trotlines and jugs unsportsmanlike

[RGarri7470]

I was cleaning up some old email files and came across this from last May after
I posted and article about jug and trotline fishing.I got a laugh out of it
back then and forgot it. Sounds like an animal rights nut, or just a nut. What
do you think? Where are trotlines and jugs outlawed? I am betting some
northern state.


"Using trot lines and jugs isn't fishing...it isn't a
sport, it is unsportsmanlike harvesting of
resources. It is just about the same as killing
cattle in a stockyard. Where I come from, such
fishing is illegal, and well it should be. If I
have any opportunity to lobby for outlawing such
tactics in Georgia, count on it that I will do so."

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

[Rodney]

RGarri7470 wrote:

> I was cleaning up some old email files and came across this from last May after
> I posted and article about jug and trotline fishing.I got a laugh out of it
> back then and forgot it. Sounds like an animal rights nut, or just a nut. What
> do you think? Where are trotlines and jugs outlawed? I am betting some
> northern state.
>
>
> "Using trot lines and jugs isn't fishing...it isn't a
> sport, it is unsportsmanlike harvesting of
> resources. It is just about the same as killing
> cattle in a stockyard. Where I come from, such
> fishing is illegal, and well it should be. If I
> have any opportunity to lobby for outlawing such
> tactics in Georgia, count on it that I will do so."


Ronnie, I don't know why they think all fishing must be sport,, heck
most of the fish eaten in the world is not caught by sportsmen but by
commercial fishermen

I enjoy trot lining and jug fishing, I do it not for sport (as I only
release non catfish) I do it when I want to catch a lot of cat fish for
a special feed I'm involved with. I do enjoy the heck out of it, so it's
FUN,, and what separates fun, from "sport", in fishing ?

Of course no adays I guess I could call it a sport because I am peddling
my Hobbie Out BAck Fisherman chasing jugs with fish on them,, I'm
getting a lot of exercise out of it :-)


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and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

[Bob La Londe]

Trot lines and jug lines are not legal in Arizona. Well technically you
could have two jug lines with not more than two hooks, and to remain legal
you must remain in close proximity to your lines. I suppose the same could
be said of trotlines.

The traditional throw out your trot lines and and jug lines to be checked
the next day is not legal.

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"RGarri7470" > wrote in message
...
> I was cleaning up some old email files and came across this from last May
after
> I posted and article about jug and trotline fishing.I got a laugh out of
it
> back then and forgot it. Sounds like an animal rights nut, or just a nut.
What
> do you think? Where are trotlines and jugs outlawed? I am betting some
> northern state.
>
>
> "Using trot lines and jugs isn't fishing...it isn't a
> sport, it is unsportsmanlike harvesting of
> resources. It is just about the same as killing
> cattle in a stockyard. Where I come from, such
> fishing is illegal, and well it should be. If I
> have any opportunity to lobby for outlawing such
> tactics in Georgia, count on it that I will do so."
>
> Ronnie
>
> http://fishing.about.com

[Z Z]

trotlines & jug fishing, nature maybe some family's only meal. thank god
you & i don't have to.
zz

[Z Z]

trotlines & jug fishing, nature maybe some family's only meal. thank god
you & i don't have to.
zz

[Jeremy Williams]

I have to agree with Rodney. Fishing does not necessarily mean "Sport
Fishing". Jug and Trotline fishing is about CATCHING FISH! I guess that
guy must be a fly fisherman.
Now don't anybody ream me for that. I suppose fly fishing has it's
place....somewhere. Maybe it's alot of fun for some people, although I
never have understood what the attraction is...just not my thing. But
you're sure not ever going to fill a freezer for the winter by casting
flies!
That brings me to what I DO understand...CATCH and EAT!! I've cast my share
of lures, and tried every kind of bait, live or otherwise, and I've even
been known to throw back a whole days catch. (Bass and other crap fish, but
not any eating size catfish. God forbid! Not ever!) But to my knowledge
there's hardly anything as much fun as running a line of jugs, right around
the twilight hour, the rising moonlight glistening off the water, and a very
gentle breeze blowing. When all of a sudden one of the jugs does a little
zig-zag dance, and then POOP! goes under for a split second before bobbing
back up and then making a hell-bent charge. Then POOP! POOP!, two more
jugs are dancing, and all hell breaks loose! Either that or running a
trotline in the early morning hours, just after the sun comes up, a brisk
chill in the air, your hand sliding down that line. And the a tug-tug-TUG!
You know you've got something on, maybe something big. When a few moments
latter you see a flash under the water, and the huge body of a whisker-fish
the size of your leg swirls, and heads for the bottom.
Yep, nothing I know can beat it, except maybe a plate full of steaming,
fried catfish fillets on a long, cold, winter's evening. The sweet taste of
a bite of 'Ol Mr. Whiskers that reminds you of that one, beautiful morning
way back when it was quite a bit warmer outside, and your boat's cover
hadn't been used in weeks.
Hey, maybe it's just me. They say those northern boys are starting to catch
on. That's the rumor, anyway. I don't guess I'll ever know when they start
serving fried catfish in some fancy, New York restaurant. I'll be out on
the water, way down here in the Dirty South, baiting my line, and filling my
freezer, looking forward to that next, big bite.

