cat fish baits

[brian]

i think this group needs to list more baits please lets here all ideas

[Rodney]

brian wrote:

> i think this group needs to list more baits please lets here all ideas
>

Best bought bait for channel and blues is "Squid"

Stays on the hook, I have on numerous occasions caught 4 fish on the
same piece of bait. It is bought at the finer grocery stores, (if you
don't live near the beach) it comes in a 3 lb box, that I take home,
thaw out, and repackage two squid to the baggy , and re freeze, just two
of these squid can bait your lines all night.

Next best bought bait is shrimp, they don't stay on as well, and they
need to be thawed a while to get that smell right.

Next best is rooster liver, fresh, not frozen, if possible, frozen if
not, followed by regular fresh liver, then frozen liver

Big grass hoppers, cats love these

Live or dead minnows

Crawfish , these always work

Dead shad is about the best natural bait, but comes off the hook easily
Followed by dead small bream , or cut bream

Cut Ship Jack also works

Night crawler worms are also good, as well as cataba worms

Wieners actually do work, but believe it or not, even miniature marsh
mellows work in farm ponds.

All of the home made baits, and bought ones come after these.
>

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Straight Up Hooks ,
Straight Up Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights,
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

[Robb Nunya]

On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 11:02:50 -0500, Rodney > scribed:

>brian wrote:
>
>> i think this group needs to list more baits please lets here all ideas
>>
----snip----
>Cut Ship Jack also works
----snip----

What is this?

[Pepperoni]

"Robb Nunya" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 11:02:50 -0500, Rodney > scribed:
>
> >brian wrote:
> >
> >> i think this group needs to list more baits please lets here all ideas
> >>
> ----snip----
> >Cut Ship Jack also works
> ----snip----
>
> What is this?

Skip Jack is a small tuna maybe 6-12 pounds, similar to bonita.

For cats I prefer using 1/4 inch slices of all beef hot dogs. (not
skinless) Hook in and out through the skin. Channel cats love them, and
suck them right up. They seem to lie flat in our little river without
rolling around. Works best after dusk when you know the channel cats are
feeding because this bait draws soft shelled turtles like I can't believe.

I often fish with sweet corn for carp until dusk, then switch to hot dog at
dusk for channel cats. I call these my "Picnic Baits".

[barbz]

Rodney wrote:
> brian wrote:
>
>> i think this group needs to list more baits please lets here all ideas
>>
>
> Best bought bait for channel and blues is "Squid"
>
> Stays on the hook, I have on numerous occasions caught 4 fish on the
> same piece of bait. It is bought at the finer grocery stores, (if you
> don't live near the beach) it comes in a 3 lb box, that I take home,
> thaw out, and repackage two squid to the baggy , and re freeze, just two
> of these squid can bait your lines all night.
>
> Next best bought bait is shrimp, they don't stay on as well, and they
> need to be thawed a while to get that smell right.
>
> Next best is rooster liver, fresh, not frozen, if possible, frozen if
> not, followed by regular fresh liver, then frozen liver
>
> Big grass hoppers, cats love these
>
> Live or dead minnows
>
> Crawfish , these always work
>
> Dead shad is about the best natural bait, but comes off the hook easily
> Followed by dead small bream , or cut bream
>
> Cut Ship Jack also works
>
> Night crawler worms are also good, as well as cataba worms
>
> Wieners actually do work, but believe it or not, even miniature marsh
> mellows work in farm ponds.
>
> All of the home made baits, and bought ones come after these.
>
>>
>

You forgot mackerel! I have some slabs w/ skin on frozen, ready to go.
Catfish love mackerel, and the skin is tough enough to keep it on the
hook. The weather's finally cooling down in the back country here, so
I'm planning on hitting the lakes soon. Wheee!

Crikey, would you look at this? I don't have to work today, and I'm up
at 4:30 am anyways. Sheesh. I'd go fishing today, but I plan on smoking
up a batch of yellowtail and bonito today. Yum!

barbz
barb

[Rodney]

Robb Nunya wrote:


>
>>Cut Ship Jack also works
>
> ----snip----
>
> What is this?

Skip Jack "Herring"
http://www.gen.umn.edu/research/fish/fishes/skipjack_herring.html

That's a small one shown

WE call them the Alabama fresh water tarpon.

They are found in swift water below dams mostly, they reach maybe 3 lbs,
they are more fun catching than any fresh water species on ultra light
gear, they do some fantastic leaps when hooked, they have a server under
bite, just like a tarpon, heck to me they look like a small tarpon.

