Fishing Scotland

[Michael McCaugherty]

G'day,

There is the possibility that I may be in Scotland this May. Would there be
any advice out there about the possibility of wetting a line in the land of
Robbie Burns?

I am planning to give fly fishing a try this summer. Would taking an
inaugural fly fishing expedition in the highlands be asking too much?

Michael

[Sam Salmon]

All it takes in money-lots of it.





On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 01:36:55 GMT, "Michael McCaugherty"
> wrote:

>G'day,
>
>There is the possibility that I may be in Scotland this May. Would there be
>any advice out there about the possibility of wetting a line in the land of
>Robbie Burns?
>
>I am planning to give fly fishing a try this summer. Would taking an
>inaugural fly fishing expedition in the highlands be asking too much?
>
>Michael
>

[pmfpa]

I was in Scotland last December and found a nice little guide, Fishing
Scotland. Sold for 5.50 pounds and is available at
http://www.fishing-scotland.co.uk/rosguide.htm. You might want to get that.
I was happy to see that there are many lochs and rivers where a day of
fishing could be taken for less than 10 pounds, but you certainly need to
get the right permits. Everything you may need is in the guide.

"Michael McCaugherty" > wrote in message
. cable.rogers.com...
> G'day,
>
> There is the possibility that I may be in Scotland this May. Would there
be
> any advice out there about the possibility of wetting a line in the land
of
> Robbie Burns?
>
> I am planning to give fly fishing a try this summer. Would taking an
> inaugural fly fishing expedition in the highlands be asking too much?
>
> Michael
>
>

[Jeff Miller]

i take it from your note that it isn't permitted to simply buy a fishing
license and then go exploring for a stream where one can fish as desired
without a guide or payment for the privilege?

jeff

pmfpa wrote:

>
> http://www.fishing-scotland.co.uk/rosguide.htm. You might want to get that.
> I was happy to see that there are many lochs and rivers where a day of
> fishing could be taken for less than 10 pounds, but you certainly need to
> get the right permits. Everything you may need is in the guide.
>

[riverman]

"Jeff Miller" > wrote in message
news:q09Qb.6743$_H5.5434@lakeread06...
> i take it from your note that it isn't permitted to simply buy a fishing
> license and then go exploring for a stream where one can fish as desired
> without a guide or payment for the privilege?
>
>
Well, sure you can. Just don't get caught.

I was astounded last summer in Devon and Cornwall to discover that all the
water that had fish (except the sal****er) was privately owned and/or
managed by clubs. Sometimes you needed a different license to stand on the
far bank (I assume that it also meant you could only wade halfway across).
In addition, it was often difficult to locate the proper person for
obtaining a license, and often they weren't available to nonmembers anyway.
I came away with a much more full understanding of the causes of the
Revolutionary War, and a deeper appreciation of the result.

--riverman

[Sandy]

Michael McCaugherty wrote:
> G'day,
>
> There is the possibility that I may be in Scotland this May. Would
> there be any advice out there about the possibility of wetting a line
> in the land of Robbie Burns?
>
> I am planning to give fly fishing a try this summer. Would taking an
> inaugural fly fishing expedition in the highlands be asking too much?
>
> Michael

Where do I start!!

When in May and where are you staying?

Try here for places to fish.

http://www.where-to-fish.com/content/2d.html

Click on the link below for the legal bit.

http://www.flyfish-scotland.com/scotslaw.htm

Now that we have got that out of the way it really isn't that difficult to
find free/cheap fishing as long as you know where to go. You mentioned the
highlands, I have a weeks camping/fishing trip to the highlands every year
in May, and it has never cost more than £100/$180us and that includes
travel.

I have fished Attadale, great if you don't mind the 13 mile walk to most of
the lochs, which is free, Lochinver, £30 for a weeks fishing on approx. 150
lochs, Kilmelford, used to be £25 for the weeks fishing but may be higher
now, which has approx 20 lochs.

