OT Coolest thing under your tree

[Ken Fortenberry]

The best thing to get for Xmas is Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Men,
Health, Happiness, yadda, yadda, yadda, all that sappy and, dare I
say it, maudlin sentiment.

But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?

I got one of these things

http://tinyurl.com/yt3zd

COOL !! It's a reproduction of the first electric burr coffee mill
circa 1938.

The little two blade grinder is forever banished to the tying bench.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
y.com...
> http://tinyurl.com/yt3zd
>
> COOL !! It's a reproduction of the first electric burr coffee mill
> circa 1938.
>
> The little two blade grinder is forever banished to the tying bench.
>
> --
> Ken Fortenberry
>

At $179.00, I guess only the ELITE could have afforded to grind their coffee
electrically, back in 1936.

Op --a *good* reproduction would reflect the era price!--

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"Guyz-N-Flyz" > wrote in message news:xqDGb.24107> At
$179.00, I guess only

>the ELITE could have afforded to grind their coffee
> electrically, back in 1936.

<BSEG> should have followed "1936."

Op

[Lat705]

Seems expensive for a dubbing mixer.

Lou T

[Ken Fortenberry]

Lat705 wrote:

> Seems expensive for a dubbing mixer.

:-) , yeah, I suppose it is. But the new one's for coffee, it's
the old one that gets to live on the tying bench. And besides,
the point of a gift is to get someone something they wouldn't
get for themselves.

Scroll down this page

http://www.estwing.com/newproducts.htm

I also got the 12" moulding puller, it's cool too, but it's
not near as nice a "gift", even if is quite a bit more practical.
I've refurbished 12 of the 32 antique double-hung windows in this
old house. This "gift" is a not so subtle hint to get to work on
the other 20. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Jeff Miller]

garmin gps 176c with data card map for pamlico sound, outer banks, and
nc offshore area; olympus stylus 300 digital camera; emmylou harris cd;
and a watercolor of a new hampshire mountain landscape, painted by e.e.
cummings -

an extraordinarily greedy, excessive, and selfish christmas of
acquisitions for me, me, me - but i'm getting old and i needed all of
them... honest to zeus!!

rachel got the flu, or something equally bad. apparently santa does
keep a list of who's naughty or nice! <g>

jeff



Ken Fortenberry wrote:

> The best thing to get for Xmas is Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Men,
> Health, Happiness, yadda, yadda, yadda, all that sappy and, dare I
> say it, maudlin sentiment.
>
> But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?
>
> I got one of these things
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yt3zd
>
> COOL !! It's a reproduction of the first electric burr coffee mill
> circa 1938.
>
> The little two blade grinder is forever banished to the tying bench.
>

[Charlie Choc]

On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:22:28 -0500, Jeff Miller
> wrote:

>an extraordinarily greedy, excessive, and selfish christmas of
>acquisitions for me, me, me - but i'm getting old and i needed all of
>them... honest to zeus!!
>
Nice (obroff) "haul". <g> I got some accessories for the Nikon D100 I
bought myself as an early present, a Jimi Hendrix box set, and a Che
Guevara t-shirt.
--
Charlie...

[Lat705]

>
>garmin gps 176c with data card map for pamlico sound, outer banks, and

Don't tell Warren about the GPS. He was going to take use to this secret
fishing spot that he said we would never be able to find again based on the
route he would use. Without thinking, I mentioned my GPS. Mistake! He never
took us to the spot.

Lou T

[Lat705]

Got a Dyna King Barracuda and a rod blank to build "The Rod". A friend has
previously given me a Very nice Bellinger reel seat. Most of all got a period
of "No Problems" for family and close friends.

Lou T

[Wayne Knight]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
y.com...
>
> But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?
>

This Christmas also falls five days before my 25th wedding aniversary. My
bride outdid herself

A five weight Winston Quadrate Boo and A Hardy 1902 Wide Perfect Reel.

What really makes it special to me is that she did it with no input or hints
from me.

I think I'll keep her around for another 25+ years.

[Tim J.]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
y.com...
> The best thing to get for Xmas is Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Men,
> Health, Happiness, yadda, yadda, yadda, all that sappy and, dare I
> say it, maudlin sentiment.
>
> But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?

I gotta stick with maudlin. My older son and daughter-in-law joined us this
year, as well as having my younger son here. Older son is here only but for the
grace of God, and we give our thanks. Daughter is safely settled in Orlando
(she's working today to keep her mind off homesickness for the holidays) and we
all realize the little empty spot with her not being around us at Christmas for
the first time. Got some doo-dads and gadgets, and the obligatory shirts, socks,
and beef jerky, but having most of the family around is the best. The turkey
roasting smell is filling the house and life is good.

I hope your families and friends are around all of you this holiday season.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Ken Fortenberry]

Tim J. wrote:

> "Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
>
>>The best thing to get for Xmas is Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Men,
>>Health, Happiness, yadda, yadda, yadda, all that sappy and, dare I
>>say it, maudlin sentiment.
>>
>>But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?
>
> I gotta stick with maudlin. ...

There's one in every crowd. At least you didn't rail on about crass
commercialism ruining the season while gagging us with the story of
your children, Moonbeam and Starglow, giving you poems they've written
themselves on recycled tofu containers decorated with dried flowers
from your Peace Garden.

