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Guyz-N-Flyz
October 10th, 2003, 12:37 AM
It was Sunday mornin', Oct. 5, 2003--I think?-- that I approached Mr. Jeff
Miller. I said, "I sure am glad to see ya, as I need a fishin' buddy that
can hike into some difficult to get to waters" (or words to that effect).
Not knockin' anyone at the 'Clave, at all, but the waters I like to fish can
be difficult at best and down right dangerous for some--myself
included!--but Mr. Miller is, shall I say, expendable. Knowin' Jeff's
penchant for fishin' the more remote stretches of wild trout waters in our
fine state, I figured that we'd be in agreement on just about any stream.

Well Mr. Miller says, "I figure we'd fish from the ***** Trail to the
falls." Jeff goes on to say that the had fished that very same stretch
before. So I say, "GREAT!" We agreed that we'd head out on Wed. morning.
Plannin' complete.

I arrived at the campgrounds at about 7:15 AM on Wed. morn, after a hard
Tuesday of *hiking* durin' the day and drinkin' durin' the eve (another
story, for another time that no one wants to hear). After havin' a
complimentary cup of coffee, I was asked whether I was going to jaw or fish?
I beat a hasty retreat for my truck, and we were off up the mountain. We
dropped Jeff's truck at the take-out and proceeded to the put-in. We
arrived streamside around eightish or so. Jeff began catchin' fish right
away on a dry fly--don't recall the name though. I had tied on a fairly
bushy thing that didn't seem to impress the trout. I tied on another fly
and still no trout, and Mr. Miller continued to catch fish at will. Finally
Mr. Miller suggested that I tie on a parachute Adams. The parachute Adams
was going to be my next choice, but I decided to let Mr. Miller believe that
he had pick out the perfect fly for me. Now we were both catchin' fish, and
in just about ever pool, riffle, run and ....

We were catchin' rainbows and browns, just one after another. I was
constantly changin' flys, as the parachute Adams was destroyed over time and
I had caught a number of trees too. I am very thankful that I practice
catch and release, as I doubt that I could have gotten all them trees in
just one creel. Most of the trout, caught, were in the six to nine inch
range, but Jeff seemed to be missin' a great many trophy size trout. I
never saw any of them mind ya, but accordin' to Jeff, "damn! that was a big
one too!" If Jeff had caught all the fish that he missed, he'd have had a
Guinness World's Record for certain. Regardless he is a legend and nemesis
to the trout the world over.

Well enuff about Jeff's prowess as a trout stalker, let me just fill y'all
in on his knowledge of streams. If Jeff ever says, "lets fish up to the
falls." Run far, run fast! That worthless no account don't know a falls
from spittle. We had fish a goodly part of the day, congradulatin' one
another on the choice of stream, fish caught, selection of fishin' partners,
choice of gum chewed, music, beer, more beer, women conquered, and just
about anything else that came to mind. It's amazin' how chummy fellas can
get, when catchin' one trout after another all day long. Jeff wondered out
loud several times how far we might be from the falls, but as I had never
fished this stretch of water that far up I hadn't a clue, and neither did
MR. MILLER! We came to a beautiful pool and after Jeff had taken about ten
fish from it he said, "I believe the falls are just around the next bend."
(or words to that effect) I stated that I didn't think so, because I had
been to the falls before--just not via this particular route--and this
water--well actually the size of the rocks, or should a say, more
accurately, the boulders!-- didn't look anything like the the falls I had
been to. We got around the bend and Jeff says, "there they are." And I
say, "there what are? The falls Jeff says. We were lookin' at a cascade of
water over a couple of very large rocks--note: very large rocks should
never be confused with extremely large BOULDERS! Very large rocks are the
size of a Chevy Suburban, or even a small house, but extremely large
BOULDERS are the size of two and three story buildings, if not gi-normouser.

