FIGHTIN'EST FISH?

[Lionel F. Stevenson]

Hi y'all,

Of the fish I've caught, these are the fightinest ounce for ounce:

1. Atlantic Salmon
2. Rainbow trout
3. Mackerel
4. Sea run speckled trout
5. Brook trout
5. Pond trout (brookies)

Whaddya think?

-- Lionel

[Tim J.]

Lionel F. Stevenson typed:
> Hi y'all,
>
> Of the fish I've caught, these are the fightinest ounce for ounce:
>
> 1. Atlantic Salmon
> 2. Rainbow trout
> 3. Mackerel
> 4. Sea run speckled trout
> 5. Brook trout
> 5. Pond trout (brookies)
>
> Whaddya think?

If we're talking ounce for ounce. . .
1) Smallmouth bass
2) Bluegill
3) Largemouth bass
4) Brookies
5) 'Bows
--
TL,
Tim
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[Wayne Knight]

Tim J. wrote:
>
> If we're talking ounce for ounce. . .
> 1) Smallmouth bass

Will someone please tell me where these *fighting* smallmouth bass are?
I've caught the damn things in six states now and think their
reputation is over rated (the river bred ones were a little feisty but
nothing like a wild brown). But I keep reading about them so someone
must think it is true.

> 3) Largemouth bass

You're kidding right?

[Tim J.]

Wayne Knight typed:
> Tim J. wrote:
>>
>> If we're talking ounce for ounce. . .
>> 1) Smallmouth bass
>
> Will someone please tell me where these *fighting* smallmouth bass
> are? I've caught the damn things in six states now and think their
> reputation is over rated (the river bred ones were a little feisty but
> nothing like a wild brown). But I keep reading about them so someone
> must think it is true.

I know you've fished out this way, so saying "they're over here" wouldn't
satisfy the question. I think you probably just need to quit using your 9wt.
;-)

>> 3) Largemouth bass
>
> You're kidding right?

Would I kid you? I've not caught too many LM bass, but the ones I have
caught have been *great* to have on the rod.
--
TL,
Tim
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[Tom Nakashima]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Tim J. wrote:
>>
>> If we're talking ounce for ounce. . .
>> 1) Smallmouth bass
>
> Will someone please tell me where these *fighting* smallmouth bass are?
> I've caught the damn things in six states now and think their
> reputation is over rated (the river bred ones were a little feisty but
> nothing like a wild brown). But I keep reading about them so someone
> must think it is true.
>
>> 3) Largemouth bass
>
> You're kidding right?
>

That was with his 3wt
-tom

[William Claspy]

On 9/23/05 10:45 AM, in article
. com, "Wayne Knight"
> wrote:

>
> Tim J. wrote:

>> 3) Largemouth bass
>
> You're kidding right?
>

I always enjoy getting a bucketmouth on a popper and a 5 weight. Love that
tail dance. And of course it usually happens when I'm fishing with the
kids, which doesn't hurt :-)

Bill

[Wayne Knight]

Tim J. wrote:

> I think you probably just need to quit using your 9wt.

You might not believe this, but I don't own a 9wt.

> Would I kid you?

You know that answer ;)

>I've not caught too many LM bass, but the ones I have
> caught have been *great* to have on the rod.

I think any fish, even trash fish, are *great* to have on a rod and
maybe it's because of that short Mass season but catching a LM Bass is
like Redneck Foreplay, ain't nothing there to excite you.

[bruiser]

1. Jack Crevalle
2. Bonito
3. Bonefish

I've never hooked a Tarpon, and I've only caught one decent sized Jack,
but it turned my nine weight into a chainsaw.

bruce h

[Tim J.]

Wayne Knight typed:
> catching a LM Bass is
> like Redneck Foreplay, ain't nothing there to excite you.

I guess I'll just have to take your word on that subject. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
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[Wayne Knight]

Lionel F. Stevenson wrote:
> Hi y'all,
>
> Of the fish I've caught, these are the fightinest ounce for ounce:
>
[snip]
> Whaddya think?

I think I'd like to catch an Atlantic Salmon one day.

But until then

1. Permit
2. Blue Marlin
3. Sailfish
4. King Mackerel
5. Brown Trout

[GaryM]

"Wayne Knight" > wrote in
oups.com:

> I think any fish, even trash fish, are *great* to have on a rod
> and maybe it's because of that short Mass season but catching a LM
> Bass is like Redneck Foreplay, ain't nothing there to excite you.