-Old Fartcutter

"RGarri7470" > wrote in message
...
> I was cleaning up some old email files and came across this from last May
after
> I posted and article about jug and trotline fishing.I got a laugh out of
it
> back then and forgot it. Sounds like an animal rights nut, or just a nut.
What
> do you think? Where are trotlines and jugs outlawed? I am betting some
> northern state.
>
>
> "Using trot lines and jugs isn't fishing...it isn't a
> sport, it is unsportsmanlike harvesting of
> resources. It is just about the same as killing
> cattle in a stockyard. Where I come from, such
> fishing is illegal, and well it should be. If I
> have any opportunity to lobby for outlawing such
> tactics in Georgia, count on it that I will do so."
>
> Ronnie
>
> http://fishing.about.com

[Rodney]

Jeremy Williams wrote:
> I have to agree with Rodney. Fishing does not necessarily mean "Sport
> Fishing". Jug and Trotline fishing is about CATCHING FISH!

There is nothing wrong with just catching "fresh" fish to eat, jugging
and trotlining, is fun, and anything that is fun can be a sport.
remember we are not actually "catching" sport fish we are catching
comerical fish, they are no limits on them, at least not in my state
(which means there is an over aboundace of them)

Those guys that are all catch and release "sport fishing" are missing
the best part, "eating them"

I know no one who C&R when trot linning or jugging, unless they are too
small, or they think they are too big, so it is not done for just the
sport of it, it's done for harvesting fish, just like people who hunt,
harvest deer, they may claim they do it for the sport, I hate those who
do it and don't eat them, as you can't C&R a "dead" deer

I had fried catfish tonight for supper, I will eat cat fish sandwiches
tomorrow , and the next three days for lunch, just from the left overs
of one side fillet (I caught that bad boy on a rod though :-) It would
not have taste different caught on a jug, and hand lining that jug with
a cat that size is really a sport
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

[jim]

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:35:19 -0600, Rodney > wrote:

>Jeremy Williams wrote:
>> I have to agree with Rodney. Fishing does not necessarily mean "Sport
>> Fishing". Jug and Trotline fishing is about CATCHING FISH!
>
>There is nothing wrong with just catching "fresh" fish to eat, jugging
>and trotlining, is fun, and anything that is fun can be a sport.
>remember we are not actually "catching" sport fish we are catching
>comerical fish, they are no limits on them, at least not in my state
>(which means there is an over aboundace of them)
>
>Those guys that are all catch and release "sport fishing" are missing
>the best part, "eating them"
>
>I know no one who C&R when trot linning or jugging, unless they are too
>small,

The ones too small are bait. Cut bait of fish.

or they think they are too big, so it is not done for just the
>sport of it, it's done for harvesting fish, just like people who hunt,
>harvest deer, they may claim they do it for the sport, I hate those who
>do it and don't eat them, as you can't C&R a "dead" deer
>
>I had fried catfish tonight for supper, I will eat cat fish sandwiches
>tomorrow , and the next three days for lunch, just from the left overs
>of one side fillet (I caught that bad boy on a rod though :-) It would
>not have taste different caught on a jug, and hand lining that jug with
>a cat that size is really a sport

[Ronnie Garrison]

Yea - my response was something like "if you hate it so much, why did
you move from a state where it was illegal to one where it is legal.
Typical damn yankee, moves south to live and tries to change everything
so it will be just like it was where they ran away from.

Hope you agree with me, too!

