Price of Fishing Reels

[Dark Knight]

Morning Folks,

Kind of an impromptu survey...

A) What is the most that you would spend for a fishing reel?

B) Do you personally believe that price and quality go hand-in-hand? (i.e.
Would you expect a $500 reel to be superior to a $100 reel?)

DK

[NYangel]

I have a Penta I paid 790dlls, the 200dlls works such as well.


Dark Knight > wrote in message
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> Morning Folks,
>
> Kind of an impromptu survey...
>
> A) What is the most that you would spend for a fishing reel?
>
> B) Do you personally believe that price and quality go hand-in-hand?
(i.e.
> Would you expect a $500 reel to be superior to a $100 reel?)
>
> DK
>
>

[AJH]

I use Abu Garcia baitcasting reels, $59-89 is what I have paid..I don't
see the need for all the bells and whistle's that cost mega bucks..You
need a good reliable reel but not some thing that is so valuable you
have to worry about getting it dirty, and the fish doesn't know what you
paid for the reel, well at least I don't think they do..





I fish therefore I lie

[Chuck Coger]

I rarely spend over $130.00 for a reel and make every attempt to buy one for
less. The only exception to my rule is specialty reels, for example my
flippin, pitchin and light line reels.

I think that some 100.00 reels perform as well as some of those for 300.00,
atleast in my fishing applications. I also know for a fact that some 100.00
reels perform like 50.00 reels, which is why I own 1 Quantum and it is on
the shelf. That would be the ACS model, BPS has cheaper reels that leave
this thing in the dust, which by the way is what it feels like it is full of
when I reel and cast it. Sorry in advance to all you Quantum fans;)

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com


"Dark Knight" > wrote in message
...
> Morning Folks,
>
> Kind of an impromptu survey...
>
> A) What is the most that you would spend for a fishing reel?
>
> B) Do you personally believe that price and quality go hand-in-hand?
(i.e.
> Would you expect a $500 reel to be superior to a $100 reel?)
>
> DK
>
>
>

[Charles B. Summers]

Reliability means more than cost to me, which is why my last four reels have
been the Curados. They're about $130.00, but so far I've only had one of
them fail, and that was because it was cold and I set the hook too hard. The
thing just snapped off... but Shimano replaced the reel.


"Dark Knight" > wrote in message
...
> Morning Folks,
>
> Kind of an impromptu survey...
>
> A) What is the most that you would spend for a fishing reel?
>
> B) Do you personally believe that price and quality go hand-in-hand?
(i.e.
> Would you expect a $500 reel to be superior to a $100 reel?)
>
> DK
>
>

[Eric Ryder]

"Dark Knight" > wrote in message
...
> Morning Folks,
>
> Kind of an impromptu survey...
>
> A) What is the most that you would spend for a fishing reel?
>
> B) Do you personally believe that price and quality go hand-in-hand?
(i.e.
> Would you expect a $500 reel to be superior to a $100 reel?)
>
> DK
>
>

$140.00 this year.... stay tuned for updates tho:)

[Bob La Londe]

I would have to say it really depends. The old Zebco 33 Classic is pretty
durable and the last time I bought one it cost 13.95.

I also had a couple Daiwas 250 RLs I bought for under $30 that lasted for
many years.

HOWEVER!!!!! I have not had as good of luck in more recent years with
inexpensive reels. My SS3 Quantums are getting awfully sloppy after a year
nad a half. On the other hand for only a few dollars more the Pfuelger
Trion spinning reels seem to be pretty darn good. I'll let you know for
sure next year at this time. I have five of them on now.

For baitcasters I have a $69 dollar Daiwa, Several Quantum Accurists 400s
and one 500 for about $89 to $119 that seem to be holding up pretty good,
although the anti reversing clutch seems to have gone tits up on one of the
400s, I bought a cheap Cabelas Black Label and I believe it may still be
under a bush in my garden where it lodged when I tossed it. I hear the
Black Label II is better, but I'm not going to take the chance. I also have
a $40 BassPro label baitcaster that seems ok, but again needs some more time
on the water to see how it will hold up.

