Madison River Conclave - schedule? other questions..

[Michael Makela]

I now it's a bit early, but was wondering who's arriving, when, for
the Madison River Clave???

Just booked my flight to come in on the 8th. I had a frequent flyer
ticket to use and couldn't get it for Friday or Saturday, so I had to
go for the Thursday date (not that I'm disapointed, but still need to
break the news to the wife). Had to book the flight into Jackson
Hole, so it may take me two days to get past all of the other water,
and scenery, on the way up to the Clave.

It's my first time out to this great part of the world and wil be
solo, so if anyone else will be coming from the South around the same
time , let me know maybe we can get in some early fishing.

Have lots of other questions but I'll start with just one more. I
have an older T & T 6 wt that's a bit heavy and probably don't want to
cast that rod all day so I'm thinking about either buying a basic 6
weight rod, or just sticking to my favorite Sage 590 SP and/or RPL.
They tend to get me by on streams that a 6 wt is recommended, but
should I think about cutting into the Madison River budget for a new 6
weight, or just saving the cash for a bit pocket cash on the trip?

O.K. maybe one more question..I also have a 3 and 4 weight I could
bring along if the need is there. Will we be fishin any smaller
streams where a shorter, lighter, rod would be required?

Mike Makela

[troutbum_mt]

says...
> Just booked my flight to come in on the 8th. I had a frequent flyer
> ticket to use and couldn't get it for Friday or Saturday, so I had to
> go for the Thursday date (not that I'm disapointed, but still need to
> break the news to the wife). Had to book the flight into Jackson
> Hole, so it may take me two days to get past all of the other water,
> and scenery, on the way up to the Clave.

Glad to hear it! Drop me an email so we can discuss your arrangements.
I also have some ideas I would like to discuss with you.

> Have lots of other questions but I'll start with just one more. I
> have an older T & T 6 wt that's a bit heavy and probably don't want to
> cast that rod all day so I'm thinking about either buying a basic 6
> weight rod, or just sticking to my favorite Sage 590 SP and/or RPL.
> They tend to get me by on streams that a 6 wt is recommended, but
> should I think about cutting into the Madison River budget for a new 6
> weight, or just saving the cash for a bit pocket cash on the trip?

A 5wt will be fine. If you need a 6, I have plenty to offer.

> O.K. maybe one more question..I also have a 3 and 4 weight I could
> bring along if the need is there. Will we be fishin any smaller
> streams where a shorter, lighter, rod would be required?

Bring the 4wt. Our "smaller streams" are NC rivers and not nearly as
overgrown. A 8' 4wt is about perfect for the "side trips" IMO. Maybe
Jeff or Charlie will have some insights though. I hear Jeff fishes the
feeder creeks of the feeder creeks (RC Clave) when he comes out to
visit.... ;-)
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)
For Conclave Info:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/MadisonConclave.html

[Jeff Miller]

Michael Makela wrote:
> I now it's a bit early, but was wondering who's arriving, when, for
> the Madison River Clave???
>
> Just booked my flight to come in on the 8th. I had a frequent flyer
> ticket to use and couldn't get it for Friday or Saturday, so I had to
> go for the Thursday date (not that I'm disapointed, but still need to
> break the news to the wife). Had to book the flight into Jackson
> Hole, so it may take me two days to get past all of the other water,
> and scenery, on the way up to the Clave.

i haven't booked my flight yet, but will probably do so in the next two
weeks. what time are you arriving in j-hole? i'd like to visit that
side of the park and tetons ... maybe share a car rental for a couple
days of fishing on the way to the madison cabin and meet up with indian
joe. warren...how far is j-hole from the clave or bozeman? can you get
off a few days early?
>
>
> Have lots of other questions but I'll start with just one more. I
> have an older T & T 6 wt that's a bit heavy and probably don't want to
> cast that rod all day so I'm thinking about either buying a basic 6
> weight rod, or just sticking to my favorite Sage 590 SP and/or RPL.
> They tend to get me by on streams that a 6 wt is recommended, but
> should I think about cutting into the Madison River budget for a new 6
> weight, or just saving the cash for a bit pocket cash on the trip?
>
> O.K. maybe one more question..I also have a 3 and 4 weight I could
> bring along if the need is there. Will we be fishin any smaller
> streams where a shorter, lighter, rod would be required?

