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Tom Nakashima
October 28th, 2005, 09:53 PM
On lunch breaks I practice my casting on the nearby lawn. No hooks, just
yarn. Today I saw a squirrel searching for food so I made a tight loop in
the same direction about 50 ft away. Planted the yarn about two feet away
from the squirrel, thought it would be good practice in presentation. The
squirrel wasn't even startled and as I continued to slowly retrieve the line
with orange yarn acting as a fly, the squirrel snatched up the yarn in it's
mouth. I didn't want to set the yarn for fear I would hook the line on it's
teeth, so I just watched in amazement. Shortly the squirrel spit out the
yarn.
First time I ever caught something other than a fish on a flyrod.
-tom

Ken Fortenberry
October 28th, 2005, 10:07 PM
Tom Nakashima wrote:
> <snip>
> First time I ever caught something other than a fish on a flyrod.

One of the hazards of fishing the Hex hatch here in the
midwest is that Hexagenia limbata come out at about the
same time of the evening as bats.

Yoo don't want to start your forward cast with a bat on
the end of your fly line. Damn near broke my arm, or seemed
like it anyway. One more good argument for barbless hooks.

--
Ken Fortenberry

BJ Conner
October 28th, 2005, 10:18 PM
Tom Nakashima wrote:
> On lunch breaks I practice my casting on the nearby lawn. No hooks, just
> yarn. Today I saw a squirrel searching for food so I made a tight loop in
> the same direction about 50 ft away. Planted the yarn about two feet away
> from the squirrel, thought it would be good practice in presentation. The
> squirrel wasn't even startled and as I continued to slowly retrieve the line
> with orange yarn acting as a fly, the squirrel snatched up the yarn in it's
> mouth. I didn't want to set the yarn for fear I would hook the line on it's
> teeth, so I just watched in amazement. Shortly the squirrel spit out the
> yarn.
> First time I ever caught something other than a fish on a flyrod.
> -tom


OK here's the first of 20 post with a reference to this site.
http://www.conknet.com/~b_bull/special/chickenfishing.html

Wolfgang
October 29th, 2005, 12:13 AM
"Tom Nakashima" > wrote in message
...
> On lunch breaks I practice my casting on the nearby lawn. No hooks, just
> yarn. Today I saw a squirrel searching for food so I made a tight loop in
> the same direction about 50 ft away. Planted the yarn about two feet away
> from the squirrel, thought it would be good practice in presentation. The
> squirrel wasn't even startled and as I continued to slowly retrieve the
> line with orange yarn acting as a fly, the squirrel snatched up the yarn
> in it's mouth. I didn't want to set the yarn for fear I would hook the
> line on it's teeth, so I just watched in amazement. Shortly the squirrel
> spit out the yarn.
> First time I ever caught something other than a fish on a flyrod.
> -tom

Last month (was it only a month ago?) John caught a frog
on.......um......well, I guess I don't know what it was. We were sitting on
a couple of rocks at the ultra secret smallmouth spot on the W_s_o_s_n
river, doing a remarkably good impression of stupid and indolent (if I do
say so myself) when I spies the froggie sitting on a rock, doing a
remarkably good impression of us. "Hey, lookee," sez I, "there's a
froggie." John swings his pole over so that his bug is about six inches
above and ever so slightly ahead of the froggie. Froggie jumps.....tongue
extends.....CHOMP!

Froggie hangs at end of leader.........and hangs.......and hangs.......and
gets bored and lets go.

John says, "They'll hit anything that moves, heh, heh."

Wolfgang
it was maybe cooler than it sounds.

Scottish Fly Fisher
October 30th, 2005, 04:13 PM
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:53:25 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
> wrote:

>On lunch breaks I practice my casting on the nearby lawn. No hooks, just
>yarn. Today I saw a squirrel searching for food so I made a tight loop in
>the same direction about 50 ft away. Planted the yarn about two feet away
>from the squirrel, thought it would be good practice in presentation. The
>squirrel wasn't even startled and as I continued to slowly retrieve the line
>with orange yarn acting as a fly, the squirrel snatched up the yarn in it's
>mouth. I didn't want to set the yarn for fear I would hook the line on it's
>teeth, so I just watched in amazement. Shortly the squirrel spit out the
>yarn.
>First time I ever caught something other than a fish on a flyrod.
>-tom
>

That's so kind of you, Tom... helping a squirrel floss!