If you want to read more of these places go to my website and click on the
links in the navigation bar.

If you can supply me with a bit more information I may be able to put
something together for you, can't promise though :)


--
Don`t Worry, Be Happy

Sandy
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[Lazarus Cooke]

In article >, riverman
> wrote:

> "Jeff Miller" > wrote in message
> news:q09Qb.6743$_H5.5434@lakeread06...
> > i take it from your note that it isn't permitted to simply buy a fishing
> > license and then go exploring for a stream where one can fish as desired
> > without a guide or payment for the privilege?
> >
> >
> Well, sure you can. Just don't get caught.
>
> I was astounded last summer in Devon and Cornwall to discover that all the
> water that had fish (except the sal****er) was privately owned and/or
> managed by clubs. Sometimes you needed a different license to stand on the
> far bank (I assume that it also meant you could only wade halfway across).
> In addition, it was often difficult to locate the proper person for
> obtaining a license, and often they weren't available to nonmembers anyway.
> I came away with a much more full understanding of the causes of the
> Revolutionary War, and a deeper appreciation of the result.

Sorry we didn't meet then, riverman.

the thing is that there are an awful lot of people crammed into one
tiny island - I think it's about a third of the population of the US.

Some clubs, such as the Salisbury and District, which controls some of
the finest spring creek ('chalk stream') waters, cost only $150 a year.
If it was free-for-all, I don't think there would be any fish left in
England.

And I can tell you that even after our successful (Irish) revolutionary
war, the situation in the republic, in rivers at least, is the same.
Only four million people, there - half the population 150 years ago,
too.

Lazarus

--
Remover the rock from the email address

[Lazarus Cooke]

In article <q09Qb.6743$_H5.5434@lakeread06>, Jeff Miller
> wrote:

> i take it from your note that it isn't permitted to simply buy a fishing
> license and then go exploring for a stream where one can fish as desired
> without a guide or payment for the privilege?

What's more in a lot of parts of scotland fishing on a sunday is
illegal. The scots are a god-fearing bunch.

:L

--
Remover the rock from the email address

[Willi]

riverman wrote:

> In addition, it was often difficult to locate the proper person for
> obtaining a license, and often they weren't available to nonmembers anyway.
> I came away with a much more full understanding of the causes of the
> Revolutionary War, and a deeper appreciation of the result.


As Americans, it is easy for us to take our public lands for granted.
Privitizing them is NOT a good choice.

Willi

[pmfpa]

That is very true. In the US, aside from many questions about stream access
and trespassing, once you can get into the stream the state owns the fish
and can give you a license to take them. My understanding is that in the
UK, the land and the fish are private. As noted below, everywhere you fish
requires a permit. While this may seem quite a hassle, there are many
instances where you can buy a week long permit for a river of some size for
not too much money.

"Jeff Miller" > wrote in message
news:q09Qb.6743$_H5.5434@lakeread06...
> i take it from your note that it isn't permitted to simply buy a fishing
> license and then go exploring for a stream where one can fish as desired
> without a guide or payment for the privilege?
>
> jeff
>
> pmfpa wrote:
>
> >
> > http://www.fishing-scotland.co.uk/rosguide.htm. You might want to get
that.
> > I was happy to see that there are many lochs and rivers where a day of
> > fishing could be taken for less than 10 pounds, but you certainly need
to
> > get the right permits. Everything you may need is in the guide.
> >
>

[Michael McCaugherty]

Thanks!

I am going to have to sort through some of the stuff. The little discussion
about the property issue was unexpected but informative. I am in Canada the
biggest property issue I have come across is asking the shore owner
permission to cross his land.

Thanks again. I think I will have a few questions in the future as I try to
wade into fly fishing.

Michael

[Hooked]

"Lazarus Cooke" > wrote in message
om...
>
> What's more in a lot of parts of scotland fishing on a sunday is
> illegal. The scots are a god-fearing bunch.
>


Sounds like what some of the religious fanatics here in the States want to
do.