save the cash. i fished with a 3 weight on rock creek most of the time
and had a blast. only problems were when the wind got up. i think a 4 or
5 weight would be adequate for the fishing i've experienced out there.
i'm taking 3,4, and 5 weights. you can always borrow a rod out
there...bring your reels. there is really big water, but there are many
smaller streams too...penns, fishing creek size...and a few cherry run
size. willi walked me back into a dribbler that flowed into rock creek
and showed me his talent for fishing in overgrown wisps of water. 3
weight would have been best in there (i had my 9' 5 weight)... that was
fun, but out there, i think you'll want to see some of the bigger water
and scenery. you'd probably like to see an alpine lake too...i hope to
visit another one full of grayling. it's just an incredible, fun place
to wander about and fish. and the guys out there will make your trip a
terrific and memorable experience.

jeff
>
> Mike Makela

[Charlie Choc]

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 06:18:48 -0500, Jeff Miller
> wrote:

>save the cash. i fished with a 3 weight on rock creek most of the time
>and had a blast. only problems were when the wind got up. i think a 4 or
>5 weight would be adequate for the fishing i've experienced out there.

I used a 5wt when I was fishing foam hoppers, but a 3 or 4wt most of
the rest of the time. What I saw of the Madison the year before last
was more open than Rock Creek, though, so wind may be more of an
issue.
--
Charlie...

[Willi]

Michael Makela wrote:

> I now it's a bit early, but was wondering who's arriving, when, for
> the Madison River Clave???
>
> Just booked my flight to come in on the 8th. I had a frequent flyer
> ticket to use and couldn't get it for Friday or Saturday, so I had to
> go for the Thursday date (not that I'm disapointed, but still need to
> break the news to the wife). Had to book the flight into Jackson
> Hole, so it may take me two days to get past all of the other water,
> and scenery, on the way up to the Clave.

Good to hear you're coming. You'll have a blast!

Bring Tom with ya!


>
> It's my first time out to this great part of the world and wil be
> solo, so if anyone else will be coming from the South around the same
> time , let me know maybe we can get in some early fishing.
>
> Have lots of other questions but I'll start with just one more. I
> have an older T & T 6 wt that's a bit heavy and probably don't want to
> cast that rod all day so I'm thinking about either buying a basic 6
> weight rod, or just sticking to my favorite Sage 590 SP and/or RPL.
> They tend to get me by on streams that a 6 wt is recommended, but
> should I think about cutting into the Madison River budget for a new 6
> weight, or just saving the cash for a bit pocket cash on the trip?


For me a powerful 5 wt. is standard on bigger water. I fish a 9' 4wt. if
I don't plan on flinging lead.


>
> O.K. maybe one more question..I also have a 3 and 4 weight I could
> bring along if the need is there. Will we be fishin any smaller
> streams where a shorter, lighter, rod would be required?

Small is a relative term. They'll probably be people fishing smaller
waters most days but they'll be LOTS bigger and far less overgrown than
the little Brookie streams you took me too. A light rod is fun but not
needed.

Willi

[Willi]

Charlie Choc wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 06:18:48 -0500, Jeff Miller
> > wrote:
>
>
>>save the cash. i fished with a 3 weight on rock creek most of the time
>>and had a blast. only problems were when the wind got up. i think a 4 or
>>5 weight would be adequate for the fishing i've experienced out there.
>
>
> I used a 5wt when I was fishing foam hoppers, but a 3 or 4wt most of
> the rest of the time. What I saw of the Madison the year before last
> was more open than Rock Creek, though, so wind may be more of an
> issue.