Needless to say, we are both a bit perplexed, not knowin' exactly how much
further we must travel before we actually reach the *real* falls. For some
reason Jeff's got it into his head that we would know the trail out by the
appearance of one particularly large boulder on the left-side of the stream
and a pool that held a large rock in the middle that lesbians like to neck
on during the warm summer months. I have no idea where he got this notion,
but I must say it didn't sound all that bad to me. I kept searchin' the
stream for the island of Lesbo, all for naught though. Eventually, it
became abundantly clear, if we were going to know that we had arrived at the
take-out trail by identifying *one* particularly large boulder, we were in
serious trouble. Apparently, one of us was confused about the location of
this particularly large boulder, and it was finally determined that *that*
boulder was actually down the stream from where we had put-in (I can't
reveal which of us was confused, but I bet Jeff will have somethin' to say
on the subject, eventually).

It was gettin' late and Jeff, being afraid of the dark, was anxious to get
back to his truck. Around 4:30 PM we decided to just hike on up stream and
find the falls. We came to some gi-normous BOULDERS. We had to climb
mountain ridges just to get around many of these impediments to forward
progress. Jeff asked, " do ya think there are any more of these we'll have
to climb over?" I said, "**** IF I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!" We got over the next
gi-normous BOULDER and as far as the eye could see past the next GI-NORMOUS
BOULDER was another GI-NORNOUS BOULDER! We past up some of the most
beautiful water that I have ever laid eyes on, but we didn't dare stop to
fish, for fear that no-light would close-in around us. Well no-light was
closin' in fast! I told Jeff that I would hike up the ridge a bit and see
if I could find a trail. Jeff, fearin' that I was about to abandon him
began sobbin' uncontrollably. I promised not to leave him and that I would
be back in a minute or two. I told him just to fish the pretty pool in
front of him. That was like placin' a pacifier in his mouth. Jeff went to
castin' and I went off in search of a dream. Eureka! There was a trail,
but unfortunately, it led right back to the stream of BOULDERS! I boulder
hopped back down the stream to just above Jeff and made bear noises. Jeff
promptly pulled a 13 or so inch trout from the water and said, "did ya find
the trail?" I replied in the negative and Jeff hoisted his trout for me to
see. "Yeah, that's great Jeff. Now, let's get the **** outta here!" We
finally climbed to the top of this lithosphereic growth and I thought that I
recognized the falls. I was so relieved, until I realized that it was just
another very large section of exposed bedrock with water flowing from the
top to the bottom. We, finally, decided on which side of the really big
rock we would climb, and proceeded up.

Standin' on the top I happend to recognize my whereabouts. We were at the
take-out! I was so thankful, until we began the climb out of the GORGE!
Jeff remark that the only thing he could see on the way out was the white
cap on the water-bottle I was guardin' with the last ounce of strength I
possessed. Of course Jeff was wearin' a pair of sunglasses, go figure? I
would recount our ever step up the switch-back trail, it was painful enuff
the first time that I just can't bear to go over it again. I'd also tell ya
how I had left my headlights on all day and returned to a dead battery, then
I could tell ya how I had a voice mail message from my boss that said I
needed to be in at work by 6:00 AM in the morn and that when I got out to my
truck this morn that I had left the dome light on all night and the battery
was dead again, or how I found Mr. Millers rod tube in the back of the truck
this morn while lookin' for the jumper cables, or that I am now workin' 12
hour days and won't be able to attend the rest of the 'Clave, but that would
just bring tears to too many eyes. It did mine!

Op --Jeff call me and I will mail your rod tube back to ya. BTW, I'm
stickin' to my version of the daze events, unless Mr. Miller threatens
litigation!--

Guyz-N-Flyz
October 10th, 2003, 12:46 AM
"Guyz-N-Flyz" > wrote in message
.. .

Oh yeah, we got back to his truck at 7:30 PM!

Op --goin' to bed now--

George Cleveland
October 10th, 2003, 01:02 AM
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:37:13 -0400, "Guyz-N-Flyz"
> wrote:

A gi-normously amusing TR.

g.c.