I once caught a bat on the backcast. I thought I'd got snagged up a
tree, until I noticed my line was moving. I've never been so glad of
de-barbing my hooks in all of my life. He was a tricky little bugger
to release.

John
/fishing/
http://groups.msn.com/scottishflyfisher

Scottish Fly Fisher
October 30th, 2005, 04:15 PM
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:07:16 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> wrote:

>Tom Nakashima wrote:
>> <snip>
>> First time I ever caught something other than a fish on a flyrod.
>
>One of the hazards of fishing the Hex hatch here in the
>midwest is that Hexagenia limbata come out at about the
>same time of the evening as bats.
>
>Yoo don't want to start your forward cast with a bat on
>the end of your fly line. Damn near broke my arm, or seemed
>like it anyway. One more good argument for barbless hooks.

****, I should have read through the thread... I coulda just posted
"me too." LoL

John
/fishing/
http://groups.msn.com/scottishflyfisher

Bryan
October 31st, 2005, 02:34 AM
I saw this funny web site about catching prairie dogs:
http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-place/writing/pdf/howtofpd.htm

Bryan

"Tom Nakashima" > wrote in message
...
> On lunch breaks I practice my casting on the nearby lawn. No hooks, just
> yarn. Today I saw a squirrel searching for food so I made a tight loop in
> the same direction about 50 ft away. Planted the yarn about two feet away
> from the squirrel, thought it would be good practice in presentation. The
> squirrel wasn't even startled and as I continued to slowly retrieve the
> line with orange yarn acting as a fly, the squirrel snatched up the yarn
> in it's mouth. I didn't want to set the yarn for fear I would hook the
> line on it's teeth, so I just watched in amazement. Shortly the squirrel
> spit out the yarn.
> First time I ever caught something other than a fish on a flyrod.
> -tom
>
>

riverman
October 31st, 2005, 05:48 AM
Bryan wrote:
> I saw this funny web site about catching prairie dogs:
> http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-place/writing/pdf/howtofpd.htm
>
>

Funny???? Are you SICK??

I think that's completely inhumane and brutal! C&R for fish, with their
dubius nervous systems and most likely lack of cognizance is one thing,
but to snare, torture and beat a MAMMAL just for fun, and you call that
funny??

If you hate prairie dogs and they are a pest, trap them or shoot them,
but animal torture of mammals is just wrong.

You should be f**king ashamed of yourself! And I'm not even a PETA
supporter.

--riverman

Mike Connor
October 31st, 2005, 11:54 AM
"Bryan" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
>I saw this funny web site about catching prairie dogs:
>http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-place/writing/pdf/howtofpd.htm
>
> Bryan

Very sad indeed that anybody should find such perversion even remotely
amusing.

MC

Scottish Fly Fisher
October 31st, 2005, 12:12 PM
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:34:11 -0700, "Bryan"
> wrote:

>I saw this funny web site about catching prairie dogs:
>http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-place/writing/pdf/howtofpd.htm
>

That is disturbing, not funny. It would have been funny if it was a
parody, but these people actually do this???

John
/fishing/
http://groups.msn.com/scottishflyfisher

Mike Connor
October 31st, 2005, 12:19 PM
"Scottish Fly Fisher" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:34:11 -0700, "Bryan"
> > wrote:
>
>>I saw this funny web site about catching prairie dogs:
>>http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-place/writing/pdf/howtofpd.htm
>>
>
> That is disturbing, not funny. It would have been funny if it was a
> parody, but these people actually do this???
>
> John
> /fishing/
> http://groups.msn.com/scottishflyfisher


The guy writes a lot of odd stuff, this may just be a wind-up;
http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-place/writing/pdf/pdft.htm

What is an odd coincidence, is this;
http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-place/index.htm

Bet you wish you had not disclosed your secret identity now! :)

TL
MC

Lionel F. Stevenson
October 31st, 2005, 12:58 PM
in article , Scottish Fly Fisher
at wrote on 10/30/05 12:15 PM:

> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:07:16 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> > wrote:
>
>> Tom Nakashima wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>> First time I ever caught something other than a fish on a flyrod.
>>
>> One of the hazards of fishing the Hex hatch here in the
>> midwest is that Hexagenia limbata come out at about the
>> same time of the evening as bats.
>>
>> Yoo don't want to start your forward cast with a bat on
>> the end of your fly line. Damn near broke my arm, or seemed
>> like it anyway. One more good argument for barbless hooks.
>
> ****, I should have read through the thread... I coulda just posted
> "me too." LoL
>
> John
> /fishing/
> http://groups.msn.com/scottishflyfisher

I find that bats often hit the knots in the leader.