Several of the guys here in ROFB are all gah gah over Shimano Curados. I
bought a used one recently to try out. It is ok and new ones sell for
around $130. I'll see how well it holds up in the field. If the Quantums
hold up I'll probably stay with them though. They are a little less
expensive, and I can flip the casting bar up and lock the spool with my
thumb. The Curado is like all the other reels in that respect. You have to
turn the crank to lock the spool.

--
Bob La Londe
Yuma, Az
http://www.YumaBassMan.com


"Dark Knight" > wrote in message
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> Morning Folks,
>
> Kind of an impromptu survey...
>
> A) What is the most that you would spend for a fishing reel?
>
> B) Do you personally believe that price and quality go hand-in-hand?
(i.e.
> Would you expect a $500 reel to be superior to a $100 reel?)
>
> DK
>
>

[Richard Liebert]

Curado SF is worth it's weight in fish. The Curado with no SF is probably
just as good.

Cabelas Prodigy 2000 (it's a Daiwa Capricorn) blows away my Stradics for the
same price ($119)

I prefer the Prodigy over my Sustain 2000. Never thought I would say that.


"Dark Knight" > wrote in message
...
> Morning Folks,
>
> Kind of an impromptu survey...
>
> A) What is the most that you would spend for a fishing reel?
>
> B) Do you personally believe that price and quality go hand-in-hand?
(i.e.
> Would you expect a $500 reel to be superior to a $100 reel?)
>
> DK
>
>

[Brad Coovert]

>
>A) What is the most that you would spend for a fishing reel?

$149.00. Anything over a Scorpion or Curado SF is more than I need and the
regular Curado will do just fine for any fishing I will ever do.

$1.00 for anything made by Quantum. Coffee grinders with spools.


Brad Coovert, 2003 Tournament Director, Greenfield Bassmasters
Please visit our sponsors:
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[Thundercat]

"Dark Knight" > wrote in message
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> Morning Folks,
>
> Kind of an impromptu survey...
>
> A) What is the most that you would spend for a fishing reel?

I probably wouldn't go much over $500 for a reel but on average I'd say
between $150 and $250

> B) Do you personally believe that price and quality go hand-in-hand?
(i.e.
> Would you expect a $500 reel to be superior to a $100 reel?)

I would say that it all depends on what you are expecting to get out of the
reel. A $500 reel ain't goin' ta make ya catch fish any better but it will
sure feel nice while you are trying. While a quality $100 reel might not
"feel" as refined, it will sure do a good job and last you a lifetime with
regular maintenance. Kind of like choosing between a Nissan Maxima and an
Infinity G35.

> DK
>

--
Harry J. aka Thundercat
Rogue Bass Fishing Club
Share the knowledge, compete on execution...
Brooklyn Bill's Specialty Tackle Fishing Team
http://geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/

[The RodMaker]

As for my self , I own 3 Shimano Scorpions
3 Shimano Curado's . A Diawa TDX and a Quantum EX501. The Quantum was the
1st lefty reel I bought bout 7 yrs ago.

For my book quality is more important than
trying to save a buck. I don't like having a reel fail on the water.

--
Dave Norton
Millennium Rods
"Thundercat" > wrote in message
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> "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Morning Folks,
> >
> > Kind of an impromptu survey...
> >
> > A) What is the most that you would spend for a fishing reel?
>
> I probably wouldn't go much over $500 for a reel but on average I'd say
> between $150 and $250
>
> > B) Do you personally believe that price and quality go hand-in-hand?
> (i.e.
> > Would you expect a $500 reel to be superior to a $100 reel?)
>
> I would say that it all depends on what you are expecting to get out of
the
> reel. A $500 reel ain't goin' ta make ya catch fish any better but it will
> sure feel nice while you are trying. While a quality $100 reel might not
> "feel" as refined, it will sure do a good job and last you a lifetime with
> regular maintenance. Kind of like choosing between a Nissan Maxima and an
> Infinity G35.
>
> > DK
> >
>
> --
> Harry J. aka Thundercat
> Rogue Bass Fishing Club
> Share the knowledge, compete on execution...
> Brooklyn Bill's Specialty Tackle Fishing Team
> http://geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/
>
>
>

[The RodMaker]

Okay , so we have seen that some are willing to spend hundreds on their
reels.

