Fly line

[egildone]

I recently picked up a Berkley 556GR Fly reel and got a 7' 6" Pflueger 4 wt
rod to go with it and now I need a fly line. Can I use a 3 wt. fly line or
should I go with 4 wt.


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TL
Ed (remove nospam to reply)

[Svend Tang-Petersen]

Im not familiar with the particular rod. However you can usually go one line

weight over the rating of a rod, but it rarely works well going the other way

since it usually wont load well. So Id go with a 4wt.

[just al]

Svend wrote:
<However you can usually go one line

weight over the rating of a rod, but it rarely works well going the other
way

since it usually wont load well. So Id go with a 4wt.

On a different line: the Cortland 555. I fish a Wintson 4wt LT 8'6" 4pc.
I bought the 4wt line for that. WAY TOO HEAVY! I ended up repackaging and
returning it for the 3wt line. Works well but is too sticky in hot sunny
weather. Has some line memory in cool weather too. Fishes well in 60-79.9
degrees F. The line is thicker that the Sage quiet taper I used to
use...had an SA buck skin line that worked well til I stepped on it and cut
the sheeting...shop wouldn't order me a new one (I know that I had to pay
for it) because they were clearing them out.

I wonder if that was the rod or the line then?

[Svend Tang-Petersen]

just al wrote:

> Svend wrote:
> <However you can usually go one line
>
> weight over the rating of a rod, but it rarely works well going the other
> way
>
> since it usually wont load well. So Id go with a 4wt.
>
> On a different line: the Cortland 555. I fish a Wintson 4wt LT 8'6" 4pc.
> I bought the 4wt line for that. WAY TOO HEAVY! I ended up repackaging and
> returning it for the 3wt line. Works well but is too sticky in hot sunny
> weather. Has some line memory in cool weather too. Fishes well in 60-79.9
> degrees F. The line is thicker that the Sage quiet taper I used to
> use...had an SA buck skin line that worked well til I stepped on it and cut
> the sheeting...shop wouldn't order me a new one (I know that I had to pay
> for it) because they were clearing them out.
>
> I wonder if that was the rod or the line then?

How much line were you casting ? The rating is typically for casts of 30-40
feet. If you
airialize more than that it will start to feel heavy.

I had an LTX 5wt with a 555 line and that felt ok.

It also depends on rod action. On a medium to soft rod it might have felt
heavy, especially with a lot
of line out.

[Willi]

just al wrote:

> Svend wrote:
> <However you can usually go one line
>
> weight over the rating of a rod, but it rarely works well going the other
> way
>
> since it usually wont load well. So Id go with a 4wt.
>
> On a different line: the Cortland 555. I fish a Wintson 4wt LT 8'6" 4pc.
> I bought the 4wt line for that. WAY TOO HEAVY! I ended up repackaging and
> returning it for the 3wt line. Works well but is too sticky in hot sunny
> weather. Has some line memory in cool weather too. Fishes well in 60-79.9
> degrees F. The line is thicker that the Sage quiet taper I used to
> use...had an SA buck skin line that worked well til I stepped on it and cut
> the sheeting...shop wouldn't order me a new one (I know that I had to pay
> for it) because they were clearing them out.
>
> I wonder if that was the rod or the line then?
>
>

The 555 is one line weight thicker than "normal" lines. For example, a 4
wt 555 is the same diameter as most other people's 5 wts. Which, IMO, is
a real drawback on light outfits.

Willi

[just al]

Svend:
<How much line were you casting ? The rating is typically for casts of 30-40
feet. If you
airialize more than that it will start to feel heavy.

Actually it overloaded the rod in shorter distances too. The 3wt casts well
enough but I still can't wait to wear it out this season...I miss having a
good shop nearby (where the guys know the product from experience rather
than the magazine reviews and sales rep's pitch). I worked in one in
Montana and we always took the new rods and lines out and messed around
before trying to sell them.

[troutbum_mt]

says...
> The 555 is one line weight thicker than "normal" lines. For example, a 4
> wt 555 is the same diameter as most other people's 5 wts. Which, IMO, is
> a real drawback on light outfits.

That's not entirely true. The first 30' is roughly half a line weight
heavier (10GR for a 4wt DT) and .001" thicker, but the body diameter is
the same.
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[Willi]

troutbum_mt wrote:

> says...
>
>>The 555 is one line weight thicker than "normal" lines. For example, a 4
>>wt 555 is the same diameter as most other people's 5 wts. Which, IMO, is
>>a real drawback on light outfits.
>
>
> That's not entirely true. The first 30' is roughly half a line weight
> heavier (10GR for a 4wt DT) and .001" thicker, but the body diameter is
> the same.

**** you have those stats down!

OK, the first thirty feet of a 555 is one line weight thicker than
normal lines. It's the first thirty feet that's important in terms of
presentation. I don't think that it makes much difference in the heavier
weight outfits, but if you're using a 3 or 4 weight for the delicate
presentation, I think it's pretty important.

I didn't know that the weight of the line was also heavier. Is it still
within the AFTMA standards or are they going out on their own?

Willi

[Joe McIntosh]

"Willi" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> > On a different line: the Cortland 555. > > . Works well but is too
sticky in hot sunny
> > weather. Has some line memory in cool weather too. >

Joe McIntosh adds to willi ---agree with you--the 555 on my loomis 5
wt---causes reel problems due to excessive line memory---- perhaps I don't
use it often enough or need to go back to streching line between trees each
time I fish--- think it will just be smarter not to buy a 555 again.
>

Hi Ed,

I would try a DT4F or even a DT5F or WF5F. Many short, low end fly rods are
a little stiff and don't load up well with the fly line they are rated for.

If you have yourself or know anyone that has a 3, 4 or 5 weight line, I
would try casting it with them first.

If there is a "good" fly shop near you, I would take the rod in and let
someone help you with this.

Bill Kiene in FL visiting grandkids

"egildone" > wrote in message
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> I recently picked up a Berkley 556GR Fly reel and got a 7' 6" Pflueger 4
wt
> rod to go with it and now I need a fly line. Can I use a 3 wt. fly line
or
> should I go with 4 wt.
>
>
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>
>
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