But seriously, I'm happy for your maudlin holiday. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Lat705]

>A five weight Winston Quadrate Boo and A Hardy 1902 Wide Perfect Reel.
>
>What really makes it special to me is that she did it with no input or hints
>from me.

With NO input... . What ESP! She want to email me the numbers for this week's
Maryland Lottery?


Lou T

[Frank Reid]

> But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?

An Avid 7'6" 2 wt with a Teeny line to match and a table saw. Cool. Also
got a bunch of wool sweaters from my 15-year-old daughter. My wife bought
me one at Nordstroms, my daughter saw the price and got me 3 for the same at
another store. Had Mom take the first one back. Good kid.
--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

[daytripper]

On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:14:09 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> wrote:

>The best thing to get for Xmas is Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Men,
>Health, Happiness, yadda, yadda, yadda, all that sappy and, dare I
>say it, maudlin sentiment.
>
>But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?
>
>I got one of these things
>
>http://tinyurl.com/yt3zd
>
>COOL !! It's a reproduction of the first electric burr coffee mill
>circa 1938.
>
>The little two blade grinder is forever banished to the tying bench.

On the maudlin side, my sons are home for the holidays, and in spite of
rampant pandemics, we're all in excellent health.

On the toy side, the clear winner of the Coolest Gadget of 2003 award, and our
college graduation gift to youngest son:

http://home.comcast.net/~day_trippr/junkdrawer/Mazda6S.jpg

Hope he doesn't wear it out before he finds a job...

The Gadget Runner-Up is a gift from oldest son:

http://www.brookstone.com/shop/product.asp?product_code=399386#

The wine rack is in serious jeopardy now...

/daytripper ("Watch how fast I can decork all these bottles!" ;-)

ps: Merry Merry Happy Happy to All and Their Loved Ones!

[slenon]

While I'm quite aware that Hannukah gifts don't exactly corelate, I'll offer
two items:

First, Gloria and I, after years of joking about the possibility, finally
gave each other the exact same Hannukah card on the first night. We're
still laughing about that coincidence.

In the item category, my sister sent a great t-shirt featuring oversized
rainbow's demonstrating graphically the dangers of nude flyfishing with both
male and female nude fishers in an obviously cold stream. I'm pleased as
can be.l

--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/index.html/slhomepage92kword.htm

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"daytripper" > wrote in message
...
> On the maudlin side, my sons are home for the holidays, and in spite of
> rampant pandemics, we're all in excellent health.
>
> On the toy side, the clear winner of the Coolest Gadget of 2003 award, and
our
> college graduation gift to youngest son:
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~day_trippr/junkdrawer/Mazda6S.jpg
>

When should I expect it's arrival?


> Hope he doesn't wear it out before he finds a job...

****! You got another YOUNGEST son? I got the ****in' job, now I want MY
car!

> The Gadget Runner-Up is a gift from oldest son:
>
> http://www.brookstone.com/shop/product.asp?product_code=399386#

It must really suck to be the eldest son in he 'tripper family. It worked
the other way around in our family. The eldest got the biggest and the
best, the youngest got the mostest, and my sister... well ya know how the
only daughter is treated. Me, second oldest, got hand-me downs, switches
(the tree type), coal, and the back of my father's, mother's and eldest
brother's hand. But don't worry about me, I'll get by somehow:~^(

> The wine rack is in serious jeopardy now...
>
> /daytripper ("Watch how fast I can decork all these bottles!" ;-)
>
> ps: Merry Merry Happy Happy to All and Their Loved Ones!

Op --and the same to all y'all Ruffians--

[Tom Littleton]

Ken asks:
>But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?

Well, I am mostly enjoying the sappy ****, but am also enjoying reading Michael
Moore's latest book....knew full well it would be under tree, so watched it sit
on the best seller list for weeks and didn't buy or read it. Plus, my wife got
me a copy of
Curt Cobain's journal someplace, which should make maudlin look like a truly
uplifting emotion when I get to reading it.
Otherwise, practical stuff and a day of family and massive amounts of leftovers
from the Christmas Eve feast.
Tom

[rb608]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
news
> But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?

Maudlin **** aside, I asked for nothing & got almost exactly what I asked
for. With future paychecks somewhat uncertain, all available holiday
resources went for the kids stuff; & I'm warmly satisfied that they were
both delighted with their visit from Santa. Not the least of which was a
new bicycle apiece.

OBROFF, my inlaws' side decided earlier this year that we'd eschew the
retail & each drew a name of a family member for whom we were to hand make a
gift according to our abilities. I put together a display collection of 16
trout flies (mostly tied by me) mounted, labelled, & framed in a shadowbox.
Once I finished it, it looked so good I was sorry to give it away <g>. It
was cool, but ended up under somebody else's tree.

Joe F.

[Peter Charles]

On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:14:09 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> wrote:

>The best thing to get for Xmas is Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Men,
>Health, Happiness, yadda, yadda, yadda, all that sappy and, dare I
>say it, maudlin sentiment.
>
>But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?
>
>I got one of these things
>
>http://tinyurl.com/yt3zd
>
>COOL !! It's a reproduction of the first electric burr coffee mill
>circa 1938.
>
>The little two blade grinder is forever banished to the tying bench.