Mike
October 10th, 2003, 02:11 AM
Great Report.....Glad to see you got Mr Miller on the proper trail out as we
need him at Penns so we can get into the Sportsmans Club good food for sure
might join my own self ifn youse is gonna keep Mr. Miller lost all the time


Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick

Jeff Miller
October 10th, 2003, 02:17 AM
though you've rewrit the odyssean event in critical parts, especially as
concerns my heroic efforts assisting you in catching some fish and in
extracting us from a certain wet and dark injury, it surely was pleasant
and productive fishing in beautiful surroundings.

btw, the last fish of the day - a 13" blue ridge wild brown - was caught
on a fly i acquired in montana while at another roff gathering.

jeff

ps - send rod tube to 2510 east tenth street, greenville, nc 27858. thanks!!

Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:

> It was Sunday mornin', Oct. 5, 2003--I think?-- that I approached Mr. Jeff
> Miller. I said, "I sure am glad to see ya, as I need a fishin' buddy that
> can hike into some difficult to get to waters" (or words to that effect).
> Not knockin' anyone at the 'Clave, at all, but the waters I like to fish can
> be difficult at best and down right dangerous for some--myself
> included!--but Mr. Miller is, shall I say, expendable. Knowin' Jeff's
> penchant for fishin' the more remote stretches of wild trout waters in our
> fine state, I figured that we'd be in agreement on just about any stream.
>
> Well Mr. Miller says, "I figure we'd fish from the ***** Trail to the
> falls." Jeff goes on to say that the had fished that very same stretch
> before. So I say, "GREAT!" We agreed that we'd head out on Wed. morning.
> Plannin' complete.
>
> I arrived at the campgrounds at about 7:15 AM on Wed. morn, after a hard
> Tuesday of *hiking* durin' the day and drinkin' durin' the eve (another
> story, for another time that no one wants to hear). After havin' a
> complimentary cup of coffee, I was asked whether I was going to jaw or fish?
> I beat a hasty retreat for my truck, and we were off up the mountain. We
> dropped Jeff's truck at the take-out and proceeded to the put-in. We
> arrived streamside around eightish or so. Jeff began catchin' fish right
> away on a dry fly--don't recall the name though. I had tied on a fairly
> bushy thing that didn't seem to impress the trout. I tied on another fly
> and still no trout, and Mr. Miller continued to catch fish at will. Finally
> Mr. Miller suggested that I tie on a parachute Adams. The parachute Adams
> was going to be my next choice, but I decided to let Mr. Miller believe that
> he had pick out the perfect fly for me. Now we were both catchin' fish, and
> in just about ever pool, riffle, run and ....
>
> We were catchin' rainbows and browns, just one after another. I was
> constantly changin' flys, as the parachute Adams was destroyed over time and
> I had caught a number of trees too. I am very thankful that I practice
> catch and release, as I doubt that I could have gotten all them trees in
> just one creel. Most of the trout, caught, were in the six to nine inch
> range, but Jeff seemed to be missin' a great many trophy size trout. I
> never saw any of them mind ya, but accordin' to Jeff, "damn! that was a big
> one too!" If Jeff had caught all the fish that he missed, he'd have had a
> Guinness World's Record for certain. Regardless he is a legend and nemesis
> to the trout the world over.
>
> Well enuff about Jeff's prowess as a trout stalker, let me just fill y'all
> in on his knowledge of streams. If Jeff ever says, "lets fish up to the
> falls." Run far, run fast! That worthless no account don't know a falls
> from spittle. We had fish a goodly part of the day, congradulatin' one
> another on the choice of stream, fish caught, selection of fishin' partners,
> choice of gum chewed, music, beer, more beer, women conquered, and just
> about anything else that came to mind. It's amazin' how chummy fellas can
> get, when catchin' one trout after another all day long. Jeff wondered out
> loud several times how far we might be from the falls, but as I had never
> fished this stretch of water that far up I hadn't a clue, and neither did
> MR. MILLER! We came to a beautiful pool and after Jeff had taken about ten
> fish from it he said, "I believe the falls are just around the next bend."
> (or words to that effect) I stated that I didn't think so, because I had
> been to the falls before--just not via this particular route--and this
> water--well actually the size of the rocks, or should a say, more
> accurately, the boulders!-- didn't look anything like the the falls I had
> been to. We got around the bend and Jeff says, "there they are." And I