Something to keep in mind, the Madison is bigger water than Rock Creek
and being earlier in the year, flows should be greater.

Willi

[Charlie Choc]

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:30:00 -0700, Willi > wrote:

>Something to keep in mind, the Madison is bigger water than Rock Creek
>and being earlier in the year, flows should be greater.
>
That's what I figured. I'll bring a 6wt too, maybe even a 7wt. That's
one advantage of driving over flying, you can bring more stuff. <g>
--
Charlie...

[Lat705]

If I were taking only one rod (instead of the usual dozen), it would be a fast
action 8 foot six inch to nine foot 4 weight.

Lou T

[daytripper]

On 25 Feb 2004 21:33:18 GMT, (Lat705) wrote:

>If I were taking only one rod (instead of the usual dozen), it would be a fast
>action 8 foot six inch to nine foot 4 weight.

To fish the Madison? You'd be praying to your favorite deity that the wind
didn't come up - on a river that is known for some healthy winds.

/daytripper (mine would be a 9/5 - and I'd still be hoping for low winds...)

[Willi]

daytripper wrote:

> On 25 Feb 2004 21:33:18 GMT, (Lat705) wrote:
>
>
>>If I were taking only one rod (instead of the usual dozen), it would be a fast
>>action 8 foot six inch to nine foot 4 weight.
>
>
> To fish the Madison? You'd be praying to your favorite deity that the wind
> didn't come up - on a river that is known for some healthy winds.
>
> /daytripper (mine would be a 9/5 - and I'd still be hoping for low winds...)


Agree. The Madison is some big water and much of it runs through open
country. That time of the year, we'll also be fishing some BIG flies.

Willi

[bones]

On 25 Feb 2004 21:33:18 GMT, (Lat705) wrote:

>If I were taking only one rod (instead of the usual dozen), it would be a fast
>action 8 foot six inch to nine foot 4 weight.
>
>Lou T

IMO, thats a bit lite. Minumum would be a 9' for 5wt... I use a 6wt
and at times it's to big and others it's small. You will have wind in
the AM and around any thunder head action of which there is plenty.
Think caddis , PMD's, Flav's and maybe golden stones will be still
be around. If you float take the 6wt or even a 7wt.

[bruiser]

I like 9 foot 5 weight for sure, especially if the water's even moderately
high and especially if you want to sink something. The Madison is so
swift - what a great river. The Clave location is amazing.

bruce h

[bugcaster]

I agree on the amazing location, I've sold a Glock, a Sig and a S&W revolver
to finance the trip to the Madison.


"bruiser" > wrote in message
...
> I like 9 foot 5 weight for sure, especially if the water's even moderately
> high and especially if you want to sink something. The Madison is so
> swift - what a great river. The Clave location is amazing.
>
> bruce h
>
>

[troutbum_mt]

says...
> I agree on the amazing location, I've sold a Glock, a Sig and a S&W revolver
> to finance the trip to the Madison.

Lemme know if you need to reduce the inventory further. ;-)
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)
For Conclave Info:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/MadisonConclave.html

[Lat705]

Looks like I'm going to have to bring thirteen rods to include this specific
FAST action 4 weight for you guys to try.

>IMO, thats a bit lite. Minumum would be a 9' for 5wt..

[Ken Fortenberry]

bruiser wrote:
>
> Either that or you could sell them to VERN! You guys had forced Vern into
> carrying just the empty holster on his belt by the time I got to Ennis. The
> Holster and the Hat and the Feather.

And the belt buckle, don't forget the great big honking belt buckle.
Poor little guy, I can't believe how poorly you surly *******s
treated the little man.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[bruiser]

"troutbum_mt" > wrote in message
>
> Lemme know if you need to reduce the inventory further. ;-)
> --

Either that or you could sell them to VERN! You guys had forced Vern into
carrying just the empty holster on his belt by the time I got to Ennis. The
Holster and the Hat and the Feather.

bruce h

[Michael Makela]

troutbum_mt > wrote in message
>
> Glad to hear it! Drop me an email so we can discuss your arrangements.
> I also have some ideas I would like to discuss with you.
>
Will do..

