Fishing Vest for an Infant

[Sideshow]

My friends recently gave birth (well, actually, she did) to a little
boy. I am looking for an infant's size fishing vest as a gift. Any
ideas? I have tried LLBean, Orvis, Cabellas and Bass Pro Shop (hey, no
flames there, please, smallies on a 4wt is FUN!)along with multiple
websites. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

[Ken Fortenberry]

Sideshow wrote:

> My friends recently gave birth (well, actually, she did) to a little
> boy. I am looking for an infant's size fishing vest as a gift. ...

Why would anyone manufacture a fishing vest for an infant ? If the
newborn were a girl would you be shopping for an infant sized tutu ?
Makes about as much sense.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[riverman]

"Sideshow" > wrote in message
om...
> My friends recently gave birth (well, actually, she did) to a little
> boy. I am looking for an infant's size fishing vest as a gift. Any
> ideas? I have tried LLBean, Orvis, Cabellas and Bass Pro Shop (hey, no
> flames there, please, smallies on a 4wt is FUN!)along with multiple
> websites. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

I think you'd be better off just making one. The kid'll outgrow it in a
matter of weeks, anyway.

Nice idea, though. <g>

--riverman

[Tim J.]

"Sideshow" wrote...
> My friends recently gave birth (well, actually, she did) to a little
> boy. I am looking for an infant's size fishing vest as a gift. Any
> ideas? I have tried LLBean, Orvis, Cabellas and Bass Pro Shop (hey, no
> flames there, please, smallies on a 4wt is FUN!)along with multiple
> websites. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

I have no idea where you'd find such a thing, but it would make one heck of a
good gift idea. They make miniature baseball and football jerseys, so why not
fishing vests? My guess is you'll have to get this made by a seamstress.

The hard part is going to be tying the #40 Royal Wulffs. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Charlie Choc]

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:39:55 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> wrote:

>Sideshow wrote:
>
>> My friends recently gave birth (well, actually, she did) to a little
>> boy. I am looking for an infant's size fishing vest as a gift. ...
>
>Why would anyone manufacture a fishing vest for an infant ? If the
>newborn were a girl would you be shopping for an infant sized tutu ?
>Makes about as much sense.

Or as much sense as this: http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3F525C36
--
Charlie...

[Paul Goodwin]

"Sideshow" > wrote in message
om...
> My friends recently gave birth (well, actually, she did) to a little
> boy. I am looking for an infant's size fishing vest as a gift. Any
> ideas? I have tried LLBean, Orvis, Cabellas and Bass Pro Shop (hey, no
> flames there, please, smallies on a 4wt is FUN!)along with multiple
> websites. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.


I don't know about a vest but Cabela's has camo wear for babies.

[Tim J.]

"Charlie Choc" wrote...
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>
> >Sideshow wrote:
> >
> >> My friends recently gave birth (well, actually, she did) to a little
> >> boy. I am looking for an infant's size fishing vest as a gift. ...
> >
> >Why would anyone manufacture a fishing vest for an infant ? If the
> >newborn were a girl would you be shopping for an infant sized tutu ?
> >Makes about as much sense.
>
> Or as much sense as this: http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3F525C36

<SPLORK!>

You just know you're getting a FYC for *that* one!
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Stan Gula]

"Paul Goodwin" > wrote in message
...
>
> I don't know about a vest but Cabela's has camo wear for babies.
>

"I put that baby down right over there and now I can find him!" Kinda seems
like an unfair advantage for hide-and-seek games.

They also have camo vests for your hunting dogs. The hunter's orange ones
make more sense to me.

[Ken Fortenberry]

Charlie Choc wrote:
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>>Sideshow wrote:
>>
>>> ... I am looking for an infant's size fishing vest as a gift. ...
>>
>>Why would anyone manufacture a fishing vest for an infant ? ...
>
> Or as much sense as this: http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3F525C36

Huh ? Infants actually wear rompers, those snaps up and down the legs
are a dead giveaway as to the utility of that piece of clothing, the
logo is just a bonus. What on earth is a fishing vest good for, other
than a silly photo op reminiscent of putting reindeer antlers on the
dog at Christmastime ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

[riverman]

"Charlie Choc" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:39:55 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> > wrote:
>
> >Sideshow wrote:
> >
> >> My friends recently gave birth (well, actually, she did) to a little
> >> boy. I am looking for an infant's size fishing vest as a gift. ...
> >
> >Why would anyone manufacture a fishing vest for an infant ? If the
> >newborn were a girl would you be shopping for an infant sized tutu ?
> >Makes about as much sense.
>
> Or as much sense as this: http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3F525C36

Personally, I get a kick out of the running shoes for infants.

But this site has fishing vests for toddlers (2-3 yo)
http://www.mysistersstore.com/vests_jackets.htm
And THIS site has miniature fly fishing gear for dolls. It might not fit the
kid, but its pretty cool tiny stuff! http://www.dolldesigns.com/dolls.html

But on the practical side, what about this?
http://www.toyworld2.com/detail.php?PID=1222
or this?
http://www.kidsquartersonline.com/gone_fishing_ensemble_infant%20price.htm

--riverman
(spending way too much time on this one...)

[Charlie Choc]

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:29:19 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> wrote:

>Huh ? Infants actually wear rompers,

Infants actually wear whatever someone puts on them.
--
Charlie...

[riverman]

"Charlie Choc" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:29:19 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> > wrote:
>
> >Huh ? Infants actually wear rompers,
>
> Infants actually wear whatever someone puts on them.
> --

2 point reversal: Fortenberry.

--riverman

[Tim J.]

"riverman" wrote...
<snip>
>
> But this site has fishing vests for toddlers (2-3 yo)
> http://www.mysistersstore.com/vests_jackets.htm
> And THIS site has miniature fly fishing gear for dolls. It might not fit the
> kid, but its pretty cool tiny stuff! http://www.dolldesigns.com/dolls.html
>
> But on the practical side, what about this?
> http://www.toyworld2.com/detail.php?PID=1222
> or this?
> http://www.kidsquartersonline.com/gone_fishing_ensemble_infant%20price.htm

The fishing must be *really* slow in Kinshasa. :)
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[riverman]

"Tim J." > wrote in message
...
>
> "riverman" wrote...
> <snip>
> >
> > But this site has fishing vests for toddlers (2-3 yo)
> > http://www.mysistersstore.com/vests_jackets.htm
> > And THIS site has miniature fly fishing gear for dolls. It might not fit
the
> > kid, but its pretty cool tiny stuff!
http://www.dolldesigns.com/dolls.html
> >
> > But on the practical side, what about this?
> > http://www.toyworld2.com/detail.php?PID=1222
> > or this?
> >
http://www.kidsquartersonline.com/gone_fishing_ensemble_infant%20price.htm
>
> The fishing must be *really* slow in Kinshasa. :)


Actually, its too *fast*. Every time I've tried to cast on the big river,
the current sweeps my fly past me faster than I can possibly mend. I get
about 2 seconds of deaddrift, then its below me washed up on the rocks. And
the hordes of people who come around asking for money is just too tiresome
to make it worthwhile...thanks for reminding me. All I have left now is my
endless searches for baby fishing clothes......sniff.....

--riverman
(I gotta get out more.)

[George Cleveland]

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:50:26 +0100, "riverman" > wrote:

>
>"Tim J." > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "riverman" wrote...
>> <snip>
>> >
>> > But this site has fishing vests for toddlers (2-3 yo)
>> > http://www.mysistersstore.com/vests_jackets.htm
>> > And THIS site has miniature fly fishing gear for dolls. It might not fit
>the
>> > kid, but its pretty cool tiny stuff!
>http://www.dolldesigns.com/dolls.html
>> >
>> > But on the practical side, what about this?
>> > http://www.toyworld2.com/detail.php?PID=1222
>> > or this?
>> >
>http://www.kidsquartersonline.com/gone_fishing_ensemble_infant%20price.htm
>>
>> The fishing must be *really* slow in Kinshasa. :)
>
>
>Actually, its too *fast*. Every time I've tried to cast on the big river,
>the current sweeps my fly past me faster than I can possibly mend. I get
>about 2 seconds of deaddrift, then its below me washed up on the rocks. And
>the hordes of people who come around asking for money is just too tiresome
>to make it worthwhile...thanks for reminding me. All I have left now is my
>endless searches for baby fishing clothes......sniff.....
>
>--riverman
>(I gotta get out more.)
>
>
Either that or get a transfer to new post. Perhaps they could use you near the
banks or the Miramichi or the Skagit.

g.c.