Steelheader's fur hat - complete with floppy ears that tie back over
the head out of the way or under the chin when the wind blows. It
looks properly daft as any steelheader should appear when braving
January on the water.

Plus a little bit of teenage reading memories as, I received a
hardcover copy of a paperback I had owned as a kid. "Duel of Eagles"
by Peter Townsend.



Peter

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[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"Peter Charles" > wrote in message
...
> Steelheader's fur hat - complete with floppy ears that tie back over
> the head out of the way or under the chin when the wind blows. It
> looks properly daft as any steelheader should appear when braving
> January on the water.

Um, excuse ME! I have one of them "properly daft" lookin' hats myself! Mine
even has a name: Fluffy. I tell folks, the one that seem especially
offended by fur, that it was once my pet rabbit, and that I couldn't bear to
part with him when he died; so, I had him made into a hat. Tell ya what, ya
can't beat it tho, when the wind is a howlin' and blowin' at 50MPH.

Now if'n ya gets the badger fur hat, not that's simply WILD lookin'!

Op --don't go for the porcupine hat! If'n ya get it inside-out....OUCH!--





> Plus a little bit of teenage reading memories as, I received a
> hardcover copy of a paperback I had owned as a kid. "Duel of Eagles"
> by Peter Townsend.
>
>
>
> Peter

[Danl]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
y.com...
> The best thing to get for Xmas is Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Men,
> Health, Happiness, yadda, yadda, yadda, all that sappy and, dare I
> say it, maudlin sentiment.
>
> But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?
>

I'll go with the maudlin, also. Besides my wife and son being here on
Christmas morning, the best thing under our tree this year is our house.
It's looking a little charred around the edges, but its still here. As far
as gifts go, Cindy and I gave each other kayaks. She got a little girly one
and I got a 14.5 foot "Ride" from Wilderness Systems. Way Cool! Now I need
to get all the various geegaws and thingamabobs to outfit for fishing!

Here's wishing all of you happy, healthy holidays and a prosperous New
Year!

Danl

[Dave LaCourse]

fortenberry writes:

>But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?

A wonderful hand-made 4 X 6 ft quilt from my oldest daughter, Cynthia, with 15
photos of my grandchildren at different ages displayed (5 photos in 3
collumns). She sent away 15 photos and had them mounted on cloth. It is so
very unique and will hang on the fireplace wall on one side with Brenda Reid's
Fishing Quilt on the other.

Henry got a neckerchief from his girlfriend, and a Humonga-tongue (see it soon
on the web-site).

Joanne got the usual stuff that any goddess would receive.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

[Charlie Choc]

On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:22:29 -0800, "Danl" >
wrote:

>and I got a 14.5 foot "Ride" from Wilderness Systems. Way Cool! Now I need
>to get all the various geegaws and thingamabobs to outfit for fishing!
>
Danl, you'll really like the Ride. I have two of them, but I think
mine are only 13.5' long - you must have the codpiece option on yours.
<g>
--
Charlie...

[George Adams]

> But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?

A DVD/VHS combo from our oldest daughter. The only fishing related items were a
spare spool for my B'kill Barstock III, and a pair of fleece wader pants, both
from SWMBO. On the sappy, maudlin side, my wife, three daughters, two
grandkids, and my 88 year old mother, all spending the afternoon together, and
in good health.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

[rw]

My 17-year-old daughter, after listening to me pontificate ad nauseum
about what **** pop music is these days, burned me a "Blast From the
Past" CD:

Revolution: The Beatles
Those Shoes: Eagles
Wild World: Cat Stevens
Call Me: Blondie
War: Edwin Starr
Witchy Woman: Eagles
Train in Vain: The Clash
Spirit in the Sky: Norman Greenbaum
Hotel California: Eagles
Heart of Stone: Rolling Stones
American Pie: Don McLean
With a Little Help From My Friends: The Beatles
Dream On: Aerosmith
Play With Fire: Rolling Stones
Magic Bus: The Who
I Can See For Miles: The Who
Was I Right or Wrong: Lynyrd Skynyrd
Free Bird: Lynyrd Skynyrd

I was just blown away by her knowledge and taste.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[bruiser]

> Danl wrote>
> >and I got a 14.5 foot "Ride"

bring it to the sal****er clave. you're the clavemeister. :-)

> Choc wrote:

> mine are only 13.5' long - you must have the codpiece > option on yours.

you should see it strapped to the top of his camper! (g)

bruce h

[Wayne Harrison]

"rw" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> My 17-year-old daughter, after listening to me pontificate ad nauseum
> about what **** pop music is these days, burned me a "Blast From the
> Past" CD:
>
> Revolution: The Beatles
> Those Shoes: Eagles
> Wild World: Cat Stevens
> Call Me: Blondie
> War: Edwin Starr
> Witchy Woman: Eagles
> Train in Vain: The Clash
> Spirit in the Sky: Norman Greenbaum
> Hotel California: Eagles
> Heart of Stone: Rolling Stones
> American Pie: Don McLean
> With a Little Help From My Friends: The Beatles
> Dream On: Aerosmith
> Play With Fire: Rolling Stones
> Magic Bus: The Who
> I Can See For Miles: The Who
> Was I Right or Wrong: Lynyrd Skynyrd
> Free Bird: Lynyrd Skynyrd
>
> I was just blown away by her knowledge and taste.
>
> --
> Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

and so am i.

wayno
>

[Mu Young Lee]

On Thu, 25 Dec 2003, bruiser wrote:
>
> > Choc wrote:
> > mine are only 13.5' long - you must have the codpiece > option on yours.
>
> you should see it strapped to the top of his camper! (g)

Is it gonna give the Oscar Meyer Wienermobile a run for its money?


