White perch

[Jeff Durham]

In a lake that I fish in SW Ohio, we occasionally catch drum using lead head
jigs when fishing for crappie and saugeye. I have heard others on this lake
make reference to catching white perch. First, I assume there is a
difference between these two type of fish. Second, I am not sure they know
what they are talking about. I have never caught nor seen a white perch,
but maybe they do exist in this lake. What are the main differences between
these fish from an identification standpoint? The drum I thought had a
round mouth more like a sucker which is very different from panfish. Maybe
I am the one who cannot tell the difference.

By the way, is white perch a good fish to eat?

Thanks,
Jeff

[IBNFSHN]

White Perch are excellent eating.

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Bill
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"Jeff Durham" > wrote in message
...
> In a lake that I fish in SW Ohio, we occasionally catch drum using lead
head
> jigs when fishing for crappie and saugeye. I have heard others on this
lake
> make reference to catching white perch. First, I assume there is a
> difference between these two type of fish. Second, I am not sure they
know
> what they are talking about. I have never caught nor seen a white perch,
> but maybe they do exist in this lake. What are the main differences
between
> these fish from an identification standpoint? The drum I thought had a
> round mouth more like a sucker which is very different from panfish.
Maybe
> I am the one who cannot tell the difference.
>
> By the way, is white perch a good fish to eat?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
>

[RichZ]

White perch is 1st cousin to a striped bass (much smaller, and without the
stripes)

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[Marty]

"RichZ" > wrote in message
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> White perch is 1st cousin to a striped bass (much smaller, and without the
> stripes)

Also same family as white bass. In my neck of the woods, I occasionally ran
into schools where I'd get a strike almost every cast, and they were mixed
schools, both white bass and white perch. Lots of fun on a 4# outfit. Those
fish would hit like a ton of bricks.

[G. M. Zimmermann]

White Perch is related to white bass and striped bass. They look kind of like
a white bass without the stripes. I don't think they get quite as big as white
bass, but I could be wrong on that.

-Zimmy

[RichZ]

G. wrote:
> I don't think they get quite as big as white
> bass, but I could be wrong on that.
>
You're not. Most of them are about 10 inches long, tops. Biggest I've ever
seen was just over 3 pounds. They tend to overpopulate lakes and get
somewhat stunted.

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[Bob La Londe]

"RichZ" > wrote in message
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> G. wrote:
> > I don't think they get quite as big as white
> > bass, but I could be wrong on that.
> >
> You're not. Most of them are about 10 inches long, tops. Biggest I've ever
> seen was just over 3 pounds. They tend to overpopulate lakes and get
> somewhat stunted.


So can striper.


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[Jeff Durham]

Thanks for the info. I will be on the look out for these white perch. On
Ohio DNR's website, it sounds like there is a possibility they could be in
the lake I fish, but they are not native to Ohio, but rather the Atlantic
Coast.

Jeff


"Jeff Durham" > wrote in message
...
> In a lake that I fish in SW Ohio, we occasionally catch drum using lead
head
> jigs when fishing for crappie and saugeye. I have heard others on this
lake
> make reference to catching white perch. First, I assume there is a
> difference between these two type of fish. Second, I am not sure they
know
> what they are talking about. I have never caught nor seen a white perch,
> but maybe they do exist in this lake. What are the main differences
between
> these fish from an identification standpoint? The drum I thought had a
> round mouth more like a sucker which is very different from panfish.
Maybe
> I am the one who cannot tell the difference.
>
> By the way, is white perch a good fish to eat?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
>

[Bob La Londe]

I don't know about the native part, but we would catch them from time to
time on Lake Erie over 20 years ago.

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"Jeff Durham" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for the info. I will be on the look out for these white perch. On
> Ohio DNR's website, it sounds like there is a possibility they could be in
> the lake I fish, but they are not native to Ohio, but rather the Atlantic
> Coast.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> "Jeff Durham" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In a lake that I fish in SW Ohio, we occasionally catch drum using lead
> head
> > jigs when fishing for crappie and saugeye. I have heard others on this
> lake
> > make reference to catching white perch. First, I assume there is a
> > difference between these two type of fish. Second, I am not sure they
> know
> > what they are talking about. I have never caught nor seen a white
perch,
> > but maybe they do exist in this lake. What are the main differences
> between
> > these fish from an identification standpoint? The drum I thought had a
> > round mouth more like a sucker which is very different from panfish.
> Maybe
> > I am the one who cannot tell the difference.
> >
> > By the way, is white perch a good fish to eat?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff
> >
> >
>
>

[RGarri7470]

>They tend to overpopulate lakes and get
>> somewhat stunted.
>
>
>So can striper.
>
>
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Stripers aren't able to reproduce in any lakes aroudn here - they are all
stocked. Maybe they are differnet out there but have never heard of them
overpopulating a lake.
Ronnie

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[Bob La Londe]

There is no bag limit on Lake Powell becasue of overpopulating. The first
ime I succeeded in catching Striper on Powell we were throwing back 7 and 8
pound fish. The average was over 10. The last time I fished for them we
were catching them in the 1 pound range, and 4-5 pound fish were the good
ones.

In many areas they stock wipers. white bass - striper hybrids. They are
sterile mules.