> A 5wt will be fine. If you need a 6, I have plenty to offer.

Sounds like I'll be fine don't bring a spare 6 just for me but if you
have one around I'm always game for test driving a different rod...

> Bring the 4wt. Our "smaller streams" are NC rivers and not nearly as
> overgrown. A 8' 4wt is about perfect for the "side trips" IMO. Maybe
> Jeff or Charlie will have some insights though. I hear Jeff fishes the
> feeder creeks of the feeder creeks (RC Clave) when he comes out to
> visit.... ;-)

Sounds like Jeff, explores every option, good to the last drop.

Thansk again for the info. Catching up on all of the response posts,
catch ya later,

Mike

[Michael Makela]

Jeff Miller > wrote scenery, on the way up
to the Clave.
>
> i haven't booked my flight yet, but will probably do so in the next two
> weeks. what time are you arriving in j-hole? i'd like to visit that
> side of the park and tetons ... maybe share a car rental for a couple
> days of fishing on the way to the madison cabin and meet up with indian
> joe. warren...how far is j-hole from the clave or bozeman? can you get
> off a few days early?
> >

I'll wait to read the rest of the responses, but thinking we could
easily kill some time on the way up from J-Hole. Getting into at
11:30am on American flight 2245. Splitting the rental sounds great.
Haven't been out in the area before and wouldn't mind the quick
teton/yellowstone tour on the way up.


> save the cash. i fished with a 3 weight on rock creek most of the time
> and had a blast. only problems were when the wind got up. i think a 4 or
> 5 weight would be adequate for the fishing i've experienced out there.
> i'm taking 3,4, and 5 weights. you can always borrow a rod out
> there...bring your reels. there is really big water, but there are many
> smaller streams too...penns, fishing creek size...and a few cherry run
> size. willi walked me back into a dribbler that flowed into rock creek
> and showed me his talent for fishing in overgrown wisps of water. 3
> weight would have been best in there (i had my 9' 5 weight)... that was
> fun, but out there, i think you'll want to see some of the bigger water
> and scenery. you'd probably like to see an alpine lake too...i hope to
> visit another one full of grayling. it's just an incredible, fun place
> to wander about and fish. and the guys out there will make your trip a
> terrific and memorable experience.
>
> jeff

Sounds like maybe the 3,4,and 5 for me too. May need a new spare
spool instead. Fished for Graying a bit further North before, but
would love to see them again if it works out. Sounds like a place you
would need a GPS for, the way you wander..

Drop me an e-mail (if you haven't already),

Mike

[Michael Makela]

Willi > wrote in message news
>
> Good to hear you're coming. You'll have a blast!
>
> Bring Tom with ya!

Tom's got cement shoes these days, kind of the way he fishes 8^) Work
on him, he ignored my first plea.

>
> For me a powerful 5 wt. is standard on bigger water. I fish a 9' 4wt. if
> I don't plan on flinging lead.
>

Sounds like I'm O.K. If I get an itch maybe the 9'4wt instead. I've
been looking for one anyway but may just save the cash for pocket
money.

> Small is a relative term. They'll probably be people fishing smaller
> waters most days but they'll be LOTS bigger and far less overgrown than
> the little Brookie streams you took me too. A light rod is fun but not
> needed.
>

So not as much underbrush to worry about or just wider water for the
most part?

Mike

[Michael Makela]

Willi Wrote:

> snipped...The Madison is some big water and much of it runs through open
> country. That time of the year, we'll also be fishing some BIG flies.
>
> Willi
>

Alright, tell me about the BIG flies..

[Michael Makela]

troutbum_mt > wrote in message
> > I agree on the amazing location, I've sold a Glock, a Sig and a S&W revolver
> > to finance the trip to the Madison.