Mu

[Mu Young Lee]

On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, rw wrote:
>
> I was just blown away by her knowledge and taste.

Are you sure she didn't just copy someone else's ipod catalog? Apparently
having a cool playlist is the latest conceit among the younger set these
days.

Mu

[Charlie Choc]

On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:08:48 -0800, "bruiser" >
wrote:

>bring it to the sal****er clave. you're the clavemeister. :-)

I'll bring mine too. So when and where is this clave going to be,
Danl? Baja maybe?

>you should see it strapped to the top of his camper! (g)
>
You should see both of mine strapped to the top of my Defender! <g>
--
Charlie...

[Scott Seidman]

"slenon" > wrote in
om:

> While I'm quite aware that Hannukah gifts don't exactly corelate, I'll
> offer two items:
>
> First, Gloria and I, after years of joking about the possibility,
> finally gave each other the exact same Hannukah card on the first
> night. We're still laughing about that coincidence.
>
> In the item category, my sister sent a great t-shirt featuring
> oversized rainbow's demonstrating graphically the dangers of nude
> flyfishing with both male and female nude fishers in an obviously cold
> stream. I'm pleased as can be.l
>

One year, my wife and I gave each other the book of Dr Suess art, published
posthumously.

Scott

[Frank Reid]

> A wonderful hand-made 4 X 6 ft quilt from my oldest daughter, Cynthia,
with 15
> photos of my grandchildren at different ages displayed (5 photos in 3
> collumns). She sent away 15 photos and had them mounted on cloth. It is
so
> very unique and will hang on the fireplace wall on one side with Brenda
Reid's
> Fishing Quilt on the other.

How very cool. Once you get a quilt in the house, the walls start filling
up quickly.

> Henry got a neckerchief from his girlfriend, and a Humonga-tongue (see it
soon
> on the web-site).

If I remember right, that girlfriend of his is a thief.

> Joanne got the usual stuff that any goddess would receive.

Addoration, reverence, and a mainframe computer?

Merry Xmas to you and yours.
--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

[bruiser]

Hey RW,

Hopefully you noticed that Ms. Krall is now Mrs. Costello (as in Elvis).

Her first, his third.

bruce h

[Danl]

"bruiser" > wrote in message
...
>
> > Danl wrote>
> > >and I got a 14.5 foot "Ride"
>
> bring it to the sal****er clave. you're the clavemeister. :-)
>
> > Choc wrote:
>
> > mine are only 13.5' long - you must have the codpiece > option on yours.
>
> you should see it strapped to the top of his camper! (g)
>
> bruce h


Oops! 13.5 would be more correct.

What's this about a sal****er clave? Whyizzit I'm always the last to know?

Danl

BTW, it does look pretty cool on top of Cinderz' little Toyota. I'm sure
it'll fit on the camper as well.

[Larry]

Tim J. wrote:

>>But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?
>
>
> I gotta stick with maudlin. My older son and daughter-in-law joined us this
> year, as well as having my younger son here. Older son is here only but for the
> grace of God, and we give our thanks. Daughter is safely settled in Orlando
> (she's working today to keep her mind off homesickness for the holidays) and we
> all realize the little empty spot with her not being around us at Christmas for
> the first time. Got some doo-dads and gadgets, and the obligatory shirts, socks,
> and beef jerky, but having most of the family around is the best. The turkey
> roasting smell is filling the house and life is good.
>
> I hope your families and friends are around all of you this holiday season.

Best wishes to you and yours Tim...

Reading some of the other posts and thinking about your situation, I'd
say you might be th eone that was TRULY blessed this year.

Larry

[kyle - mr rapidan]

Hey, nice thread! I hope everyone's holiday is going great.

My on-again, off-again girlfriend gave me a climbing harness, definitely my
favorite gift. She's been climbing for about a year and a half, I've only
been 4 times, now. I've introduced her to many outdoor / exercise type
activities, I keep her challenged in some of these areas, but she just blows
me away at climbing. It's fantastic to share this with her, and it's really
nice knowing that the device I'm depending on to keep climbing safe and fun
is from her.

And my brother gave me a bottle of 12 Balvenie Doublewood.

[walt winter]

kyle - mr rapidan wrote:

> ..... and it's really
> nice knowing that the device I'm depending on to keep climbing safe and fun
> is from her.

