wadding staff

[gary]

I think I'd like to make a sectional wadding staff. Has anyone ever made
one? What did you use?

[Sierra fisher]

One of the easiest to make is to go to your Thrift shop, and buy a ski pole.
All you have to do is modify the handle


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> I think I'd like to make a sectional wadding staff. Has anyone ever made
> one? What did you use?
>
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[Mike Connor]

"gary" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
nk.net...
> I think I'd like to make a sectional wadding staff. Has anyone ever made
> one? What did you use?
>
>

http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/staff.htm

TL
MC

[Sierra fisher]

There are a number of sectional wading staffs on the market that use elastic
cord. I had one of them. While steelhead fishing with it in Oregon, I
noticed that it wasn't fitting together too tightly. When I got out in the
middle of the river, I found out why. the elastic had deteriorated, and the
staff was worthless. Since then I have been fishing with a Simms wadding
staff that has a metal cord


"Mike Connor" > wrote in message
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>
> "gary" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> nk.net...
> > I think I'd like to make a sectional wadding staff. Has anyone ever
made
> > one? What did you use?
> >
> >
>
> http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/staff.htm
>
> TL
> MC
>
>


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[gary]

I have one that comes apart too easily when you stick in a muddy bank or
river bed. I can be a real pain at times.



"Sierra fisher" > wrote in message
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> There are a number of sectional wading staffs on the market that use
elastic
> cord. I had one of them. While steelhead fishing with it in Oregon, I
> noticed that it wasn't fitting together too tightly. When I got out in
the
> middle of the river, I found out why. the elastic had deteriorated, and
the
> staff was worthless. Since then I have been fishing with a Simms wadding
> staff that has a metal cord
>
>
> "Mike Connor" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "gary" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > nk.net...
> > > I think I'd like to make a sectional wadding staff. Has anyone ever
> made
> > > one? What did you use?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/staff.htm
> >
> > TL
> > MC
> >
> >
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[Sierra fisher]

The Simms wadding stick uses a metal cord that will not deteriorate. It is
easy to put together when you need it, and relatively easy to take apart and
store. I've used one now for abut 3 years with no problems except one; the
sewing on the elastic strap is poor and comes apart easily. I was standing
in the middle of the Trinity one day with the staff dangling in the water.
When I went to move, all I had was an elastic strap with unraveled thread.
I complained to Simms and got a new one, that I had my wife re-sew before I
used it. However that didn't get me out of the Trinity that day!

I believe that the Simms is the best available, but it is not cheap!


"Greg Pavlov" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:12:06 GMT, "gary" > wrote:
>
> >I have one that comes apart too easily when you stick in a muddy bank or
> >river bed. I can be a real pain at times.
>
>
> I have the same problem: the friction of the overlapping
> sections and the springiness of the internal bungee is
> all that holds it together. My next one will have
> sections that interlock.
>


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[Ernie]

"Sierra fisher" > wrote in
message ...
> The Simms wadding stick uses a metal cord that will not
deteriorate. It is
> easy to put together when you need it, and relatively easy to
take apart and
> store. I've used one now for abut 3 years with no problems
except one; > <snip>
> I believe that the Simms is the best available, but it is not
cheap!

If you use an old cross country ski pole with the basket removed
you will have a great waing staff with very little expense.
Ernie

[Clark Reid]

I have been using the Simms Staff with clients this season and it is great.
It has a locking mechanism and no elastic and I really like it. If you are
going to make one check out the simms staff in your local store as a
guideline because I think they have got it right.

My old folstaff is now my pheasant flushing stick permanently stuck together
at 5 1/2 feet long. It did give good service though.
--
Clark Reid
http://www.dryflynz.com
Umpqua Designer Flytier


"Greg Pavlov" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:12:06 GMT, "gary" > wrote:
>
> >I have one that comes apart too easily when you stick in a muddy bank or
> >river bed. I can be a real pain at times.
>
>
> I have the same problem: the friction of the overlapping
> sections and the springiness of the internal bungee is
> all that holds it together. My next one will have
> sections that interlock.
>

[Sierra fisher]

This summer I fished with a fairly heavy set person using a Folstaff. When
we finished, it took the two of us about 15 minutes to get it apart. You do
not have the same problem with a Simms.


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[Sierra fisher]

My wife fishes with one of her old ski poles. The handles of ski poles ae
not what you expect on wading sticks so they may require some modification.
Attaching a strap can also be a challenge. My wife uses about 6' of black
cloth strap about 3/4" wide. she has it fixed so that she can put a large
loop over her neck and shoulder.