[riverman]

"George Cleveland" > wrote in message
...

> >
> >Actually, its too *fast*. Every time I've tried to cast on the big river,
> >the current sweeps my fly past me faster than I can possibly mend. I get
> >about 2 seconds of deaddrift, then its below me washed up on the rocks.
And
> >the hordes of people who come around asking for money is just too
tiresome
> >to make it worthwhile...thanks for reminding me. All I have left now is
my
> >endless searches for baby fishing clothes......sniff.....
> >
> >--riverman
> >(I gotta get out more.)
> >
> >
> Either that or get a transfer to new post. Perhaps they could use you near
the
> banks or the Miramichi or the Skagit.
>

One more year here, at the very most. My girlfriend is definately staying,
as her son is starting his senior year next year, but I'm <heavily>
considering taking a year off and just fishing, rowing boats, doing canoe
trips, re-roofing my house, and living like a bum around the western US and
Canada. Although I did that pretty successfully for about 15 years in my 20s
and early 30s, its scary to consider doing it again now, in my mid 40s. I
know I'd love it if I did, but there's a lot of fear connected with starting
the year without a signed work contract, no matter how bad it is for your
soul. And the social ramifications of being a 45-year old vagabond is not at
all the same as being a 25-year old professional river guide (which is
really the same thing).

Funny hearing me talk about 'fear', eh?

--riverman
(skeered sheetliss)

[Dave LaCourse]

Stan Gula writes:

>They also have camo vests for your hunting dogs. The hunter's orange ones
>make more sense to me.

We just abought Henry a blaze orange vest for our trips to East Outlet
(Kennebec). With all the deer in our back yard, I wouldn't be surprised if
some rogue doesn't shoot them. Henry chases the deer with his vest on ---
great fun for him.

[Dave LaCourse]

Ken Fortenberry writes:

>Huh ? Infants actually wear rompers, those snaps up and down the legs
>are a dead giveaway as to the utility of that piece of clothing, the
>logo is just a bonus. What on earth is a fishing vest good for, other
>than a silly photo op reminiscent of putting reindeer antlers on the
>dog at Christmastime ?
>
>--

You really don't have a clue, do you?

[George]

I've seen them at Bob Marriott's Fly Shop (southern Cal).

"Sideshow" > wrote in message
om...
> My friends recently gave birth (well, actually, she did) to a little
> boy. I am looking for an infant's size fishing vest as a gift. Any
> ideas? I have tried LLBean, Orvis, Cabellas and Bass Pro Shop (hey, no
> flames there, please, smallies on a 4wt is FUN!)along with multiple
> websites. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

[Wayne Harrison]

"Sideshow" > wrote in message
om...
> My friends recently gave birth (well, actually, she did) to a little
> boy. I am looking for an infant's size fishing vest as a gift. Any
> ideas? I have tried LLBean, Orvis, Cabellas and Bass Pro Shop (hey, no
> flames there, please, smallies on a 4wt is FUN!)along with multiple
> websites. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

alicesrestaurant.com.

oh, and you're right about the smallies.

wayno

[Ken Fortenberry]

Dave LaCourse wrote:

> Ken Fortenberry writes:
>>... a silly photo op reminiscent of putting reindeer antlers on the
>>dog at Christmastime ?
>
> You really don't have a clue, do you?

Oh good grief, don't tell me you put reindeer antlers on Henry.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Dave LaCourse]

Ken Fortenberry writes:

>Oh good grief, don't tell me you put reindeer antlers on Henry

Of course not, but you stilldon't have a clue.

[Ken Fortenberry]

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> Ken Fortenberry writes:
>
>>Oh good grief, don't tell me you put reindeer antlers on Henry
>
> Of course not, but you stilldon't have a clue.

It's awfully nice of you to post that.

Thanks.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Dave LaCourse]

Ken Fortenberry writes:

>It's awfully nice of you to post that.
>

Thank you. That's the nicest post you've made (other than the loosing Illini
posts) in a very long time.

>Thanks.

You're welcome.

[Sideshow]

Mr. Fortenberry, with all due respect that is a very sexist statement.
Both his wife and mine are avid flyfishers. If you understood it, from
my post, that only boys and men can flyfish, then I am sorry for your
misunderstanding. Yes, I thought it would be a nice gift. But, then
again, why should infants have any clothing at all, they are just
going to grow out of it in a few weeks/months. Babies should be
clothed in blankets only! Just think of the damage we could do to the
entire baby clothing industry. Please, sir, try the decaf.

[Russell]

Sideshow wrote:

> Mr. Fortenberry, with all due respect that is a very sexist statement.
> Both his wife and mine are avid flyfishers. If you understood it, from
> my post, that only boys and men can flyfish, then I am sorry for your
> misunderstanding. Yes, I thought it would be a nice gift. But, then
> again, why should infants have any clothing at all, they are just
> going to grow out of it in a few weeks/months. Babies should be
> clothed in blankets only! Just think of the damage we could do to the
> entire baby clothing industry. Please, sir, try the decaf.


Uh, oh . . .

Russell

Pullin' up a chair.

[Sideshow]

Riverman, Tim J, George, and Wayne- Thank you.

If I do find one, I will probably buy a bit large to grow into.

And those #40 RW's had better be barbless or there will be hell to pay, I'm sure.

[Ken Fortenberry]

Sideshow wrote:

> ... If you understood it, from
> my post, that only boys and men can flyfish, then I am sorry for your
> misunderstanding.

Apology accepted.

> Yes, I thought it would be a nice gift. ...

I think it's a stupid, too, too, cutesy gift, and that was my point.

Welcome to roff.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Tim J.]

"Sideshow" wrote...
> Riverman, Tim J, George, and Wayne- Thank you.
>
> If I do find one, I will probably buy a bit large to grow into.
>
> And those #40 RW's had better be barbless or there will be hell to pay, I'm
sure.

Send 'em to Waldo - he's knows how to fix 'em good.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Brimbum]

The Pirate wrote:snip >We just abought Henry a blaze orange vest for our trips
to East Outlet
>(Kennebec). With all the deer in our back yard, I wouldn't be surprised if
>some rogue doesn't shoot them. Henry chases the deer with his vest on ---
>great fun for him.

Pictures please.

Big Dale

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"riverman" > wrote in message
...
> --riverman
> (spending way too much time on this one...)

Speakin' of too much time on one's hands. I just received a very timely
reply from Sen. Elizabeth Dole concerning my inquiry of her intended vote on
the overseas tax bill. Thankfully, she said that the Republicans have saved
the day and the bill was defeated in committee.

Op --Of course, Sen. John Edward's immediate reply, 4 or more months ago,
meant nothing to me!--

[Mike]

Hey Pirate
FWIW it's against the law for dogs to chase deer in the great state of
Maine if a warden catches him you won't have him any more it's a put down
offence my brother lost a Husky that way quite a few years ago........ Of
course they could have changed the law but i doubt it


Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick

[riverman]

"Guyz-N-Flyz" > wrote in message
...
>
> "riverman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > --riverman
> > (spending way too much time on this one...)
>
> Speakin' of too much time on one's hands. I just received a very timely
> reply from Sen. Elizabeth Dole concerning my inquiry of her intended vote
on
> the overseas tax bill. Thankfully, she said that the Republicans have
saved
> the day and the bill was defeated in committee.
>
> Op --Of course, Sen. John Edward's immediate reply, 4 or more months ago,
> meant nothing to me!--


Ahh, God bless those Republicans!