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

Jeremy Williams wrote:
> I have to agree with Rodney. Fishing does not necessarily mean "Sport
> Fishing". Jug and Trotline fishing is about CATCHING FISH! I guess that
> guy must be a fly fisherman.
> Now don't anybody ream me for that. I suppose fly fishing has it's
> place....somewhere. Maybe it's alot of fun for some people, although I
> never have understood what the attraction is...just not my thing. But
> you're sure not ever going to fill a freezer for the winter by casting
> flies!
> That brings me to what I DO understand...CATCH and EAT!! I've cast my share
> of lures, and tried every kind of bait, live or otherwise, and I've even
> been known to throw back a whole days catch. (Bass and other crap fish, but
> not any eating size catfish. God forbid! Not ever!) But to my knowledge
> there's hardly anything as much fun as running a line of jugs, right around
> the twilight hour, the rising moonlight glistening off the water, and a very
> gentle breeze blowing. When all of a sudden one of the jugs does a little
> zig-zag dance, and then POOP! goes under for a split second before bobbing
> back up and then making a hell-bent charge. Then POOP! POOP!, two more
> jugs are dancing, and all hell breaks loose! Either that or running a
> trotline in the early morning hours, just after the sun comes up, a brisk
> chill in the air, your hand sliding down that line. And the a tug-tug-TUG!
> You know you've got something on, maybe something big. When a few moments
> latter you see a flash under the water, and the huge body of a whisker-fish
> the size of your leg swirls, and heads for the bottom.
> Yep, nothing I know can beat it, except maybe a plate full of steaming,
> fried catfish fillets on a long, cold, winter's evening. The sweet taste of
> a bite of 'Ol Mr. Whiskers that reminds you of that one, beautiful morning
> way back when it was quite a bit warmer outside, and your boat's cover
> hadn't been used in weeks.
> Hey, maybe it's just me. They say those northern boys are starting to catch
> on. That's the rumor, anyway. I don't guess I'll ever know when they start
> serving fried catfish in some fancy, New York restaurant. I'll be out on
> the water, way down here in the Dirty South, baiting my line, and filling my
> freezer, looking forward to that next, big bite.
>
> -Old Fartcutter
>
> "RGarri7470" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I was cleaning up some old email files and came across this from last May
>
> after
>
>>I posted and article about jug and trotline fishing.I got a laugh out of
>
> it
>
>>back then and forgot it. Sounds like an animal rights nut, or just a nut.
>
> What
>
>>do you think? Where are trotlines and jugs outlawed? I am betting some
>>northern state.
>>
>>
>>"Using trot lines and jugs isn't fishing...it isn't a
>>sport, it is unsportsmanlike harvesting of
>>resources. It is just about the same as killing
>>cattle in a stockyard. Where I come from, such
>>fishing is illegal, and well it should be. If I
>>have any opportunity to lobby for outlawing such
>>tactics in Georgia, count on it that I will do so."
>>
>>Ronnie

>>http://fishing.about.com
>
>
>

[Jeremy Williams]

"Rodney" > wrote in message ...

> There is nothing wrong with just catching "fresh" fish to eat....
> remember we are not actually "catching" sport fish we are catching
> comerical fish, they are no limits on them, at least not in my state

Here in Arkansas, as well as Texas and Oklahoma, catfish are considered
"sportfish", at least as far as having limits enforced. Except for bullhead
catfish, for which I think there are no limits. It's slowly catching on
everywhere that catfish do have sporting value. The bait and tackle
manufacturers think so, anyway.

> I know no one who C&R when trot linning or jugging, unless they are too
> small, or they think they are too big...

I also release if they are too small...just not worth the hassle of cleaning
a little one when you've got 10-15 other nice fish in the boat. I always
try to handle them gently, take a moment to appreciate it's beauty, say a
little, thankful prayer for being allowed to share in natures bounty, and
ease him back in the water saying; "Alright now, go back and grow a
little....and while you're down there send your granpa up to see me."
Nowdays I think the concerns over mercury levels are pretty much universal.
If I catch anything over 10-12lbs. I whoop and holler for a minute or two,
always congradulate my fishing parter, and take a couple quick pictures
before turning them back. I don't think it's worth the risk to eat the big
ones, plus it puts them back in the gene pool, and maybe gives me, or
someone else the thrill of catching "Big Whiskers" again another day. Does
anybody know if, or about how much, a larger catfish of say 25lbs produces
more eggs than a smaller fish of say 3-5lbs?

> harvest deer, they may claim they do it for the sport, I hate those who
> do it and don't eat them, as you can't C&R a "dead" deer

