Really sticky wax???

[vincent p. norris]

I've recently learned about, and tried, Gary La Fontaine's "touch
dubbing." I can't get the dubbing material to stick to the thread the
way he does on a demo tape.

I've tried Wapsi wax and when that didn't work, I bought a wax "toilet
ring," and that doesn't work either.

Does anyone know how to duplicate Ovington's Wonder Wax, of which I've
heard so much praise? What's the tackiest wax sold today? How about
Al Beatty's wax?

Thanks. vince

[George Adams]

>From: vincent p. norris

>What's the tackiest wax sold today?

Try Loon Swax High Tack.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

[JR]

Mike Connor wrote:
>
> For touch dubbing, use paper glue. The semi-solid stuff sold in the
> "lipstick" type tubes. I use "Pritt", but I have tried quite a few,
> amd they all work better than wax.

Glue sticks! Cool tip. I have been unsatisfied with all the types of
waxes I have for touch dubbing very sparse bodies on tiny BWO
comparduns. Hope this is the answer.

JR

[riverman]

"Mike Connor" > wrote in message
om...
> For touch dubbing, use paper glue. The semi-solid stuff sold in the
> "lipstick" type tubes. I use "Pritt", but I have tried quite a few,
> amd they all work better than wax.
>


Hey hey hey. How are ya, Mike? Been here long? :-)


--riverman
(and for the record, I use glue sticks, too.)

[Mike Connor]

"Overtons" Wonder Wax

You can find info on this here;
http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zeromain?id=8

Fly-tying board, and scroll down.

TL
MC

[[email protected]]

This isn't a reply to Mike's post. My Google/Browser
combo wouldn't 'reply' to earlier posts, for some reason.

Someone else mentioned cross country ski wax.
I used that stuff for years. But then I began to suspsect
I was getting unexplained refusals that didn't make sense.
Then I began to suspect it had a smell the fish don't like.
I can't prove this, but I now believe it to true.
So I don't use ski vax anymo.

I tried using beeswax lip balm out of curiosity once
(it had a mint flavor) and the fish wouldn't go near
nymphs dubbed with with that stuff on it. They'd turn
away from 3 feet off. Smell matters. Or lack thereof.

Actually, when you think about the olfactory bell curve,
anything from the "no smell at all" hump on the curve all
the way to to the tail end of the "smells real good" part
of the distribution would be a good way to make a fly.

The "stinks real bad to the fish" part of the curve is
real bad. I've seen it in action.

[Steve W]

wrote in message . com>...
> [ski wax expunged]
> I tried using beeswax lip balm out of curiosity once
> (it had a mint flavor) and the fish wouldn't go near
> nymphs dubbed with with that stuff on it. They'd turn
> away from 3 feet off. Smell matters. Or lack thereof.
>

Try strawberry.

;-)

Steve

[Mike Connor]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> This isn't a reply to Mike's post. My Google/Browser
> combo wouldn't 'reply' to earlier posts, for some reason.
>
> Someone else mentioned cross country ski wax.
> I used that stuff for years. But then I began to suspsect
> I was getting unexplained refusals that didn't make sense.
> Then I began to suspect it had a smell the fish don't like.
> I can't prove this, but I now believe it to true.
> So I don't use ski vax anymo.
>

This is a reply to yours! :)

I believe rhat as well. If something smells wrong, then the fish will refuse
it. Besswax, and one or two other things like dried varnish, etc don´t seem
to make any difference, but there are a lot things that do.

The old trick of rubbing the fly in bankside mud, after washing your hands
in the water, is still a very good tip.

TL
MC

[Mike Connor]

"rhat" = "That"
"Besswax"= "Beeswax"

[JR]

Mike Connor wrote:
> > wrote

>>Then I began to suspect it had a smell the fish don't like.
>>I can't prove this, but I now believe it to true.
>>So I don't use ski vax anymo.
>>
> I believe that as well. If something smells wrong, then the fish will
refuse
> it.

Well, hell, fish have been telling me for decades now that my flies
stink.... ;)

JR

[Guy Thornberg]

I used bees wax in the distant past (from a toilet bowl donut). Put it in a
ChapStick container for storage (I can't remember if twisting the end of the
stick forced the wax out). I quit using the bees wax because it was to
sticky and messy when getting it on my fingers. Has any one else had a
similar experience with bees wax? Maybe the wax I was using was of poor
quality. Havn't used it since but I still have a couple of "donuts" in the
garage I purchased just for dubbing - A 10 lifetime supply...Maybe you could
grind up some stink bugs to mix in the beeswax for a better smelling fly...
Guy

"JR" > wrote in message
...
> Mike Connor wrote:
> > > wrote
>
> >>Then I began to suspect it had a smell the fish don't like.
> >>I can't prove this, but I now believe it to true.
> >>So I don't use ski vax anymo.
> >>
> > I believe that as well. If something smells wrong, then the fish will
> refuse
> > it.
>
> Well, hell, fish have been telling me for decades now that my flies
> stink.... ;)
>
> JR
>

[Frank Reid]

>Maybe you could
> grind up some stink bugs to mix in the beeswax for a better smelling fly...
> Guy

Or mix it with cod liver oil.

--
Frank Reid
Euthanize to reply

[Guy Thornberg]

Oops. Too Funny!!!

"Frank Reid" > wrote in message
...
> >Maybe you could
> > grind up some stink bugs to mix in the beeswax for a better smelling
fly...
> > Guy
>
> Or mix it with cod liver oil.
>
> --
> Frank Reid
> Euthanize to reply
>