> say, "there what are? The falls Jeff says. We were lookin' at a cascade of
> water over a couple of very large rocks--note: very large rocks should
> never be confused with extremely large BOULDERS! Very large rocks are the
> size of a Chevy Suburban, or even a small house, but extremely large
> BOULDERS are the size of two and three story buildings, if not gi-normouser.
>
> Needless to say, we are both a bit perplexed, not knowin' exactly how much
> further we must travel before we actually reach the *real* falls. For some
> reason Jeff's got it into his head that we would know the trail out by the
> appearance of one particularly large boulder on the left-side of the stream
> and a pool that held a large rock in the middle that lesbians like to neck
> on during the warm summer months. I have no idea where he got this notion,
> but I must say it didn't sound all that bad to me. I kept searchin' the
> stream for the island of Lesbo, all for naught though. Eventually, it
> became abundantly clear, if we were going to know that we had arrived at the
> take-out trail by identifying *one* particularly large boulder, we were in
> serious trouble. Apparently, one of us was confused about the location of
> this particularly large boulder, and it was finally determined that *that*
> boulder was actually down the stream from where we had put-in (I can't
> reveal which of us was confused, but I bet Jeff will have somethin' to say
> on the subject, eventually).
>
> It was gettin' late and Jeff, being afraid of the dark, was anxious to get
> back to his truck. Around 4:30 PM we decided to just hike on up stream and
> find the falls. We came to some gi-normous BOULDERS. We had to climb
> mountain ridges just to get around many of these impediments to forward
> progress. Jeff asked, " do ya think there are any more of these we'll have
> to climb over?" I said, "**** IF I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!" We got over the next
> gi-normous BOULDER and as far as the eye could see past the next GI-NORMOUS
> BOULDER was another GI-NORNOUS BOULDER! We past up some of the most
> beautiful water that I have ever laid eyes on, but we didn't dare stop to
> fish, for fear that no-light would close-in around us. Well no-light was
> closin' in fast! I told Jeff that I would hike up the ridge a bit and see
> if I could find a trail. Jeff, fearin' that I was about to abandon him
> began sobbin' uncontrollably. I promised not to leave him and that I would
> be back in a minute or two. I told him just to fish the pretty pool in
> front of him. That was like placin' a pacifier in his mouth. Jeff went to
> castin' and I went off in search of a dream. Eureka! There was a trail,
> but unfortunately, it led right back to the stream of BOULDERS! I boulder
> hopped back down the stream to just above Jeff and made bear noises. Jeff
> promptly pulled a 13 or so inch trout from the water and said, "did ya find
> the trail?" I replied in the negative and Jeff hoisted his trout for me to
> see. "Yeah, that's great Jeff. Now, let's get the **** outta here!" We
> finally climbed to the top of this lithosphereic growth and I thought that I
> recognized the falls. I was so relieved, until I realized that it was just
> another very large section of exposed bedrock with water flowing from the
> top to the bottom. We, finally, decided on which side of the really big
> rock we would climb, and proceeded up.
>
> Standin' on the top I happend to recognize my whereabouts. We were at the
> take-out! I was so thankful, until we began the climb out of the GORGE!
> Jeff remark that the only thing he could see on the way out was the white
> cap on the water-bottle I was guardin' with the last ounce of strength I
> possessed. Of course Jeff was wearin' a pair of sunglasses, go figure? I
> would recount our ever step up the switch-back trail, it was painful enuff
> the first time that I just can't bear to go over it again. I'd also tell ya
> how I had left my headlights on all day and returned to a dead battery, then
> I could tell ya how I had a voice mail message from my boss that said I
> needed to be in at work by 6:00 AM in the morn and that when I got out to my
> truck this morn that I had left the dome light on all night and the battery
> was dead again, or how I found Mr. Millers rod tube in the back of the truck
> this morn while lookin' for the jumper cables, or that I am now workin' 12
> hour days and won't be able to attend the rest of the 'Clave, but that would
> just bring tears to too many eyes. It did mine!
>
> Op --Jeff call me and I will mail your rod tube back to ya. BTW, I'm
> stickin' to my version of the daze events, unless Mr. Miller threatens
> litigation!--
>
>
>
>

