James Gluckert(aka Jeff Gannon)

[David Snedeker]

They can run but they can't hide. Yep, turns out the President's planted
friendly "reporter" is actually a hooker. Here is a blog that has the
President's Hooker cum Reporter's ads for his "services." He advertises as
a "top" with a military flair.
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/02/man-called-jeff.html

Things getting sticky in the Whitehouse. Questions are coming up like . . .
who in the Whitehouse helped "Gannon" get easy Westwing access for app. 2
years even though he was using a phony name etc.? A well placed
lover/customer perhaps?

Have to say though that I am not surprised at all. Maybe before this is
over some of the same names from the Regan/Bush administration linked to the
"Franklin" child sex scandal of the late 1980s will pop up. That one was a
beauty and involved figures from the "moral majority," a Nebraska bank and a
whole ****load of Texas money used to surpress the story, buy up video and
intimidate people.

On another note. . . my top administration candidate as a foreign agent, and
for involvement in the Valerie F. national security affair has . . . quietly
resigned from his DOD job. Lets see if he leaves the country. They still
can shoot traitors can't they?

Dave

[[email protected]]

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:56:13 -0800, "David Snedeker" >
wrote:
>They still can shoot traitors can't they?

Are you offering to commit seppuku beforehand, trying to horn in on the firing
squad, or both?

[rw]

David Snedeker wrote:
>
> Notice you commented on the treason para, and said zip about the outting of
> the President's "friendly reporter" funded and paid for by you Tex-Oki
> right-wing clowns. Turns out your side hired a prostitute, and got him a day
> pass into the Whitehouse for close to 2 years. Considering Gluckert's
> specialty is sexual masochism with a military theme, why is no one in the
> Whitehouse fessing up yet to getting him the pass. :-)

The real story here isn't that Guckert/Gannon (it's "Guckert", Dave) is
a gay prostitute. That just makes it extremely funny and illustrative of
the wingnut hypocrisy over "family values." Of course, the fact that
Gannon/Guckert was a gay prostitute does prove that he was given
preferential treatment by the White House, because even a cursory
background check by the FBI or the Secret Service would have revealed
that fact.

The real story is how the administration is deliberately trying to
subvert the integrity of the legitimate press, as in the Armstrong
Williams scandal. An approximately equally significant issue is the
double standard applied to right wingers vs. liberals by the mainstream
media when it come to scandals.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[David Snedeker]

> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:56:13 -0800, "David Snedeker"
>
> wrote:
> >They still can shoot traitors can't they?
>
> Are you offering to commit seppuku beforehand, trying to horn in on the
firing
> squad, or both?


Notice you commented on the treason para, and said zip about the outting of
the President's "friendly reporter" funded and paid for by you Tex-Oki
right-wing clowns. Turns out your side hired a prostitute, and got him a day
pass into the Whitehouse for close to 2 years. Considering Gluckert's
specialty is sexual masochism with a military theme, why is no one in the
Whitehouse fessing up yet to getting him the pass. :-)

Kinda leads to the question of just which high level Whitehouse staffer
likes to get smacked around by a gay prostitute in a USMC hat? You think it
was Mad Karl? It would be right in that long closeted Republican tradition
of Roy Cohn, Hoover, and many other prominent Wingnut pervs.

Come on Richard, your side ****ed up . . . hiring a gay prostitute to ask
the President easy questions is not a good thing. To say the least.

On the treason thingy . . . we will see, we will see.

Dave
Anyone who has the stomach for it can see the ads for Gluckert's "service"
at the site below. This is the prostitute these right-wing clowns placed in
the Whitehouse. Some patriots.
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/02/man-called-jeff.html

[B J Conner]

"rw" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> David Snedeker wrote:
> >
> > Notice you commented on the treason para, and said zip about the outting
of
> > the President's "friendly reporter" funded and paid for by you Tex-Oki
> > right-wing clowns. Turns out your side hired a prostitute, and got him a
day
> > pass into the Whitehouse for close to 2 years. Considering Gluckert's
> > specialty is sexual masochism with a military theme, why is no one in
the
> > Whitehouse fessing up yet to getting him the pass. :-)
>
> The real story here isn't that Guckert/Gannon (it's "Guckert", Dave) is
> a gay prostitute. That just makes it extremely funny and illustrative of
> the wingnut hypocrisy over "family values." Of course, the fact that
> Gannon/Guckert was a gay prostitute does prove that he was given
> preferential treatment by the White House, because even a cursory
> background check by the FBI or the Secret Service would have revealed
> that fact.
>
> The real story is how the administration is deliberately trying to
> subvert the integrity of the legitimate press, as in the Armstrong
> Williams scandal. An approximately equally significant issue is the
> double standard applied to right wingers vs. liberals by the mainstream
> media when it come to scandals.
>
> --
> Cut "to the chase" for my email address.
Godwins law should be temporarly set aside when discussing Bush and his gang
of theives. The parallels are to scary.