Impose their self centered ideas on everyone's rights.

Damn sure would be nice if they went fishing more often instead of sitting
around complaining about the rest of us fishing!!

[Lazarus Cooke]

In article . net>,
pmfpa > wrote:

> That is very true. In the US, aside from many questions about stream access
> and trespassing, once you can get into the stream the state owns the fish
> and can give you a license to take them.

Sounds like pinko liberal communism to me.

> My understanding is that in the
> UK, the land and the fish are private.

Yessir. The Uk's a land of free enterprise and opportunity for all.

At least the US appoints its head of state in the same way as the Brits
do, and appoints the vastly wealthy son of a previous head of state,
rather than the socialist notion of taking someone who's won the most
votes at an election.

Neither Charles nor George W may be very bright, but who cares?

(And incidentally Charles, who as well as being Prince of Wales is also
Duke of Cornwall, charges very reasonable rates for his Duchy of
Cornwall waters, which include wonderful fishing on Dartmoor -- Hound
of the Baskervilles territory. )

Lazarus

--
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[Nogood Boyo]

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 at 21:21:19 in rec.outdoors.fishing.fly pmfpa wrote:
>My understanding is that in the UK, the land and the fish are private.

Not quite... It's complicated..! And the position is not the same
throughout the UK (England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland). And the
Republic of Ireland is completely different.

In England and Wales the fishing rights in most waters are privately
owned - usually as a result of a grant by the crown to some ******* who
trampled over the land and subdued the natives almost a thousand years
ago [1].

There are exceptions, such as some tidal waters, where there's a public
right to fish. But normally the presumption is that the owner of the
bank owns the fishing rights to the middle line. But fishing rights can
be (and often are) separated from ownership of land. In many areas the
fishing rights have been acquired by clubs for their members. Fishing
is usually available in most areas for a modest fee, but it's necessary
to make enquiries and get permission. It's not a good idea to fish
without seeking permission.

The fish themselves (in running water) belong to no-one. But it's an
offence to fish in private waters.

> As noted below, everywhere you fish requires a permit.

"Permit" is the word usually used to describe the permission obtained
from the owner of the fishing rights. It's different from and
additional to the "rod licence" which everyone has to obtain from the
Environment Agency before fishing anywhere.

> While this may seem quite a hassle, there are many instances where
>you can buy a week long permit for a river of some size for not too
>much money.

Yes. Seek and ye shall find. Google the area and ask in
uk.rec.fishing.game


The legal position in Scotland is explained at
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/?pageID=99


[1] The rights on my local river can be traced back to a grant by King
John in 1203 to one of his Norman cronies. :-(

--
Nogood Boyo

[Hooked]

"Nogood Boyo" > wrote in message
...
>
>(snip)
>
> In England and Wales the fishing rights in most waters are privately
> owned - usually as a result of a grant by the crown to some ******* who
> trampled over the land and subdued the natives almost a thousand years
> ago [1].
>
>(snip)
>
> [1] The rights on my local river can be traced back to a grant by King
> John in 1203 to one of his Norman cronies. :-(
>


Sounds to me like the British Empire needs to suffer defeat from another
Revolution. One by it's own citizens!!

[Mu Young Lee]

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004, Lazarus Cooke wrote:
>
> And incidentally Charles, who as well as being Prince of Wales is also
> Duke of Cornwall, charges very reasonable rates for his Duchy of
> Cornwall waters, which include wonderful fishing on Dartmoor

<chuckle>

Mu

[smiles]

A good many salmon rivers here in Eastern Canada have privately owned
sections that were accorded to families when Canada was first colonized.

