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Calif Bill
September 19th, 2003, 08:13 PM
http://www.sdhookandline.com/knots/sandiegojamknot.html and just loop the
upper loop over your finger to let the jig hang down on the line and then
wrap the line the five turns around the hanging jig before running the tag
end through the wraps and loops.
Bill

"Calif Bill" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Use a San Diego Jam Knot. Is what the sal****er guys use for tieing on
> irons and jigs. Is really quick and easy with a jig. not so with just a
> hook. I will find a link to tieing it.
> Bill
>
> "Scott Seidman" > wrote in message
> . 1.4...
> > "Bob Rickard" > wrote in
> > . com:
> >
> > > You want the snap, not a snap-swivel (unless you are fishing inline
> > > spinners)! Use a good swivel only on Carolina rigs and soft jerkbaits.
> > > For the rest of your fishing, use good snaps such as Doulock and you
> > > are in business.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bob Rickard
> > > www.secretweaponlures.com
> > > --------------------------<=x O')))><
> > >
> > >
> > > "CR" > wrote in message
> > > om...
> > >> I know snap swivels are bad when you hook them right to the lure, but
> > >> what if I use a leader? What if I pre-tied 6 inch leaders with a loop
> > >> to all my favorite lures so I could just snap them to the swivel? Has
> > >> anyone tried that?
> > >>
> > >> Chuck.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Every once in a while, though, you'll probably need to retie the knot on
> > the snap.
> >
> > Scott
>
>

Scott Seidman
September 19th, 2003, 08:59 PM
"Calif Bill" > wrote in
ink.net:

> http://www.sdhookandline.com/knots/sandiegojamknot.html and just loop
> the upper loop over your finger to let the jig hang down on the line
> and then wrap the line the five turns around the hanging jig before
> running the tag end through the wraps and loops.
> Bill
>
> "Calif Bill" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>> Use a San Diego Jam Knot. Is what the sal****er guys use for tieing
>> on irons and jigs. Is really quick and easy with a jig. not so with
>> just a hook. I will find a link to tieing it.
>> Bill
>>

That might be a fine knot, but no way no how easier to tie than your
standard clinch knot. The OP seems to be intimidated by knots. The Palomar
is fast and simple. follow the Palomar link on the same page. Basically,
double the line through the hook eye, tie a loose overhand knot, pass the
bait through the resulting loop, and pull tight. My uncoordinated wife can
tie it, and know that she tied a knot as strong or stronger than anything I
can tie.

As a fly fisherman, I see people constantly obsess over knots. There are
dozens of waterproof knot books available for your vest pocket. This is a
pet peeve of mine. My opinion is that if you ever need to look up a knot in
a book in your vest pocket, that's not a knot you need to be tying on the
water. You need to try it in your living room a few dozen times, learn it,
then take it on the water.

Calif Bill
September 22nd, 2003, 08:26 PM
I use palomar on hooks. But on the jigs, the SD jam knot is easier. You
get to hang the jig from the line while the tag end is looped over your
finger, and just wrap the line by going under the jig while going around the
line.
Bill

"Scott Seidman" > wrote in message
.4...
> "Calif Bill" > wrote in
> ink.net:
>
> > http://www.sdhookandline.com/knots/sandiegojamknot.html and just loop
> > the upper loop over your finger to let the jig hang down on the line
> > and then wrap the line the five turns around the hanging jig before
> > running the tag end through the wraps and loops.
> > Bill
> >
> > "Calif Bill" > wrote in message
> > ink.net...
> >> Use a San Diego Jam Knot. Is what the sal****er guys use for tieing
> >> on irons and jigs. Is really quick and easy with a jig. not so with
> >> just a hook. I will find a link to tieing it.
> >> Bill
> >>
>
> That might be a fine knot, but no way no how easier to tie than your
> standard clinch knot. The OP seems to be intimidated by knots. The
Palomar
> is fast and simple. follow the Palomar link on the same page. Basically,
> double the line through the hook eye, tie a loose overhand knot, pass the
> bait through the resulting loop, and pull tight. My uncoordinated wife
can
> tie it, and know that she tied a knot as strong or stronger than anything
I
> can tie.
>
> As a fly fisherman, I see people constantly obsess over knots. There are
> dozens of waterproof knot books available for your vest pocket. This is a
> pet peeve of mine. My opinion is that if you ever need to look up a knot
in
> a book in your vest pocket, that's not a knot you need to be tying on the
> water. You need to try it in your living room a few dozen times, learn
it,
> then take it on the water.

Grady Johnson
September 24th, 2003, 08:20 AM
Guys...
Why make such a fuss over knots? The Palomar knot leaves a big hunk
of line at the top of the hook...the Jam knot is harder to tie than the
Improved Clinch knot....so why argue with success? I been using the
Improved Clinch knot for years because it has the same strength as an
un-tied line and has a compact body at the top of the hook. Just learn to
tie it faster so you can keep fishin..........

Grady

Scott Seidman
September 24th, 2003, 01:49 PM
"Grady Johnson" > wrote in
:

> Guys...
> Why make such a fuss over knots? The Palomar knot leaves a big
> hunk
> of line at the top of the hook...the Jam knot is harder to tie than
> the Improved Clinch knot....so why argue with success? I been using
> the Improved Clinch knot for years because it has the same strength as
> an un-tied line and has a compact body at the top of the hook. Just
> learn to tie it faster so you can keep fishin..........
>
> Grady
>
>
>
Actually, I've been hearing test reports lately that the unimproved clinch
is better than the clinch in many line sizes, especially light lines.

But, you're right. The best knot you can tie is usually the one you can
tie fast and accurately. I know, for example, that I forego blood knots
during winter fishing, when my hands a just too cold to tie them, for the
surgeons knot.

Scott