--riverman
(umm, is 'bless' the right word..?)

[Dave LaCourse]

Handyman writes:

>Hey Pirate
> FWIW it's against the law for dogs to chase deer in the great state of
>Maine if a warden catches him you won't have him any more it's a put down
>offence my brother lost a Husky that way quite a few years ago........ Of
>course they could have changed the law but i doubt it
>

I don't live in Maine, Mike. He smells/sees them around dusk, and off he goes.
He never gets near them - ain't much of a contest, but it makes him feel good.
He always comes back strutting with tail high.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

[Sideshow]

As far as it being a "stupid, too, too, cutesy gift," it appears that
you seem to be in the minority on this one. Yes, it would be a
frivolous gift, that would make for some good photo ops. Not all gifts
need to have a utilitarian value.
I came to this group with a question. Many posters offered help,
whereas, you,had to to put in your two cents. If you did not agree
with the item as a gift, then skip over the post. Why even bother
posting? So that your voice can be heard?
Try not to take life too seriously. Relax a bit.
And thank you for the welcome to roff.

[Ken Fortenberry]

Sideshow wrote:

> ...
> I came to this group with a question. Many posters offered help,
> whereas, you,had to to put in your two cents. If you did not agree
> with the item as a gift, then skip over the post. Why even bother
> posting? ...

If you put stupid, too, too cutesy **** here someone will point it
out and poke fun at it. Today, that someone is me. If this upsets
you, you are in the wrong newsgroup. Now quit your silly whining.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Tim J.]

"Sideshow" wrote...
> As far as it being a "stupid, too, too, cutesy gift," it appears that
> you seem to be in the minority on this one. Yes, it would be a
> frivolous gift, that would make for some good photo ops. Not all gifts
> need to have a utilitarian value.
> I came to this group with a question. Many posters offered help,
> whereas, you,had to to put in your two cents. If you did not agree
> with the item as a gift, then skip over the post. Why even bother
> posting? So that your voice can be heard?
> Try not to take life too seriously. Relax a bit.
> And thank you for the welcome to roff.

NAHAY?
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Joe Schultz]

Sideshow wrote:
> As far as it being a "stupid, too, too, cutesy gift," it appears that
> you seem to be in the minority on this one. Yes, it would be a
> frivolous gift, that would make for some good photo ops. Not all gifts
> need to have a utilitarian value.
> I came to this group with a question. Many posters offered help,
> whereas, you,had to to put in your two cents. If you did not agree
> with the item as a gift, then skip over the post. Why even bother
> posting? So that your voice can be heard?
> Try not to take life too seriously. Relax a bit.
> And thank you for the welcome to roff.

If you find a source for an infant/toddler fishing vest
pass it along. X-mas is coming up and I know a couple
kids who need gifts.

[rw]

Sideshow wrote:
> My friends recently gave birth (well, actually, she did) to a little
> boy. I am looking for an infant's size fishing vest as a gift. Any
> ideas? I have tried LLBean, Orvis, Cabellas and Bass Pro Shop (hey, no
> flames there, please, smallies on a 4wt is FUN!)along with multiple
> websites. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

http://www.mysistersstore.com/vests_jackets.htm

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[Sideshow]

> If you put stupid, too, too cutesy **** here someone will point it
> out and poke fun at it. Today, that someone is me. If this upsets
> you, you are in the wrong newsgroup. Now quit your silly whining.

I think that vein in your forehead is about to burst. You must be an
f'in blast as a fishing partner. Why do you keep reading this post if
it annoys you so much? Do you read EVERY SINGLE post to see if someone
mentions your name. I check the post because I started it. It appears
that others think such a "stupid, too, too cutesy ****" item is a good
idea.

>Today, that someone is me.

Get over yourself, Ken. You are not that important.

[Stan Gula]

"Sideshow" > wrote in message
om...
> Why do you keep reading this post if it annoys you so much?

I'll take this one...

I, and many other people, including hordes (HORDES!) of lurkers, read
*every* post because you never know when somebody will write something
witty, informative, or earth shatteringly stupid. If you wait long enough
you'll see posts way beyond stupid, meta-stupid, even trans-stupid. So
stupid your head will hurt. Condensed methane ice on Pluto rock-hard
stupid. Stooooopid. And when that happens, you'll understand.

I might ask the question, "Why do you read Ken's posts if they annoy you?
And then why do you clutter up the newsgroup with your whining?" Well,
that's reallly 2 questions.

> Do you read EVERY SINGLE post to see if someone
> mentions your name.

Nope. See above.

> I check the post because I started it. It appears
> that others think such a "stupid, too, too cutesy ****" item is a good
> idea.

Sure, that's as good a reason as any.

> Get over yourself, Ken. You are not that important.

Ahh, grasshopper. You think derogatory comments will end this eternal
flamefest. Fear not, the people who frequent this newsgroup for
entertainment will *enjoy* derogatory comments and will in fact build on
that to further the flamefest. If you want it to end, you have to pick up
toys and walk away. Nobody else can do that for you.

And before you make some snide comment to *me*, please understand that I do
not partake in flamefests and will not respond, "Sideshow". I am in fact,
just trying to be helpful, as always.
Regards,
Stan Gula

[Tim J.]

"Stan Gula" wrote...
> "Sideshow" wrote...
> > Why do you keep reading this post if it annoys you so much?
>
> I'll take this one...
<snip>
> And before you make some snide comment to *me*, please understand that I do
> not partake in flamefests and will not respond, "Sideshow". I am in fact,
> just trying to be helpful, as always.

Yeah, Stan is no fun at all.

Hey, side - check this out: http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~jcook/ROFF/
There's nothing about infant fishing vest, but there is some other info you may
find interesting.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Ken Fortenberry]

Sideshow whined out loud:
>
> ... It appears
> that others think such a "stupid, too, too cutesy ****" item is a good
> idea. ...

Look here, you anonymous, newbie nitwit, I have never cared one
whit what "others" think is or is not a "good idea". I think a
fishing vest is a stupid and too, too cutesy gift for an infant
and I don't mind saying so. If that bothers you, there's an old
roffian remedy consisting of caulk and carpet tacks that I would
be happy to prescribe.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Tim J.]

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
> Sideshow whined out loud:
> >
> > ... It appears
> > that others think such a "stupid, too, too cutesy ****" item is a good
> > idea. ...
>
> Look here, you anonymous, newbie nitwit, I have never cared one
> whit what "others" think is or is not a "good idea". I think a
> fishing vest is a stupid and too, too cutesy gift for an infant
> and I don't mind saying so. If that bothers you, there's an old
> roffian remedy consisting of caulk and carpet tacks that I would
> be happy to prescribe.

Translation:
"I am sorry, sideshow, for affecting your sensibilities so. It was not my intent
to offend, and I am normally a very amiable fellow. We each have our opinions on
matters, and yours is important to me. Please send me your mailing address so I
may show my deep concern with a box of chocolates and some household repair
supplies.

All the very best to you and yours.

Love,
Forty"

[Russell]

Tim J. wrote:

> "Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
>
>>Sideshow whined out loud:
>>
>>>... It appears
>>>that others think such a "stupid, too, too cutesy ****" item is a good
>>>idea. ...
>>
>>Look here, you anonymous, newbie nitwit, I have never cared one
>>whit what "others" think is or is not a "good idea". I think a
>>fishing vest is a stupid and too, too cutesy gift for an infant
>>and I don't mind saying so. If that bothers you, there's an old
>>roffian remedy consisting of caulk and carpet tacks that I would
>>be happy to prescribe.
>
>
> Translation:
> "I am sorry, sideshow, for affecting your sensibilities so. It was not my intent
> to offend, and I am normally a very amiable fellow. We each have our opinions on
> matters, and yours is important to me. Please send me your mailing address so I
> may show my deep concern with a box of chocolates and some household repair
> supplies.
>
> All the very best to you and yours.
>
> Love,
> Forty"
>
>

<SPLORK!>

Russell

[Sideshow]

> http://www.mysistersstore.com/vests_jackets.htm

Thank you and Tight Lines.