WHOA NOW!! You're opening up a whole new can of worms here! No pun
intended. I don't even want to get started on that one. DOAH! Too late.
I have to agree with you again. I just can't wrap my mind around shooting a
deer just for sport. Yea, it is a heck of a thrill to match wits with a
deer in it's own environment. I can't say that I've ever known anyone whose
hand didn't shake a little, and their heart race when a deer appears out of
the bush. But why shoot it if you're not going to eat it?
If you want to challenge yourself, to experience the thrill of the hunt, but
you don't intend to eat the animal, why not just take a camera. Seems like
the same thing to me, maybe even harder: getting up early, putting on the
camo, checking your gear, going out to your spot, getting set up for the
stand, or for the stalk. But when it comes time for business, if you're
lucky enough to have Old Mossy Horns step out, try pulling up your camera
and setting up the shot. He's not going to stand there and say cheese.
He's still just as alert as ever, and shooting him with the camera isn't
exactly the same as putting the crosshairs on his tickle-spot and squeezing
the trigger. Plus, you may get multiple opportunities to shoot the same
deer, and when the shooting is done he/she gets to walk away, but you still
have a trophy to take home.
Ah, but I digress. I guess there's always different ways to look at
something. Different strokes for different folks, and who is to say which
is right? I think the bottom line here is about respect; respect for the
animal, the fish, and for yourself. Do not needlessly waist a life. If
you're going to fish for food, then fish until you have enough, and then
stop. Know when enough is enough. Then everything after that is for fun,
for the sport. It's the same with the deer, or with anything else. Kill a
deer for your food if you will, and give respect to the animal for what it's
life has given to you and your family. When you've got enough meat in the
freezer, stop, or at least for goodness sake give it to someone else who
needs it. Sport hunters alike. Don't let it go to waist. There are lots
of programs out there that will be gratefull for your donation of meat from
the hunt to feed the hungry. Be excellent to yourself, your fellows, and to
the fish and game that give us enjoyment, and nourishment.

[Jeremy Williams]

Bullhead catfish make some of the best bait for Flatheads, bar none.

"jim" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:35:19 -0600, Rodney > wrote:
>
> >Jeremy Williams wrote:
> >> I have to agree with Rodney. Fishing does not necessarily mean "Sport
> >> Fishing". Jug and Trotline fishing is about CATCHING FISH!
> >
> >There is nothing wrong with just catching "fresh" fish to eat, jugging
> >and trotlining, is fun, and anything that is fun can be a sport.
> >remember we are not actually "catching" sport fish we are catching
> >comerical fish, they are no limits on them, at least not in my state
> >(which means there is an over aboundace of them)
> >
> >Those guys that are all catch and release "sport fishing" are missing
> >the best part, "eating them"
> >
> >I know no one who C&R when trot linning or jugging, unless they are too
> >small,
>
> The ones too small are bait. Cut bait of fish.
>
> or they think they are too big, so it is not done for just the
> >sport of it, it's done for harvesting fish, just like people who hunt,
> >harvest deer, they may claim they do it for the sport, I hate those who
> >do it and don't eat them, as you can't C&R a "dead" deer
> >
> >I had fried catfish tonight for supper, I will eat cat fish sandwiches
> >tomorrow , and the next three days for lunch, just from the left overs
> >of one side fillet (I caught that bad boy on a rod though :-) It would
> >not have taste different caught on a jug, and hand lining that jug with
> >a cat that size is really a sport
>

[Milo Milo]

i agree jug n trotlines are way of old our grandpaws and dads did this
to harvest fish for eating sure ya may t think its not a sport but look
at it this way by jug n trotline fishing iam eating fish and your buying
fish from the grocery store at an outrageous price i grew up fishing and
hunting for food we wasnt poor but wasnt rich either and with 5 kids in
the family dad needed all the help that mother nature could give if it
was leagle size it came home i have ate many blue gil bass small ad
largemouh just about every fresh water fish that we could catch and yes
a good ole hog or white sucker is very good to make fish patties out of
and i guess the people that think jug n trotline fishing isnt a sport
have never tried it alot of fun and some unforgetable experinces
sometimes we would catch a mud turtle and you got it he came to the
house too great eating so in closing dont knock it till ya try it
marlon from NC

[Milo Milo]

ya no what ****es me off is the waythe pro bass fisherman fsh on tv its
a joke to me they hook a fish and instead of fighting the fish as your
avid angler would the use the big line and high pole them to the bout
i think its so funny they catch a bass maybe a pound and the magic of
tv makes it an automatic 3 pounder come on ppl wake up n smell the
roses fishing shows are all about ADVERTISMENT iam like the guys
that wanna catch fish n eat them leagle size ad next thing ya no is the
sizzle of a frying pan

[Milo Milo]

you got that right nothing wrong with a yankee but a heluva lot wrong
with a dam yankee stay where ya came from n leave us southern guys alone
we dont come to your area and try and change stuff do we !!!!!!!!!!
maybe if us southern country guys went up north and showed them yankees
how to fish thy would stay home !!!!!!

[mathewwjohn]

Here in Arkansas, as able-bodied as Texas and Oklahoma, catfish are considered "sportfish", at atomic as far as accepting banned enforced. Except for bullhead catfish, for which I anticipate there are no limits. It's boring communicable on everywhere that catfish do accept antic value.