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Larry L
December 29th, 2003, 03:59 AM
so, I went through my stuff and have several picked over necks, only sizes
I'll never need left

as I walked towards the garbage, that dim little bulb in my head went "quill
bodies"

what is the right, easy, way to strip hackle for the quill?

Larry and a cat named Dub
December 29th, 2003, 04:20 AM
I not sure but maybe a pencil eraser will work.

Ernie
December 29th, 2003, 05:14 AM
"Larry and a cat named Dub" > wrote in
message m...
> I not sure but maybe a pencil eraser will work.


That's what I use. :)
Ernie

Scott Seidman
December 29th, 2003, 01:14 PM
"Larry and a cat named Dub" > wrote in
m:

> I not sure but maybe a pencil eraser will work.
>
>

I've done that with peacock, but never with hackle quills.

As an aside, if they're fairly old and dry, try soaking in water with a
drop of hair conditioner.

Scott

John Hightower
December 29th, 2003, 03:34 PM
"Larry and a cat named Dub" > wrote in message
m...
> I not sure but maybe a pencil eraser will work.
>
>
I have not tried it more than just to experiment-- I think A.K. Best says to
soak them in bleach (50% bleach, 50% water solution?) I do know if you let
it sit too long it will dissoulve the quill also.

jh

December 29th, 2003, 04:36 PM
You can use bleach (Javex) but I have found the eraser is more than
adequate.

Soaking them with a weak solution of water and hair conditionner or
water and glycerine is advisable.

Happy tying

Dave

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 03:59:09 GMT, "Larry L"
> wrote:

>so, I went through my stuff and have several picked over necks, only sizes
>I'll never need left
>
>as I walked towards the garbage, that dim little bulb in my head went "quill
>bodies"
>
>what is the right, easy, way to strip hackle for the quill?
>

Sandy
December 29th, 2003, 05:33 PM
John Hightower wrote:
> "Larry and a cat named Dub" > wrote in
> message m...
>> I not sure but maybe a pencil eraser will work.
>>
>>
> I have not tried it more than just to experiment-- I think A.K. Best
> says to soak them in bleach (50% bleach, 50% water solution?) I do
> know if you let it sit too long it will dissoulve the quill also.
>
> jh

Try hair remover/depilator, works on feather just the same. See the link
below.


http://flytyingworld.com/Tying%20Techniques/stripping_quills.htm

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Larry
December 29th, 2003, 08:20 PM
Cut away the excess fibers (cut close to quill) so there is less to remove.

I'd recommend wetting the quills in warm water before stripping them,
then use a solution of **25**% bleach, 75% water. While they're
soaking, prepare a stop-bath of baking soda (3 Tbsp) and cold water (4
cups) to douse them in to stop the bleach's action which should keep the
quills from getting unduly brittle. Rinse thoroughly and allow to air
dry COMPLETELY before putting them away.

When you're ready to use the quills, wet a paper towel and fold it in
half, then place the number fo quills you plan to use between the folds
of the towel so they're easier to tie with.

If you'e going to dye any of the quills, make sure they're soaked in
warm water prior to dyeing, and remember, they look darker when they get
wet than they are.

Larry

Larry L wrote:

> so, I went through my stuff and have several picked over necks, only sizes
> I'll never need left
>
> as I walked towards the garbage, that dim little bulb in my head went "quill
> bodies"
>
> what is the right, easy, way to strip hackle for the quill?
>
>

Stan Gula
December 29th, 2003, 10:34 PM
"Sandy" > wrote in message
...
> Try hair remover/depilator, works on feather just the same. See the link
> below.
>
> http://flytyingworld.com/Tying%20Techniques/stripping_quills.htm
>

I like the line: "You should avoid scratching your head while handling the
cream, unless you're already bald."
--
Stan Gula

Hooked
December 30th, 2003, 08:16 AM
"Larry" > wrote in message
...
> Cut away the excess fibers (cut close to quill) so there is less to
remove.
>
> While they're
> soaking, prepare a stop-bath of baking soda (3 Tbsp) and cold water (4
> cups) to douse them in to stop the bleach's action which should keep the
> quills from getting unduly brittle.

Good info here. I've bought too many "burned spey hackles" that the stem was
so brittle, trying to strip the hackle was impossible because the stem would
break too easily.

On this note, does anybody know exactly which goose feather is used for
"burned spey hackles?"

Sandy
December 30th, 2003, 11:03 AM
Hooked wrote:
> On this note, does anybody know exactly which goose feather is used
> for "burned spey hackles?"

Goose shoulder hackle, see link below.

http://www.flyfisherman.com/ftb/ssmaterials/index2.html

Scroll down to just below the picture.


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egildone
December 30th, 2003, 10:05 PM
Reminds me of the time a friend leaned out of the shower with a tube of Nair
in his hand and informed his wife, "This new shampoo doesn't lather very
well" She about fainted.

Ed
"Stan Gula" > wrote in message
...
> "Sandy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Try hair remover/depilator, works on feather just the same. See the link
> > below.
> >
> > http://flytyingworld.com/Tying%20Techniques/stripping_quills.htm
> >
>
> I like the line: "You should avoid scratching your head while handling the
> cream, unless you're already bald."
> --
> Stan Gula
>
>
>

Hooked
December 31st, 2003, 08:23 AM
"Sandy" > wrote in message
...
>
> Goose shoulder hackle, see link below.
>
> http://www.flyfisherman.com/ftb/ssmaterials/index2.html
>
> Scroll down to just below the picture.


Thanks.

Nicholas Kingston
January 1st, 2004, 09:26 PM
just strip the fibres off by hand (outside is best so that SWMBO doesn't
bite your head off)

then dye to the appropriate colour

much safe than playing with bleach etc and just as quick and effective

FYI - Bicarb of soda does not neutralise bleach :)


"Larry L" > wrote in message
...
> so, I went through my stuff and have several picked over necks, only sizes
> I'll never need left
>
> as I walked towards the garbage, that dim little bulb in my head went
"quill
> bodies"
>
> what is the right, easy, way to strip hackle for the quill?
>
>

pw
March 12th, 2004, 04:32 AM
>just strip the fibres off by hand (outside is best so that SWMBO doesn't
>bite your head off)
>
>then dye to the appropriate colour
>
>much safe than playing with bleach etc and just as quick and effective

That is how I used to do it. Thanks for reminding me! It's been a
long while. I believe I learned that from Del Mazza.

-pw


>
>FYI - Bicarb of soda does not neutralise bleach :)
>
>
>"Larry L" > wrote in message
...
>> so, I went through my stuff and have several picked over necks, only sizes
>> I'll never need left
>>
>> as I walked towards the garbage, that dim little bulb in my head went
>"quill
>> bodies"
>>
>> what is the right, easy, way to strip hackle for the quill?
>>
>>
>



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