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"riverman" > wrote in message
...
> --riverman
> (umm, is 'bless' the right word..?)

Well they are the peacemakers, right?

Op

[Jeff Miller]

Sideshow wrote:


> I think that vein in your forehead is about to burst. You must be an
> f'in blast as a fishing partner.

actually, the illnoise ****head is a pretty good fishing partner...

> It appears
> that others think such a "stupid, too, too cutesy ****" item is a good
> idea.

proof positive no one ever went broke underestimating the taste or
gullibility of the american public...

>
> Get over yourself, Ken. You are not that important.

everywhere i go, fukkin philosophers... no one just wants to buy the
drinks and shut-up...

jeff

[Jeff Miller]

Stan Gula wrote:


> And before you make some snide comment to *me*, please understand that I do
> not partake in flamefests and will not respond, "Sideshow". I am in fact,
> just trying to be helpful, as always.
> Regards,

aw hell...now where's the fun in that?

jeff
>
>

[Kevin Vang]

In article >,
says...
>
> Translation:
> "I am sorry, sideshow,

<snip>

> Love,
> Forty"



Hey, can somebody send me a new decoder ring? I've been trying
to use mine on Forty's message, and I get something entirely
different.

Kevin

[walt winter]

Jeff Miller wrote:
> everywhere i go, fukkin philosophers... no one just wants to buy the
> drinks and shut-up...
>

ya just gotta love that gawdamn philosophy ;-)

--yer pal in the high country....

[Tim J.]

"Kevin Vang" wrote...
> Tim J. says...
> >
> > Translation:
> > "I am sorry, sideshow,
>
> <snip>
>
> > Love,
> > Forty"
>
>
> Hey, can somebody send me a new decoder ring? I've been trying
> to use mine on Forty's message, and I get something entirely
> different.

Yours is probably correct. Mine fell into some rose-colored paint (the can right
next to the caulking and carpet tacks.)
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[[email protected]]

On 17 Oct 2003 04:41:19 GMT, (Mike) wrote:

>Hey Pirate
> FWIW it's against the law for dogs to chase deer in the great state of
>Maine if a warden catches him you won't have him any more it's a put down
>offence my brother lost a Husky that way quite a few years ago........ Of
>course they could have changed the law but i doubt it
>
Pretty much the same in MN last I saw. Only for 6 months of the year,
but during those months anyone who sees a dog chasing a deer can shoot
the dog on the spot.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

[rw]

wrote:
> On 17 Oct 2003 04:41:19 GMT, (Mike) wrote:
>
>
>>Hey Pirate
>> FWIW it's against the law for dogs to chase deer in the great state of
>>Maine if a warden catches him you won't have him any more it's a put down
>>offence my brother lost a Husky that way quite a few years ago........ Of
>>course they could have changed the law but i doubt it
>>
>
> Pretty much the same in MN last I saw. Only for 6 months of the year,
> but during those months anyone who sees a dog chasing a deer can shoot
> the dog on the spot.

Dogs chasing game is a very, very big no-no just about everywhere, aside
from hunting lions. If they chase deer, they'll chase stock. And they'll
form packs, and before you know it cute little Henry will be a
bloody-toothed killing maniac, if he doesn't get run over first.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[Charlie Choc]

On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:24:25 -0400, Jeff Miller
> wrote:

>actually, the illnoise ****head is a pretty good fishing partner...
>
Well, you do mention taste and gullibility... <g>
--
Charlie...

[Dave LaCourse]

rw writes:

wrote:
>> On 17 Oct 2003 04:41:19 GMT, (Mike) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hey Pirate
>>> FWIW it's against the law for dogs to chase deer in the great state of
>>>Maine if a warden catches him you won't have him any more it's a put down
>>>offence my brother lost a Husky that way quite a few years ago........ Of
>>>course they could have changed the law but i doubt it
>>>
>>
>> Pretty much the same in MN last I saw. Only for 6 months of the year,
>> but during those months anyone who sees a dog chasing a deer can shoot
>> the dog on the spot.
>
>Dogs chasing game is a very, very big no-no just about everywhere, aside
>from hunting lions. If they chase deer, they'll chase stock. And they'll
>form packs, and before you know it cute little Henry will be a
>bloody-toothed killing maniac, if he doesn't get run over first.
>
>--

I don't know. Perhaps you're correct. Yesterday Henry and the two Bichon
Frise from down the road ran down and killed a fairly big doe. They dragged it
down our little mountain (actually it's a hill of about 3 - 4 acres) in the
back yard and began devouring it. Jo and I had to chase them away. Gawd what
a bloody mess. Rather than waste all that meat, we buried it in Jo's rose
garden -- it makes wonderful fertilizer. It took awhile to clean-up Henry.
Blood all over his beautiful golden fur. I think it was very traumatic for him
because he snarled in his sleep all night. This morning when we let "Killer"
out for his a.m. pee, there was a Shih-tzu, a Jack Russell Terrior, and another
Golden waiting for Henry (aka Killer) to lead them on to the "kill". How the
hell did the word get out that Henry was leading a pack of killer dogs?
Probably those bitch Bichon Frise.

The good news is that Henry appears to be a natural leader. Golden's don't
bark very much. He must be communicating with his pack by telepathy. We're
proud of him. I think I'll teach him to fish -- yaknow, like the grizzes do.


Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

[slenon]

>The good news is that Henry appears to be a natural leader. Golden's don't
>bark very much. He must be communicating with his pack by telepathy.
We're
>proud of him. I think I'll teach him to fish -- yaknow, like the grizzes
do.
>Dave

After you accomplish that, please send Henry to us for a vacation. Perhaps
he can teach Tova that barking is not a necessity. We'll be happy to take
Henry out and teach him to fish like cormorants.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar
Save a cow, eat a PETA

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/index.html/slhomepage92kword.htm

[Dave LaCourse]

Stev writes:

>After you accomplish that, please send Henry to us for a vacation. Perhaps
>he can teach Tova that barking is not a necessity. We'll be happy to take
>Henry out and teach him to fish like cormorants.

Well, I would..... but, are you prepared to have Tova turned into a snarling
killer of lifestock, deer, and probably people?
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

[slenon]

>Well, I would..... but, are you prepared to have Tova turned into a
snarling
>killer of lifestock, deer, and probably people?
>Dave

Why not? She's a bit of a wimpy dog as it stands. Squirrels and lizards
routinely insult her with impunity. We've lateley been graced with an
armadillo which she has failed to remove from the property. I'd like to see
how a northern dog handles one of these critters. As for people, well,
there is that problem with missionaries who persist in knocking on my door
on Saturdays.

Sure! Just send me Henry's flight numbers and we'll meet him in Tampa.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/index.html/slhomepage92kword.htm

[Dave LaCourse]

This is NOT Henry:

http://www.craponme.com/joke-show.php?ed=271&PHPSESSID=ec6b92932a9e4b01367
2a9f32e916946

[slenon]

>This is NOT Henry:

LOL!
I've never caught Tova in such a compromising situation.

She's epileptic, apparently common in Labs and Lab crossbreeds - yellow lab,
white miniature shepherd, humane society rescue - and gets dosed with
phenobarb twice a day. Lately, since the annual "get the jump on July 4th
fireworks extravaganza" that began in June and has yet to cease in our
neighborhood, the poor beast has developed a decided dislike of the
outdoors. Good thing she wasn't chosen for a hunting dog.

Still, she beats having no dog around the house.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/index.html/slhomepage92kword.htm

[[email protected]]

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:22:16 GMT, "slenon"
> wrote:


> We've lateley been graced with an
>armadillo which she has failed to remove from the property. I'd like to see
>how a northern dog handles one of these critters.