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"Nogood Boyo" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 at 21:21:19 in rec.outdoors.fishing.fly pmfpa wrote:
> >My understanding is that in the UK, the land and the fish are private.
>
> Not quite... It's complicated..! And the position is not the same
> throughout the UK (England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland). And the
> Republic of Ireland is completely different.
>
> In England and Wales the fishing rights in most waters are privately
> owned - usually as a result of a grant by the crown to some ******* who
> trampled over the land and subdued the natives almost a thousand years
> ago [1].
>
> There are exceptions, such as some tidal waters, where there's a public
> right to fish. But normally the presumption is that the owner of the
> bank owns the fishing rights to the middle line. But fishing rights can
> be (and often are) separated from ownership of land. In many areas the
> fishing rights have been acquired by clubs for their members. Fishing
> is usually available in most areas for a modest fee, but it's necessary
> to make enquiries and get permission. It's not a good idea to fish
> without seeking permission.
>
> The fish themselves (in running water) belong to no-one. But it's an
> offence to fish in private waters.
>
> > As noted below, everywhere you fish requires a permit.
>
> "Permit" is the word usually used to describe the permission obtained
> from the owner of the fishing rights. It's different from and
> additional to the "rod licence" which everyone has to obtain from the
> Environment Agency before fishing anywhere.
>
> > While this may seem quite a hassle, there are many instances where
> >you can buy a week long permit for a river of some size for not too
> >much money.
>
> Yes. Seek and ye shall find. Google the area and ask in
> uk.rec.fishing.game
>
>
> The legal position in Scotland is explained at
> http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/?pageID=99
>
>
> [1] The rights on my local river can be traced back to a grant by King
> John in 1203 to one of his Norman cronies. :-(
>
> --
> Nogood Boyo

[Hooked]

"Greg Pavlov" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> A friend of mine owns a house on the Spey,
> but she does not have the right to fish it:
> someone else owns the fishing rights.


I do believe that I would have to get to know my neighbors real good.

Or is this "someone else" some sort of "Duke of Something" with a rod up his
ass?

[Sandy]

Hooked wrote:
> "Greg Pavlov" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> A friend of mine owns a house on the Spey,
>> but she does not have the right to fish it:
>> someone else owns the fishing rights.
>
>
> I do believe that I would have to get to know my neighbors real good.
>
> Or is this "someone else" some sort of "Duke of Something" with a rod
> up his ass?

I think she probably has the right to fish it for trout if she owns the land
down to the bank as it is only the salmon/seatrout fishing that can be sold
seperately from the land.

--
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Sandy
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[Wolfgang]

"Greg Pavlov" > wrote in message
...

> Many of the waters in the US will eventually be
> controlled in a similar manner, tho I would guess
> there will also be a lot of access by lottery.

Maybe. Fly fishing has steadily gained in popularity for the last twenty
years and the trend certainly could continue, but there is no reason to
suppose that it is necessarily so. Consider, for example, the likelihood
that the average age of fly fishers is probably higher than that for many
other outdoor activities. I mean, let's face it, this isn't going to make
anyone's list of x-games. It's not unreasonable to posit that there are a
lot more fly fishers today largely because there are a lot of baby boomers
getting to the age at which waving a stick in the air seems a lot more
appealing that launching themselves through it by one means or another.
Eventually (and not all that long from now), we're going to begin pushing up
daisies at a higher rate than we are currently trampling them on route to a
favorite fishing hole, and there is no guarantee that new recruits will
arrive fast enough to make up for attrition. Then too, fly fishing as it is
practiced in the U.S. today depends pretty heavily on a general level of
affluence that we have come to take for granted for a couple of generations
but which recent evidence suggests may not continue indefinitely.

Wolfgang

[JR]

Wolfgang wrote:
>
> "Greg Pavlov" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Many of the waters in the US will eventually be
> > controlled in a similar manner, tho I would guess
> > there will also be a lot of access by lottery.
>
> Maybe. Fly fishing has steadily gained in popularity for the last twenty
> years and the trend certainly could continue, but there is no reason to
> suppose that it is necessarily so.