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"RGarri7470" > wrote in message
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> >They tend to overpopulate lakes and get
> >> somewhat stunted.
> >
> >
> >So can striper.
> >
> >
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> Stripers aren't able to reproduce in any lakes aroudn here - they are all
> stocked. Maybe they are differnet out there but have never heard of them
> overpopulating a lake.
> Ronnie
>
> http://fishing.about.com

[RichZ]

RGarri7470 wrote:
> Stripers aren't able to reproduce in any lakes aroudn here
>

Santee-Cooper. That's where the inland striper fishery started. They were
trapped in there on their spawning run when the dam was built, and the
first inland striper population was born -- but not discovered for 5 or 6
years.

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[RGarri7470]

>There is no bag limit on Lake Powell becasue of overpopulating.

I am not real familiar with Lake Powell - guess it is different out there. I
was told stripers need at least 50 miles of flowing water to reproduce - their
eggs need to float long enough to hatch. No lakes in Georgia have that, too
many dams. I guess other freshwater lakes where they were stocked could have
reproduction - are there any other lakes that are overpopulated with them?

We call striper/white crosses hybrids here - have heard the name wiper as well
as some others.
Ronnie

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[RGarri7470]

>Santee-Cooper. That's where the inland striper fishery started.

I had heard about Santee-Cooper and how stripers got started there, but don't
know much about it, it is a few hundred miles from me. Never been on it. Are
stripers overpopulated there?
Ronnie

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[Bob La Londe]

Th stripers are self sustaining on the whole Colorado River system. None of
them ever see salt water. The final flow of the river is diverted into the
Mexican irrigation system at Morelos Dam in Mexico.

Powell is the only place I know for sure is no limit, but I understand the
Meade is alss over populated and the stripers tend to run smaller than they
used to. Same river system though.

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"RGarri7470" > wrote in message
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> >There is no bag limit on Lake Powell becasue of overpopulating.
>
> I am not real familiar with Lake Powell - guess it is different out
there. I
> was told stripers need at least 50 miles of flowing water to reproduce -
their
> eggs need to float long enough to hatch. No lakes in Georgia have that,
too
> many dams. I guess other freshwater lakes where they were stocked could
have
> reproduction - are there any other lakes that are overpopulated with
them?
>
> We call striper/white crosses hybrids here - have heard the name wiper as
well
> as some others.
> Ronnie
>
> http://fishing.about.com

[Bob La Londe]

P.S. Lake Powell is a lot more than 50 miles long, and has atleast three
rivers and a couple creeks running into it.

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"RGarri7470" > wrote in message
...
> >There is no bag limit on Lake Powell becasue of overpopulating.
>
> I am not real familiar with Lake Powell - guess it is different out
there. I
> was told stripers need at least 50 miles of flowing water to reproduce -
their
> eggs need to float long enough to hatch. No lakes in Georgia have that,
too
> many dams. I guess other freshwater lakes where they were stocked could
have
> reproduction - are there any other lakes that are overpopulated with
them?
>
> We call striper/white crosses hybrids here - have heard the name wiper as
well
> as some others.
> Ronnie
>
> http://fishing.about.com

[RichZ]

RGarri7470 wrote:
> Are
> stripers overpopulated there?
>
Not to my knowledge.

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[Mike]

I asked before about stripers. Are there any who fish for them in the
group? Anyone know of any web pages that cover any real fishing info on
stripers?

I am in southern Alabama and I fish both the Tombigbee and Alabama rivers
and I am not finding the stripers in any of the same places I caught them
last year..seems this is the same for several that fish for them here.
Anyone have any ideas as to what is going on?

Thanks!

[Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers]

"Mike" > wrote in message <SNIP>
>
> I am in southern Alabama and I fish both the Tombigbee and Alabama rivers
> and I am not finding the stripers in any of the same places I caught them
> last year..seems this is the same for several that fish for them here.
> Anyone have any ideas as to what is going on?

What's different between this year and last year? Are the water temps and
water levels higher or lower? What about the forage fish that stripers eat?
Are they around or can't you find any balls of baitfish on the locator?

If the fish aren't where they were last year, something must have caused
them to move. It's either environmental conditions, food or fishing
pressure. They can't grow wings and leave. Consider this a learning
experience and figure out what caused the change and how the stripers
reacted. If the water is warmer, they might have moved out to cooler water.
If shad is the main forage and there was a major die-off, the stripers might
be keying on different species, thus different locations. Fishing is
something that should be a mental as well as physical challenge. Good
anglers put together the pieces of the puzzle to be successful.

I know it's not much of an answer, but I'm not down there and can't give
more advice than this.
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[J Buck]

<Are there any who fish for them in the group? Anyone know of any web
pages that cover any real fishing info on stripers?>

StriperSurf.com great site

[Bob La Londe]

I know this will sound silly, but have you visited around the local bait
shops to see what others are doing?

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"Mike" > wrote in message
link.net...
> I asked before about stripers. Are there any who fish for them in the
> group? Anyone know of any web pages that cover any real fishing info on
> stripers?
>
> I am in southern Alabama and I fish both the Tombigbee and Alabama rivers
> and I am not finding the stripers in any of the same places I caught them
> last year..seems this is the same for several that fish for them here.
> Anyone have any ideas as to what is going on?
>
> Thanks!