Best if she doesn't (and nobody else does) handle it. They carry some
odd disease. Leprosy comes to mind, but that seems _too_ odd.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

[[email protected]]

On 18 Oct 2003 14:03:47 GMT, (Dave LaCourse)
wrote:


>
>I don't know. Perhaps you're correct. Yesterday Henry and the two Bichon
>Frise from down the road ran down and killed a fairly big doe. They dragged it
>down our little mountain (actually it's a hill of about 3 - 4 acres) in the
>back yard and began devouring it. Jo and I had to chase them away. Gawd what
>a bloody mess. Rather than waste all that meat, we buried it in Jo's rose
>garden -- it makes wonderful fertilizer.

I thought you fly-fished mostly. How often do you troll? Must have
practiced some, because you're doing it well.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

[Dave LaCourse]

cyli writes:

>I thought you fly-fished mostly. How often do you troll? Must have
>practiced some, because you're doing it well.

It wasn't a troll. It was humor (in the form of sarcasm) to answer Barnard's
post. Don't feel so guilty.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

[slenon]

>Best if she doesn't (and nobody else does) handle it. They carry some
>odd disease. Leprosy comes to mind, but that seems _too_ odd.
>rbc:vixen

Close. The bacterium Mycobacterium leprae, which causes leprosy, can be
grown in armadillo cell line cultures and human cell lines. No other
animals share such the distinction. But there are no known cases of actual
transmission in either direction. Still, they're not terribly tasty as I
understand and until it creates more property damage, it's likely to be left
alone.


----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/index.html/slhomepage92kword.htm

[Wolfgang]

"Tim J." > wrote in message
news:YN2kb.579223$Oz4.557337@rwcrnsc54...
>
> "Kevin Vang" wrote...
> > Tim J. says...
> > >
> > > Translation:
> > > "I am sorry, sideshow,
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > Love,
> > > Forty"
> >
> >
> > Hey, can somebody send me a new decoder ring? I've been trying
> > to use mine on Forty's message, and I get something entirely
> > different.
>
> Yours is probably correct. Mine fell into some rose-colored paint (the can
right
> next to the caulking and carpet tacks.)
> --
> TL,
> Tim

Ah bull****! Ya'll just don't know how to use the damned things. You
obviously had yours set to translate messages from me, and Kevin.......well,
we can't diagnose that problem till we find out what sort of output he got.

Wolfgang
c'mon, kev, let's see what ya got. :)

[Wolfgang]

"slenon" > wrote in message
om...
> >Well, I would..... but, are you prepared to have Tova turned into a
> snarling
> >killer of lifestock, deer, and probably people?
> >Dave
>
> Why not?....

Why not indeed! Hey, there ain't enough dead people in this world......and
with both of ya'll just working from the sidelines these days we need all
the help we can get.

Wolfgang

[Kevin Vang]

In article >,
says...

> Ah bull****! Ya'll just don't know how to use the damned things. You
> obviously had yours set to translate messages from me, and Kevin.......well,
> we can't diagnose that problem till we find out what sort of output he got.
>
> Wolfgang
> c'mon, kev, let's see what ya got. :)


Hmm... I lost my hard copy, but to the best of my recollection,
it looked like instructions from a medical textbook on the use
of a proctoscope, only the part about the lubrication had been
ommitted.

Kevin,
and I'm pretty sure they don't go in sideways...

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"slenon" > wrote in message
. com...
> Still, they're not terribly tasty as I
> understand and until it creates more property damage, it's likely to be
left
> alone.
>

> Stev Lenon

Damn! I was told that armadillo was just opossum on the half-shell, and
everybody knows how tasty 'possum is.

Op --a tad greasy, but gooooood eatin', I tell ya--

[Dave LaCourse]

rw writes:

>I thought it was pretty funny.

So did I.

>
>But don't let Henry chase deer. Seriously.

Henry chases anything that runs. And, he likes to *be* chased. He never gets
near the deer - they are much quicker than he, and he is well behaved - i.e.,
he stops when I whistle.

That said, check out "Henry" at my website, or click on the thumbnail. Brutal
stuff.
>


Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

[rw]

Dave LaCourse wrote:
> cyli writes:
>
>
>>I thought you fly-fished mostly. How often do you troll? Must have
>>practiced some, because you're doing it well.
>
>
> It wasn't a troll. It was humor (in the form of sarcasm) to answer Barnard's
> post. Don't feel so guilty.

I thought it was pretty funny.

But don't let Henry chase deer. Seriously.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[Warren]

wrote...
> rw writes:
>
> >I thought it was pretty funny.
>
> So did I.

So did I, but it wasn't quite as funny as chasing deer leads to livestock
killing.
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)

[Dave LaCourse]

Warren writes:

wrote...
>> rw writes:
>>
>> >I thought it was pretty funny.
>>
>> So did I.
>
>So did I, but it wasn't quite as funny as chasing deer leads to livestock
>killing.
>--


Hey, don't trifle with Henry. Go to my site and click on the thumbnail at top.
He's a mean, lean, blood thirsty machine!
d;o)
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

[Warren]

wrote...
> Hey, don't trifle with Henry. Go to my site and click on the thumbnail at top.
> He's a mean, lean, blood thirsty machine!
> d;o)

Don't get me wrong. That *was* funny, but it wasn't as funny as "chasing deer
leads to livestock killing" IMO. I've trained several dogs to chase the deer
out of the hayfields I was working and they never killed a single piece of
livestock. The assumption that if you let a dog chase deer is a precursor to
killing livestock is about as intelligent as the assumption that everybody that
drives will eventually kill some other motorist in a DUI accident. YMMV.
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)

[Wolfgang]

"Kevin Vang" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
>
> > Ah bull****! Ya'll just don't know how to use the damned things. You
> > obviously had yours set to translate messages from me, and
Kevin.......well,
> > we can't diagnose that problem till we find out what sort of output he
got.
> >
> > Wolfgang
> > c'mon, kev, let's see what ya got. :)
>
>
> Hmm... I lost my hard copy, but to the best of my recollection,
> it looked like instructions from a medical textbook on the use
> of a proctoscope, only the part about the lubrication had been
> ommitted.
>
> Kevin,
> and I'm pretty sure they don't go in sideways...

O.K., I think I see the problem. I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings,
but that ain't a secret decoder ring you've got on your finger.........it's
a sphincter. :(

Wolfgang
be sure to use plenty of soap.......and maybe a wire brush.

[slenon]

>Why not indeed! Hey, there ain't enough dead people in this world......and
>with both of ya'll just working from the sidelines these days we need all
>the help we can get.
>Wolfgang

First, if you persist in preventing death, the population density is just
going to keep increasing until Nevada and Utah are as full of people as
Bangladesh. Do you really want to be responsible for giving the LDS church
that many more doors to knock on?

Secondly, someone or something's got to convince that damned armadillo to
leave. I've tried showing it pictures of you and Kenny but even that
doesn't scare it. So, if you object to my dog learning from Dave's then
pack your heaviest fly rod and your best armadillo flies and hop the next
plane down here. I'll pick you and your baggage up in Tampa and deliver you
directly to the armadillo's burrow. Please be sure and bring your insurance
card and any advanced health care directives you may have executed. This is
one ugly armadillo.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/index.html/slhomepage92kword.htm

[slenon]

>Damn! I was told that armadillo was just opossum on the half-shell, and
>everybody knows how tasty 'possum is.
>Op --a tad greasy, but gooooood eatin', I tell ya--

One possum was sufficient. However, if you get a brace of armadillo you can
make a pair of shoes that lasts a very long time.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/index.html/slhomepage92kword.htm

[Wolfgang]

"slenon" > wrote in message
m...
> >Why not indeed! Hey, there ain't enough dead people in this
world......and
> >with both of ya'll just working from the sidelines these days we need all
> >the help we can get.
> >Wolfgang
>
> First, if you persist in preventing death,

Hm......I am not aware of any evidence suggesting that I am engaged in
preventing death. It naturally follows that I can hardly "persist" in doing
so.

> the population density is just
> going to keep increasing until Nevada and Utah are as full of people as
> Bangladesh.

No problem.....they can move to Idaho.

> Do you really want to be responsible for giving the LDS church
> that many more doors to knock on?