-- Lionel

Wolfgang
October 31st, 2005, 01:27 PM
"Scottish Fly Fisher" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:34:11 -0700, "Bryan"
> > wrote:
>
>>I saw this funny web site about catching prairie dogs:
>>http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-place/writing/pdf/howtofpd.htm
>>
>
> That is disturbing, not funny. It would have been funny if it was a
> parody, but these people actually do this???


Having read the whole site, I can hardly help but believe that someone's
tongue was more or less firmly embedded in his cheek.

Wolfgang
which is not to say that a certain would be subliminal message might not be
present. :)

riverman
October 31st, 2005, 01:32 PM
Well, its not ALL bad...this is from the second website:

"One day, the first grade teacher was reading the story of the Three
Little Pigs to her class. She came to the part of the story where the
first pig was trying to accumulate the building materials for his home.
She read. "...And the pig went up to the man with the wheelbarrow full
of straw and said, 'Pardon me sir, but may I have some of that straw to
build my house?'" The teacher paused then and asked the class, "And
what do you think that man said?" One little boy raised his hand and
said, "I think he said...'Holy ****! A talking pig!"

The teacher was unable to teach for the next 10 minutes.


--riverman

Tom Nakashima
October 31st, 2005, 02:45 PM
"riverman" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Well, its not ALL bad...this is from the second website:
>
> "One day, the first grade teacher was reading the story of the Three
> Little Pigs to her class. She came to the part of the story where the
> first pig was trying to accumulate the building materials for his home.
> She read. "...And the pig went up to the man with the wheelbarrow full
> of straw and said, 'Pardon me sir, but may I have some of that straw to
> build my house?'" The teacher paused then and asked the class, "And
> what do you think that man said?" One little boy raised his hand and
> said, "I think he said...'Holy ****! A talking pig!"
>
> The teacher was unable to teach for the next 10 minutes.
>
>
> --riverman
>

Love those grade school jokes.
Teacher asked during a history session: "Who said; Ask NOT what the country
can do for you, ask what YOU can do for your country? Anyone?, Class,
anyone?" Suddenly a little quiet Japanese boy in back of the room stands
up and shyly says; "John Fitzgerald Kennedy, January 20, 1961." The teacher
comments; "Toshi is right, and I can't believe it took a little quiet boy
from Japan, who is not even a citizen of the US to come up with the right
answer!" All of a sudden a voice shouts out from the class; "WELL F _ _ K
the JAPANESE!!! The teacher embarrassed by the comment asked: "Who said
that? Class, who said that?" A little girl stand up and says; "Douglas
MacArthur, December 7, 1941.
-tom

riverman
October 31st, 2005, 04:29 PM
And this coming from someone with the last name 'Nagashima' :-)

OK, here's one for you.

A Japanese guy goes in to a money changer in NYC and changes some Yen
into dollars. The next day, he goes back and changes some more, but
gets a slightly worse rate. He asks the moneychanger why he got fewer
dollars for his yen than he did the day before. The moneychanger says
"Fluctuations, its just how it is." The Japanese guys walks to the
door, turns around, and yells "Yeah, well FLUCK YOU AMELICANS, TOO!!"

--riverman

riverman
October 31st, 2005, 04:37 PM
Uhh, "Nakashima".....

Tom Nakashima
October 31st, 2005, 05:00 PM
"riverman" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Uhh, "Nakashima".....
>

Close enough.
I took those Japanese roommates camping for their first time in their lives.
We didn't bring any firewood, so I made a list for one of the guys to hike
down to the local store about two miles down to pick up some "supplies",
while the other roommate and I setup camp. Well two hours goes by and no
roommate with the supplies. I start to worry when four hours goes by, no
roommate and no supplies. Five hours goes by and I start down the road to
go find my missing Japanese roommate. I get about 1/2 a mile down the road
and the darn Japanese guy jumps out of the bushes and yells; "SUPPLIES!!!"
-tom

Mike Connor
October 31st, 2005, 05:09 PM
"Tom Nakashima" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
<SNIP>
> Close enough.
> I took those Japanese roommates camping for their first time in their
> lives.
> We didn't bring any firewood, so I made a list for one of the guys to hike
> down to the local store about two miles down to pick up some "supplies",
> while the other roommate and I setup camp. Well two hours goes by and no
> roommate with the supplies. I start to worry when four hours goes by, no
> roommate and no supplies. Five hours goes by and I start down the road to
> go find my missing Japanese roommate. I get about 1/2 a mile down the
> road and the darn Japanese guy jumps out of the bushes and yells;
> "SUPPLIES!!!"
> -tom

BLILLIANT !