You fish for them throwing small white jigs, usually two jigs on the
line, and retrieving them real fast, just barely under the water.

When they are running and your using ultra light gear, 2 to 4 lb test
line, you say to hell with fishing for anything else, these guys are
just plane fun to catch. I've never heard of anyone eating them, they
have a very strong odor, and cut up they make fine catfish bait
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Straight Up Hooks ,
Straight Up Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights,
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

[Rodney]

barbz wrote:


>
> You forgot mackerel! I have some slabs w/ skin on frozen, ready to go.
> Catfish love mackerel, and the skin is tough enough to keep it on the
> hook.

I try hard not to fish with what I want to eat :-)

I'll buy a few shrimp, and squid for bait, but I eat the Mack's

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Straight Up Hooks ,
Straight Up Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights,
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

[barbz]

Rodney wrote:
> barbz wrote:
>
>
>>
>> You forgot mackerel! I have some slabs w/ skin on frozen, ready to go.
>> Catfish love mackerel, and the skin is tough enough to keep it on the
>> hook.
>
>
> I try hard not to fish with what I want to eat :-)
>
> I'll buy a few shrimp, and squid for bait, but I eat the Mack's
>

Are you on the east coast? The common, or Pacific mackerel we catch here
are pretty strong tasting and oily, not really suitable for anything but
smoking or using for catfish bait. I have smoked them, and they're
pretty tasty that way, but it takes a heap of fillets to get anything
useful. You have to cut out the bloodline or you've got cat food.
Spanish macks, on the other hand, are quite edible, so I've heard.

You do see pacmacks for sale at grocery stores sometimes, mostly in
Latino neighborhoods, so people do eat them. I've tried cooking it, but
it's pretty rank compared with other stuff we catch around here. Lots of
fun to catch on a single hook jig, which makes them easy to release.

Pacific Mackerel:
http://www.pierfishing.com/fish_of_the_month/mackerel.html

barbz

[Rodney]

barbz wrote:


> Are you on the east coast?

L.A. Lower Alabama :-)


The common, or Pacific mackerel we catch here
> are pretty strong tasting and oily, not really suitable for anything but
> smoking or using for catfish bait.



WE have Spanish and King Macks




--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Straight Up Hooks ,
Straight Up Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights,
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

[barbz]

Rodney wrote:
> barbz wrote:
>
>
>> Are you on the east coast?
>
>
> L.A. Lower Alabama :-)
>
>
> The common, or Pacific mackerel we catch here
>
>> are pretty strong tasting and oily, not really suitable for anything
>> but smoking or using for catfish bait.
>
>
>
>
> WE have Spanish and King Macks
>
>
>
>

Ah...them are eatin' fish! Pacific macks are fun to catch, but
taste-wise, they suck.

barbz

[The Fishing Guy]

Here are some more suggestions for the catfish bait subject.

1) Leeches - squid seem similar to leeches from what I read in the
earlier post. I have liked leeches because the are easy to hook.
They are durable and can last for a very long time on the hook. I
have had better luck catching cats using a "live" presentation and
often prefer leeches because they can live a long time while hooked.
They can even last through multiple catches. I have used them to work
the bottom.

2) Stink baits (cheese baits, dough baits) - my second choice, when I
am serious about cats, is a good cheese or dough bait. These can be
bought in bait stores but also made at home. I have had friends that
had their own personal "recipes". I usually mold the bait around a
trebel hook. Good ones will last for a little while on the hook.
These baits are not as good at working an area as the bait can wear
off.

3) Chicken livers - I have several friends that have caught good sized
cats using chicken livers. Their strategy? Cast and wait. Usually
this would be one of the baits they choose during fishing
all-nighters. I have used chicken livers for bait but not had the
success that my friends had. Sometimes there just needs to be a good
match between you and the bait. Know what I mean?

4) Bluegill - Again this has, in the past, been a favorite of friends
of mine. Their strategy? Cast and wait. They've either hooked small
ones through the back or cut up slightly larger ones. Probably in
much the same way others say they use mackerel. The biggest catch
I've had was a 15 pound snapping turtle! With some patience I got it
off the hook with almost no hook damage.

I think the next time I'll try a little squid. I don't expect they'll
stick to your fingers while you're trying to hook them!


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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 12:08:55 GMT, "brian"
> wrote:

>i think this group needs to list more baits please lets here all ideas
>

[ARTHURLAKEERIE]

NEW Catfish bait on ebay .called gettinghooked big wiskers. it works .i think
thir are other kinds to .onely tried one. we got cats all night. some realy
big ones.--- art