As I have nothing to do with the manufacture, sales, distribution or
installation of doors, or with the religious predilections of people a
thousand miles or more removed from my residence, for that matter, I have no
control over the door knocking habits of Mormons. It is unreasonable to
assign responsibility to peopls for situations over which they have
absolutely no control. Thus, for example, neither you nor I can be held
responsible for your actions.

> Secondly, someone or something's got to convince that damned armadillo to
> leave. I've tried showing it pictures of you and Kenny but even that
> doesn't scare it.

Have you tried napalming the children who live nearby?

> So, if you object to my dog learning from Dave's

I offer no such objection. In fact, it occurs to me that if Henry is a good
teacher then perhaps both you and Dave might benefit by watching him
closely.

> then
> pack your heaviest fly rod and your best armadillo flies and hop the next
> plane down here. I'll pick you and your baggage up in Tampa and deliver
you
> directly to the armadillo's burrow. Please be sure and bring your
insurance
> card and any advanced health care directives you may have executed. This
is
> one ugly armadillo.

Thanks, I'll pass.

Wolfgang

[slenon]

Wolfgang:
>Hm......I am not aware of any evidence suggesting that I am engaged in
>preventing death. It naturally follows that I can hardly "persist" in
doing so.

No preventive health measures at all? No vaccinations, immunizations,
moderation in diet, safe sex? Well, it is your life. Terminate it as you
will.

>I have no control over the door knocking habits of Mormons. It is
unreasonable to
>assign responsibility to peopls for situations over which they have
>absolutely no control. Thus, for example, neither you nor I can be held
>responsible for your actions.

Ah, but I am responsible for those actions I choose to commit to the point
where such actions intersect with those of others beyond my control. I am
not responsible for the actions of corporations, drunks, the delusional, the
demented, and beyond my single vote, governments. I'm not sure where you
fit into that panopoly but I claim/desire no control over you and see that
you seem to lack either control or a functional delete key.

As to Mormons and doors, claymores and fugas go along way toward behavior
modification. So do images of you and Kenny. My doors are reasonably
untroubled by Mormons. Baptists are another matter.

>Have you tried napalming the children who live nearby?

Why? Do you need instruction in such matters? I can recommend a book or
two if you prefer distance learning. I can recommend distance, too. Half a
klick is safe. 10 meters is danger close. Your choice if you accept the
sanction. I consider napalm a bit extreme for a single armadillo.

>In fact, it occurs to me that if Henry is a good teacher then perhaps both
you and Dave might benefit by watching him closely.

Perhaps. But then the rest of you would exhibit signs of jealousy, feel
left out, and in the end we two would have to show the rest of you what the
dog already knows.

>Thanks, I'll pass.

OK. But I was planning on a large pot of chili to celebrate the critter's
departure. I make mine Texican style with lots of cumin, chili's and
seasonings, thick enough to support a spoon upright and strong enough to
take the silver plate off the spoon.



----
Stev
I made couscous last night, with shallots, porcini mushrooms, pignoli, and
golden raisins, cumin, cinnamon, and nutmeg. It soaked up a cilantro garlic
sauce drizzled over poule. Newcastle Brown ale here, no wine.

[Wayne Harrison]

"slenon" > wrote

> As to Mormons and doors, claymores and fugas go along way toward behavior
> modification. So do images of you and Kenny. My doors are reasonably
> untroubled by Mormons. Baptists are another matter.


well, one of the finest men i have ever met is a mormon. he wouldn't
trouble you much, if at all. he just happens to be the most improved
fisherman over a period of a couple years that i have ever seen. he has
also built a few beautiful cane rods. it is a mistake to categorize folks
by religion, as i am certain you understand.

yfitons
wayno

[Stan Gula]

"Wayne Harrison" > wrote in message
m...
> it is a mistake to categorize folks
> by religion, as i am certain you understand.

Categorization is fine and fair, it's the stigmatization that sucks to high
heaven.

[Kevin Vang]

In article >,
says...
> Wayne Harrison wrote:
> >
> > it is a mistake to categorize folks
> > by religion, as i am certain you understand.
>
> What is the right way to categorize people?


height.

[rw]

Wayne Harrison wrote:
>
> it is a mistake to categorize folks
> by religion, as i am certain you understand.

What is the right way to categorize people?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[Tim J.]

"rw" wrote...
> Wayne Harrison wrote:
> >
> > it is a mistake to categorize folks
> > by religion, as i am certain you understand.
>
> What is the right way to categorize people?

Camaraderie quotient.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[riverman]

"rw" > wrote in message
. ..
> Wayne Harrison wrote:
> >
> > it is a mistake to categorize folks
> > by religion, as i am certain you understand.
>
> What is the right way to categorize people?
>

By their ability to understand.

--riverman
(...get it?)

[Scott Seidman]

"Wolfgang" > wrote in
:

>
> "Kevin Vang" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>
>> > Ah bull****! Ya'll just don't know how to use the damned things.
>> > You obviously had yours set to translate messages from me, and
> Kevin.......well,
>> > we can't diagnose that problem till we find out what sort of output
>> > he
> got.
>> >
>> > Wolfgang
>> > c'mon, kev, let's see what ya got. :)
>>
>>
>> Hmm... I lost my hard copy, but to the best of my recollection,
>> it looked like instructions from a medical textbook on the use
>> of a proctoscope, only the part about the lubrication had been
>> ommitted.
>>
>> Kevin,
>> and I'm pretty sure they don't go in sideways...
>
> O.K., I think I see the problem. I hate to be the bearer of bad
> tidings, but that ain't a secret decoder ring you've got on your
> finger.........it's a sphincter. :(
>
> Wolfgang
> be sure to use plenty of soap.......and maybe a wire brush.
>
>
>

Damn-- the next keyboard I get will have to have drain holes for coffee

Scottttt

[Scott Seidman]

"Guyz-N-Flyz" > wrote in
:

>
> "slenon" > wrote in message
> . com...
>> Still, they're not terribly tasty as I
>> understand and until it creates more property damage, it's likely to be
> left
>> alone.
>>
>
>> Stev Lenon
>
> Damn! I was told that armadillo was just opossum on the half-shell, and
> everybody knows how tasty 'possum is.
>
> Op --a tad greasy, but gooooood eatin', I tell ya--
>
>

The other other white meat

Scott

[Jeff Taylor]

"Dave LaCourse" > wrote in message
...

Brutal stuff.

SPLORK! :)

[Wolfgang]

"Tim J." > wrote in message
news:ETOkb.836500$uu5.147237@sccrnsc04...
>
> "rw" wrote...
> > Wayne Harrison wrote:
> > >
> > > it is a mistake to categorize folks
> > > by religion, as i am certain you understand.
> >
> > What is the right way to categorize people?
>
> Camaraderie quotient.

Nah.......line class.

Wolfgang

[slenon]

> it is a mistake to categorize folks by religion, as i am certain you
understand.
>yfitons
>wayno

Quite so. I'm rather likely to be rude to anyone knocking on my door to
tell me that I need to adopt their religious views or burn. It's of no
particular interest to me what religion they actually profess or practice, I
resent the intrusion.

As for good people being found in all religions, I would agree.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/index.html/slhomepage92kword.htm

[slenon]

>> What is the right way to categorize people?

Whether or not I'd camp with them a second time.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/index.html/slhomepage92kword.htm

[slenon]

>The other other white meat
>Scott

I thought that was house cats.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/index.html/slhomepage92kword.htm

[George Adams]

>From: "Wolfgang"

>> "rw" wrote...
>> > Wayne Harrison wrote:
>> > >
>> > > it is a mistake to categorize folks
>> > > by religion, as i am certain you understand.
>> >
>> > What is the right way to categorize people?

>>
>> Camaraderie quotient.
>
>Nah.......line class.
>

No, no, no....Kreh number.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

[Tim J.]