I hear ya, may sell the ole T&T 6 weight and some extraneous other
household items. I try to sell the old toys to finance the new ones.

Mike

[Michael Makela]

By the way I haven't been keeping up, you making Penn's this year?

Looks like a banner year, starting to dry out as it should this time
of year so the water shouldn't be quite as high as it has been the
past few Claves. Slightly lower, means slightly higher water temps by
the Clave week, means more bugs.

Mike

[Wayne Knight]

"Michael Makela" > wrote in message
m...
> may sell the ole T&T 6 weight

If it's a Heritage/XL series, I want first shot at it.

Wayne
If it's a Horizon, use it for tomatoes ;)

[Willi]

Michael Makela wrote:

> Willi > wrote in message news
>
>>Good to hear you're coming. You'll have a blast!
>>
>>Bring Tom with ya!
>
>
> Tom's got cement shoes these days, kind of the way he fishes 8^) Work
> on him, he ignored my first plea.
>
>
>>For me a powerful 5 wt. is standard on bigger water. I fish a 9' 4wt. if
>>I don't plan on flinging lead.
>>
>
>
> Sounds like I'm O.K. If I get an itch maybe the 9'4wt instead. I've
> been looking for one anyway but may just save the cash for pocket
> money.
>
>
>>Small is a relative term. They'll probably be people fishing smaller
>>waters most days but they'll be LOTS bigger and far less overgrown than
>>the little Brookie streams you took me too. A light rod is fun but not
>>needed.
>>
>
>
> So not as much underbrush to worry about or just wider water for the
> most part?


Although there's little overgrown ones, like the one that Jeff and I
fished last year for a bit, many of the smaller waters in the area
aren't that small. The West is much more arid than PA. Although some of
our streams are choked with Willows, we don't have the dense foliage you
have back East. Many of the best small waters run through big mountain
meadows and are very open. These place have deep undercut banks and have
fish that are surprisingly big for the size of the stream.

Here's some smaller waters including several from Claves that were held
in the area:

http://crystalglen.net/Fishing/Smallstreams.htm


Willi

[Jeff Miller]

Willi wrote:
>
> Many of the best small waters run through big mountain
> meadows and are very open. These place have deep undercut banks and have
> fish that are surprisingly big for the size of the stream.
>
> Here's some smaller waters including several from Claves that were held
> in the area:

one of my favorite streams was the nez perce in yellowstone. small,
easily fished from the banks, nice fish in runs and in the undercut
banks, and running perpendicular to the road and back into woods. caught
some nice fish with those crazy sandwich, rubber leg flies. beautiful
scenery... stepping over moose, elk, bear ****piles added to the
ambiance. <g> if i get out there early enough to share some time with
makela, i hope to see that water again.

that dribbler you and i fished was tough even by eastern standards
because of the difficulty in moving up the stream with all the deadfall
and nettles and brambles... reminded me of areas on andrews and little
wilson in nc that require smeegoling to find fish. out there, i think i
prefer the luxury of a pleasant long hike to a backwoods open meadow
stream with big fish opportunities. hope we can do it this year.

jeff

[Charlie Choc]

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:12:34 -0500, Jeff Miller
> wrote:

>one of my favorite streams was the nez perce in yellowstone. small,
>easily fished from the banks, nice fish in runs and in the undercut
>banks, and running perpendicular to the road and back into woods. caught
>some nice fish with those crazy sandwich, rubber leg flies. beautiful
>scenery... stepping over moose, elk, bear ****piles added to the
>ambiance. <g> if i get out there early enough to share some time with
>makela, i hope to see that water again.
>
I plan on fishing there this year too. I'll be in Yellowstone and/or
Grand Teton the two weeks before the clave assuming things don't
change. I read somewhere ("The Yellowstone FF Guide" I think) that
there's a trail that leads around where we fished to some better
water, but it's sometimes closed due to bear and buffalo activity.
--
Charlie...