TL
MC

Scottish Fly Fisher
October 31st, 2005, 11:10 PM
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:19:31 +0100, "Mike Connor"
> wrote:

>
>"Scottish Fly Fisher" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
>> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:34:11 -0700, "Bryan"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>I saw this funny web site about catching prairie dogs:
>>>http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-place/writing/pdf/howtofpd.htm
>>>
>>
>> That is disturbing, not funny. It would have been funny if it was a
>> parody, but these people actually do this???
>>
>> John
>> /fishing/
>> http://groups.msn.com/scottishflyfisher
>
>
>The guy writes a lot of odd stuff, this may just be a wind-up;
>http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-place/writing/pdf/pdft.htm
>
>What is an odd coincidence, is this;
>http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-place/index.htm
>
>Bet you wish you had not disclosed your secret identity now! :)

No relation! No relation!!! Honest! :-)

John
/fishing/
http://groups.msn.com/scottishflyfisher

Scottish Fly Fisher
October 31st, 2005, 11:13 PM
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:58:09 GMT, "Lionel F. Stevenson"
> wrote:

>in article , Scottish Fly Fisher
>at wrote on 10/30/05 12:15 PM:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:07:16 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Tom Nakashima wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>> First time I ever caught something other than a fish on a flyrod.
>>>
>>> One of the hazards of fishing the Hex hatch here in the
>>> midwest is that Hexagenia limbata come out at about the
>>> same time of the evening as bats.
>>>
>>> Yoo don't want to start your forward cast with a bat on
>>> the end of your fly line. Damn near broke my arm, or seemed
>>> like it anyway. One more good argument for barbless hooks.
>>
>> ****, I should have read through the thread... I coulda just posted
>> "me too." LoL
>>
>> John
>> /fishing/
>> http://groups.msn.com/scottishflyfisher
>
>I find that bats often hit the knots in the leader.

That could have happened... sometimes I'm surprised by a "dunt" on the
forward cast, but I put it down to catching the flora behind me, even
though I've been extremely careful to avoid the trees. That would
explain it.

BTW, I'm now wondering whether blood knots or surgeon's loops are more
attractive to bats...

John
/fishing/
http://groups.msn.com/scottishflyfisher

Scottish Fly Fisher
October 31st, 2005, 11:15 PM
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:27:37 -0600, "Wolfgang" >
wrote:

>
>"Scottish Fly Fisher" > wrote in message
...
>> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:34:11 -0700, "Bryan"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>I saw this funny web site about catching prairie dogs:
>>>http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-place/writing/pdf/howtofpd.htm
>>>
>>
>> That is disturbing, not funny. It would have been funny if it was a
>> parody, but these people actually do this???
>
>
>Having read the whole site, I can hardly help but believe that someone's
>tongue was more or less firmly embedded in his cheek.

I'm not so sure. Usually people put a disclaimer on this kind of site
for the hard of thinking. Still, it's a disturbing thought.

John
/fishing/
http://groups.msn.com/scottishflyfisher

Wolfgang
November 1st, 2005, 12:09 AM
"Scottish Fly Fisher" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:27:37 -0600, "Wolfgang" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Scottish Fly Fisher" > wrote in message
...
>>> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:34:11 -0700, "Bryan"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I saw this funny web site about catching prairie dogs:
>>>>http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-place/writing/pdf/howtofpd.htm
>>>>
>>>
>>> That is disturbing, not funny. It would have been funny if it was a
>>> parody, but these people actually do this???
>>
>>
>>Having read the whole site, I can hardly help but believe that someone's
>>tongue was more or less firmly embedded in his cheek.
>
> I'm not so sure. Usually people put a disclaimer on this kind of site
> for the hard of thinking.