Tim J.
October 10th, 2003, 03:00 AM
"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote...
> It was Sunday mornin', Oct. 5, 2003--I think?
<snip>

That was a fun story. It was a story, right? :)
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

bruiser
October 10th, 2003, 06:15 AM
Great report. I can relate to boulders and gorges.

C'mon Jeff and tell us what MT fly it was!

bruce h

Roger Ohlund
October 10th, 2003, 07:51 AM
"Guyz-N-Flyz" > wrote in message
.. .
> It was Sunday mornin', Oct. 5, 2003--I think

That was a fun read!
Thanks!

/Roger

Russell
October 10th, 2003, 03:30 PM
Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:
<some supub snipage>

Great TR, Op. Thanks.

Russell

walt winter
October 10th, 2003, 10:49 PM
Guyz-N-Flyz wrote: <wonderful tale snipped>

i tried to warn you guyz.... ;-)

--wally... hopin' SWL doesn't mean "shoot wally low"

woody osborne
October 11th, 2003, 04:25 AM
walt winter > wrote in message >...

you know work sure can get in the way of a good time. i have missed
the clave this year(pretty frustrated) but look forward to next
clave. hope all had a great time. woody n hickory-and bristol,
johnson city, kingsport, cary, atlanta, chattanooga, knoxville, etc,
etc, ad infinitum but not optimist park :(

Ann H. Burt
October 12th, 2003, 12:47 AM
"Jeff Miller" > wrote in message
news:GQnhb.51893$AH4.51210@lakeread06...
> though you've rewrit the odyssean event in critical parts, especially as
> concerns my heroic efforts assisting you in catching some fish and in
> extracting us from a certain wet and dark injury, it surely was pleasant
> and productive fishing in beautiful surroundings.

Yeah, I was a bit worried that I'd have to relieve ya of your raincoat, if
we had gotten stuck in there overnight. Other than that, I was purty well
satisfied with the day myself!

> btw, the last fish of the day - a 13" blue ridge wild brown - was caught
> on a fly i acquired in montana while at another roff gathering.

Yeah, yeah! You fished while I risked life and limb tryin' to find us away
to safety.

> jeff
>
> ps - send rod tube to 2510 east tenth street, greenville, nc 27858.
thanks!!

I'll get it in the mail in the next few days.

What's the date for the next death fish?

Op --I can't wait to go back in and fish the pools we missed.--

Ann H. Burt
October 12th, 2003, 12:50 AM
"walt winter" > wrote in message
...
> Guyz-N-Flyz wrote: <wonderful tale snipped>
>
> i tried to warn you guyz.... ;-)

No you didn't! You said, "I sure wish I could join you fellers, but I have
to count my Q-Tips today."

> --wally... hopin' SWL doesn't mean "shoot wally low"

Naw, its an acronym for Tim's list. SWL=SomeWhat Long

Ann H. Burt
October 12th, 2003, 12:52 AM
"Mike" > wrote in message
...
> Great Report.....Glad to see you got Mr Miller on the proper trail out as
we
> need him at Penns so we can get into the Sportsmans Club good food for
sure
> might join my own self ifn youse is gonna keep Mr. Miller lost all the
time
>
>
> Handyman Mike
> Standing in a river waving a stick

Now you know Mr. Miller is always safe with me, Mike! I still owe him, and
Wolfie.