"safe".... hmmmmmm, "on again-off-again"..... well ok if you say so.

just kiddin.... happy holidays!

wally

[Wayne]

Wimmin always appreciate sumpin fer the kitchin. Got D. a new pan. She
immediately decided it didn't go with the current decor. New kitchen
cabinets arrive Jan. 5, install Jan. 7, counter-top template Jan. 9, New
cast quartz countertops installed Jan. 30. New kitchen cabinets will not go
with Frank Reid's private bathroom floor covering. Ripped out guest bath;
antique clawfoot tub now sitting on the front porch awaiting sale or carry
to the dump. New plumbing and wiring already in. New tile and grout work
to begin Jan. 5. Estimate new pan for kitchen set me back about $22,000.
D. says I can use my $10 weekly allowance for the College Park FF show.
(Note to self, buy diamonds next year and get off light.)
--
Wayne
To Fish is Human...To Release Divine!

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

I received the newest edition of James McPhearson's, "Battle Cry of
Freedom," or somethin' to that effect (I don't have it in front of me,
presently. I've not gotten too far into it, but it appears to be a well
written and illustrated Civil War chronicle.

Op --If nothin' else, it's a great paper weight--

[Charlie Wilson]

Pat gave me a copy of Jon Krakauer's latest, "Under the Banner of
Heaven". Be very, very afraid.

[Bill Kiene]

It looks like somehting that would last.

My wife got a new kitchen........

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA
www.kiene.com













www.kiene.com







www.kiene.com

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
y.com...
> The best thing to get for Xmas is Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Men,
> Health, Happiness, yadda, yadda, yadda, all that sappy and, dare I
> say it, maudlin sentiment.
>
> But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?
>
> I got one of these things
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yt3zd
>
> COOL !! It's a reproduction of the first electric burr coffee mill
> circa 1938.
>
> The little two blade grinder is forever banished to the tying bench.
>
> --
> Ken Fortenberry
>

[Lennie Richardson]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
y.com...
> The best thing to get for Xmas is Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Men,
> Health, Happiness, yadda, yadda, yadda, all that sappy and, dare I
> say it, maudlin sentiment.
>
> But really, sappy **** aside, what's the coolest thing under your tree ?
>
> I got one of these things
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yt3zd
>
> COOL !! It's a reproduction of the first electric burr coffee mill
> circa 1938.
>
> The little two blade grinder is forever banished to the tying bench.
>
> --
> Ken Fortenberry
>

I got a copy of _How to Drive Your Sisters and Cousins Wild in Bed_ (large
print edition)

and some clean T-shirts.

[Willi]

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

> Lat705 wrote:
>
>> Seems expensive for a dubbing mixer.
>
>
> :-) , yeah, I suppose it is. But the new one's for coffee, it's
> the old one that gets to live on the tying bench. And besides,
> the point of a gift is to get someone something they wouldn't
> get for themselves.
>
> Scroll down this page
>
> http://www.estwing.com/newproducts.htm
>
> I also got the 12" moulding puller, it's cool too, but it's
> not near as nice a "gift", even if is quite a bit more practical.
> I've refurbished 12 of the 32 antique double-hung windows in this
> old house. This "gift" is a not so subtle hint to get to work on
> the other 20. ;-)
>

Sounds like a VERY time consuming job. That's the price for living in an
older home with lots of character. Lots of work to keep that "character"
looking good.

Willi

[Willi]

Danl wrote:
I got a 14.5 foot "Ride" from Wilderness Systems. Way Cool! Now I need
> to get all the various geegaws and thingamabobs to outfit for fishing!


Take some pix and let us know how it fishes.

Willi

[Warren]

wrote...
> >
> >garmin gps 176c with data card map for pamlico sound, outer banks, and
>
> Don't tell Warren about the GPS. He was going to take use to this secret
> fishing spot that he said we would never be able to find again based on the
> route he would use. Without thinking, I mentioned my GPS. Mistake! He never
> took us to the spot.

And I have since decided to not take *anyone* from ROFF there. Sucks
to be you! <G>
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"Warren" > wrote in message
...
> wrote...
> > >
> > >garmin gps 176c with data card map for pamlico sound, outer banks, and
> >
> > Don't tell Warren about the GPS. He was going to take use to this
secret
> > fishing spot that he said we would never be able to find again based on
the
> > route he would use. Without thinking, I mentioned my GPS. Mistake!
He never
> > took us to the spot.

> And I have since decided to not take *anyone* from ROFF there. Sucks
> to be you! <G>



> --
> Warren
> (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"Warren" > wrote in message
...
> wrote...
> > >
> > >garmin gps 176c with data card map for pamlico sound, outer banks, and
> >
> > Don't tell Warren about the GPS. He was going to take use to this
secret
> > fishing spot that he said we would never be able to find again based on
the
> > route he would use. Without thinking, I mentioned my GPS. Mistake!
He never
> > took us to the spot.
>
> And I have since decided to not take *anyone* from ROFF there. Sucks
> to be you! <G>

So if I come all the way out to Montana, to fish wity *you*, you won't take
me to this mystery place? I'd never do that to you!

Op --sigh.....--

> --
> Warren
> (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)

[Lat705]

>
>So if I come all the way out to Montana, to fish wity *you*, you won't take
>me to this mystery place? I'd never do that to you!
>

I he changes his mind, you want to borrow my GPS?