[[email protected]]

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:51:08 -0800, "David Snedeker" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
...
>> On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:56:13 -0800, "David Snedeker"
>
>> wrote:
>> >They still can shoot traitors can't they?
>>
>> Are you offering to commit seppuku beforehand, trying to horn in on the
>firing
>> squad, or both?
>
>
>Notice you commented on the treason para, and said zip about the outting of
>the President's "friendly reporter" funded and paid for by you Tex-Oki
>right-wing clowns. Turns out your side hired a prostitute, and got him a day
>pass into the Whitehouse for close to 2 years. Considering Gluckert's
>specialty is sexual masochism with a military theme, why is no one in the
>Whitehouse fessing up yet to getting him the pass. :-)
>
>Kinda leads to the question of just which high level Whitehouse staffer
>likes to get smacked around by a gay prostitute in a USMC hat?

Ah, OK, Shemp...you're jealous...now, all we have to do is wait for Larry and
Curly...

[[email protected]]

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:50:49 GMT, rw > wrote:

>David Snedeker wrote:
>>
>> Notice you commented on the treason para, and said zip about the outting of
>> the President's "friendly reporter" funded and paid for by you Tex-Oki
>> right-wing clowns. Turns out your side hired a prostitute, and got him a day
>> pass into the Whitehouse for close to 2 years. Considering Gluckert's
>> specialty is sexual masochism with a military theme, why is no one in the
>> Whitehouse fessing up yet to getting him the pass. :-)
>
>The real story here isn't that Guckert/Gannon (it's "Guckert", Dave) is
>a gay prostitute. That just makes it extremely funny and illustrative of
>the wingnut hypocrisy over "family values." Of course, the fact that
>Gannon/Guckert was a gay prostitute does prove that he was given
>preferential treatment by the White House, because even a cursory
>background check by the FBI or the Secret Service would have revealed
>that fact.
>
>The real story is how the administration is deliberately trying to
>subvert the integrity of the legitimate press, as in the Armstrong
>Williams scandal. An approximately equally significant issue is the
>double standard applied to right wingers vs. liberals by the mainstream
>media when it come to scandals.

And now, we await Curly....

[[email protected]]

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:31:10 GMT, "B J Conner" > wrote:

>
>"rw" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>> David Snedeker wrote:
>> >
>> > Notice you commented on the treason para, and said zip about the outting
>of
>> > the President's "friendly reporter" funded and paid for by you Tex-Oki
>> > right-wing clowns. Turns out your side hired a prostitute, and got him a
>day
>> > pass into the Whitehouse for close to 2 years. Considering Gluckert's
>> > specialty is sexual masochism with a military theme, why is no one in
>the
>> > Whitehouse fessing up yet to getting him the pass. :-)
>>
>> The real story here isn't that Guckert/Gannon (it's "Guckert", Dave) is
>> a gay prostitute. That just makes it extremely funny and illustrative of
>> the wingnut hypocrisy over "family values." Of course, the fact that
>> Gannon/Guckert was a gay prostitute does prove that he was given
>> preferential treatment by the White House, because even a cursory
>> background check by the FBI or the Secret Service would have revealed
>> that fact.
>>
>> The real story is how the administration is deliberately trying to
>> subvert the integrity of the legitimate press, as in the Armstrong
>> Williams scandal. An approximately equally significant issue is the
>> double standard applied to right wingers vs. liberals by the mainstream
>> media when it come to scandals.
>>
>> --
>> Cut "to the chase" for my email address.
>Godwins law should be temporarly set aside when discussing Bush and his gang
>of theives. The parallels are to scary.

And now that Curly's here, we're back to "jellous"...but fair is fair - theives
are just to, to scary...yep, of the damned, by the damned, and for the damned...

