Hook size nomenclature

[david]

Tried to work this out but can't.

I understand that hooks are sized 0 to whatever and that a size1 hook is BIG
and a size 10 hook is teeny, but whats the alternative method wherein a
slah and a zero follows? e.g. 4/0.

Whats the trailing zero mean and why is it always a zero? I assume it isnt
ALWAYS a zero, but I have never seen anything other than a zero.

So, why two systems (1,2,3 etc and 1/0, 2/0, 3/0) and what do they mean?

David

[Viktor]

Maybe this helps:
hook sizes small to large
10, 5, 1, 1/0, 2/0 etc.

so 1 is BIG but 1/0 is BIGGER

"david" > wrote in message
...
> Tried to work this out but can't.
>
> I understand that hooks are sized 0 to whatever and that a size1 hook is
BIG
> and a size 10 hook is teeny, but whats the alternative method wherein a
> slah and a zero follows? e.g. 4/0.
>
> Whats the trailing zero mean and why is it always a zero? I assume it
isnt
> ALWAYS a zero, but I have never seen anything other than a zero.
>
> So, why two systems (1,2,3 etc and 1/0, 2/0, 3/0) and what do they mean?
>
> David
>
>

[Viktor]

Maybe this helps:
hook sizes small to large
10, 5, 1, 1/0, 2/0 etc.

so 1 is BIG but 1/0 is BIGGER

"david" > wrote in message
...
> Tried to work this out but can't.
>
> I understand that hooks are sized 0 to whatever and that a size1 hook is
BIG
> and a size 10 hook is teeny, but whats the alternative method wherein a
> slah and a zero follows? e.g. 4/0.
>
> Whats the trailing zero mean and why is it always a zero? I assume it
isnt
> ALWAYS a zero, but I have never seen anything other than a zero.
>
> So, why two systems (1,2,3 etc and 1/0, 2/0, 3/0) and what do they mean?
>
> David
>
>

[david]

Ah, thanks.

D
"Viktor" > wrote in message
...
> Maybe this helps:
> hook sizes small to large
> 10, 5, 1, 1/0, 2/0 etc.
>
> so 1 is BIG but 1/0 is BIGGER
>
> "david" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Tried to work this out but can't.
>>
>> I understand that hooks are sized 0 to whatever and that a size1 hook is
> BIG
>> and a size 10 hook is teeny, but whats the alternative method wherein a
>> slah and a zero follows? e.g. 4/0.
>>
>> Whats the trailing zero mean and why is it always a zero? I assume it
> isnt
>> ALWAYS a zero, but I have never seen anything other than a zero.
>>
>> So, why two systems (1,2,3 etc and 1/0, 2/0, 3/0) and what do they mean?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>
>

[david]

Ah, thanks.

D
"Viktor" > wrote in message
...
> Maybe this helps:
> hook sizes small to large
> 10, 5, 1, 1/0, 2/0 etc.
>
> so 1 is BIG but 1/0 is BIGGER
>
> "david" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Tried to work this out but can't.
>>
>> I understand that hooks are sized 0 to whatever and that a size1 hook is
> BIG
>> and a size 10 hook is teeny, but whats the alternative method wherein a
>> slah and a zero follows? e.g. 4/0.
>>
>> Whats the trailing zero mean and why is it always a zero? I assume it
> isnt
>> ALWAYS a zero, but I have never seen anything other than a zero.
>>
>> So, why two systems (1,2,3 etc and 1/0, 2/0, 3/0) and what do they mean?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>
>

[Derek.Moody]

In article >, Viktor
> wrote:
> Maybe this helps:
> hook sizes small to large
> 10, 5, 1, 1/0, 2/0 etc.

The first commercial hooks were made by needle manufacturers - the numbers
are derived from those of the size of needle that was bent to produce the
hook.

Needles don't generally go as big as the hooks neded for conger and shark
so a new numbering scale was added. I don't know what the 'O' stands for
but I always think of it as the letter 'O' for 'Oversize'.

Cheerio,

--
>>

[Derek.Moody]

In article >, Viktor
> wrote:
> Maybe this helps:
> hook sizes small to large
> 10, 5, 1, 1/0, 2/0 etc.

The first commercial hooks were made by needle manufacturers - the numbers
are derived from those of the size of needle that was bent to produce the
hook.

Needles don't generally go as big as the hooks neded for conger and shark
so a new numbering scale was added. I don't know what the 'O' stands for
but I always think of it as the letter 'O' for 'Oversize'.

