OT-they stole my car

[Bill Kiene]

Somebody came in the back door of my fly shop and stole my jacket off the
back of my chair. Well that was not toot bad but my car keys were in the
pocket and they stole my car too.

The CHP told us our report number was 1777, which is how many cars were
stolen today.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA
www.kiene.com

[daytripper]

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 04:51:34 GMT, "Bill Kiene" > wrote:

>Somebody came in the back door of my fly shop and stole my jacket off the
>back of my chair. Well that was not toot bad but my car keys were in the
>pocket and they stole my car too.
>
>The CHP told us our report number was 1777, which is how many cars were
>stolen today.

Sounds like an inside job...

/daytripper (You got many disgruntled employees, Bill? ;-)

[Bill Kiene]

The sad fact is that they don't have any budget left to catch them or to
incarcerate them for very long. The bad guys know this too.

Sad to hear about your loss too.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA
www.kiene.com

"bruiser" > wrote in message
...

> I just got stung for a chainsaw (thankfully not my good one) a compressor,
a
> chop saw, and a gas welder. My friend reminded me that there's a special
> place in Hell for the theives.
>
> bruce h
>
>

[Sierra fisher]

That is one of the joys of living in California!!


"Bill Kiene" > wrote in message
...
> The sad fact is that they don't have any budget left to catch them or to
> incarcerate them for very long. The bad guys know this too.
>
> Sad to hear about your loss too.
>
> --
> Bill Kiene
>
> Kiene's Fly Shop
> Sacramento, CA, USA
> www.kiene.com
>
> "bruiser" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > I just got stung for a chainsaw (thankfully not my good one) a
compressor,
> a
> > chop saw, and a gas welder. My friend reminded me that there's a
special
> > place in Hell for the theives.
> >
> > bruce h
> >
> >
>
>


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[B J Conner]

In Oregon ( Portland in particular ) you get a ticket for stealing a car.
The same as for jaywalking. In fact they would rather give tickets to
jaywalkers because they pay the fines. My be cheaper than buying a new car
if you could find a way to register it first.
It might pay to buy the onstar system and get insurance with Guido and
Louigi. Battery operated drills and amature knee surgery might cut down on
car thieft.
"Bill Kiene" > wrote in message
...
> Somebody came in the back door of my fly shop and stole my jacket off the
> back of my chair. Well that was not toot bad but my car keys were in the
> pocket and they stole my car too.
>
> The CHP told us our report number was 1777, which is how many cars were
> stolen today.
>
> --
> Bill Kiene
>
> Kiene's Fly Shop
> Sacramento, CA, USA
> www.kiene.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[bruiser]

I just got stung for a chainsaw (thankfully not my good one) a compressor, a
chop saw, and a gas welder. My friend reminded me that there's a special
place in Hell for the theives.

bruce h

[rw]

Greg Pavlov wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 05:48:46 GMT, "B J Conner"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>It might pay to buy the onstar system and get insurance with Guido and
>>Louigi.
>
>
>
> ... until Guido and Louigi, and maybe Your Local Police
> Department, start using that Onstar System to track you
> and what you do every time you drive the car.

If you're not doing anything illegal, what do you have to worry about? :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[Wolfgang]

"Greg Pavlov" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 05:48:46 GMT, "B J Conner"
> > wrote:
>
> >It might pay to buy the onstar system and get insurance with Guido and
> >Louigi.
>
>
> ... until Guido and Louigi, and maybe Your Local Police
> Department, start using that Onstar System to track you
> and what you do every time you drive the car.

The best thing about systems like Onstar is that eventually no one will have
to steal cars at random.....they'll be able to find just the one they want.
:)

Wolfgang
who dares anyone to steal his car.

[Jeff Miller]

Wolfgang wrote:

>
> Wolfgang
> who dares anyone to steal his car.
>
>

bet it hertz...

jeff <g>

[asadi]

Around here, budget doesn't have anything to do with it. Think about it,
unless it is an actual 'ring' - stripping and reselling and such, there
isn't much to go on.

The vast majority of car thefts are joyrides. Maybe for a day or a week or
someone jacks a car merely for a ride home, and when the tank is empty he
might sell it for twenty bucks and kids with enough money for a tank of gas
can have a nice ride for the weekend.

.....and then, thanks to Television, the torch and burn the cars to get rid
of the evidence.

Heck, cops don't even fingerprint recovered cars as a rule, just call the
owner and tell him where it's parked.

I highly recommend reading a book called 'Fixing Broken Windows. Bringing
order to a disorganized society' ...or something like that....

john

"Bill Kiene" > wrote in message
...
> The sad fact is that they don't have any budget left to catch them or to
> incarcerate them for very long. The bad guys know this too.
>
> Sad to hear about your loss too.
>
> --
> Bill Kiene
>
> Kiene's Fly Shop
> Sacramento, CA, USA
> www.kiene.com
>
> "bruiser" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > I just got stung for a chainsaw (thankfully not my good one) a
compressor,
> a
> > chop saw, and a gas welder. My friend reminded me that there's a
special
> > place in Hell for the theives.
> >
> > bruce h
> >
> >
>
>

[asadi]

I worry about being tracked when I'm not doing anything illegal, because
isn't it so very easy to make something illegal?

