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Ignoblis
May 28th, 2007, 11:45 AM
These are the indigenous fish from the area, Clanwilliam Yellowfish.
Steamtrains to say the least. We get some decent bass in the dam too.

Putain
May 30th, 2007, 12:54 AM
"Ignoblis" > wrote in message
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> These are the indigenous fish from the area, Clanwilliam Yellowfish.
> Steamtrains to say the least. We get some decent bass in the dam too.
>

Looks like a grass carp

Ignoblis
May 30th, 2007, 07:53 AM
There are a few species of yellowfish spread throughout South Africa. This
one is in the Western Cape and is the most threatend. Its only occurs in two
river systems and struggles to compete with the bass that have been
introduced over the years.


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> "Ignoblis" > wrote in message
> news:1180349122.53147@wblv-ip-nnrp-1...
>> These are the indigenous fish from the area, Clanwilliam Yellowfish.
>> Steamtrains to say the least. We get some decent bass in the dam too.
>>
>
> Looks like a grass carp
>
>

Dick[_2_]
May 30th, 2007, 03:46 PM
Great Pic. The background reminds me of a lake I use to fish at Palo
Verde,California. The lake was fed by the Colorado river. (Dick)

mr&ms
May 30th, 2007, 04:56 PM
Yup...a grass carp

Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
June 12th, 2007, 08:00 PM
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Yup...a grass carp

Nope, not a grass carp at all, but a totally different fish. A Clanwilliam
Yellowfish is "Barbus capensis" and a grass carp, also known as a White
Amur, is "Ctenopharyngodon idella."
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The Great Gazooka[_2_]
June 12th, 2007, 10:27 PM
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:00:35 -0600, "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers"
> wrote:

>
>"mr&ms" > wrote in message
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>Yup...a grass carp
>
>Nope, not a grass carp at all, but a totally different fish. A Clanwilliam
>Yellowfish is "Barbus capensis" and a grass carp, also known as a White
>Amur, is "Ctenopharyngodon idella."
Until you fry them up and eat them.Then they're known as
ichthyoscatum. By golly.

JohnK
June 13th, 2007, 03:31 PM
"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" > wrote in message
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>
> "mr&ms" > wrote in message
> ...
> Yup...a grass carp
>
> Nope, not a grass carp at all, but a totally different fish. A
> Clanwilliam Yellowfish is "Barbus capensis" and a grass carp, also known
> as a White Amur, is "Ctenopharyngodon idella."
> --
> Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers

True, a different fish. But still a member of the carp family of fish, and
the physical resemblance
is remarkable, except of colurse for the distinct golden color. I find it
interesting that all over
the world, common carp is respected and in some places even prized , while
in North America we
consider it trash. Then, there are a number of other fish in the carp
family, which in their
own countries of origin are not considered or called "carp", we attach the
"carp" suffix to it and automatically
reduce it to a trash fish. That is besides the issue of being invasive
foreign species that we foolishly
brought here. Most of us fishermen now think these new Invasive Asian
"carps" are the same barbelled
mud diggers we brought here from Germany in the 1800s, which they are not.
I'm all for eliminating
the name "grass carp" and just calling it White Amur. BTW in Asia they are
just called "grass fish".

Ignoblis
June 14th, 2007, 01:04 PM
Absolutely right. Thanks for clearing that up guys.

Here in South Africa there has been a huge move in targeting the various
Yellowfish species, especially on fly . Shortline nymphing has been a
particularly successful method of catching them. Traditionally we have fly
fished for trout which are of course alien here. Yellowfish are a
formidable quarry and considered a serious tackle buster. Believe me they
are.

Its funny you should mention how carp is considered as trash in US. Over
here it is the same. Even Bass are considered trash by some of the "fly
fishing purists" over here.
I too was schooled in those ways until I discovered lures and bait which
opened up a whole new world for me.

Now I do it all and life is great.



"JohnK" > wrote in message
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> "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" > wrote in message
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>>
>> "mr&ms" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> Yup...a grass carp
>>
>> Nope, not a grass carp at all, but a totally different fish. A
>> Clanwilliam Yellowfish is "Barbus capensis" and a grass carp, also known
>> as a White Amur, is "Ctenopharyngodon idella."
>> --
>> Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
>
> True, a different fish. But still a member of the carp family of fish, and
> the physical resemblance
> is remarkable, except of colurse for the distinct golden color. I find it
> interesting that all over
> the world, common carp is respected and in some places even prized , while
> in North America we
> consider it trash. Then, there are a number of other fish in the carp
> family, which in their
> own countries of origin are not considered or called "carp", we attach the
> "carp" suffix to it and automatically
> reduce it to a trash fish. That is besides the issue of being invasive
> foreign species that we foolishly
> brought here. Most of us fishermen now think these new Invasive Asian
> "carps" are the same barbelled
> mud diggers we brought here from Germany in the 1800s, which they are not.
> I'm all for eliminating
> the name "grass carp" and just calling it White Amur. BTW in Asia they are
> just called "grass fish".
>
>
>