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Padishar Creel
January 30th, 2005, 08:18 AM
Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river 4'-9'
use?

I have my books, but I suspect there is a 'special' guide pattern out there
that is a killer color, material, or colored bead or something spectacular?

Thanks in advance, Chris

George Cleveland
January 30th, 2005, 01:04 PM
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:18:57 -0800, "Padishar Creel"
> wrote:

>Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river 4'-9'
>use?
>
>I have my books, but I suspect there is a 'special' guide pattern out there
>that is a killer color, material, or colored bead or something spectacular?
>
>Thanks in advance, Chris
>
No secret here. Olive or gray Hare's Ear Plus (Antron/Hare's Ear)
wrapped over a #12-#16 scud or wet fly hook. A few wraps of lead wire
for weight under that and a shellback of poly bag material ribbed with
either extra fine copper wire or brown tying thread pulled over the
top. I also tie a pink version with ribbing of flourescent pink tying
thread. I use a piece of velcro to fuzz up the body.

Pretty standard pattern, I'm afraid.

g.c.

George Cleveland
January 30th, 2005, 01:04 PM
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:18:57 -0800, "Padishar Creel"
> wrote:

>Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river 4'-9'
>use?
>
>I have my books, but I suspect there is a 'special' guide pattern out there
>that is a killer color, material, or colored bead or something spectacular?
>
>Thanks in advance, Chris
>
No secret here. Olive or gray Hare's Ear Plus (Antron/Hare's Ear)
wrapped over a #12-#16 scud or wet fly hook. A few wraps of lead wire
for weight under that and a shellback of poly bag material ribbed with
either extra fine copper wire or brown tying thread pulled over the
top. I also tie a pink version with ribbing of flourescent pink tying
thread. I use a piece of velcro to fuzz up the body.

Pretty standard pattern, I'm afraid.

g.c.

Guy Thornberg
January 30th, 2005, 02:45 PM
Best producing scud on the Northfork & White Rivers is the same pattern
George mentions below, but a little to the gray and without the shellback -
no sparkle. Trim fur on top kind of close and leave the bottom the length of
the gape. Ugly is Good.
Guy

"George Cleveland" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:18:57 -0800, "Padishar Creel"
> > wrote:
>
> >Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river
4'-9'
> >use?
> >
> >I have my books, but I suspect there is a 'special' guide pattern out
there
> >that is a killer color, material, or colored bead or something
spectacular?
> >
> >Thanks in advance, Chris
> >
> No secret here. Olive or gray Hare's Ear Plus (Antron/Hare's Ear)
> wrapped over a #12-#16 scud or wet fly hook. A few wraps of lead wire
> for weight under that and a shellback of poly bag material ribbed with
> either extra fine copper wire or brown tying thread pulled over the
> top. I also tie a pink version with ribbing of flourescent pink tying
> thread. I use a piece of velcro to fuzz up the body.
>
> Pretty standard pattern, I'm afraid.
>
> g.c.

Wayne Knight
January 30th, 2005, 03:17 PM
"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
...
> Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river
> 4'-9'
> use?
>

I don't have a *favorite*, only tie and use one generic pattern. However one
of the most recent fly rod and reel issues, or maybe it was fly fisherman,
had a rather good article on scuds and scud imitation. If you can't find a
copy, email me a fax number and I'll get you a copy.

Wayne Knight
January 30th, 2005, 03:17 PM
"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
...
> Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river
> 4'-9'
> use?
>

I don't have a *favorite*, only tie and use one generic pattern. However one
of the most recent fly rod and reel issues, or maybe it was fly fisherman,
had a rather good article on scuds and scud imitation. If you can't find a
copy, email me a fax number and I'll get you a copy.

Tim Lysyk
January 30th, 2005, 03:36 PM
Padishar Creel wrote:
> Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river 4'-9'
> use?
>
> I have my books, but I suspect there is a 'special' guide pattern out there
> that is a killer color, material, or colored bead or something spectacular?
>
> Thanks in advance, Chris
>
>
Here's a recipe for you. Even has a picture.

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/cnangler/html/flyvid.htm#flyhcs

but I tend to use scuds mostly in lakes.

Tim Lysyk

Tim Lysyk
January 30th, 2005, 03:36 PM
Padishar Creel wrote:
> Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river 4'-9'
> use?
>
> I have my books, but I suspect there is a 'special' guide pattern out there
> that is a killer color, material, or colored bead or something spectacular?
>
> Thanks in advance, Chris
>
>
Here's a recipe for you. Even has a picture.

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/cnangler/html/flyvid.htm#flyhcs

but I tend to use scuds mostly in lakes.

Tim Lysyk

Padishar Creel
January 30th, 2005, 05:42 PM
"Guy Thornberg" > wrote in message
...
> Best producing scud on the Northfork & White Rivers is the same pattern
> George mentions below, but a little to the gray and without the
shellback -
> no sparkle. Trim fur on top kind of close and leave the bottom the length
of
> the gape. Ugly is Good.
> Guy
-------------
Guy, I can tie Ugly better than most! Most of my fllies are damn ugly...

chris

Guy Thornberg
January 30th, 2005, 06:28 PM
Oops Chris,
I said Padishar in the "Ugly Fly" post.
Sorry.
Sounds like our tying styles are related. That's ugly.
Ugly is good.
Guy

"Padishar Creel" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Guy Thornberg" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Best producing scud on the Northfork & White Rivers is the same pattern
> > George mentions below, but a little to the gray and without the
> shellback -
> > no sparkle. Trim fur on top kind of close and leave the bottom the
length
> of
> > the gape. Ugly is Good.
> > Guy
> -------------
> Guy, I can tie Ugly better than most! Most of my fllies are damn ugly...
>
> chris
>
>

Mu Young Lee
January 31st, 2005, 07:59 AM
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Padishar Creel wrote:

> Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river 4'-9'
> use?

I haven't fished enough scuds to know but my favorite is the Oliver
Edwards' version found in his book Fly Tyers Master Class.

Mu

Scott Seidman
January 31st, 2005, 01:24 PM
"Padishar Creel" > wrote in
:

> Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river
> 4'-9' use?
>
> I have my books, but I suspect there is a 'special' guide pattern out
> there that is a killer color, material, or colored bead or something
> spectacular?
>
> Thanks in advance, Chris
>
>

Caledonia scud. Search at www.theflybench.org

Scott

Padishar Creel
January 31st, 2005, 04:26 PM
"Scott Seidman" > wrote in message
. 1.4...
> Caledonia scud. Search at www.theflybench.org
--------
Thanks Scott for the hint. Actually its www.theflybench.com and your fly,
which I love by the way is

http://tinyurl.com/6dwtl

Chris

asadi
January 31st, 2005, 06:49 PM
Hey Mu,

if you wouldn't mind....e-mail me

remove invalid....

john
"Mu Young Lee" > wrote in message
cc.itd.umich.edu...
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Padishar Creel wrote:
>
> > Mind sharing your favorite scud pattern for slow moving shallow river
4'-9'
> > use?
>
> I haven't fished enough scuds to know but my favorite is the Oliver
> Edwards' version found in his book Fly Tyers Master Class.
>
> Mu