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Lazarus Cooke
October 16th, 2004, 10:49 AM
Does anyone know where this fly is first recorded, and where it comes
from?
Veniard has versions of it in both volumes of the Fly Dresser's Guide,
but Courtney Williams doesn't appear to mention it. It's often referred
to as a British fly that became particularly popular in N. America.
Also, how authentic is the GP tippet tail?
Lazarus
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Sandy Birrell
October 16th, 2004, 01:00 PM
Lazarus Cooke wrote:
> Does anyone know where this fly is first recorded, and where it comes
> from?
>
> Veniard has versions of it in both volumes of the Fly Dresser's Guide,
> but Courtney Williams doesn't appear to mention it. It's often
> referred to as a British fly that became particularly popular in N.
> America.
>
> Also, how authentic is the GP tippet tail?
>
> Lazarus
I found this.
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/features/oldflies/part199.html
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Sandy Birrell
October 16th, 2004, 01:00 PM
Lazarus Cooke wrote:
> Does anyone know where this fly is first recorded, and where it comes
> from?
>
> Veniard has versions of it in both volumes of the Fly Dresser's Guide,
> but Courtney Williams doesn't appear to mention it. It's often
> referred to as a British fly that became particularly popular in N.
> America.
>
> Also, how authentic is the GP tippet tail?
>
> Lazarus
I found this.
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/features/oldflies/part199.html
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Lazarus Cooke
October 16th, 2004, 07:30 PM
In article >, Sandy
Birrell > wrote:
> http://www.flyanglersonline.com/features/oldflies/part199.html
Many thanks for this, Sandy. I hadn't heard of Wilson before, but he
sounds a fascinating guy.
I notice that the British Library don't appear to have the Marbury
book. I'll have to try to persuade them to get it.
Do you know is the fly much used in Scotland these days?
Lazarus
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Lazarus Cooke
October 16th, 2004, 07:30 PM
In article >, Sandy
Birrell > wrote:
> http://www.flyanglersonline.com/features/oldflies/part199.html
Many thanks for this, Sandy. I hadn't heard of Wilson before, but he
sounds a fascinating guy.
I notice that the British Library don't appear to have the Marbury
book. I'll have to try to persuade them to get it.
Do you know is the fly much used in Scotland these days?
Lazarus
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Sandy Birrell
October 16th, 2004, 08:15 PM
Lazarus Cooke wrote:
> In article >, Sandy
> Birrell > wrote:
>
>> http://www.flyanglersonline.com/features/oldflies/part199.html
>
> Many thanks for this, Sandy. I hadn't heard of Wilson before, but he
> sounds a fascinating guy.
>
> I notice that the British Library don't appear to have the Marbury
> book. I'll have to try to persuade them to get it.
>
> Do you know is the fly much used in Scotland these days?
>
> Lazarus
Untill now I had never heard of the fly. The site above I Googled.
The book is on sale at Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1585743151/104-9261822-2872759?v=glance
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Sandy Birrell
October 16th, 2004, 08:15 PM
Lazarus Cooke wrote:
> In article >, Sandy
> Birrell > wrote:
>
>> http://www.flyanglersonline.com/features/oldflies/part199.html
>
> Many thanks for this, Sandy. I hadn't heard of Wilson before, but he
> sounds a fascinating guy.
>
> I notice that the British Library don't appear to have the Marbury
> book. I'll have to try to persuade them to get it.
>
> Do you know is the fly much used in Scotland these days?
>
> Lazarus
Untill now I had never heard of the fly. The site above I Googled.
The book is on sale at Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1585743151/104-9261822-2872759?v=glance
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Willi & Sue
October 17th, 2004, 01:07 AM
Sandy Birrell wrote:
>
> Untill now I had never heard of the fly. The site above I Googled.
I always thought it was a great name for a fly. I had heard of it but
never saw one. I always assumed it was one of the fancy and gaudy Brook
Trout patterns that were developed in the States.
Willi
Willi & Sue
October 17th, 2004, 01:07 AM
Sandy Birrell wrote:
>
> Untill now I had never heard of the fly. The site above I Googled.
I always thought it was a great name for a fly. I had heard of it but
never saw one. I always assumed it was one of the fancy and gaudy Brook
Trout patterns that were developed in the States.
Willi
Kiyu
October 20th, 2004, 01:12 AM
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 10:49:57 +0100, Lazarus Cooke
> wrote:
>Does anyone know where this fly is first recorded, and where it comes
>from?
Used to be a favorite in the States but don't know where it
originated.
I found it mentioned in some old Forest and Stream magazines from the
early 1900's a friend had (and was quite popular in the Marbury book
for my state) so about 15 years ago I tied up a few of them to try on
a small mountain stream as it was supposed to be a killer fly for
brook trout (and had a great name).
It came back to me quickly why I took over a season to catch my first
trout (on wet flies). I tried them wet, dry and on toast but couldn't
interest a single fish. Clearly a better angler than myself could
have made them work.
Should you ever fish them it'd be great to hear how you did.
Kiyu
Kiyu
October 20th, 2004, 01:12 AM
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 10:49:57 +0100, Lazarus Cooke
> wrote:
>Does anyone know where this fly is first recorded, and where it comes
>from?
Used to be a favorite in the States but don't know where it
originated.
I found it mentioned in some old Forest and Stream magazines from the
early 1900's a friend had (and was quite popular in the Marbury book
for my state) so about 15 years ago I tied up a few of them to try on
a small mountain stream as it was supposed to be a killer fly for
brook trout (and had a great name).
It came back to me quickly why I took over a season to catch my first
trout (on wet flies). I tried them wet, dry and on toast but couldn't
interest a single fish. Clearly a better angler than myself could
have made them work.
Should you ever fish them it'd be great to hear how you did.
Kiyu
Peter Charles
October 20th, 2004, 01:57 AM
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 10:49:57 +0100, Lazarus Cooke
> wrote:
>Does anyone know where this fly is first recorded, and where it comes
>from?
>
>Veniard has versions of it in both volumes of the Fly Dresser's Guide,
>but Courtney Williams doesn't appear to mention it. It's often referred
>to as a British fly that became particularly popular in N. America.
>
>Also, how authentic is the GP tippet tail?
>
>Lazarus
It's mentioned in "Forgotten Flies" and is shown with the GP tail.
The source mentions J. E. Leonard "Flies". 1950, 1982 p. 266
Peter
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Peter Charles
October 20th, 2004, 01:57 AM
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 10:49:57 +0100, Lazarus Cooke
> wrote:
>Does anyone know where this fly is first recorded, and where it comes
>from?
>
>Veniard has versions of it in both volumes of the Fly Dresser's Guide,
>but Courtney Williams doesn't appear to mention it. It's often referred
>to as a British fly that became particularly popular in N. America.
>
>Also, how authentic is the GP tippet tail?
>
>Lazarus
It's mentioned in "Forgotten Flies" and is shown with the GP tail.
The source mentions J. E. Leonard "Flies". 1950, 1982 p. 266
Peter
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