too.

Clarification understood <g> been around (here) since it opened.

Fly