Lou T

[Warren]

wrote...
> So if I come all the way out to Montana, to fish wity *you*, you won't take
> me to this mystery place? I'd never do that to you!

Settle down Opie, I was just yanking Lou's chain. <g>
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"Lat705" > wrote in message
...
> >
> >So if I come all the way out to Montana, to fish wity *you*, you won't
take
> >me to this mystery place? I'd never do that to you!
> >
>
> I he changes his mind, you want to borrow my GPS?
>
> Lou T

Ok Lou, it's safe to say I'll borrow your *place finder* now, but don't let
on to Warren. I'd hate for him to back out on me, after I put on such a
show!

Op --that GpS thingy does come with 'structions, right?--

[Warren]

wrote...
> Ok Lou, it's safe to say I'll borrow your *place finder* now, but don't let
> on to Warren. I'd hate for him to back out on me, after I put on such a
> show!
>
> Op --that GpS thingy does come with 'structions, right?--

*yawn*
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)
For Conclave Info:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/MadisonConclave.html

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"Warren" > wrote in message
...
> wrote...
> > Op --that GpS thingy does come with 'structions, right?--
>
> *yawn*

I take it that this means you're on to me?

Op --****!--

> --
> Warren

[Warren]

wrote...
> I take it that this means you're on to me?

Or that I am bored, don't give a **** what you think, am amused by
your hypocrisy or all the above.

> Op --****!--

Yeah, ain't that deja a mother ****er?!?!?! Never lets you live down
those TRs to "_____ Creek" ..... <g>

Okay, I was *slightly* amused.
-
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)
For Conclave Info:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/MadisonConclave.html

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"Warren" > wrote in message
...
> wrote...

> Or that I am bored, don't give a **** what you think, am amused by
> your hypocrisy or all the above.

I can understand your boredom--happens to just about everyone; no one gives
a **** what I think, until they ask for my assistance (?); not to sure about
the "hypocrisy" part, as Lou and I were obviously playin'. Of course, some
folks do get a bit possessive with *their* streams, so if I never fish your
stream, I don't think it will kill me.

Op --Western 'Clave hospitality?--

[Warren]

wrote...
> I can understand your boredom--happens to just about everyone; no one gives
> a **** what I think, until they ask for my assistance (?); not to sure about
> the "hypocrisy" part, as Lou and I were obviously playin'. Of course, some
> folks do get a bit possessive with *their* streams, so if I never fish your
> stream, I don't think it will kill me.

And Lou and I were joking around long before you got caught up in it.
I don't recall asking for any of your assistance and am not sure what
you meant by that. The truth of the matter is that I have taken
people from ROFF to several spots that I won't name here on ROFF and
am in the process of putting together my fourth conclave on a river
that I fish quite often. I have taken people whom I have never met
to some rather nice places, given them tips on other "out of the
way" places to fish, taken them on free float trips, etc just because
they were from ROFF. I have in the past even sent emails to people
who have posted inquiries to ROFF about fishing the rivers in my
area.

Since you didn't get the hypocrisy part, I'll try to explain it to
you. You have posted trip reports about streams that you won't even
name and then accuse me of being "possessive" of the waters I fish.

Here is yet another sample post.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?U65D232F6

Why not name the river Opie? Perhaps you are a little
"possessive"?????? ;-)

Personally, I don't think you are being possessive. I imagine that
it isn't an issue of you not taking people to that creek, it is just
that you would rather not broadcast the name of the creek to ROFF and
the world. I can understand and respect that because I do the same
thing for a few spots I know. This is what the joke between Lou and
I is about. He jokes around that he doesn't need to know the name
(even though he always gets it...) and that I can't get him "lost"
enough so that he will never find the place again because he will
have the GPS coordinates. The joke during meetings and telephone
calls spilled over to ROFF and you just got caught up in an inside
joke and have made some conclusions based upon the joke. I jokingly
said that I wouldn't take him there so he then offered you his GPS
and I responded as part of the joke that I decided not to take
anybody from ROFF there. Guess you still haven't understood that it
was a joke even after I said that I was playing around with Lou.

The whole situation is rather amusing to me because it seemed that
you were getting a little touchy about it. You even became
hypocritical IMO by calling me possessive when you won't even post
the name of certain waters you fish.
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)
For Conclave Info:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/MadisonConclave.html

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"Warren" > wrote in message
...
> wrote...
> And Lou and I were joking around long before you got caught up in it.
> I don't recall asking for any of your assistance and am not sure what
> you meant by that. The truth of the matter is that I have taken
> people from ROFF to several spots that I won't name here on ROFF and
> am in the process of putting together my fourth conclave on a river
> that I fish quite often. I have taken people whom I have never met
> to some rather nice places, given them tips on other "out of the
> way" places to fish, taken them on free float trips, etc just because
> they were from ROFF. I have in the past even sent emails to people
> who have posted inquiries to ROFF about fishing the rivers in my
> area.

I knew that and was abit taken aback with the "yawn." I understand that
folks feel the need to hide waters that they fish, however, I don't.