LOL. I only fish for LM Bass with top water, floating patterns. Seeing
a bass burst out the lillypads is pretty exciting, but it goes down
hill from there unless it's a 3lb+.

[Tim J.]

Wayne Knight typed:
> Lionel F. Stevenson wrote:
>> Hi y'all,
>>
>> Of the fish I've caught, these are the fightinest ounce for ounce:
>>
> [snip]
>> Whaddya think?
>
> I think I'd like to catch an Atlantic Salmon one day.
>
> But until then
>
> 1. Permit
> 2. Blue Marlin
> 3. Sailfish
> 4. King Mackerel
> 5. Brown Trout

It's interesting to read the different take on fighting fish. I've never
even fished for your #1-4 (someday, when I grow up), but the brown trout
I've caught, and I've caught a few, have been near lethargic. The big ones
I've caught have put up some fight and were fun on a light rod, but on an
"ounce-for-ounce" basis didn't even make it into my top 5.
--
TL,
Tim
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[Wayne Knight]

Tim J. wrote:

> but the brown trout
> I've caught, and I've caught a few, have been near lethargic. The big ones
> I've caught have put up some fight and were fun on a light rod, but on an
> "ounce-for-ounce" basis didn't even make it into my top 5.

I think a lot of *fish fighting* comes from the evironment. And IMO, if
most of the fish one is catching once felt the side of a hatchery tank
I don't think they fight very hard at all, but the last couple of
decent sized (>14") browns I've hooked took some serious line out and
really put a bend in the rod.

I fish to fish these days and like trout more because of where they
live not so much of how they fight. I've spent most of my life on the
southern coast. As a teenager and a young adult I had so many
opportunities to fish the salt. Besides the Blue Marlin, I've caught
white and striped marlin, hooked a tarpon, sailfish, swordfish,
dolphin, several species of shark, etc. I think sal****er fish are the
better fighters pound for pound but I just don't enjoy that kind of
fishing anymore. Same with the Bass and Bream, I fish for them at least
twice a week in the ponds and creeks near here, nothing wrong with them
per se but I look forward to each outing for my troutlets. The wild
ones are so much more attractive.

[JR]

Wayne Knight wrote:
> .... I think sal****er fish are the
> better fighters pound for pound but I just don't enjoy that kind of
> fishing anymore. Same with the Bass and Bream, I fish for them at least
> twice a week in the ponds and creeks near here, nothing wrong with them
> per se but I look forward to each outing for my troutlets. The wild
> ones are so much more attractive.

Very true. I don't think there are any freshwater fish that can match
*pound-for-pound* any sal****er fish.... even the ugliest little grunting,
shovel-faced, spiny-fan-finned, puke-and-mud-colored bottom-dweller.....

I'd much rather catch a 9" trout than a 9" bluegill, for the reasons you
state (beauty of the fish *and* their surroundings), although
ounce-for-ounce the bluegill will almost always fight better.

Among salmonids I've caught, I think it's steelhead > rainbows > brookies
> cutthroat > browns > bulls.

But then, that's based on the specimens I've happened to run across. As
you say, things vary a lot from place to place. The browns in OR, even
the stream-bred ones, are pound-for-pound mere shadows of their cousins in
the Madison. Bull trout in the Metolius are infamous for being poor
fighters; folks on the Westfly board call them boots. In the reservoir
the Metolius drains into, though, they're reputed to fight like tigers....

JR

[JR]

Jonathan Cook wrote:
>
> I've never encountered a species that seems extremely more fighting,
> for me it boils down to individual fish. Some fight, some don't.

Geez, you're a scientist.... we expect some sort of signal-to-noise
analysis here... ;)

JR
(I mean, what if we ever discuss which countries have the best looking
women? <g>)

[William Claspy]

On 9/23/05 2:04 PM, in article , "JR"
> wrote:


> (I mean, what if we ever discuss which countries have the best looking
> women? <g>)

Oh sure, like THAT'S ever going to happen!

:-)

B

[jbthwart77]

Wayne Knight typed:
catching a LM Bass is
like Redneck Foreplay, ain't nothing there to excite you.

I guess I'll just have to take your word on that subject. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
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Exuse me for bargin in but I'm gonna have to say the Stripers in the Tailwaters of Lake Texoma are #1 on my list and #2 is the Brown Trout on the Lower Mountain Fork River at Broken Bow, Oklahoma>< This is a Designated Trophy Trout Stream
Jeffrey B.