There is some evidence the trend has already reversed itself:

http://tinyurl.com/2reol

> Consider, for example, the likelihood
> that the average age of fly fishers is probably higher than that for many
> other outdoor activities.

I believe there are statistics to this effect, but haven't got the time
to do a search.

> ...... It's not unreasonable to posit that there are a
> lot more fly fishers today largely because there are a lot of baby boomers
> getting to the age at which waving a stick in the air seems a lot more
> appealing that launching themselves through it by one means or another.

And will be getting to an age at which strolling on the local golf
course may seem more appealing than searching for, catching and
releasing the 10,000th trout.

JR

[Tim J.]

"Wolfgang" wrote...
> "Greg Pavlov" wrote...
>
> > Many of the waters in the US will eventually be
> > controlled in a similar manner, tho I would guess
> > there will also be a lot of access by lottery.
>
> Maybe. Fly fishing has steadily gained in popularity for the last twenty
> years and the trend certainly could continue, but there is no reason to
> suppose that it is necessarily so. Consider, for example, the likelihood
> that the average age of fly fishers is probably higher than that for many
> other outdoor activities.

Another factor that may possibly stay the masses is that it's been a while since
anyone ran a recruitment campaign by making a movie glorifying the sport.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[Bill P]

Own it but cannot fish it?! And yet another collective pin in the voodoo
doll of flyfisherpersons... At least us older farts still active and are
not being put off by some ill-mannered newcomer totally dressed to the 9's
in Orvis garb and gear wading right down the middle of the stream as in the
days just after "A river ran through it!" This is the ONE thing about the
downturn that makes it worth while going out again.

Bill in Phx.



"Hooked" > wrote in message
...
> "Greg Pavlov" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > A friend of mine owns a house on the Spey,
> > but she does not have the right to fish it:
> > someone else owns the fishing rights.
>
>
> I do believe that I would have to get to know my neighbors real good.
>
> Or is this "someone else" some sort of "Duke of Something" with a rod up
his
> ass?
>
>
>
>

[Willi]

Wolfgang wrote:
Then too, fly fishing as it is
> practiced in the U.S. today depends pretty heavily on a general level of
> affluence that we have come to take for granted for a couple of generations
> but which recent evidence suggests may not continue indefinitely.




I think interest is waning. I think fly fishing is on its way to once
again being judged as eccentric instead of cool.

Willi

[Tim J.]

"Willi" wrote...
> Wolfgang wrote:
> Then too, fly fishing as it is
> > practiced in the U.S. today depends pretty heavily on a general level of
> > affluence that we have come to take for granted for a couple of generations
> > but which recent evidence suggests may not continue indefinitely.
>
> I think interest is waning. I think fly fishing is on its way to once
> again being judged as eccentric instead of cool.

Well, then, that's it for me. I'm already WAY too cool for this crowd.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

[rw]

Wolfgang wrote:
>
> I mean, let's face it, this isn't going to make
> anyone's list of x-games.

Obviously, you've never fished with Bruiser. :-)

--
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[Wolfgang]

"rw" > wrote in message
. ..
> Wolfgang wrote:
> >
> > I mean, let's face it, this isn't going to make
> > anyone's list of x-games.
>
> Obviously, you've never fished with Bruiser. :-)

Nope, haven't had the pleasure. However, I'm not yet so decrepit or jaded
that I'll dismiss the prospect of a bit of adventure out of hand. Is he
likely to make me do anything much more strenuous or dangerous than climbing
waterfalls with a fly rod clamped in my teeth?

Wolfgang
who would like a detailed prospectus with photos, route maps, rescue
options, etc., if so. :)

[Hooked]

"JR" > wrote in message ...
>
> And will be getting to an age at which strolling on the local golf
> course may seem more appealing than searching for, catching and
> releasing the 10,000th trout.


This is total bull****!!!

Golfing is for those who don't know how to fish!!!!!!

[Hooked]

"Tim J." > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Well, then, that's it for me. I'm already WAY too cool for this crowd.