"Ernie" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Sierra fisher" > wrote in
> message ...
> > The Simms wadding stick uses a metal cord that will not
> deteriorate. It is
> > easy to put together when you need it, and relatively easy to
> take apart and
> > store. I've used one now for abut 3 years with no problems
> except one; > <snip>
> > I believe that the Simms is the best available, but it is not
> cheap!
>
> If you use an old cross country ski pole with the basket removed
> you will have a great waing staff with very little expense.
> Ernie
>
>


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[Kevin Gunther]

"Sierra fisher" > wrote in message
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> This summer I fished with a fairly heavy set person using a Folstaff.
When
> we finished, it took the two of us about 15 minutes to get it apart. You
do
> not have the same problem with a Simms.
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I fished with a Folstaff as did my fishing partner. Neither one of us could
get either one of them apart. Returned it and now use an old ski pole. The
Folstaffs were, in both cases, birthday presents.

Good idea, just doesn't work

kg

[Scott Seidman]

"Sierra fisher" > wrote in
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> This summer I fished with a fairly heavy set person using a Folstaff.
> When we finished, it took the two of us about 15 minutes to get it
> apart. You do not have the same problem with a Simms.
>
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There is a knack to separating a folstaff. Roll the stuck sections across
your knee for a rotation or two under some pressure, then separate them.
My shop owner taught me this before I left the store with the staff. I've
had to do this a few times, but haven't had any trouble separating the
sections.

Scott

[rb608]

"Scott Seidman" > wrote in message
> There is a knack to separating a folstaff. Roll the stuck sections across
> your knee for a rotation or two under some pressure, then separate them.
> ....... I've
> had to do this a few times, but haven't had any trouble separating the
> sections.


Same for me. Maybe I just don't fish enough to really wear one out; but
I've never had a problem w/ mine. I'd buy another one tomorrow.

Joe F.

[daytripper]

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 22:29:46 GMT, "rb608" >
wrote:

>
>"Scott Seidman" > wrote in message
>> There is a knack to separating a folstaff. Roll the stuck sections across
>> your knee for a rotation or two under some pressure, then separate them.
>> ....... I've
>> had to do this a few times, but haven't had any trouble separating the
>> sections.
>
>
>Same for me. Maybe I just don't fish enough to really wear one out; but
>I've never had a problem w/ mine. I'd buy another one tomorrow.

I used to have occasional problems, tried to do something to "fix" it instead
of improving my technique, and learned a life lesson:

Don't never lubricate the joints in a Folstaff!

/daytripper (btdt, nearly drowned myownself in the Battenkill! =8-O

[steve sullivan]

In article >,
daytripper > wrote:

> I used to have occasional problems, tried to do something to "fix" it instead
> of improving my technique, and learned a life lesson:
>
> Don't never lubricate the joints in a Folstaff!

Do you really mean this?
Or do you mean dont ever lubricate?

--
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deserves neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
"Those who are ready to sacrifice freedom for security
ultimately will lose both" - Abraham Lincoln

[George Adams]

>From: "Kevin Gunther"

>I fished with a Folstaff as did my fishing partner. Neither one of us could
>get either one of them apart. Returned it and now use an old ski pole. The
>Folstaffs were, in both cases, birthday presents.

I can be accurately described as "heavy set", and I have had no problem with
Folstaff. Simply keep the joints clean, apply a little parrafin from time to
time, and store the staff assembled and there should be no problem.

I used staff #1 for nearly 10 years and the elastic cord finally wore out. I
returned it to the manufacturer enclosing five bucks for return shipping, and
they sent me a replacement. I'm going on five years with that one without a
problem. Just requires a little maintenance.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

[daytripper]

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 23:49:47 GMT, steve sullivan >
wrote:

>In article >,
> daytripper > wrote:
>
>> I used to have occasional problems, tried to do something to "fix" it instead
>> of improving my technique, and learned a life lesson:
>>
>> Don't never lubricate the joints in a Folstaff!
>
>Do you really mean this?
>Or do you mean dont ever lubricate?

Poetic license, but yeah, greasing the ferrules - like "crossing the streams"
- would be bad.

/daytripper (with a semi-obscure GhostBusters reference...)

[Ken Fortenberry]

daytripper wrote:
>
> Poetic license, but yeah, greasing the ferrules - like "crossing the streams"
> - would be bad.
>
> /daytripper (with a semi-obscure GhostBusters reference...)

Pardon me, but that Subject: header was bugging the **** out of me.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[daytripper]

On 03 Feb 2004 00:05:54 GMT, (George Adams) wrote:

>>From: "Kevin Gunther"
>
>>I fished with a Folstaff as did my fishing partner. Neither one of us could
>>get either one of them apart. Returned it and now use an old ski pole. The
>>Folstaffs were, in both cases, birthday presents.
>
>I can be accurately described as "heavy set", and I have had no problem with
>Folstaff. Simply keep the joints clean, apply a little parrafin from time to
>time, and store the staff assembled and there should be no problem.
>
>I used staff #1 for nearly 10 years and the elastic cord finally wore out. I
>returned it to the manufacturer enclosing five bucks for return shipping, and
>they sent me a replacement. I'm going on five years with that one without a
>problem. Just requires a little maintenance.