[Sarge]

Lionel F. Stevenson wrote: "Of the fish I've caught, these are the
fightinest ounce for ounce: 1. Atlantic Salmon 2. Rainbow trout
3. Mackerel 4. Sea run speckled trout 5. Brook trout 5. Pond trout
(brookies)Whaddya think?"

Try Jack Cravelle and a redfish. Bluegill are fighters too.

Sarge

[riverman]

Jonathan Cook wrote:
> JR > wrote:
>
> > analysis here... ;)
>
> Well I think I'm casting my vote for the neon tetra...we're
> going ounce for ounce, after all :-)
>
> > (I mean, what if we ever discuss which countries have the best looking
> > women? <g>)
>
> I not well traveled enough to comment...hafta defer to riverman
> on this one...didn't he say something about latvia or one of those
> baltic states?
>
> Jon.

Absolutely. I read somewhere (and I've been looking for it again ever
since) that back in the 18th century, some rich Duke or something
embarked on a round-the-world tour looking for the most beautiful women
in the world. After several years of what was probably as unscientific
as it was enjoyable, he declared that the women of the baltic states,
particular some island off Estonia (I believe it was Saaremaa) were the
most beautiful. Having been there, I will personally declare that the
women of Riga have them beat, hands down.

Having conducted my own extensive research, and SWMBO being exempted
because she would tilt the scales (as well as the front door lock), I
earnestly declare that the Latvian women are #1, the Hong Kong chinese
have a few very strong frontrunners, and the Isareli women can
certainly hold their own. The congolese are not to be
misunderestimated, as there were certainly a few diamonds in the rough
there. The Brits, sorry to say, are not even allowed in the
competition...

--riverman

[Wolfgang]

"riverman" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> ..The Brits, sorry to say, are not even allowed in the
> competition...

Roight, ladies!.....back to the scullery then, wot?

Wolfgang
o.k., they can't cook and they're ugly. small wonder that the scotts and
the gordons and the cooks and the livingstones and the drakes and the
fitzroys and the burtons and the rhodes and the raleighs and the kitcheners
all left home and went gallivanting about the globe civilizing the bloody
wogs. :)

[Joe McIntosh]

"riverman" >>
>> > (I mean, what if we ever discuss which countries have the best looking
>> > women? <g>)
>>
>> I not well traveled enough to comment...hafta defer to riverman
>> on this one...didn't he say something about latvia or one of those
>> baltic states?
>>
> there. The Brits, sorry to say, are not even allowed in the
> competition...
>
> --riverman

Indian Joe offers---certainly less traveled than riverman but enjoyed his
comments { especially about the brits] but think he has omitted the young
Latinos. Those well built hot numbers shown on our recently gained
Latino TV channel certainly are arousing to watch.

[Michael Johnson]

if you come down to El Salvador where i live since 94, i waill take you to
Lago Ilopongo
there is a type of tiger bass there that will rock your world
the natives even spearfish them
a 10 pounder you will think is a hundred pounder
www.tropicooltours.com
c'ya

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and as Bubba Johnson say'z
"eat mo' fish"

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[Mike Bernardoni]

Well for size the Bluegill. For the warmwater fly fisherman that can't
get to trout waters The catfish and lowly carp fight good. If a
bluegill weighed five pounds, as hard as they fight I'm sure it would be
hard to get them out of the water!! Thanks
Mike

Michael Johnson wrote:
>
> if you come down to El Salvador where i live since 94, i waill take you to
> Lago Ilopongo
> there is a type of tiger bass there that will rock your world
> the natives even spearfish them
> a 10 pounder you will think is a hundred pounder
> www.tropicooltours.com
> c'ya
>
> --
> MICHAEL W. JOHNSON
> CAPE FEAR,COASTAL CAROLINAS USA
> www.myrtlebeachseafoods.com
> www.senorpescado.com
> www.bubbajohnsonshrimp.com
> CELL: 843.455.9415
> FAX: 859.406.4650
> MSN mwjohnson25
> ICQ 144178761
> YAHOO: madmikz
> SKYPE: pescadero52
>
> and as Bubba Johnson say'z
> "eat mo' fish"
>
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Great question and all based upon my personal experience. For me,
fresh water would without a doubt be carp. For salt water would be
bonita.
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Padishar Creel

> Hi y'all,
>
> Of the fish I've caught, these are the fightinest ounce for ounce:
>
> 1. Atlantic Salmon
> 2. Rainbow trout
> 3. Mackerel
> 4. Sea run speckled trout
> 5. Brook trout
> 5. Pond trout (brookies)
>
> Whaddya think?
>
> -- Lionel