>
> Since you didn't get the hypocrisy part, I'll try to explain it to
> you. You have posted trip reports about streams that you won't even
> name and then accuse me of being "possessive" of the waters I fish.
>
> Here is yet another sample post.
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?U65D232F6
>
> Why not name the river Opie? Perhaps you are a little
> "possessive"?????? ;-)


>
> Personally, I don't think you are being possessive. I imagine that
> it isn't an issue of you not taking people to that creek, it is just
> that you would rather not broadcast the name of the creek to ROFF and
> the world. I can understand and respect that because I do the same
> thing for a few spots I know.

Nope that weren't it either, and I doubt that you will find another post
from me where I try to hide a fishin' spot. Sure you might find one about
Upper Creek, but it is always in jest, as I have posted about Upper Creek
many times in the past. I'll let Uncle Wally tell ya why I wouldn't post
the name of that stream, as it wouldn't bother me in the least to post it.

> Guess you still haven't understood that it
> was a joke even after I said that I was playing around with Lou.

Naw, figured that y'all were messin' with one another, that's why the whole
"yawn" and "hypocrisy" thing kinda got to me. Anyway, y'all play nice out
West and I'll stick to my nice little eastern streams.

> The whole situation is rather amusing to me because it seemed that
> you were getting a little touchy about it. You even became
> hypocritical IMO by calling me possessive when you won't even post
> the name of certain waters you fish.

Such is life, I guess this medium weren't meant for us thin skinned fellers.

Op

> Warren

[Warren]

wrote...
> I knew that and was abit taken aback with the "yawn." I understand that
> folks feel the need to hide waters that they fish, however, I don't.

Why would the yawn take you aback? All it was meant to be was a sort
of "rolling of the eyes" kind of response. It was basically meant as
"Your (fake) whine and sigh are having no affect on me."

BTW, I don't need to hide my waters, I just do it in jest too. <g>

> Nope that weren't it either, and I doubt that you will find another post
> from me where I try to hide a fishin' spot. Sure you might find one about
> Upper Creek, but it is always in jest, as I have posted about Upper Creek
> many times in the past. I'll let Uncle Wally tell ya why I wouldn't post
> the name of that stream, as it wouldn't bother me in the least to post it.

And I have posted about the Madison, Gallatin, Yellowstone and
several other places in the past. As far as finding more posts, I
found several.... Unfortunately I have no idea of where you are
talking about since you didn't mention them by their real name or a
name at all in a few. You could have been "jesting" and claim that
you were talking about Upper Creek or wherever and I wouldn't know
the difference. Whatever your reasons, it is of no great concern to
me and just seemed rather amusing during the exchanges we had going.

> Naw, figured that y'all were messin' with one another, that's why the whole
> "yawn" and "hypocrisy" thing kinda got to me.

What kind of got to me was the insinuation that I don't take my
fellow clavesters to the good places that I know because I am too
"possessive." It is simply not true and I have paid the price for it
in the past. I had two good friends and fishing buddies get upset
when I hosted the first Madison Conclave because I took some people
over to the Beaverhead (some big secret huh?) and didn't talk to him
much or fish with him at all for about two years. He got so ****ed
when I took people at the Yellowstone Clave the following summer up
to Slough Creek (another big secret I guess) that he cut off all
communication until late this past summer. The other friend was a
little miffed that I took some people up to "the Grinder."
Thankfully nobody got miffed when I took people to the big brookie
lake during the HF clave.....

> Anyway, y'all play nice out
> West and I'll stick to my nice little eastern streams.

We usually place nice. Even George and the Pirate were well-behaved
and civil to each other during the HF Clave. I'll make sure to take
some pics so Jeffie can show you where I took him and was hoping to
show you. But since you aren't coming, I am sure I can talk Lou into
going so that he can send you GPS coordinates. <g>

> Such is life, I guess this medium weren't meant for us thin skinned fellers.

This medium does sometimes make screwing around difficult since we
cannot see the nonverbal forms of communication that people usually
use when joking. It is, unfortunately, often far too easy to take
something a different way than was originally intended and little
misunderstandings like this happen. Oh well, live and learn; forgive
and forget.

Now back to putting in some more insulation in the attic....... This
old house is drafty and won't keep warm! Maybe it being two below
outside right now has something to do with it too. ;-)
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)
For Conclave Info:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/MadisonConclave.html

[Willi]

Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:

>
> Nope that weren't it either, and I doubt that you will find another post
> from me where I try to hide a fishin' spot. Sure you might find one about
> Upper Creek, but it is always in jest, as I have posted about Upper Creek
> many times in the past. I'll let Uncle Wally tell ya why I wouldn't post
> the name of that stream, as it wouldn't bother me in the least to post it.


Why in the Hell would you publicize your favorite, uncrowded,
undiscovered spot on the internet?

Willi

[Wolfgang]

"Willi" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:
>
> >
> > Nope that weren't it either, and I doubt that you will find another post
> > from me where I try to hide a fishin' spot. Sure you might find one
about
> > Upper Creek, but it is always in jest, as I have posted about Upper
Creek
> > many times in the past. I'll let Uncle Wally tell ya why I wouldn't
post
> > the name of that stream, as it wouldn't bother me in the least to post
it.
>
>
> Why in the Hell would you publicize your favorite, uncrowded,
> undiscovered spot on the internet?

