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October 7th, 2003, 10:42 PM
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:33:25 GMT, Robb Nunya >
wrote:

>On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 16:09:30 +0000 (UTC), "Richard"
> scribed:
>
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>>"mr natural" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "John" > wrote in message
>>> s.com...
>>> Fish much smarter than we imagined
>>>
>>> ___________________
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> FIRST they dismissed the three-second memory as a goldfish myth. Now
>>> scientists say that as well as being brain food for us, fish use their
>>> brains to find food themselves.
>>>
>>> Research by Phil Gee, a psychologist from Plymouth University, has
>>> shown that fish may not be the dunces of the food chain after all.
>>> In a three-month experiment, his research team found they could train
>>> goldfish to collect food at certain times of the day. Fish were taught
>>> to nudge a lever that released food into their bowls. According to the
>>> findings, the goldfish learned to push the lever when they were
>>> hungry. [...]
>>> ___________________
>>>
>>>
>>> If Phil had bothered to ask any aquarist, they could have told him that
>>fish
>>> are easily conditioned. Indeed, even the shrimp and starfish in my reef
>>> aquarium are conditioned. The things that the taxpayers' money get spent
>>on
>>> is mindboggling...
>>
>>Agreed ... they could have just come and seen the behaviour of the various
>>cold water species in my pond and saved theirselves a lot of time and tax
>>payers money .....
>>
>>so why is it that anglers pre-bait (if allowed) lol
>>
>>Who are these wallies that give these other wallies all this money of ours
>>to spend on pointless bloody work ?
>>
>>Richard
>>
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>
>They're known as "Our elected representatives"
>
>Sad isn't it?

No. It's what the majority of us want, the public, we do not like
animal abuse. You may well feel it OK to abuse animals in your cozy
little world, we don't, the majority rules.

Make the most of it while you can, it'll not last. If your conscience
doesn't prick you, society will force you.

Simple really.

If you really must fish, why not use magnetic fish in a bowl, sure
even you would have the mentality to work it out eventually?









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Phil.L
October 7th, 2003, 11:52 PM
Malcolm the tosspot wrote:
: On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:33:25 GMT, Robb Nunya >
: ::: Who are these wallies that give these other wallies all this money
::: of ours to spend on pointless bloody work ?
:::
::: Richard
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:: They're known as "Our elected representatives"
::
:: Sad isn't it?
:
: No. It's what the majority of us want, the public, we do not like
: animal abuse.

but by your logic, you are abusing animals now, by using electricity you are
polluting, or does that not count?

: You may well feel it OK to abuse animals in your cozy
: little world, we don't, the majority rules.

you do not represent the public, you are a minority, which is why your still
a 'movement' and not recieving large injections of cash from the government
as angling societies and waterways are.
Also cash from Camelot, and lots of it too!! (woo-hoo!)
:
: Make the most of it while you can, it'll not last. If your conscience
: doesn't prick you, society will force you.

you are not representative of society neither, you are a 'movement' (and a
pretty ****poor one at that)

society will have to force the government, who are putting millions into
angling, to ditch it first, which will still not stop it anyway as there's
an estimated four million anglers in the uk, more than who are actively
involved with :
Football
cricket
rugby (union and league)
and horseracing, all combined, pretty nifty eh?

:
: Simple really.
:
: If you really must fish, why not use magnetic fish in a bowl, sure
: even you would have the mentality to work it out eventually?
:

they dont bleed enough.

BTW why did you have to have your own personal thread?
why not just tack it onto John's little tantrum?

Derek.Moody
October 8th, 2003, 05:02 AM
In article >,
<URL:mailto:<>@.MISSING-HOST-NAME.> wrote:

> No. It's what the majority of us want, the public, we do not like
> animal abuse. You may well feel it OK to abuse animals in your cozy
> little world, we don't, the majority rules.

Pete,
On a fishing ng trolling has a different meaning. Google back to the days
you called yourself Mbongo if you want to review the arguments.

Cheerio,

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Derek.Moody
October 8th, 2003, 05:04 AM
In article >, Phil.L
> wrote:

> BTW why did you have to have your own personal thread?
> why not just tack it onto John's little tantrum?

Pete is pulling his old trick, atm he is posting as <>, Malcolm and John,
probably others too. No one else will agree with him.

Cheerio,

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SEAANGLING
October 8th, 2003, 09:02 AM
> we don't, the majority rules.

Since when has the UK had a majority rule? Most, if not all governments are
elected by a minority of the voters. We don't have referendums to see what the
majority want so how can you claim that majority rules, a pretty unjustified
claim I think. Cheers, Norman.