[rw]

wrote:
>
> And now, we await Curly....
>

C'mon now, rdean. We get to gloat when the wingers **** up so bad.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[[email protected]]

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:20:55 GMT, rw > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> And now, we await Curly....
>>
>
>C'mon now, rdean. We get to gloat when the wingers **** up so bad.

....paging Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard....

Oh, hey, you can stick intricately-carved radish roses up your nose when you
read that Hilary farted for all I care, and you'll probably be taken as
seriously as you are when you feign objectivity, yet ignore it when the OTHER
wingers **** up so bad...

HTH,
rdean
....who was never here...

[rw]

wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:20:55 GMT, rw > wrote:
>
>
wrote:
>>
>>>And now, we await Curly....
>>>
>>
>>C'mon now, rdean. We get to gloat when the wingers **** up so bad.
>
>
> ...paging Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard....
>
> Oh, hey, you can stick intricately-carved radish roses up your nose when you
> read that Hilary farted for all I care, and you'll probably be taken as
> seriously as you are when you feign objectivity, yet ignore it when the OTHER
> wingers **** up so bad...

I have NEVER feigned objectivity. I am overtly, proudly partisan. You,
however, claim you're not a "conservative." What a ****ing joke (not to
mention a misnomer).

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[David Snedeker]

> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:20:55 GMT, rw >
wrote:
>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> And now, we await Curly....
> >>
> >
> >C'mon now, rdean. We get to gloat when the wingers **** up so bad.
>
> ...paging Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard....
>
> Oh, hey, you can stick intricately-carved radish roses up your nose when
you
> read that Hilary farted for all I care, and you'll probably be taken as
> seriously as you are when you feign objectivity, yet ignore it when the
OTHER
> wingers **** up so bad...
>
Remind me. . . when was it that the DNC hired gay prostitutes to write
antigay marriage screeds, impersonate Whitehouse reporters, and expose an
American intelligence agent? Come on now, don't you have a bottom line?
Isn't there some low point at which you part company with the trash?

Come on now Deano. You can do better than that. Your Mama's boy is over
there in Europe telling the Euro's that "Iran is not Iraq" to snickering
crowds of dozens, while the world hopes he doesn't go off his nut again and
start another war. As if thats not bad enough, back in the States his
Whitehouse staff is running around pointing at one another whining about
whose Whitehouse credit card is going to show up with a charge for a "golden
shower" by your "favorable reporter", Mr. Guckert.

Tell me this Dean. Its pretty clear that Guckert's cover "Talon News
Service" was a project funded by a group of Tex-Oki whack jobs from your
circle of underemployed Feudalists. Did you contribute any money to this
fiasco?

Dave
The FBI is interviewing Guckert about exposing a CIA agent.

[[email protected]]

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:47:14 -0800, "David Snedeker" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:20:55 GMT, rw >
>wrote:
>>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> And now, we await Curly....
>> >>
>> >
>> >C'mon now, rdean. We get to gloat when the wingers **** up so bad.
>>
>> ...paging Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard....
>>
>> Oh, hey, you can stick intricately-carved radish roses up your nose when
>you
>> read that Hilary farted for all I care, and you'll probably be taken as
>> seriously as you are when you feign objectivity, yet ignore it when the
>OTHER
>> wingers **** up so bad...
>>
>Remind me. . . when was it that the DNC hired gay prostitutes to write
>antigay marriage screeds, impersonate Whitehouse reporters, and expose an
>American intelligence agent? Come on now, don't you have a bottom line?
>Isn't there some low point at which you part company with the trash?
>
>Come on now Deano. You can do better than that. Your Mama's boy is over
>there in Europe telling the Euro's that "Iran is not Iraq" to snickering
>crowds of dozens, while the world hopes he doesn't go off his nut again and
>start another war. As if thats not bad enough, back in the States his
>Whitehouse staff is running around pointing at one another whining about
>whose Whitehouse credit card is going to show up with a charge for a "golden
>shower" by your "favorable reporter", Mr. Guckert.
>
>Tell me this Dean. Its pretty clear that Guckert's cover "Talon News
>Service" was a project funded by a group of Tex-Oki whack jobs from your
>circle of underemployed Feudalists. Did you contribute any money to this
>fiasco?
>
>Dave
>The FBI is interviewing Guckert about exposing a CIA agent.

U-u-u-h-huh...sheesh, it's like reading David Gest's bio of Liza
Minelli...nothing sadder than a silly old fag trying to get in his, er,
licks...to paraphrase, Shemp, silly little people like you, Curly, and Larry the
Proud Partisan take sides, serious people have interests...