Op

Ann H. Burt
October 12th, 2003, 12:54 AM
"Tim J." > wrote in message
. net...
>
> "Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote...
> > It was Sunday mornin', Oct. 5, 2003--I think?
> <snip>
>
> That was a fun story. It was a story, right? :)
> --
> TL,
> Tim

I don't tell stories Tim, though I have been known to lie like a dog. You
need to come join us sometime on a death march and fishin' trip.

Op

Ann H. Burt
October 12th, 2003, 12:55 AM
"bruiser" > wrote in message
...
> Great report. I can relate to boulders and gorges.
>
> C'mon Jeff and tell us what MT fly it was!
>
> bruce h

bruiser, if Jeff won't tell, I sure as hell will! It was some sort of
Tarantula concoction. Scared the hell out of me, just lookin' at it.

Op

Jeff Miller
October 12th, 2003, 02:46 AM
Ann H. Burt, the fisherman formerly called op, wrote:

>
> What's the date for the next death fish?
>
> Op --I can't wait to go back in and fish the pools we missed.--
>
>

still recovering from last week, so too early to make plans, but i sure
want to do that stretch again - will probably have to wait until next
spring though as the cold weather and shorter days will be here soon.

btw, wally claims he and scott cunningham and chad fished that same
stretch in a day. he also says there is a trail along the stream. did
you see one and forget to tell me? <g>

jeff

rw
October 12th, 2003, 03:13 AM
Ann H. Burt wrote:
> "bruiser" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Great report. I can relate to boulders and gorges.
>>
>>C'mon Jeff and tell us what MT fly it was!
>>
>>bruce h
>
>
> bruiser, if Jeff won't tell, I sure as hell will! It was some sort of
> Tarantula concoction. Scared the hell out of me, just lookin' at it.

I know exactly what fly you're talking about. It's a tan foam hopper. I
bought about a dozen of them and gave most of them to bruiser for his
guided trips on upper Rock Creek. (Fantastic fishing.) He owes me some
San Juan flies for that! :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Tim J.
October 12th, 2003, 04:01 AM
"Ann H. Burt" wrote...
>
> "walt winter" wrote...
> > Guyz-N-Flyz wrote: <wonderful tale snipped>
> >
> > i tried to warn you guyz.... ;-)
>
> No you didn't! You said, "I sure wish I could join you fellers, but I have
> to count my Q-Tips today."
>
> > --wally... hopin' SWL doesn't mean "shoot wally low"
>
> Naw, its an acronym for Tim's list. SWL=SomeWhat Long

Bzzzzzzzzt - foul! "Somewhat" being one word, SWL doesn't qualify. You're just
going to have to think out your acronyms more carefully if you want to make it
to the elite list. :)
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

Charlie Choc
October 12th, 2003, 02:09 PM
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:13:38 -0700, rw
> wrote:

>Ann H. Burt wrote:
>> bruiser, if Jeff won't tell, I sure as hell will! It was some sort of
>> Tarantula concoction. Scared the hell out of me, just lookin' at it.
>
>I know exactly what fly you're talking about. It's a tan foam hopper.

I think it's a Turck's Tarantula. I seem to remember Jeff showing me
some out west. FWIW
--
Charlie...

Guyz-N-Flyz
October 12th, 2003, 02:25 PM
"Tim J." > wrote in message
news:eu3ib.736136$YN5.660994@sccrnsc01...
>
> Bzzzzzzzzt - foul! "Somewhat" being one word, SWL doesn't qualify. You're
just
> going to have to think out your acronyms more carefully if you want to
make it
> to the elite list. :)
> --
> TL,
> Tim

That's alright, you worthless piece-o-gutterscum. See if I ever take you on
a death-march fishin' trip!