Perhaps. I've seen very few such disclaimers myself, but maybe we don't
visit the same places.

> Still, it's a disturbing thought.

I'm sure that many people would find it disturbing for any number of
reasons. For anglers, I suspect it's because it bites kinda close to home.

Wolfgang
WELL, what the hell, we haven't had a good round of ethics as dictated by
piscine perception and psychology in WEEKS! :)

Scottish Fly Fisher
November 1st, 2005, 04:53 PM
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:09:03 -0600, "Wolfgang" >
wrote:

>
>"Scottish Fly Fisher" > wrote in message
...
>> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:27:37 -0600, "Wolfgang" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Scottish Fly Fisher" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:34:11 -0700, "Bryan"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I saw this funny web site about catching prairie dogs:
>>>>>http://www.lovelandnet.com/toms-place/writing/pdf/howtofpd.htm
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is disturbing, not funny. It would have been funny if it was a
>>>> parody, but these people actually do this???
>>>
>>>
>>>Having read the whole site, I can hardly help but believe that someone's
>>>tongue was more or less firmly embedded in his cheek.
>>
>> I'm not so sure. Usually people put a disclaimer on this kind of site
>> for the hard of thinking.
>
>Perhaps. I've seen very few such disclaimers myself, but maybe we don't
>visit the same places.
>
>> Still, it's a disturbing thought.
>
>I'm sure that many people would find it disturbing for any number of
>reasons. For anglers, I suspect it's because it bites kinda close to home.

Possibly. But I think this guy is on a different mind-set. After all,
I have never seen anglers laughing their arses off at the hilarity of
"slamming" their fish.

>Wolfgang
>WELL, what the hell, we haven't had a good round of ethics as dictated by
>piscine perception and psychology in WEEKS! :)
>

I think this one has more to do with human perception and psychology.

John
/fishing/
http://groups.msn.com/scottishflyfisher

Wolfgang
November 1st, 2005, 05:18 PM
"Scottish Fly Fisher" > wrote in message
...

>>I'm sure that many people would find it disturbing for any number of
>>reasons. For anglers, I suspect it's because it bites kinda close to
>>home.
>
> Possibly. But I think this guy is on a different mind-set. After all,
> I have never seen anglers laughing their arses off at the hilarity of
> "slamming" their fish.

How many people have you seen laughing their asses off at the hilarity of
this site?

>>Wolfgang
>>WELL, what the hell, we haven't had a good round of ethics as dictated by
>>piscine perception and psychology in WEEKS! :)
>>
>
> I think this one has more to do with human perception and psychology.

An interesting thought. One we should perhaps take up here someday.

Wolfgang

Scottish Fly Fisher
November 1st, 2005, 10:11 PM
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:18:09 -0600, "Wolfgang" >
wrote:

>
>"Scottish Fly Fisher" > wrote in message
...
>
>>>I'm sure that many people would find it disturbing for any number of
>>>reasons. For anglers, I suspect it's because it bites kinda close to
>>>home.
>>
>> Possibly. But I think this guy is on a different mind-set. After all,
>> I have never seen anglers laughing their arses off at the hilarity of
>> "slamming" their fish.
>
>How many people have you seen laughing their asses off at the hilarity of
>this site?

Er... one? OK, Wolfie... good point, well made!

>>>Wolfgang
>>>WELL, what the hell, we haven't had a good round of ethics as dictated by
>>>piscine perception and psychology in WEEKS! :)
>>>
>>
>> I think this one has more to do with human perception and psychology.
>
>An interesting thought. One we should perhaps take up here someday.
>
Far too depressing... I never recovered my innocence, and belief that
all people were inherently good, until some experience in their life
screwed their heads up. Then I read Stanley Milgram's work on
obedience and authority.

If you have time to waste, and want to justify any paranoia you may
have... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

John
/fishing/
http://groups.msn.com/scottishflyfisher

Cyli
November 3rd, 2005, 06:06 AM
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 22:11:15 +0000 (UTC), Scottish Fly Fisher
> wrote:


>
>If you have time to waste, and want to justify any paranoia you may
>have... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
>
It was when I first read about the Milgram experiments that I finally
figured out how good people can wind up doing bad things. Sometimes
very bad things. I put myself in the 'teacher' spot and figured I'd
have gone with it at least part way, maybe all the way. Very humbling
thought.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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