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Joe
March 15th, 2004, 10:33 PM
My name is Joe Bell and for a school project I am making a business plan for
a fly-in fishing lodge in Northern Saskatchewan. Information gathered from
this survey will help me in setting up my business to best meet the needs of
potential customers. The information will be destroyed once the data is
analyzed. Your time and effort in completing this survey would be greatly
appreciated.

Visit on the following link to complete the survey:

http://homepage.usask.ca/~jmb897/survey.htm

a-happy-up-yours
March 15th, 2004, 11:50 PM
Joe wrote:
> My name is Joe Bell and for a school project I am making a business plan for
> a fly-in fishing lodge in Northern Saskatchewan. Information gathered from
> this survey will help me in setting up my business to best meet the needs of
> potential customers. The information will be destroyed once the data is
> analyzed. Your time and effort in completing this survey would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Visit on the following link to complete the survey:
>
> http://homepage.usask.ca/~jmb897/survey.htm
>
>

Upon receipt of a valid email address, I will forward a copy of my professional
rate schedule and a basic contract outlining the terms that will apply. Once a
contract is in place and the initial payment received, I will be pleased to
provide any pertinent information that I hold and which fits your criteria. In
case this is outside your current range of interests and you are mining valuable
data without compensation, kindly note my email address.

Tom

Chris Martin
March 16th, 2004, 12:03 AM
"a-happy-up-yours" > wrote in
message link.net...
> Joe wrote:
> > My name is Joe Bell and for a school project I am making a business plan
for
> > a fly-in fishing lodge in Northern Saskatchewan. Information gathered
from
> > this survey will help me in setting up my business to best meet the
needs of
> > potential customers. The information will be destroyed once the data is
> > analyzed. Your time and effort in completing this survey would be
greatly
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Visit on the following link to complete the survey:
> >
> > http://homepage.usask.ca/~jmb897/survey.htm
> >
> >
>
> Upon receipt of a valid email address, I will forward a copy of my
professional
> rate schedule and a basic contract outlining the terms that will apply.
Once a
> contract is in place and the initial payment received, I will be pleased
to
> provide any pertinent information that I hold and which fits your
criteria. In
> case this is outside your current range of interests and you are mining
valuable
> data without compensation, kindly note my email address.
>
> Tom

You must be happy camping company.. kids doing a school project, sheesh.

Wayne Harrison
March 16th, 2004, 01:10 AM
> > Joe wrote:
> > > My name is Joe Bell and for a school project I am making a business
plan
> for
> > > a fly-in fishing lodge in Northern Saskatchewan. Information gathered
> from
> > > this survey will help me in setting up my business to best meet the
> needs of
> > > potential customers. The information will be destroyed once the data
is
> > > analyzed. Your time and effort in completing this survey would be
> greatly
> > > appreciated.

tom responded:
.. In
> > case this is outside your current range of interests and you are mining
> valuable
> > data without compensation, kindly note my email address.
> >
> > Tom


> then, chris said:
> You must be happy camping company.. kids doing a school project, sheesh.
>
> as a matter of fact, he is one of the finest boon companions a man
could ever hope for. and if you think this "kid" is innocently gathering
data for a school project, then fill out his questionnaire and hush.

and, in the meantime, i have a little bridge in brooklyn i need to
unload for next to nothing...

wayno

Lo Dolce Pesca
March 16th, 2004, 01:23 AM
Wayne Harrison" > wrote in message:

and, in the meantime, i have a little bridge in brooklyn i need to
unload for next to nothing...
wayno
...............

*burp*

yep.

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Joe
March 16th, 2004, 07:53 AM
To 'a-happy-up-yours',

I know market researchers are annoying and will try everything to get a
survey filled out. I actually am a student at the University of Saskatchewan
and my professor wants me to get 100 surveys filled out for my business
plan. I do not know 100 people from the United States who are interested in
fishing, so I thought I would post for help on some newsgroups.

If this offended you, I am sorry.. I am not a specialist on newsgroup
etiquette.