Care if I sit around your bedroom at night? You wouldn't be doing anything
illegal with your wife now would you - so why should you mind?

john...stretching a point

"rw" > wrote in message
m...
> Greg Pavlov wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 05:48:46 GMT, "B J Conner"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>It might pay to buy the onstar system and get insurance with Guido and
> >>Louigi.
> >
> >
> >
> > ... until Guido and Louigi, and maybe Your Local Police
> > Department, start using that Onstar System to track you
> > and what you do every time you drive the car.
>
> If you're not doing anything illegal, what do you have to worry about? :-)
>
> --
> Cut "to the chase" for my email address.
>

[asadi]

....like what's name in Stripes (Lawrence?) all I know is, now I get to kill
somebody, eh Wolfie?

john

"Wolfgang" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Greg Pavlov" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 05:48:46 GMT, "B J Conner"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >It might pay to buy the onstar system and get insurance with Guido and
> > >Louigi.
> >
> >
> > ... until Guido and Louigi, and maybe Your Local Police
> > Department, start using that Onstar System to track you
> > and what you do every time you drive the car.
>
> The best thing about systems like Onstar is that eventually no one will
have
> to steal cars at random.....they'll be able to find just the one they
want.
> :)
>
> Wolfgang
> who dares anyone to steal his car.
>
>

[Wolfgang]

"asadi" > wrote in message
...
> ...like what's name in Stripes (Lawrence?) all I know is, now I get
to kill
> somebody, eh Wolfie?

Nah, it would be more of a ransom of red-chief kinda thing. :)

Wolfgang

[Yuji Sakuma]

I saw a television program recently on the national network here in
Canuckistan which maybe reflects the car theft scene in the USA. I learned
a few surprising things. One is that more autos than I would have expected
are stolen by using the keys - I don't remember the exact percentage but I
think it was in the range of 30-40%. A reduction in everyone's insurance
rates from lowering this percentage would be significant. This is not meant
as a shot at Bill, who strikes me as one of the nice guys in this NG, but
such a high percentage tells me that too many car owners do not take as much
care of their keys as they might. In the cases of expensive cars, Mercedes,
BMW's, etc., which typically come equipped with state-of-the-art anti-theft
systems, the thieves actually break into houses to steal the keys which some
owners keep easy to find places. It is apparently easier to break into a
house than into the car and of course it causes no damage to the desired
asset. It seems that no current anti-theft system will stop a big league
pro, such as those targetting specific models for chop shops or for export,
if he really wants it badly enough. Minor leaguers and semi-pros such as
drug addicts, bank robbers needing getaway cars, etc., will look for easy
game, earlier Honda Accords and some current Fords are evidently the easiest
to steal. Honda Accords are especially popular because they are the vehicle
of choice for performance tuning by young people in their late teens and
20's. Drug addicts and others just needing money, always check the cabin
first to see if there is anything valuable that is obviously or badly
hidden. A coat covering something is actually a magnet; it makes the thief
wonder what the owner is trying to hide, and he will often break in to find
out. These guys will usually walk away if there is a flashing light on the
dash from an anti-theft system. Cars that won't start without a coded key
apparently are also a worthwhile deterrent as are such obvious things like
selecting well-lighted, easily visible parking places and avoiding high risk
neighbourhoods. It seems that competent thieves can steal most locked cars
in under 1 minute and this was demonstrated in the program by a former thief
using a wide variety of makes and models.



Best regards,



Yuji Sakuma

[Scott Seidman]

"B J Conner" > wrote in news:2l8Ib.11407$f3.9293
@nwrddc01.gnilink.net:

> It might pay to buy the onstar system

Didn't take car thieves long to figure out how to deal with lojack in New
York.

Scott

[bruiser]

"Wolfgang" > wrote in message

>
> Nah, it would be more of a ransom of red-chief kinda thing. :)
>

Finally! a non-fishing literary reference from a BOOK THAT I'VE ACTUALLY
READ!

bruce h
(last summer ;-))

[Rivers North]

Sorry to hear about your loss..I just viewed a TV show about car
thieves....they interviewed an actual convicted "Car Thieve" and he said
that the only things that stops him is, the Club, or Auto Alarms....At the
end of this news show they also talked about the newer cars and trucks all
have a chip in the key itself that matches the chip in the ignition...Now
the thieves are now breaking into homes and businesses...just to get the car
keys....sound like something that happened to you???peace gord p

[Guyz-N-Flyz]

"rw" > wrote in message
m...
> If you're not doing anything illegal, what do you have to worry about? :-)


So I take it that you are ready for Mr. Ashcroft to install that chip in
your forehead.

Op --gettin' biblical, ain't it. OOOOOOHHHHHHH--

> --
> Cut "to the chase" for my email address.
>