Only if you live in a far northern climate than I do.

Go fishing here right now and you won't be cool, you'll be frozen!!!!!

[Hooked]

"smiles" > wrote in message
...
> A good many salmon rivers here in Eastern Canada have privately owned
> sections that were accorded to families when Canada was first colonized.
>
> --


Damn French colonies are no better than the Limey *******s!!

[JR]

Hooked wrote:
>
> "JR" > wrote in message ...
> >
> > And will be getting to an age at which strolling on the local golf
> > course may seem more appealing than searching for, catching and
> > releasing the 10,000th trout.
>
> This is total bull****!!!

Just commenting on social trends, not endorsing them. :(

> Golfing is for those who don't know how to fish!!!!!!

Not to mention that most golf courses are small-scale environmental
disasters.

JR
--BTW, you misspelled !!!! and !!!!!!!!!! <g>

[Hooked]

"JR" > wrote in message ...
>
> Not to mention that most golf courses are small-scale environmental
> disasters.
>


Oh. A golf course? No problem!!! We'll just fill in this here lake and
you'll have your course in no time. So long as you can line the local Army
Corps of Engineers pockets...

[Scott Seidman]

(Greg Pavlov) wrote in news:4018fd35.17512511
@news.cis.dfn.de:

> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:22:52 -0700, Willi > wrote:
>
>>
>>I think interest is waning. I think fly fishing is on its way to once
>>again being judged as eccentric instead of cool.
>
> It doesn't seem that way around here, in western
> NY. Some of that may be because a lot of people
> here fish for steelhead in pretty much the same
> way, regardless of the tackle theyy're using.
>
> The number of people who flyfish sal****er seems
> to be increasing.

Flyfishing seems more popular than ever here, in fact, if you go by how
much floor space the big sports retailers are dedicating to it

Scott

[Nogood Boyo]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 at 10:46:22 in rec.outdoors.fishing.fly Sandy wrote:
>Hooked wrote:
>> "Greg Pavlov" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> A friend of mine owns a house on the Spey,
>>> but she does not have the right to fish it:
>>> someone else owns the fishing rights.
>>
>>
>> I do believe that I would have to get to know my neighbors real good.
>>
>> Or is this "someone else" some sort of "Duke of Something" with a rod
>> up his ass?
>
Could be anybody. A previous owner of the house might have sold to
anyone. Or the owner of the land might have retained the rights when
selling the land to the person who built the house. Loads of
possibilities... A "duke or something" probably features somewhere..!

>I think she probably has the right to fish it for trout if she owns the land
>down to the bank as it is only the salmon/seatrout fishing that can be sold
>seperately from the land.
>
As I said, the position in Scotland is different from that elsewhere in
the UK. In England and Wales there's no such distinction between trout
fishing and salmon / sea trout fishing.

--
Nogood Boyo

[Willi]

Scott Seidman wrote:

> (Greg Pavlov) wrote in news:4018fd35.17512511
> @news.cis.dfn.de:
>
>
>>On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:22:52 -0700, Willi > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I think interest is waning. I think fly fishing is on its way to once
>>>again being judged as eccentric instead of cool.
>>
>> It doesn't seem that way around here, in western
>> NY. Some of that may be because a lot of people
>> here fish for steelhead in pretty much the same
>> way, regardless of the tackle theyy're using.
>>
>> The number of people who flyfish sal****er seems
>> to be increasing.
>
>
> Flyfishing seems more popular than ever here, in fact, if you go by how
> much floor space the big sports retailers are dedicating to it
>
> Scott

Don't think the industry figures will back you up.

Maybe it's just that you guys back East are trying to be cool by doing
something that's "passe" in the rest of the Country.