My favorite uncrowded undiscovered spot on the internet is:

http://www.1112.net/lastpage.html

I see no reason, let alone a good one, to keep it a secret. I think that's
just selfish.

Wolfgang
who will disclose others.......SASE.

[walt winter]

Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:
> "Warren" > wrote in message
> ...
>

>
> Nope that weren't it either, and I doubt that you will find another post
> from me where I try to hide a fishin' spot. Sure you might find one about
> Upper Creek, but it is always in jest, as I have posted about Upper Creek
> many times in the past. I'll let Uncle Wally tell ya why I wouldn't post
> the name of that stream, as it wouldn't bother me in the least to post it.

what stream ya talkin' bout op? hell, ya can talk about upper's
all ya want, just don't mention @*^&%$ crik. ;-)

as far as "secret" places go.... i'll elaborate on one where the
secret is out. the catawba river tailrace yesterday suffered it's
first flyfishing TV show event. it has also received quite a bit
of media attention in the mags and state newspapers in recent
months. i receive a few calls every week asking how to fish it.
well, for starters, you need a drift boat, raft, or pontoon boat
when the generation is on. there are a few places to wade when
the generation is off but they are few. most of the river coarses
through private lands so it is a nice scenic float below the
upper 1/2 mile or so which is designated hatchery supported.

all of the river below is undesignated water and the nc fish and
game boys were pushing for a "trophy" trout designation (similar
to TN's) from the confluence of muddy creek all the way to
morganton, about 12 miles as the river flows. it appears that
designation won't happen and it will remain undesignated for the
time being.... won't know for a few months until after the public
hearings.

this is a neat experiment of sorts on this stretch of water. the
state up to a few years ago released fingerling browns into the
river to see if they would survive and grow. well, they have and
some are "trophies." recent shock studies are impressive but what
really was surprising is that they have shocked up some naturally
reproduced browns.... they had all of their fins. that is
encouraging.

what is discouraging is that the fishing can be maddening at
times as there isn't any "consistency" to the fish-catchin. i've
now floated it about a dozen times this past year and 4 or 5 of
them were skunks. yesterday was pretty good but i did a hell of
alot of casting to scare up the fish that i did manage to catch.
there are plenty of theories afloat as to why this is, i just
think it is a crap shoot now and will be for awhile.

what is really cool is the species in the river. up high is
trout. middle is trout and a few smallies. lower is trout,
smallies, some largemouth, perch, ..... and stripers that come
out of lake rhodhiss and migrate up river every summer. there are
also muskie but they are few.

personally, i'm not sure if the river needs to be designated at
this time. it will **** off the large contingent of local bait
guys and plug casters. they have been fishing the river for years
and i just don't know if it's right to take away their home
waters and their culture....

wally

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"Warren" > wrote in message
...

Chalked up as a misunderstandin'.

Op

> Warren
> (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"Willi" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:
>
> >
> > Nope that weren't it either, and I doubt that you will find another post
> > from me where I try to hide a fishin' spot. Sure you might find one
about
> > Upper Creek, but it is always in jest, as I have posted about Upper
Creek
> > many times in the past. I'll let Uncle Wally tell ya why I wouldn't
post
> > the name of that stream, as it wouldn't bother me in the least to post
it.
>
>
> Why in the Hell would you publicize your favorite, uncrowded,
> undiscovered spot on the internet?

What's undiscovered? If I don't, someone else will? Uncrowded is a
relative term. Are you plannin' to bring a crowd out here from CO. to fish
my favorite uncrowded, recently discovered spots?

Op --I been talkin' about fishin' spot for several years now and they ain't
been over run just yet. Go figure?--

> Willi
>
>
>
>
>

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"Wolfgang" > wrote in message
...

> Wolfgang
> who will disclose others.......SASE.

In the mail!

Op

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"walt winter" > wrote in message
...

> what stream ya talkin' bout op? hell, ya can talk about upper's
> all ya want, just don't mention @*^&%$ crik. ;-)
> wally

For the sake of friendship, it ain't gonna happen.

Op --Who doesn't want to know the location of anyone's fave stream, ever
again!--

[daytripper]

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:43:16 GMT, "Guyz-N-Flyz"
> wrote:

>
>"Warren" > wrote in message
...
>
>Chalked up as a misunderstandin'.

The rest of us knew that three days ago...

/daytripper (it was fun watching you youngsters work it out ;-)

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"daytripper" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:43:16 GMT, "Guyz-N-Flyz"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Warren" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >Chalked up as a misunderstandin'.
>
> The rest of us knew that three days ago...
>
> /daytripper (it was fun watching you youngsters work it out ;-)

Thanks for *all* your help!

Op --lookin' for somethin' smokey to put in my lungs!--

[Warren]

wrote...
> Chalked up as a misunderstandin'.

Agreed.

And thanks for your help Tripper! :-)~
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)
For Conclave Info:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/MadisonConclave.html

[ezflyfisher]

Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:


> For the sake of friendship, it ain't gonna happen.

man, that's nice.

you wanna float the catawbee again?

wally