[Willi]

Jeff Miller wrote:

>
>
> Willi wrote:
>
>>
>> Many of the best small waters run through big mountain
>> meadows and are very open. These place have deep undercut banks and have
>> fish that are surprisingly big for the size of the stream.
>>
>> Here's some smaller waters including several from Claves that were held
>> in the area:
>
>
> one of my favorite streams was the nez perce in yellowstone. small,
> easily fished from the banks, nice fish in runs and in the undercut
> banks, and running perpendicular to the road and back into woods. caught
> some nice fish with those crazy sandwich, rubber leg flies. beautiful
> scenery... stepping over moose, elk, bear ****piles added to the
> ambiance. <g> if i get out there early enough to share some time with
> makela, i hope to see that water again.
>
> that dribbler you and i fished was tough even by eastern standards
> because of the difficulty in moving up the stream with all the deadfall
> and nettles and brambles... reminded me of areas on andrews and little
> wilson in nc that require smeegoling to find fish. out there, i think i
> prefer the luxury of a pleasant long hike to a backwoods open meadow
> stream with big fish opportunities. hope we can do it this year.
>
> jeff
>


We blew it not going on that overnight with RW last year. That sounds
like a FINE piece of water. I'd say we go this year but the meadows will
be bogs that time of year. It's a Fall stream only.

Meadows streams are hard to find. There aren't alot of them and people
are usually closed mouthed about them. Maybe we can find something.

Willi

[Joe McIntosh]

"Willi" > wrote >
> >
> >
>> >
> Meadows streams are hard to find. There aren't alot of them and people
> are usually closed mouthed about them. Maybe we can find something.
>
> Indian Joe offers----lots of good small streams [ not crowded] over around
Idaho border less than two hour drive from Madison--Jeff gets up
early ] --try to avoid famous
slouth Creek in park which is overcrowded meadow creek with old tired
fish which have been recaught and recaught--however the big hotel at that
entrance has great blackberry cobbler.
Instead of fishing into clave from east consider sliding over lobo pass and
fishing Kelly Creek on the western approach to clave-- cost you an extra
licence but beats the japanese buffalo picturing crowds in the park---

Even an old indian likes meadow streams--no rocks to jump and no heavy fast
water to wade

[Jeff Miller]

i'm going to try to go out a few days early. keep in touch about your
plans and location. ij says he may drive out again too. if so, we'll get
him to tend to the bear thang...

jeff

Charlie Choc wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:12:34 -0500, Jeff Miller
> > wrote:
>
>
>>one of my favorite streams was the nez perce in yellowstone. small,
>>easily fished from the banks, nice fish in runs and in the undercut
>>banks, and running perpendicular to the road and back into woods. caught
>>some nice fish with those crazy sandwich, rubber leg flies. beautiful
>>scenery... stepping over moose, elk, bear ****piles added to the
>>ambiance. <g> if i get out there early enough to share some time with
>>makela, i hope to see that water again.
>>
>
> I plan on fishing there this year too. I'll be in Yellowstone and/or
> Grand Teton the two weeks before the clave assuming things don't
> change. I read somewhere ("The Yellowstone FF Guide" I think) that
> there's a trail that leads around where we fished to some better
> water, but it's sometimes closed due to bear and buffalo activity.

[Big Dale]

Jeff wrote:>one of my favorite streams was the nez perce in yellowstone. small,

>easily fished from the banks, nice fish in runs and in the undercut
>banks, and running perpendicular to the road and back into woods. caught
>some nice fish with those crazy sandwich, rubber leg flies. beautiful
>scenery... stepping over moose, elk, bear ****piles added to the
>ambiance. <g> if i get out there early enough to share some time with
>makela, i hope to see that water again.
>
>that dribbler you and i fished was tough even by eastern standards
>because of the difficulty in moving up the stream with all the deadfall
>and nettles and brambles... reminded me of areas on andrews and little
>wilson in nc that require smeegoling to find fish. out there, i think i
>prefer the luxury of a pleasant long hike to a backwoods open meadow
>stream with big fish opportunities. hope we can do it this year.
>
>jeff
Writing like this makes me want to go out in the garage and work on the old
motorcycle so it will be ready in time for a trip to the west this year.