"George Adams" wrote...
> >From: "Wolfgang"
>
> >> "rw" wrote...
> >> > Wayne Harrison wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > it is a mistake to categorize folks
> >> > > by religion, as i am certain you understand.
> >> >
> >> > What is the right way to categorize people?
> >>
> >> Camaraderie quotient.
> >
> >Nah.......line class.
>
> No, no, no....Kreh number.

Freekin' amateurs. After a great deal of thought (like *that* will happen), I've
arrived at the definitive answer: degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Scott Seidman]

Kevin Vang > wrote in
:

> Tim J. wrote:
>>
>> Freekin' amateurs. After a great deal of thought (like *that* will
>> happen), I've arrived at the definitive answer: degrees of separation
>> from Kevin Bacon.
>
>
> My name is Kevin, and I frequently eat bacon, so what does that
> make me?
>
> Kevin
>
>

That's always changing. Ten years ago, according to many doctors, it would
make you "dead of a heart attack within 10 years". Today, in the Atkins
age, it would make you "pounds lighter"

Scott

[Kevin Vang]

Tim J. wrote:
>
> Freekin' amateurs. After a great deal of thought (like *that* will happen), I've
> arrived at the definitive answer: degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.


My name is Kevin, and I frequently eat bacon, so what does that
make me?

Kevin

[Tim J.]

"Kevin Vang" wrote...
> Tim J. wrote:
> >
> > Freekin' amateurs. After a great deal of thought (like *that* will happen),
I've
> > arrived at the definitive answer: degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.
>
> My name is Kevin, and I frequently eat bacon, so what does that
> make me?

Kevin Who Eats Bacon
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[riverman]

"Tim J." > wrote in message
...
>
> "Kevin Vang" wrote...
> > Tim J. wrote:
> > >
> > > Freekin' amateurs. After a great deal of thought (like *that* will
happen),
> I've
> > > arrived at the definitive answer: degrees of separation from Kevin
Bacon.
> >
> > My name is Kevin, and I frequently eat bacon, so what does that
> > make me?
>
> Kevin Who Eats Bacon
> --


So that gives him a KWEB number of one?

--riverman
(I'm a two! I'm a two!)

[rw]

George Adams wrote:
>>From: "Wolfgang"
>
>
>>>"rw" wrote...
>>>
>>>>Wayne Harrison wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>it is a mistake to categorize folks
>>>>>by religion, as i am certain you understand.
>>>>
>>>>What is the right way to categorize people?
>
>
>>>Camaraderie quotient.
>>
>>Nah.......line class.
>>
>
>
> No, no, no....Kreh number.

Tippet size.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[Wayne Harrison]

"Tim J." > wrote in message
...
>
> "Kevin Vang" wrote...
> > Tim J. wrote:
> > >
> > > Freekin' amateurs. After a great deal of thought (like *that* will
happen),
> I've
> > > arrived at the definitive answer: degrees of separation from Kevin
Bacon.
> >
> > My name is Kevin, and I frequently eat bacon, so what does that
> > make me?
>
> Kevin Who Eats Bacon
> --
> TL,
> Tim

well, if he was a lakota sioux.

yfitons
wayno
> ------------------------
> http://css.sbcma.com/timj
>
>

[Tom Gibson]

"Stan Gula" > wrote in message >...
> "Wayne Harrison" > wrote in message
> m...
> > it is a mistake to categorize folks
> > by religion, as i am certain you understand.
>
> Categorization is fine and fair, it's the stigmatization that sucks to high
> heaven.

Yeah, kind of like Mormons saying that all black folks are descended
from Cain. The categorization ain't so bad, but the stigma's a bitch.

Tom G
more concerned about Jehovah's Witnesses than Mormons

[Wolfgang]

"Tom Gibson" > wrote in message
om...
> "Stan Gula" > wrote in message
>...
> > "Wayne Harrison" > wrote in message
> > m...
> > > it is a mistake to categorize folks
> > > by religion, as i am certain you understand.
> >
> > Categorization is fine and fair, it's the stigmatization that
sucks to high
> > heaven.
>
> Yeah, kind of like Mormons saying that all black folks are descended
> from Cain. The categorization ain't so bad, but the stigma's a
bitch.

Huh? All blacks are descendents of David Carradine? Well, that's
just about the stupi.........um.........hmmm. :(

> Tom G
> more concerned about Jehovah's Witnesses than Mormons

Nah, it's them Rosicrucians ya gotta watch.

Wolfgang
and them freemasons....hoo boy!

[slenon]

>Tom G
>more concerned about Jehovah's Witnesses than Mormons

Doesn't matter which sect, I just point to the mezzuzah on the doorpost, ask
them if the star containing the word "shalom" signifies anything to them,
and suggest that they can better spend their time elsewhere.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/index.html/slhomepage92kword.htm

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"Wolfgang" > wrote in message
...
>
> Nah, it's them Rosicrucians ya gotta watch.
>
> Wolfgang
> and them freemasons....hoo boy!

Naw the Rosicrusians ain't got **** on the Priori Sion. As a matter of fact
(supposedly) the Rosicrusians are the demon spawn of the Priori Sion. As
are the Freemasons. And the Freemasons wouldn't be such a bad lot, if
they'd just rid themselves of them Shriners and their itty-bitty cars and
funny hats!

Op --and don't get me started on Baal. I ain't never met a God I didn't
like!--

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"riverman" > wrote in message
...
>
> "rw" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Wayne Harrison wrote:
> > >
> > > it is a mistake to categorize folks
> > > by religion, as i am certain you understand.
> >
> > What is the right way to categorize people?
> >
>
> By their ability to understand.
>
> --riverman
> (...get it?)
>
>

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"riverman" > wrote in message
...
>
> "rw" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Wayne Harrison wrote:
> > >
> > > it is a mistake to categorize folks
> > > by religion, as i am certain you understand.
> >
> > What is the right way to categorize people?
> >
>
> By their ability to understand.
>
> --riverman
> (...get it?)

WHAT?

Op --I don't get it, I guess--

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"rw" > wrote in message
. ..
> Wayne Harrison wrote:
> >
> > it is a mistake to categorize folks
> > by religion, as i am certain you understand.
>
> What is the right way to categorize people?

Why, rod size of course.

Op --And I got some bigguns!--

[slenon]

>And the Freemasons wouldn't be such a bad lot, if they'd just rid
themselves of them Shriners and their itty-bitty cars and
>funny hats!
>Op --and don't get me started on Baal. I ain't never met a God I didn't
like


I could provide a lot of dirt about the Manicheans. But most of it is
hearsay.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/index.html/slhomepage92kword.htm

[Wolfgang]

"Guyz-N-Flyz" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "Wolfgang" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Nah, it's them Rosicrucians ya gotta watch.
> >
> > Wolfgang
> > and them freemasons....hoo boy!
>
> Naw the Rosicrusians ain't got **** on the Priori Sion. As a matter of
fact
> (supposedly) the Rosicrusians are the demon spawn of the Priori Sion. As
> are the Freemasons. And the Freemasons wouldn't be such a bad lot, if
> they'd just rid themselves of them Shriners and their itty-bitty cars and
> funny hats!
>
> Op --and don't get me started on Baal. I ain't never met a God I didn't
> like!--

Well, I've never met one whose throat I'd **** down if its heart was on
fire, myself.......but hey, that's why they make vanilla AND chocolate,
right? :)

As for the shriners......I've never seen a better justification for a
parade......those guys are just plain FUNNY!

Wolfgang
who thought that priori sion thingy was some sorta brain disease.

[[email protected]]

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:56:13 -0700, rw
> wrote:

>Wayne Harrison wrote:
>>
>> it is a mistake to categorize folks
>> by religion, as i am certain you understand.
>
>What is the right way to categorize people?

Amusement value.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

[JR]

Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:
>
> Naw the Rosicrusians ain't got **** on the Priori Sion. As a matter of fact
> (supposedly) the Rosicrusians are the demon spawn of the Priori Sion. As
> are the Freemasons........

Demon Spawn would be a great name for a fly.