....boogity-boogity-boogity...BOO!

[[email protected]]

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 04:07:26 GMT, rw > wrote:

wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:20:55 GMT, rw > wrote:
>>
>>
wrote:
>>>
>>>>And now, we await Curly....
>>>>
>>>
>>>C'mon now, rdean. We get to gloat when the wingers **** up so bad.
>>
>>
>> ...paging Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard....
>>
>> Oh, hey, you can stick intricately-carved radish roses up your nose when you
>> read that Hilary farted for all I care, and you'll probably be taken as
>> seriously as you are when you feign objectivity, yet ignore it when the OTHER
>> wingers **** up so bad...
>
>I have NEVER feigned objectivity. I am overtly, proudly partisan.

Ah, OK, Che...well, just some advice, but it might help your cause, whatever
that may be, if you had at least SOME idea of what you were you proudly partisan
about...I mean, it may sound all romantic and well and good to run around the
countryside in a beret shouting "Vive le resistance!," but when you're following
leaders like Generalissimo Moore and Fidel Franken, you're gonna wind up taking
one in the...on second thought, do carry on...

>You, however, claim you're not a "conservative." What a ****ing joke (not to
>mention a misnomer).

Well, see - EXACTLY!

[rw]

David Snedeker wrote:

> The FBI is interviewing Guckert about exposing a CIA agent.

Now it looks like the Gannon/Guckert was fed prepared articles by the
administration, which he then turned over, verbatim, for publication.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[B J Conner]

The more you say the more I understand Pol Pot
> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 04:07:26 GMT, rw >
wrote:
>
> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:20:55 GMT, rw >
wrote:
> >>
> >>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>And now, we await Curly....
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>C'mon now, rdean. We get to gloat when the wingers **** up so bad.
> >>
> >>
> >> ...paging Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard....
> >>
> >> Oh, hey, you can stick intricately-carved radish roses up your nose
when you
> >> read that Hilary farted for all I care, and you'll probably be taken as
> >> seriously as you are when you feign objectivity, yet ignore it when the
OTHER
> >> wingers **** up so bad...
> >
> >I have NEVER feigned objectivity. I am overtly, proudly partisan.
>
> Ah, OK, Che...well, just some advice, but it might help your cause,
whatever
> that may be, if you had at least SOME idea of what you were you proudly
partisan
> about...I mean, it may sound all romantic and well and good to run around
the
> countryside in a beret shouting "Vive le resistance!," but when you're
following
> leaders like Generalissimo Moore and Fidel Franken, you're gonna wind up
taking
> one in the...on second thought, do carry on...
>
> >You, however, claim you're not a "conservative." What a ****ing joke
(not to
> >mention a misnomer).
>
> Well, see - EXACTLY!
>

[Wolfgang]

"B J Conner" > wrote in message
news:l%uTd.39735$uc.12780@trnddc08...
> The more you say the more I understand Pol Pot

Oh?

Did this Mr. Pot aspire to be a mediocre writer who blew his brains out and
who, in turn, aspired to be yet ANOTHER mediocre writer who blew his brains
out?

Wolfgang
who observes that there appears to be a lot more of that going around than
he would ever have guessed.

[David Snedeker]

> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:47:14 -0800, "David Snedeker"
>
> wrote:
> >
> >Tell me this Dean. Its pretty clear that Guckert's cover "Talon News
> >Service" was a project funded by a group of Tex-Oki whack jobs from your
> >circle of underemployed Feudalists. Did you contribute any money to this
> >fiasco?
> >
> >Dave
> >The FBI is interviewing Guckert about exposing a CIA agent.
>
> U-u-u-h-huh...sheesh, it's like reading David Gest's bio of Liza
> Minelli...nothing sadder than a silly old fag trying to get in his, er,
> licks...to paraphrase, Shemp, silly little people like you, Curly, and
Larry the
> Proud Partisan take sides, serious people have interests...
>

And people who use their wealth to feed chaos, lies and discord, in their
belief that in the destruction of democracy their interests will somehow
benefit because they have in the past. . . are no less surprised when the
loss of freedom and opportunity for the populus, results in a society in
which their kind are not welcome.

This guy Guckert may give up everything before this is over. Its going to be
interesting to see which Tex-Oki right-wing whack jobs contributed
"interest" money to him, as well as which right-wing "anti-gay" holy roller
whack jobs show up on his customer list.