Willi

[Scott Seidman]

Willi > wrote in news:4016e74f$0$70307$75868355
@news.frii.net:

>
>
> Scott Seidman wrote:
>
>> (Greg Pavlov) wrote in news:4018fd35.17512511
>> @news.cis.dfn.de:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:22:52 -0700, Willi > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I think interest is waning. I think fly fishing is on its way to once
>>>>again being judged as eccentric instead of cool.
>>>
>>> It doesn't seem that way around here, in western
>>> NY. Some of that may be because a lot of people
>>> here fish for steelhead in pretty much the same
>>> way, regardless of the tackle theyy're using.
>>>
>>> The number of people who flyfish sal****er seems
>>> to be increasing.
>>
>>
>> Flyfishing seems more popular than ever here, in fact, if you go by
how
>> much floor space the big sports retailers are dedicating to it
>>
>> Scott
>
> Don't think the industry figures will back you up.
>
> Maybe it's just that you guys back East are trying to be cool by doing
> something that's "passe" in the rest of the Country.
>
> Willi
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I might be sensitized, but I've noticed more fly fishing and tying events
in the last year or so than I used to. In general, I think most outdoor
sports are taking a spending hit, what with the economy the way it is,
and Kodak spitting out employees like they're watermelon seeds, but I
thing fly fishing is getting a bigger part of the fishing dollar over
here.

Scott

[Willi]

Wolfgang wrote:


> Wolfgang
> who would like a detailed prospectus with photos, route maps, rescue
> options, etc., if so. :)

We all know you're the original wild man, but photos and descriptions of
some of his exploits have been posted in the past.

Bruiser is a fun guy to fish with.

Willi

[Wolfgang]

"Willi" > wrote in message
...
>

> We all know you're the original wild man,

Well, NOW we do. Frankly, I hadn't been aware of that. Oh, I'm not so
decrepit or jaded as to dismiss the prospect of a bit of adventure out of
hand but, till now, I never knew that I was any sort of wild man.

> but photos and descriptions of
> some of his exploits have been posted in the past.

I don't remember any specifics, but I do have a vague recollection of some
references......sounds kinda fun.

> Bruiser is a fun guy to fish with.

I hope to be in a position to concur some day.

Wolfgang

[ezflyfisher]

Greg Pavlov wrote:

>
> Scott and I are more in far east / near midwest
> territory and in general we run quite late behind
> much of the rest of the country trend-wise.


greg, have ya heard about cortland 444 and the sage sp's yet? awesome
stuff bro.

wally

[jim bevan]

I live in Glasgow and have fished most areas of Scotland , where are you
going and what are you fishing for trout or salmon. I am a trout man but I
can put you in touch with salmon info if required.

Jim
"Sandy" > wrote in message
...
> Michael McCaugherty wrote:
> > G'day,
> >
> > There is the possibility that I may be in Scotland this May. Would
> > there be any advice out there about the possibility of wetting a line
> > in the land of Robbie Burns?
> >
> > I am planning to give fly fishing a try this summer. Would taking an
> > inaugural fly fishing expedition in the highlands be asking too much?
> >
> > Michael
>
> Where do I start!!
>
> When in May and where are you staying?
>
> Try here for places to fish.
>
> http://www.where-to-fish.com/content/2d.html
>
> Click on the link below for the legal bit.
>
> http://www.flyfish-scotland.com/scotslaw.htm
>
> Now that we have got that out of the way it really isn't that difficult to
> find free/cheap fishing as long as you know where to go. You mentioned the
> highlands, I have a weeks camping/fishing trip to the highlands every year
> in May, and it has never cost more than £100/$180us and that includes
> travel.
>
> I have fished Attadale, great if you don't mind the 13 mile walk to most
of
> the lochs, which is free, Lochinver, £30 for a weeks fishing on approx.
150
> lochs, Kilmelford, used to be £25 for the weeks fishing but may be higher
> now, which has approx 20 lochs.
>
> If you want to read more of these places go to my website and click on the
> links in the navigation bar.
>
> If you can supply me with a bit more information I may be able to put
> something together for you, can't promise though :)
>
>
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>
> Sandy
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