How bout the rods you buy & why? Please think about your answers, you'll
actually be helping us out.

--
Dave Norton
Millennium Rods

> "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
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> > Morning Folks,
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> > Kind of an impromptu survey...
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[Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers]

"Dark Knight" > wrote in message ...
> Morning Folks,
>
> Kind of an impromptu survey...
>
> A) What is the most that you would spend for a fishing reel?

***I have a Shimano Chronarch that is one sweet reel, so I guess I have to say that I'd spend at
least that much. But for the most part, $150 or less is typically what I spend on a reel. But I
must qualify that statement by saying that these are reels that clients use, and I have to balance
quality and price. I won't give clients cheap equipment, but then again, I'm reluctant to hand them
a $600 rod reel combo when I have several a season tossed in the lake!
>
> B) Do you personally believe that price and quality go hand-in-hand? (i.e.
> Would you expect a $500 reel to be superior to a $100 reel?)

***Yes I do. While a $500 reel won't catch any more fish than a $100 model, I expect it to be
smoother, cast farther and be more reliable. For the extra $400, this reel better be one that will
be handed down generation to generation. Would I spend $500 for a reel? I don't know, I'd have to
handle one to be certain, and then I'd have to be in the right mood to spend that much.
--
Steve
OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

[Dark Knight]

Evening Dave,

Truth be told, I find that the quality of the rod depends on what I intend
to do with it. I can't see spending more than $125 on a cranking rod, yet I
doubt that I'll ever spend less that $100 on a good jigging stick again. I
don't need high modulus graphite on a bucktail rod, but you can be sure
that's what I'm looking for if I'm using a Lindy rig.

Does this help, or are you looking for even more detailed information?


DK


"The RodMaker" > wrote in message
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> Okay , so we have seen that some are willing to spend hundreds on their
> reels.
>
> How bout the rods you buy & why? Please think about your answers, you'll
> actually be helping us out.
>
> --
> Dave Norton
> Millennium Rods
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> > "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
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[The RodMaker]

DK, your 1st sentence about sums it up! But why? Why is it that anglers are
willing to spend major bucks on a reel ,yet scrimp when it comes to the rods
that are used with that reel?

--
Dave Norton
Millennium Rods
"Dark Knight" > wrote in message
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> Evening Dave,
>
> Truth be told, I find that the quality of the rod depends on what I intend
> to do with it. I can't see spending more than $125 on a cranking rod, yet
I
> doubt that I'll ever spend less that $100 on a good jigging stick again.
I
> don't need high modulus graphite on a bucktail rod, but you can be sure
> that's what I'm looking for if I'm using a Lindy rig.
>
> Does this help, or are you looking for even more detailed information?
>
>
> DK
>
>
> "The RodMaker" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Okay , so we have seen that some are willing to spend hundreds on their
> > reels.
> >
> > How bout the rods you buy & why? Please think about your answers, you'll
> > actually be helping us out.
> >
> > --
> > Dave Norton
> > Millennium Rods
> >
> > > "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Morning Folks,
> > > >
> > > > Kind of an impromptu survey...
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[Charles B. Summers]

Truth be told though... the rod is probably the most important piece of
equipment. You don't feel the fish, or the strikes with the reel... you feel
everything with the rod. The more sensitive the rod is, the more you'll be
able to feel.