But...As I inferred earlier...One time I waxed the ferrules on my trusty
Folstaff. Everything was hunky dory for weeks of fishing, until one day I
found myself in the Battenkill River at high tide with only a couple of inches
of freeboard and a staff that kept shaking itself apart in the torrent.

Not good at all. Imagine lifting the staff just enough to plant it a foot
further - as one does when inching along a stream - and have it separate every
fricken' time. And each time that happened the resulting Deep Water Two-Step
put me another couple of feet closer to a full swamping.

I was lucky to stay barely planted long enough to tie a bunch of knots in the
cord to make it tighter to hold the damned staff together to get me the F out
of the river...even while certain induhviduals had a good laugh at my
predicament! :-}

/daytripper (won't do *that* again!)

[daytripper]

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:23:33 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
> wrote:

>daytripper wrote:
>>
>> Poetic license, but yeah, greasing the ferrules - like "crossing the streams"
>> - would be bad.
>>
>> /daytripper (with a semi-obscure GhostBusters reference...)
>
>Pardon me, but that Subject: header was bugging the **** out of me.

yeah, it's been catching my eye as well, but some newsreaders don't thread
thru subject changes (not a problem with Agent, fwiw) so I left it alone...

[Wolfgang]

"daytripper" > wrote in message
...

> ...greasing the ferrules - like "crossing the streams"
> - would be bad.


Interesting choice of illustration. :)

Wolfgang

[riverman]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
...
> daytripper wrote:
> >
> > Poetic license, but yeah, greasing the ferrules - like "crossing the
streams"
> > - would be bad.
> >
> > /daytripper (with a semi-obscure GhostBusters reference...)
>
> Pardon me, but that Subject: header was bugging the **** out of me.
>
>

ROFL.
Me too! I couldn't shake the image of someone ramming something up their
butt with a big stick.

--riverman

[Ken Fortenberry]

riverman wrote:
> "Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>>
>>Pardon me, but that Subject: header was bugging the **** out of me.
>>
>
> ROFL.
> Me too! I couldn't shake the image of someone ramming something up their
> butt with a big stick.

Yeah, it reminded me of Willi too.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[rw]

On 2004-02-03 10:06:44 -0700, Ken Fortenberry
> said:

> riverman wrote:
> > "Ken Fortenberry wrote:
> >>
> >>Pardon me, but that Subject: header was bugging the **** out of me.
> >>
> > > ROFL.
> > Me too! I couldn't shake the image of someone ramming something up
their
> > butt with a big stick.
>
> Yeah, it reminded me of Willi too.

Not surprising, given your history of fascination with mens' asses.

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[Ken Fortenberry]

rw wrote:
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, it reminded me of Willi too.
>
> Not surprising, ...

Silly Putz, you stole Willi's shtick.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Scott Seidman]

Ken Fortenberry > wrote in
:

> daytripper wrote:
>>
>> Poetic license, but yeah, greasing the ferrules - like "crossing the
>> streams" - would be bad.
>>
>> /daytripper (with a semi-obscure GhostBusters reference...)
>
> Pardon me, but that Subject: header was bugging the **** out of me.
>

Depends on what you're doing with your staff, now, doesn't it?

Scott

[Stan Gula]

"Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
. ..
> rw wrote:
> > Ken Fortenberry wrote:
> >>
> >> Yeah, it reminded me of Willi too.
> >
> > Not surprising, ...
>
> Silly Putz, you stole Willi's shtick.
>

Shticks are for kids.

[Scott Seidman]

"Stan Gula" > wrote in
:

> "Ken Fortenberry" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> rw wrote:
>> > Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, it reminded me of Willi too.
>> >
>> > Not surprising, ...
>>
>> Silly Putz, you stole Willi's shtick.
>>
>
> Shticks are for kids.
>
>
>

I thought that was "Silly Rabbi, kicks are for trids"

Scott

[Ken Fortenberry]

Willi wrote:
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>> riverman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> ROFL.
>>> Me too! I couldn't shake the image of someone ramming something up their
>>> butt with a big stick.
>>
>> Yeah, it reminded me of Willi too.
>
> Ken, Ken, Ken, I thought you'd gotten over fantasizing ...

I wasn't fantasizing about anything, just remarking that the image of
a sanctimonious prick with a big stick up his ass reminds me of you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[Willi]

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

> Willi wrote:
>
>> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>>
>>> riverman wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ROFL.
>>>> Me too! I couldn't shake the image of someone ramming something up
>>>> their
>>>> butt with a big stick.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, it reminded me of Willi too.
>>
>>
>> Ken, Ken, Ken, I thought you'd gotten over fantasizing ...
>
>
> I wasn't fantasizing about anything, just remarking that the image of
> a sanctimonious prick with a big stick up his ass reminds me of you.
>

Well sure you were.

Willi