Big Dale

[Big Dale]

Indian Joe writes snip:>Instead of fishing into clave from east consider
sliding over lobo pass and
>fishing Kelly Creek on the western approach to clave-- cost you an extra
>licence but beats the japanese buffalo picturing crowds in the park---
>
>Even an old indian likes meadow streams--no rocks to jump and no heavy fast
>water to wade
>
I am tempted to ride the bike from Jackson Hole to The Henry's Fork to fish my
way to the clave and pass on the park on the way to the clave.

Big Dale

[Michael Makela]

Willi > wrote in message >...
> Michael Makela wrote:
>
> > Willi > wrote

> Although there's little overgrown ones, like the one that Jeff and I
> fished last year for a bit, many of the smaller waters in the area
> aren't that small. The West is much more arid than PA. Although some of
> our streams are choked with Willows, we don't have the dense foliage you
> have back East. Many of the best small waters run through big mountain
> meadows and are very open. These place have deep undercut banks and have
> fish that are surprisingly big for the size of the stream.
>
> Here's some smaller waters including several from Claves that were held
> in the area:
>
> http://crystalglen.net/Fishing/Smallstreams.htm
>
>
> Willi
>

Looks like great water and beautiful surroundings. Proves to be a new
experience with the undercut banksand more open approaches. When you
approach the banks are the fish easily scared by shadows and ground
vibration? We get away with a bit more as the fish tend to be out in
the stream a ways, and the dense growth can block out the sun along
the banks.

Mike

[Michael Makela]

Jeff Miller > wrote
>
> one of my favorite streams was the nez perce in yellowstone. small,
> easily fished from the banks, nice fish in runs and in the undercut
> banks, and running perpendicular to the road and back into woods. caught
> some nice fish with those crazy sandwich, rubber leg flies. beautiful
> scenery... stepping over moose, elk, bear ****piles added to the
> ambiance. <g> if i get out there early enough to share some time with
> makela, i hope to see that water again.
>

You're the guide..I'm in for th ride. I'll try to stop gawking at the
surroundings long enough to avoid stepping in the ****piles.


> that dribbler you and i fished was tough even by eastern standards
> because of the difficulty in moving up the stream with all the deadfall
> and nettles and brambles... reminded me of areas on andrews and little
> wilson in nc that require smeegoling to find fish. out there, i think i
> prefer the luxury of a pleasant long hike to a backwoods open meadow
> stream with big fish opportunities. hope we can do it this year.
>
> jeff

Here ,here, I do still have a bit of a achilles problem that I'm
trying to rehab. May depend on that. I prefer the more agressive
challanges, but the pleasant hike may be in order.

Did you make reservations yet?

Mike

[Jeff Miller]

Michael Makela wrote:

>
> Did you make reservations yet?
>


not yet. i've been hoping for a lower fare than i've found from
raleigh-durham thus far. you still going into jackson hole on july 8?

jeff

[Charlie Choc]

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 20:31:26 -0500, Jeff Miller
> wrote:

>not yet. i've been hoping for a lower fare than i've found from
>raleigh-durham thus far. you still going into jackson hole on july 8?
>
I just got my wife a Delta award ticket from WYS to ATL on July 10th
and had to use double miles to get it. I expect air travel is going to
be busy this summer.
--
Charlie...

[Michael Makela]

Jeff Miller > wrote

> not yet. i've been hoping for a lower fare than i've found from
> raleigh-durham thus far. you still going into jackson hole on july 8?
>
> jeff

Yep July 8th, probably won't change, the flight is booked.

Let me know.

Mike