"Dark Knight" > wrote in message
...
> Evening Dave,
>
> Truth be told, I find that the quality of the rod depends on what I intend
> to do with it. I can't see spending more than $125 on a cranking rod, yet
I
> doubt that I'll ever spend less that $100 on a good jigging stick again.
I
> don't need high modulus graphite on a bucktail rod, but you can be sure
> that's what I'm looking for if I'm using a Lindy rig.
>
> Does this help, or are you looking for even more detailed information?
>
>
> DK
>
>
> "The RodMaker" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Okay , so we have seen that some are willing to spend hundreds on their
> > reels.
> >
> > How bout the rods you buy & why? Please think about your answers, you'll
> > actually be helping us out.
> >
> > --
> > Dave Norton
> > Millennium Rods
> >
> > > "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Morning Folks,
> > > >
> > > > Kind of an impromptu survey...
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[The RodMaker]

So, what motivates you to buy a rod? And Charles, you have two MCR rods. Why
?

Again , why will someone spend several hundred dollars on a reel . And then
buy a $69.00 rod for it?

--
Dave Norton
Millennium Rods
"Charles B. Summers" (Comcast)> wrote in
message ...
> Truth be told though... the rod is probably the most important piece of
> equipment. You don't feel the fish, or the strikes with the reel... you
feel
> everything with the rod. The more sensitive the rod is, the more you'll be
> able to feel.
>
>
> "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Evening Dave,
> >
> > Truth be told, I find that the quality of the rod depends on what I
intend
> > to do with it. I can't see spending more than $125 on a cranking rod,
yet
> I
> > doubt that I'll ever spend less that $100 on a good jigging stick again.
> I
> > don't need high modulus graphite on a bucktail rod, but you can be sure
> > that's what I'm looking for if I'm using a Lindy rig.
> >
> > Does this help, or are you looking for even more detailed information?
> >
> >
> > DK
> >
> >
> > "The RodMaker" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Okay , so we have seen that some are willing to spend hundreds on
their
> > > reels.
> > >
> > > How bout the rods you buy & why? Please think about your answers,
you'll
> > > actually be helping us out.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dave Norton
> > > Millennium Rods
> > >
> > > > "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Morning Folks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind of an impromptu survey...
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[Shawn]

I'm not Charles, but I'll answer with my own perspective.

I first realized I needed "real" bassing equipment when I bought a cheap
($45) Daiwa bait caster. Thinking that fault lied within myself, I struggled
with that coffee grinder for a whole season...ok, maybe three
months...before I realized that the first step to any successful
presentation is the cast, and the cast begins with the reel.

I'd been oogling over the Lew's line-up for several months but couldn't
muster the courage to come home with a $130 reel. Frustration was mounting
then one day it hit me; forgiveness is easier had then permission. I took
the plunge.

Again, learning the cast was an exercise in frustration but I could tell in
an instant that the reel made a world of difference. It was smooth, to
smooth for my rookie thumb, but I persisted. Once comfortable and confident
with my new found abilities (and a few fish later) I decided I needed more!
More quality reels in hand, each one with a different presentation. Each one
a new technique to learn, or at least try.

I went through a ton of tackle in the early stages; losing much of it to the
trees (submerged and otherwise). It took a while to settle in on confidence
baits. All this takes money, much more than I ever imagined spending.

Fast forward to present day - I now have 5 of the Lew's bait casters and two
spinning outfits. Each outfit has it's preferred application and a "Plan B".
That takes a lot of tackle, and I have a LOT of tackle, and I need more.

Fast forward to the near future - there are but two things left to complete
my fishing package; #1 is a boat to fish from (that's a pretty important
piece of the puzzle). #2 is a complete new line-up of quality rods to fish
with. From there, all I need is gas money, right? What else could there be?
LOL!

--
Early to Bed, Early to Rise,
Fish all Day, Make up Lies.

