Re: Feeding Bluefish ???

[Sphynx]

licker wrote:
> Someone asked what a hardtail is?
>
> Blue Runner: Other names Hardtail, Hardtail Jack, Blue Jack
> Range & Habitat : This species is found Gulfwide in all waters from the
> surf zone to offshore.
> Identification & Biology : This jack is similar in shape to the yellow
> jack, but not quite as streamlined. Its color ranges through the various
> shades of blue and into green on its back, with a silvery to white belly.
> Their distinguishing feature is the more than 45 enlarged scales or scutes
> on the lateral line ahead of the tail. No other jack has more than 44 scutes
> and most have substantially less.
>
> Blue runners can form large schools. They tend to concentrate at offshore
> oil and gas platforms in the northern Gulf, where researchers estimate that
> as many as 30,000 individuals can be found at a single platform. There, they
> feed day and night on zooplankton and small fishes, and in turn attract
> large predators such as barracuda, groupers, cobia, other jacks, and even
> open-water fish such as king mackerel, billfish, and tuna which feed on
> them.
>
> Size :Typically 12 - 18 inches.
> Food Value : Poor, however blue runners are an excellent bait fish for tuna
> and billfish
>
>
>
>
> Sarge

Thanks Sarge. Now we know it wasn't them. Never heard of such things in Cape
Cod Bay.


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Sphynx

[PAN CYAN]

Sometimes you have to "match the hatch" and use an artificial that closely
resembles what the bluefish are feeding on. Sometimes a jig type lure produces
on different types of retrives. Other times a lure radically different from
what the fish are feeding on prouces strikes. A few days ago I caught a striper
and a blue from the beach in 2 ft of water on an 8 in yellow pencil popper when
they were feeding on 2 in peanut bunker. I can only suggest that u
experiment.... and take along a few snagging hooks too.

[PSmith9626]

Dear Pan,
Bluefish will feed on anything--even silver foil.
The trick is to find hungry bluefish.If they are not hungry--just get them
angry.
best
Penny

>Sometimes you have to "match the hatch" and use an artificial that closely
>resembles what the bluefish are feeding on.

They are NOT trout.

[Sphynx]

PSmith9626 wrote:
> The trick is to find hungry bluefish.If they are not hungry--just get them
> angry.

Get them angry? When are they not angry? :-)


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Sphynx

[PUCK FITTSBURGH]

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 02:41:57 GMT, "Sphynx" > wrote:

>PSmith9626 wrote:
>> The trick is to find hungry bluefish.If they are not hungry--just get them
>> angry.
>
>Get them angry? When are they not angry? :-)
When cuda are after them then they are just scared

[Sphynx]

PUCK FITTSBURGH wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 02:41:57 GMT, "Sphynx" > wrote:
>
>> PSmith9626 wrote:
>>> The trick is to find hungry bluefish.If they are not hungry--just get them
>>> angry.
>>
>> Get them angry? When are they not angry? :-)
> When cuda are after them then they are just scared

You must be refering to the smaller blues they get down south.
Up here those big 15 to 20+ lb bluefish school up and they
are not afraid of much anything. Although cuda are rare
up here we had them one summer in good numbers, if only
briefly.

I once saw a big blue, say 15 or so pounds cut in two and with
the head floating past me. Wish I saw the shark that did it.


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Sphynx

[Musashi]

"Sphynx" > wrote in message
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> PUCK FITTSBURGH wrote:
> > On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 02:41:57 GMT, "Sphynx" > wrote:
> >
> >> PSmith9626 wrote:
> >>> The trick is to find hungry bluefish.If they are not hungry--just
get them
> >>> angry.
> >>
> >> Get them angry? When are they not angry? :-)
> > When cuda are after them then they are just scared
>
> You must be refering to the smaller blues they get down south.
> Up here those big 15 to 20+ lb bluefish school up and they
> are not afraid of much anything. Although cuda are rare
> up here we had them one summer in good numbers, if only
> briefly.
>
> I once saw a big blue, say 15 or so pounds cut in two and with
> the head floating past me. Wish I saw the shark that did it.
>
>
> --
> Sphynx

I have seen video footage of giant bluefin tuna chasing down 15-20lb class
bluefish
like they were just baitfish. Both predator and prey completely jumping out
of the water.

[Sphynx]

Musashi wrote:

>
> I have seen video footage of giant bluefin tuna chasing down 15-20lb class
> bluefish
> like they were just baitfish. Both predator and prey completely jumping out
> of the water.

A boat motor could spook them AND the Tuna.

I didn't mean to suggest that a school of big blues couldn't be preyed upon;
I've seen it myself. My original point was meant to be that voracious behavior
makes up a huge part of the bluefish's personality. No?

Also, fear and flight are not the same and should not be confused.


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Sphynx

[PUCK FITTSBURGH]

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:15:46 GMT, "Sphynx" > wrote:

>Musashi wrote:
>
>>
>> I have seen video footage of giant bluefin tuna chasing down 15-20lb class
>> bluefish
>> like they were just baitfish. Both predator and prey completely jumping out
>> of the water.
>
>A boat motor could spook them AND the Tuna.
>
>I didn't mean to suggest that a school of big blues couldn't be preyed upon;
>I've seen it myself. My original point was meant to be that voracious behavior
>makes up a huge part of the bluefish's personality. No?
>
>Also, fear and flight are not the same and should not be confused.


king rigged a 2lb blue on outer banks pier cpl years ago and had cuda
nail him. as for seeing shark went offshore and hooked 400lb
hammerhead hit the bonita that was hooked also got 6 yellowtail
tuna (or is that yellowfin can never remember).

p.s. you ever get some tuna try Classico's garlic and herb
marinade.man was that good. ought to work for just about any fish


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