Cheerio,

--
>>

[Chris Mitchell]

Typically X/0 sizes tend to be sal****er hooks and get bigger as X
increases, whereas X sizes tend to be freshwater and get smaller as X
increases.
"david" > wrote in message
...
> Tried to work this out but can't.
>
> I understand that hooks are sized 0 to whatever and that a size1 hook is
BIG
> and a size 10 hook is teeny, but whats the alternative method wherein a
> slah and a zero follows? e.g. 4/0.
>
> Whats the trailing zero mean and why is it always a zero? I assume it
isnt
> ALWAYS a zero, but I have never seen anything other than a zero.
>
> So, why two systems (1,2,3 etc and 1/0, 2/0, 3/0) and what do they mean?
>
> David
>
>

[Keith M]

David

Re yourquestion about hook sizes

My personnal theory for the /0 suffis is that having got hook sizes as large
as 1 on a decending scale, there was only one way to go in respect of larger
sizes and that was upwards again but now with aan indicator such as /0 ....
to indicate that the sizes were still increasing.

This idea obviously gainje popu;lae acceptance and has become an un-disputed
standard.

I am working on discovering who, where and when the system started.

Out of interest has anyone any evidence of firstly a hook size O
and
secondly of hooks with an uneven size number.


A very sad and fish deprived Keith






----- Original Message -----
From: Birgit Nyseth Kalløkkebakken
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:22 AM
Subject: VS: Hook Sizes


Dear Mr. Moxham,

Thank you for you e-mail. Regretfully there is no mathematical
relationship between the hook sizes. This varies from qualtity to quality.

The origin of the suffix "/0" is most likely Mustad, but we have had these
sizes for ages and no one can really tell if it's Mustad origin or another
origin. We started our hooks production in 1877 and a lot of other hook
manufacturers have copied both our reference numbers and sizing.

As for the odd sizes, we still have these for some qualities, but these
sizes have been deleted from several ranges the last years due to poor
sales. If you want to find out if a special quality has odd sizes, please
visit our web site www.mustad.no <http://www.mustad.no>


Best regards
O. Mustad & Son A.S.
Birgit N. Kallokkebakken


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Fra: Keith M ]
Sendt: 25. oktober 2004 22:52
Til:
Emne: Hook Sizes


Dear Sir

Please can you tell me the mathematical relationship between hook sizes eg
10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1 1/0, 2/0, 4/0 etc. and also the origin of the suffix " /
0" .

Apart from size are there any other ODD number hook sizes

Thanks

Keith Moxham

A very curious and sad angler

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"david" > wrote in message
...
> Tried to work this out but can't.
>
> I understand that hooks are sized 0 to whatever and that a size1 hook is
> BIG and a size 10 hook is teeny, but whats the alternative method wherein
> a slah and a zero follows? e.g. 4/0.
>
> Whats the trailing zero mean and why is it always a zero? I assume it
> isnt ALWAYS a zero, but I have never seen anything other than a zero.
>
> So, why two systems (1,2,3 etc and 1/0, 2/0, 3/0) and what do they mean?
>
> David
>

[Keith M]

David

Re yourquestion about hook sizes

My personnal theory for the /0 suffis is that having got hook sizes as large
as 1 on a decending scale, there was only one way to go in respect of larger
sizes and that was upwards again but now with aan indicator such as /0 ....
to indicate that the sizes were still increasing.

This idea obviously gainje popu;lae acceptance and has become an un-disputed
standard.

I am working on discovering who, where and when the system started.

Out of interest has anyone any evidence of firstly a hook size O
and
secondly of hooks with an uneven size number.


A very sad and fish deprived Keith






----- Original Message -----
From: Birgit Nyseth Kalløkkebakken
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:22 AM
Subject: VS: Hook Sizes


Dear Mr. Moxham,

Thank you for you e-mail. Regretfully there is no mathematical
relationship between the hook sizes. This varies from qualtity to quality.

The origin of the suffix "/0" is most likely Mustad, but we have had these
sizes for ages and no one can really tell if it's Mustad origin or another
origin. We started our hooks production in 1877 and a lot of other hook
manufacturers have copied both our reference numbers and sizing.

As for the odd sizes, we still have these for some qualities, but these
sizes have been deleted from several ranges the last years due to poor
sales. If you want to find out if a special quality has odd sizes, please
visit our web site www.mustad.no <http://www.mustad.no>


Best regards
O. Mustad & Son A.S.
Birgit N. Kallokkebakken


-----Opprinnelig melding-----
Fra: Keith M ]
Sendt: 25. oktober 2004 22:52
Til:
Emne: Hook Sizes


Dear Sir

Please can you tell me the mathematical relationship between hook sizes eg
10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1 1/0, 2/0, 4/0 etc. and also the origin of the suffix " /
0" .

Apart from size are there any other ODD number hook sizes

Thanks

Keith Moxham

A very curious and sad angler

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"david" > wrote in message
...
> Tried to work this out but can't.
>
> I understand that hooks are sized 0 to whatever and that a size1 hook is
> BIG and a size 10 hook is teeny, but whats the alternative method wherein
> a slah and a zero follows? e.g. 4/0.
>
> Whats the trailing zero mean and why is it always a zero? I assume it
> isnt ALWAYS a zero, but I have never seen anything other than a zero.
>
> So, why two systems (1,2,3 etc and 1/0, 2/0, 3/0) and what do they mean?
>
> David
>