Joe Bell



"a-happy-up-yours" > wrote in
message link.net...
> Joe wrote:
> > My name is Joe Bell and for a school project I am making a business plan
for
> > a fly-in fishing lodge in Northern Saskatchewan. Information gathered
from
> > this survey will help me in setting up my business to best meet the
needs of
> > potential customers. The information will be destroyed once the data is
> > analyzed. Your time and effort in completing this survey would be
greatly
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Visit on the following link to complete the survey:
> >
> > http://homepage.usask.ca/~jmb897/survey.htm
> >
> >
>
> Upon receipt of a valid email address, I will forward a copy of my
professional
> rate schedule and a basic contract outlining the terms that will apply.
Once a
> contract is in place and the initial payment received, I will be pleased
to
> provide any pertinent information that I hold and which fits your
criteria. In
> case this is outside your current range of interests and you are mining
valuable
> data without compensation, kindly note my email address.
>
> Tom

Lou W
March 16th, 2004, 03:11 PM
"Joe" > wrote in message
...
> To 'a-happy-up-yours',
>
> I know market researchers are annoying and will try everything to get a
> survey filled out. I actually am a student at the University of
Saskatchewan
> and my professor wants me to get 100 surveys filled out for my business
> plan. I do not know 100 people from the United States who are interested
in
> fishing, so I thought I would post for help on some newsgroups.
>
> If this offended you, I am sorry.. I am not a specialist on newsgroup
> etiquette.
>
> Joe Bell
>
>
>

I would guess that many are concerned, and rightly so, that filling out
any form online has a good chance of being yet another way of spammers
harvesting email addy's, phone #'s, personal info etc.
Also sometimes links will take people to "trash sites" where one can
encounter browser highjackers
and other such nasties. The net can be a great place for research
unfortunately too many A$$holes use it for less than honorable purposes
hence the skepticism you have encountered.

Lou
"fishin deep in S. California"

Bob La Londe
March 16th, 2004, 04:22 PM
I work in the alarm industry, and one of my vendors has a unique approach to
marketing surveys. About once a year they mail me a survey, and they
include a dollar in the envelope along with a note. "We realize that your
time is very valuable, and while the dollar enclosed doesn't cover the time
to fill out our survey we hope that it will help. Our survey is used within
the industry for suppliers and manufacturers to tailor their offerings to
your needs. In addition to the dollar enclosed, if you fill out and return
the enclosed survey we will mail to you a copy of the final report generated
from this survey."

I have filled out their survey most years. Once or twice I just pocketed
the dollar and tossed it, but most years they got their results from me.

I realize that if you are truly "just" doing a student project this may be a
little out of you price range. I know a hundred dollars was like a million
when I was in college.

On the other hand, it is highly likely that your professor is assigning you
to do research that he will turn around and use commercially. It is very
common practice in the college and university environment for instructors to
do this.

I ran across it while writing some assembly language utilities myself. I
wrote a very neat text / hex editor that did absolute reads & writes to a
drive. You could use it to copy any drive to another drive amoung other
things. It was also very handy for trouble shooting utility programs
written in assembler. I took the time to dress it up with lots of fancy
bells and whistles as well as multiple viewing formats to make using it
easier. I also wrote a version to execute 20 times, and then seek out
copies of itself and delete them all including the copy that was executing.

A couple months later the instructor told me that he was having a problem
with the program I wrote. (I already had my grade for his class.) I asked
him to have his client get in touch with me directly. I would be glad to
provide them with a non copyright protected version of the program for a
small fee. His mouth snapped shut, and he walked away with out saying
another word.

Since then in business classes and scinece classes I have run similar
circumstances. If the instructor is paying you to be a research assistant
out of his department's budget then go for it, but if its just part of your
grade he is commercially benefiting from your work without paying you. I
suppose it may be difficult to get out of doing it if it is part of his
class requirements, but I would certainly find out. If you could use some
extra money you might be able to get a part time job assisting him with his
research.