JR

[George Cleveland]

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:56:13 -0700, rw > wrote:

>Wayne Harrison wrote:
>>
>> it is a mistake to categorize folks
>> by religion, as i am certain you understand.
>
>What is the right way to categorize people?
>
>--
>Cut "to the chase" for my email address.
>

They're either on the bus or they're off the bus.

g.c.

Been waiting for the goddamned bus for 30 years now.

[slenon]

>g.c.
>Been waiting for the goddamned bus for 30 years now.

"The bus came by and I got on."

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/index.html/slhomepage92kword.htm

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"Wolfgang" > wrote in message
...
>
> Wolfgang
> who thought that priori sion thingy was some sorta brain disease.

You just ain't readin' the right "wrong" books!

Op --It's FYC's fault--

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"JR" > wrote in message
...
>
> Demon Spawn would be a great name for a fly.
>
> JR

I imagine that the name has been copyrighted already.

Op --which is probably a good thing--

[JR]

Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:
>
> "JR" > wrote
> >
> > Demon Spawn would be a great name for a fly.
> >
> I imagine that the name has been copyrighted already.
>
> Op --which is probably a good thing--

Good point. Sure don't want any trouble with heavy metal biker bands.

JR
(naming his next fly the Big Mac)

[Jeff Miller]

george - from what i observed during my brief whisk thru merrill, you
are blessed to be off the bus routes. too damn many buses buzzin about
now, too many people gettin on and off the bus, and kesey's long-dead
(mhrip)and all-but forgotten. i'm thinking hard-to-travel gravel or
dirt roads ... as i recall, you've got a few up your way and we still
have plenty down here.

jeff

George Cleveland wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:56:13 -0700, rw > wrote:
>
>
>>Wayne Harrison wrote:
>>
>>>it is a mistake to categorize folks
>>>by religion, as i am certain you understand.
>>
>>What is the right way to categorize people?
>>
>>--
>>Cut "to the chase" for my email address.
>>
>
>
> They're either on the bus or they're off the bus.
>
> g.c.
>
> Been waiting for the goddamned bus for 30 years now.

[George Cleveland]

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:06:48 -0400, Jeff Miller >
wrote:

>george - from what i observed during my brief whisk thru merrill, you
>are blessed to be off the bus routes. too damn many buses buzzin about
>now, too many people gettin on and off the bus, and kesey's long-dead
>(mhrip)and all-but forgotten. i'm thinking hard-to-travel gravel or
>dirt roads ... as i recall, you've got a few up your way and we still
>have plenty down here.
>
>jeff
>
>George Cleveland wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:56:13 -0700, rw > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Wayne Harrison wrote:
>>>
>>>>it is a mistake to categorize folks
>>>>by religion, as i am certain you understand.
>>>
>>>What is the right way to categorize people?
>>>
>>>--
>>>Cut "to the chase" for my email address.
>>>
>>
>>
>> They're either on the bus or they're off the bus.
>>
>> g.c.
>>
>> Been waiting for the goddamned bus for 30 years now.
>
True enough. I have a friend who reminisces a great deal about our days on the
bus. Selective memory is a wonderful thing. I can remember seeing her flat on
her back in the hospital in Roanoke, suffering from an indetermenent skin
infection with no way to pay for meds and little money to acquire food when she
got out. I also remember the rising sense of paranoia as we tooled through the
mountains near you folks, watching the police car in the rear view mirror,
wondering if he would really need a reason to stop a car of three hippies with
Wisconsin plates. I remember the skewed sense of reality of waking up in a loft
above a garage in Florida, seeing the roaches scrabbling around the sleeping
forms of my friends and feeling the dread of going down into the house and
facing the people inside who were beginning the long black slide into cocaland.
And most of all I remember the utter dispair when the jail door slid shut. No
way out. No way out. So "the bus" has little real attraction to me.

But then again she got to spend our "bus" days being around me so who can blame
her for indulging in fond nostalgia, right? ;^) And we all came out of it
alive and mostly in one piece. A lot of folks didn't.

g.c.

Yeah, yeah, I know. More of that "I've seen the best minds of my generation
destroyed..." crap.

[Wolfgang]

"George Cleveland" > wrote in message
...
> True enough. I have a friend who reminisces a great deal about our
days on the
> bus. Selective memory is a wonderful thing. I can remember seeing
her flat on
> her back in the hospital in Roanoke, suffering from an indetermenent
skin
> infection with no way to pay for meds and little money to acquire
food when she
> got out. I also remember the rising sense of paranoia as we tooled
through the
> mountains near you folks, watching the police car in the rear view
mirror,
> wondering if he would really need a reason to stop a car of three
hippies with
> Wisconsin plates. I remember the skewed sense of reality of waking
up in a loft
> above a garage in Florida, seeing the roaches scrabbling around the
sleeping
> forms of my friends and feeling the dread of going down into the
house and
> facing the people inside who were beginning the long black slide
into cocaland.

Fond memories. You REALLY need to attend a Nawth Cackalacky clave!

> And most of all I remember the utter dispair when the jail door slid
shut. No
> way out. No way out. So "the bus" has little real attraction to me.

Oh.......well, never mind.

> But then again she got to spend our "bus" days being around me so
who can blame
> her for indulging in fond nostalgia, right? ;^) And we all came
out of it
> alive and mostly in one piece.

You NEED to attend a Nawth Cackalacky clave!

> A lot of folks didn't.

Um......yeah, never mind. :(

> g.c.
>
> Yeah, yeah, I know. More of that "I've seen the best minds of my
generation
> destroyed..." crap.

YOU nee.......ah, **** it.

Wolfgang

[riverman]

"George Cleveland" > wrote in message
...
> >>
> >> Been waiting for the goddamned bus for 30 years now.
> >
> True enough. I have a friend who reminisces a great deal about our days on
the
> bus. Selective memory is a wonderful thing. I

(sniparoo)

George: nice to see some honest recollection of the 'good old days'. I
sometimes lapse into the old "hey, being on the bus made me what I am" talk,
but the truth is that I also selectively forget the paranoia, the 'mental
spiral', the endless hours of haunts wondering where it was leading to, and
the growing sense of "this bus might not be going anywhere...but how do I
find another bus?" Avoiding certain great friends because I just did not
want to get dragged into another round, knowing it was unavoidable...,
finding that fewer and fewer people were sharing the bus ride, and the ones
who were, were a pretty motley lot.

Although this is not at all the 'bus' that Kesey was talking about, I'm with
you about the rose colored hindsight of being on that 'other' bus.

--riverman
(Hey, you're either in the boat, or out of the boat. If you're in the boat,
you'll catch up with us downriver. If you're out of the boat, it doesn't
really matter what happens, now, does it?)

[slenon]

>But then again she got to spend our "bus" days being around me so who can
blame
>her for indulging in fond nostalgia, right? ;^) And we all came out of it
>alive and mostly in one piece. A lot of folks didn't.
>g.c.

The hardest thing about the bus was knowing which routes to ride and when to
ask for a transfer.

I was fortunate enough to choose my routes with some degree of luck and
don't regret the rides not taken.

----
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/index.html/slhomepage92kword.htm

[tiggermayi]

My friends recently gave birth (well, actually, she did) to a little
boy. I am looking for an infant's size fishing vest as a gift. Any
ideas? I have tried LLBean, Orvis, Cabellas and Bass Pro Shop (hey, no
flames there, please, smallies on a 4wt is FUN!)along with multiple
websites. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

I found this website while looking for a fishing vest for my 3 year old son. They have the "youngest" sizes that I could find. Hope this helps!!

http://www.babyjak.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=106

[tiggermayi]

My friends recently gave birth (well, actually, she did) to a little
boy. I am looking for an infant's size fishing vest as a gift. Any
ideas? I have tried LLBean, Orvis, Cabellas and Bass Pro Shop (hey, no
flames there, please, smallies on a 4wt is FUN!)along with multiple
websites. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

I found this website while searching for a fishing vest for my son. They have the "youngest" sizes that I could find. But not too much variety. Hope this helps!!

http://www.babyjak.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=106

tiggermayi