Dave
I doubt W is going to be very pleased this time with his Tex-Oki helpers.
They went far to far this time.

[David Snedeker]

"rw" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> David Snedeker wrote:
>
> > The FBI is interviewing Guckert about exposing a CIA agent.
>
> Now it looks like the Gannon/Guckert was fed prepared articles by the
> administration, which he then turned over, verbatim, for publication.
>

This guy was all over the Upper Midwest campaigns. Im wondering why, and how
else they used him.

Dave

[David Snedeker]

"David Snedeker" > wrote in message
...

Anyone who still has doubts as to FOX News, should check out their web
site's coverage of this story. Try and find any mention of Mr. Guckert's
escort services or his ads giving his dick size, complete with pictures. FOX
makes like its the liberals harassing Mr. Guckert, and his family. Why all
he did was register some web sites (porn) for a client. All a big
misunderstanding.

How long are we going to tolerate this foreign owned anti-American Gutter
Fascist propaganda mill's use of the public's airways? There is a difference
between conservative media and Fox's Gutter Fascism.

Dave

[Harry North]

"David Snedeker" > wrote
>
> Fascist propaganda mill's use of the public's airways? There is a
difference
> between conservative media and Fox's Gutter Fascism.
>
> Dave
>
>

Are you favoring censorship?

Funny how the NY Times, LA Times, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS TV, Public Radio, and
the rest don't bother you, but have someone give a point of view YOU don't
agree with and you want to get militant about it.

> How long are we going to tolerate this foreign owned anti-American Gutter


And I thought the left were the "tolerant" people, unlike us hate-mongers on
the right.

Way to go!!! Castro, Marx, Lennin, and Stalin would approve.

[riverman]

"Harry North" > wrote in message
...
>
> "David Snedeker" > wrote
>>
> > Fascist propaganda mill's use of the public's airways? There is a
> difference
>> between conservative media and Fox's Gutter Fascism.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>
> Are you favoring censorship?
>
> Funny how the NY Times, LA Times, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS TV, Public Radio, and
> the rest don't bother you, but have someone give a point of view YOU don't
> agree with and you want to get militant about it.
>
>>

The position that "the Left does it, so its okay for the Right to do it" is
pretty adolescent. It makes the debate center on whether or not the Left
does it and not about the incorrectness of the Right doing it. That's just
deflecting. Its WRONG for the Right to be doing it, right here right now.
Deflecting does not make it okay.

--riverman

(I cannot believe that I actually have to say that to an adult.)

[Harry North]

"riverman" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Harry North" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "David Snedeker" > wrote
>>>
>> > Fascist propaganda mill's use of the public's airways? There is a
>> difference
>>> between conservative media and Fox's Gutter Fascism.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Are you favoring censorship?
>>
>> Funny how the NY Times, LA Times, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS TV, Public Radio,
>> and the rest don't bother you, but have someone give a point of view YOU
>> don't agree with and you want to get militant about it.
>>
>>>
>
> The position that "the Left does it, so its okay for the Right to do it"
> is pretty adolescent. It makes the debate center on whether or not the
> Left does it and not about the incorrectness of the Right doing it. That's
> just deflecting. Its WRONG for the Right to be doing it, right here right
> now. Deflecting does not make it okay.
>
> --riverman
>
> (I cannot believe that I actually have to say that to an adult.)
>

I don't recall saying it was ok for the right to do it. In fact, it's not
alright when the right does it at all. But to suggest that people not
tolerate opposing view points is quite sad. So much for celebrating
diversity.

(And I too cannot believe I would have to explain that to an adult)

[Wolfgang]

"Harry North" > wrote in message
...
>
> "riverman" > wrote in message
> ...