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"Joe" > wrote in message
...
> To 'a-happy-up-yours',
>
> I know market researchers are annoying and will try everything to get a
> survey filled out. I actually am a student at the University of
Saskatchewan
> and my professor wants me to get 100 surveys filled out for my business
> plan. I do not know 100 people from the United States who are interested
in
> fishing, so I thought I would post for help on some newsgroups.
>
> If this offended you, I am sorry.. I am not a specialist on newsgroup
> etiquette.
>
> Joe Bell
>
>
>
> "a-happy-up-yours" > wrote
in
> message link.net...
> > Joe wrote:
> > > My name is Joe Bell and for a school project I am making a business
plan
> for
> > > a fly-in fishing lodge in Northern Saskatchewan. Information gathered
> from
> > > this survey will help me in setting up my business to best meet the
> needs of
> > > potential customers. The information will be destroyed once the data
is
> > > analyzed. Your time and effort in completing this survey would be
> greatly
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > Visit on the following link to complete the survey:
> > >
> > > http://homepage.usask.ca/~jmb897/survey.htm
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Upon receipt of a valid email address, I will forward a copy of my
> professional
> > rate schedule and a basic contract outlining the terms that will apply.
> Once a
> > contract is in place and the initial payment received, I will be pleased
> to
> > provide any pertinent information that I hold and which fits your
> criteria. In
> > case this is outside your current range of interests and you are mining
> valuable
> > data without compensation, kindly note my email address.
> >
> > Tom
>
>

bassrecord
March 16th, 2004, 10:23 PM
Hey Joe,
Some of us replied to your survey. Some of us would invite you to post here
how many people responded to your survey and what your results are?

As a bass fisherman, flying in to No, Saskatchewan is not high on my
priority fishing list so my survey response might not be too useful to your
study. FWIW your survey questions were not structured in such a manner to
find out what it would take to induce me to become a part of your
theoritecial business plan.

Good luck!
John
"Joe" > wrote in message
...
> My name is Joe Bell and for a school project I am making a business plan
for
> a fly-in fishing lodge in Northern Saskatchewan. Information gathered from
> this survey will help me in setting up my business to best meet the needs
of
> potential customers. The information will be destroyed once the data is
> analyzed. Your time and effort in completing this survey would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Visit on the following link to complete the survey:
>
> http://homepage.usask.ca/~jmb897/survey.htm
>
>

Peter Charles
March 16th, 2004, 10:58 PM
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:23:36 -0800, "bassrecord"
> wrote:

>Hey Joe,
>Some of us replied to your survey. Some of us would invite you to post here
>how many people responded to your survey and what your results are?
>
>As a bass fisherman, flying in to No, Saskatchewan is not high on my
>priority fishing list so my survey response might not be too useful to your
>study. FWIW your survey questions were not structured in such a manner to
>find out what it would take to induce me to become a part of your
>theoritecial business plan.
>
>Good luck!
>John


John, just thinking the same thing. It's more important to determine
how people make decisions on which fishing vacation to take rather
than ask a limited set of questions that revolve around Saskatchewan.

You're a perfect example, in that as a bass fisherman, you have no
interest in the area. However, they may be things you want in a
fishing vacation that could be fullfilled in a trip to North Sask,
However, this survey would not capture that information, nor would it
enable someone to create a fishing lodge that could cater to it.

Peter

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March 17th, 2004, 04:07 AM
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:22:42 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
> wrote:


>On the other hand, it is highly likely that your professor is assigning you
>to do research that he will turn around and use commercially. It is very
>common practice in the college and university environment for instructors to
>do this.


Then he'll learn that a self selecting survey of anonymous 'Net users
is very apt to be misleading and he'll ruin his own reputation with
his buyers. There's a reason that paid marketers chose their focus
groups carefully.
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Often taunted by trout.
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Kevin
March 17th, 2004, 04:51 AM
How much you want for it?
"Wayne Harrison" > wrote in message
.com...
> > > Joe wrote:
> > > > My name is Joe Bell and for a school project I am making a business
> plan
> > for
> > > > a fly-in fishing lodge in Northern Saskatchewan. Information
gathered
> > from
> > > > this survey will help me in setting up my business to best meet the
> > needs of
> > > > potential customers. The information will be destroyed once the data
> is
> > > > analyzed. Your time and effort in completing this survey would be
> > greatly
> > > > appreciated.
>
> tom responded:
> . In
> > > case this is outside your current range of interests and you are
mining
> > valuable
> > > data without compensation, kindly note my email address.
> > >
> > > Tom
>
>
> > then, chris said:
> > You must be happy camping company.. kids doing a school project, sheesh.
> >
> > as a matter of fact, he is one of the finest boon companions a man
> could ever hope for. and if you think this "kid" is innocently gathering
> data for a school project, then fill out his questionnaire and hush.
>
> and, in the meantime, i have a little bridge in brooklyn i need to
> unload for next to nothing...
>
> wayno
>
>