Op --the very disappointed--

Guyz-N-Flyz
October 12th, 2003, 02:30 PM
"Jeff Miller" > wrote in message
news:Oq2ib.58085$AH4.28842@lakeread06...
> still recovering from last week, so too early to make plans, but i sure
> want to do that stretch again - will probably have to wait until next
> spring though as the cold weather and shorter days will be here soon.

I may try to get someone to drop me off and fish it by myself before winter
sets in. However, Spring sounds good also!

> btw, wally claims he and scott cunningham and chad fished that same
> stretch in a day. he also says there is a trail along the stream. did
> you see one and forget to tell me? <g>

Havin' had one person tell me that they had fished that stretch already,
that hadn't actually (not mentionin' any names--Jeff), I am hesitant to
accept the word of anyone else. When I see it, I will believe it.

Op --no longer hidin' behind his mother's name--

>
> jeff

Guyz-N-Flyz
October 12th, 2003, 02:35 PM
"rw" > wrote in message
. ..
> I know exactly what fly you're talking about. It's a tan foam hopper. I
> bought about a dozen of them and gave most of them to bruiser for his
> guided trips on upper Rock Creek. (Fantastic fishing.) He owes me some
> San Juan flies for that! :-)

I couldn't say one way or the other, but it didn't look like no hopper to
me, as it had eight legs and six eyes that actually worked. Personally, I
think Jeff was fishin' live bait, as that is the only way I can reconcile
his ability to catch the big fish of the day.

Op --back to paintin' mother's house, AGAIN!--

bruiser
October 12th, 2003, 05:20 PM
"Charlie Choc" and "RW" wrote a little about the foam rubberlegs flies that
work so well....

It was CC that tipped me to the foam bugs early in the week at Rock Creek
and we really had good luck with them. They pretty much work anywhere and
even sometimes in the "selective feeding" situations. I had never liked
dries with rubber legs before that trip but since then I've been all over
them. They're the best ever for low maintenance hopper/dropper fishing
since you never really need to dry or add floatant or dessicant to a big
foam dry.

bruce h

Jeff Miller
October 12th, 2003, 10:15 PM
no foam on this one. it had gray mottled rubber legs, white thread body
with red butt, gray parachute hackles, elk hair caddis-like wing, and
white calf hair post on about a size 8 hook... i put it on as a joke
since we had caught so damn many fish that day on size 14 parachute
adams and ehc. a big brown (13" is a big wild fish here) came up from
the deep to nail it. last fish of the day and of the trip for me...it
was also the last one opie saw that day <g>. very pleasant... <g>

jeff

bruiser wrote:
> "Charlie Choc" and "RW" wrote a little about the foam rubberlegs flies that
> work so well....
>
> It was CC that tipped me to the foam bugs early in the week at Rock Creek
> and we really had good luck with them. They pretty much work anywhere and
> even sometimes in the "selective feeding" situations. I had never liked
> dries with rubber legs before that trip but since then I've been all over
> them. They're the best ever for low maintenance hopper/dropper fishing
> since you never really need to dry or add floatant or dessicant to a big
> foam dry.
>
> bruce h
>
>

Tim J.
October 13th, 2003, 12:53 PM
"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote...
> "Tim J." wrote...
> >
> > Bzzzzzzzzt - foul! "Somewhat" being one word, SWL doesn't qualify. You're
> just
> > going to have to think out your acronyms more carefully if you want to
> make it
> > to the elite list. :)
>
> That's alright, you worthless piece-o-gutterscum.

I've been called worse. Hell, I've BEEN worse, but at least I've never been
called "Ann". ;-)

> See if I ever take you on
> a death-march fishin' trip!

Tim don't do death marches, although I do look forward to a Nawth Cakalakian
fishing trip in the not-to-distant future.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

Guyz-N-Flyz
October 13th, 2003, 11:25 PM
"Jeff Miller" > wrote in message
news:5zjib.62317$AH4.41019@lakeread06...