>> The position that "the Left does it, so its okay for the Right to do it"
>> is pretty adolescent. It makes the debate center on whether or not the
>> Left does it and not about the incorrectness of the Right doing it.
>> That's just deflecting. Its WRONG for the Right to be doing it, right
>> here right now. Deflecting does not make it okay.
>>
>> --riverman
>>
>> (I cannot believe that I actually have to say that to an adult.)
>>
>
> I don't recall saying it was ok for the right to do it. In fact, it's not
> alright when the right does it at all. But to suggest that people not
> tolerate opposing view points is quite sad. So much for celebrating
> diversity.
>
> (And I too cannot believe I would have to explain that to an adult)

What the hell are you guys talking about? :(

Wolfgang
who has an odd nagging feeling that he is going to be sorry he asked.
:(

[Harry North]

>
> What the hell are you guys talking about? :(
>
> Wolfgang
> who has an odd nagging feeling that he is going to be sorry he asked. :(
>
>

Just the same old partisan sparring, which is really just an insane exercise
in futility. ;-)

[David Snedeker]

"Harry North" > wrote in message
...
>
> "David Snedeker" > wrote
> >
> > Fascist propaganda mill's use of the public's airways? There is a
> difference
> > between conservative media and Fox's Gutter Fascism.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
>
> Are you favoring censorship?
>
> Funny how the NY Times, LA Times, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS TV, Public Radio, and
> the rest don't bother you, but have someone give a point of view YOU don't
> agree with and you want to get militant about it.
>
> > How long are we going to tolerate this foreign owned anti-American
Gutter
>
>
> And I thought the left were the "tolerant" people, unlike us hate-mongers
on
> the right.
>
> Way to go!!! Castro, Marx, Lennin, and Stalin would approve.
>

Point of view my ass. Guckert is a gay escort whose ads seem to offer sex
acts for hire. FOX is stonewalling. If you were honest you would look at the
guy's sex ads and judge for yourself. Fat chance.

Conservative views don't bother me in the least. Conservative reporting
doesn't bother me in the least. FOX doesn't differentiate between opinion
and factual reporting. Does FOX actually have foreign correspondents or
even a reasonable complement of reporters? Do you even care? My guess is
not.

Do you know or even care that the two top Gutter Fascist media, FOX and the
Washington Post, are owned respectively by the Whacko Ruppert Murdoch and
the Whacko Reverend Moon. Does this even affect your thinking? Do you know
who these people are? Are they U.S. citizens yet?

Your list ("...NY Times, LA Times, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS TV, Public Radio, and
the rest don't bother you.." ) If you ever actually read the NY Times or the
LA Times, or listened to PBS you might know what the hell you are talking
about. Try it sometime.
You need to learn the difference between propaganda and news. And when you
do, we can have a discussion about tolerance.

Dave

[riverman]

"Wolfgang" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Harry North" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "riverman" > wrote in message
>> ...
>
>>> The position that "the Left does it, so its okay for the Right to do it"
>>> is pretty adolescent. It makes the debate center on whether or not the
>>> Left does it and not about the incorrectness of the Right doing it.
>>> That's just deflecting. Its WRONG for the Right to be doing it, right
>>> here right now. Deflecting does not make it okay.
>>>
>>> --riverman
>>>
>>> (I cannot believe that I actually have to say that to an adult.)
>>>
>>
>> I don't recall saying it was ok for the right to do it. In fact, it's not
>> alright when the right does it at all. But to suggest that people not
>> tolerate opposing view points is quite sad. So much for celebrating
>> diversity.
>>
>> (And I too cannot believe I would have to explain that to an adult)
>
> What the hell are you guys talking about? :(
>
> Wolfgang
> who has an odd nagging feeling that he is going to be sorry he asked. :(
>
>

Actually, I'm pretty sure that I have absolutely no idea. Harry?

--riverman

[vincent p. norris]

>Do you know or even care that the two top Gutter Fascist media, FOX and the
>Washington Post, are owned respectively by the Whacko Ruppert Murdoch and
>the Whacko Reverend Moon.

Dave, I think you mean Washington Times.

vince

[David Snedeker]

"vincent p. norris" > wrote in message
...
> >Do you know or even care that the two top Gutter Fascist media, FOX and
the
> >Washington Post, are owned respectively by the Whacko Ruppert Murdoch and
> >the Whacko Reverend Moon.
>
> Dave, I think you mean Washington Times.
>
> vince

Damn, you are right. I get to fuming and . . . . Thanks. Mea Culpa.

And I understand that the Reverend Moon, long linked with the Korean CIA, is
also a main funder for the NeoCon "Weekly Standard," Bill Kristols magazine
that puts an intellectual face on Gutter Fascism.

So here we have an Ex-felon/ self-proclaimed godhead (Moon), paying the
bills for a right-wing rag, published by the scion of America's most
notorious Trotskyite family (the Kristols) who have become a major force in
Gutter Fascism (Neo-Conservatism). Its an amazing time we live in.

Dave