>...it was also the last one opie saw that day <g>. very pleasant... <g>
>
> jeff

That is so sad! I *GIVE* to you the last pool of the day, while I risk life
and limb huntin' a trail out, and YOU have the audacity to rub my face in
It? How dare you....you.........you.....lawyer! Just remember, we pan to
make that trip again one day, and the next time I ain't bringin' no water
bottles with white caps and I ain't speakin' to ya after dark, and we park
my truck in the falls parkin' lot. We'll see who makes it all the way out
then!

Op --oh yeah, remember too that I still got your rod tube. Next post:
Think Conciliatory; 3 : PACIFY, CONCILIATE; especially : to buy off (an
aggressor) by concessions usually at the sacrifice of principles.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=appease--

Guyz-N-Flyz
October 13th, 2003, 11:39 PM
"Tim J." > wrote in message
...
> I've been called worse. Hell, I've BEEN worse, but at least I've never
been
> called "Ann". ;-)

Hush your filthy pig-mouth! That's my mommies name you are besmirching.
Besides, Jeff is gonna pay dearly for that little jab at me.

> Tim don't do death marches, although I do look forward to a Nawth
Cakalakian
> fishing trip in the not-to-distant future.

Aw hell, death marches ain't so bad, if ya just know where your
headed...............................eventually.

Op --lookin' forward to showin' ya some pretty water. Just be sure to
bring your GPS!~^)

> --
> TL,
> Tim

Jeff Miller
October 14th, 2003, 12:16 AM
Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:

>
> Op --lookin' forward to showin' ya some pretty water. Just be sure to
> bring your GPS!~^)
>
....and your flashlight, waterproof matches, fryin pan, tent, sleeping
bag, flares, bear spray, ear plugs, pitons, hammer, breadcrumbs ... you
get my drift? ...and when he starts talking about the bigger boulders
in the stream tim... pitch the tent.

jeff

>
>>--
>>TL,
>>Tim
>
>
>

Guyz-N-Flyz
October 14th, 2003, 12:31 AM
"Jeff Miller" > wrote in message
news:sqGib.67488$AH4.7377@lakeread06...
>
>
> Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:
>
> >
> > Op --lookin' forward to showin' ya some pretty water. Just be sure to
> > bring your GPS!~^)
> >
> ...and your flashlight, waterproof matches, fryin pan, tent, sleeping
> bag, flares, bear spray, ear plugs, pitons, hammer, breadcrumbs ... you
> get my drift? ...and when he starts talking about the bigger boulders
> in the stream tim... pitch the tent.
>
> jeff

This ain't helpin' your case none counselor!

Op --givin' time, I WILL help you correct this problem you have with your
memory--

Peter Charles
October 14th, 2003, 01:06 AM
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:16:22 -0400, Jeff Miller
> wrote:

>
>
>Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:
>
>>
>> Op --lookin' forward to showin' ya some pretty water. Just be sure to
>> bring your GPS!~^)
>>
>...and your flashlight, waterproof matches, fryin pan, tent, sleeping
>bag, flares, bear spray, ear plugs, pitons, hammer, breadcrumbs ... you
>get my drift? ...and when he starts talking about the bigger boulders
>in the stream tim... pitch the tent.


LOL, I knew the truth will out . . .

Peter

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Tim J.
October 14th, 2003, 01:51 AM
"Jeff Miller" wrote...
>
> Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:
> >
> > Op --lookin' forward to showin' ya some pretty water. Just be sure to
> > bring your GPS!~^)
> >
> ...and your flashlight, waterproof matches, fryin pan, tent, sleeping
> bag, flares, bear spray, ear plugs, pitons, hammer, breadcrumbs ... you
> get my drift? ...and when he starts talking about the bigger boulders
> in the stream tim... pitch the tent.

It sounds like a good time to pitch the tent would be before he starts talking
about anything.
--
TL,
Tim
"Have a good walk, Op. See ya when you get back."
http://css.sbcma.com/timj