Shawn


"The RodMaker" > wrote in message
...
> So, what motivates you to buy a rod? And Charles, you have two MCR rods.
Why
> ?
>
> Again , why will someone spend several hundred dollars on a reel . And
then
> buy a $69.00 rod for it?
>
> --
> Dave Norton
> Millennium Rods
> "Charles B. Summers" (Comcast)> wrote in
> message ...
> > Truth be told though... the rod is probably the most important piece of
> > equipment. You don't feel the fish, or the strikes with the reel... you
> feel
> > everything with the rod. The more sensitive the rod is, the more you'll
be
> > able to feel.
> >
> >
> > "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Evening Dave,
> > >
> > > Truth be told, I find that the quality of the rod depends on what I
> intend
> > > to do with it. I can't see spending more than $125 on a cranking rod,
> yet
> > I
> > > doubt that I'll ever spend less that $100 on a good jigging stick
again.
> > I
> > > don't need high modulus graphite on a bucktail rod, but you can be
sure
> > > that's what I'm looking for if I'm using a Lindy rig.
> > >
> > > Does this help, or are you looking for even more detailed information?
> > >
> > >
> > > DK
> > >
> > >
> > > "The RodMaker" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Okay , so we have seen that some are willing to spend hundreds on
> their
> > > > reels.
> > > >
> > > > How bout the rods you buy & why? Please think about your answers,
> you'll
> > > > actually be helping us out.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dave Norton
> > > > Millennium Rods
> > > >
> > > > > "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Morning Folks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind of an impromptu survey...
> > > > <snip>
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[Huck Palmatier]

I finally had a chance to fish some "high end" equipment during a charity
pro-am recently which was held ICW the Jacob's Cup in Richmond. I was paired
with Toshi Namiki, and used some of his prototype Team Daiwa stuff that
isn't even available over here yet (except on the japantackle website) .
Brave guy to chance me throwing $1000 over the side. A Battler series 7'1"
pitching stick with a Megabass Z reel spooled up with light flouro.... Whole
setup weighed less than a Yuengling!.....Now my Falcon/Curado pitching rig
feels like a SnoopyPole. wimpered Huck

[AJH]

IMO sensitivity in a rod to a certain degree, isn't that important, I
watch the line and I am sure I can see a bite before I can feel it..as
far as rod weight, I can't see much difference between a $20 and a $90
rod..I have had only one rod that didn't cast very well, it was a $60
rod, As far as reels go, Shimano reels under the 100 dollar price range
are inferior to Abu's in the $60-80 price range..The Curado seems to be
the best and most popular reel for the money..
I have a question for Rodmaker, why are custom rods so expensive?





I fish therefore I lie

[Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers]

"Huck Palmatier" > wrote in message news:SZcdb.23452$0Z5.7469@lakeread03...
> I finally had a chance to fish some "high end" equipment during a charity
> pro-am recently which was held ICW the Jacob's Cup in Richmond. I was paired
> with Toshi Namiki, and used some of his prototype Team Daiwa stuff that
> isn't even available over here yet (except on the japantackle website) .
> Brave guy to chance me throwing $1000 over the side. A Battler series 7'1"
> pitching stick with a Megabass Z reel spooled up with light flouro.... Whole
> setup weighed less than a Yuengling!.....Now my Falcon/Curado pitching rig
> feels like a SnoopyPole. wimpered Huck

Good tackle will do that to you... :) An eye opening experience, wasn't it?
--
Steve
OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

[SHRED]

$345 for a Calcutta Conquest 200(Japan only). No regrets and yes it is the
best in it's class. Better than a Calcutta TE GT.


"Dark Knight" > wrote in message
...
> Morning Folks,
>
> Kind of an impromptu survey...
>
> A) What is the most that you would spend for a fishing reel?
>
> B) Do you personally believe that price and quality go hand-in-hand?
(i.e.
> Would you expect a $500 reel to be superior to a $100 reel?)
>
> DK
>
>

[The RodMaker]

Now that's a fine question, and I'll try to answer it the best I can from
"my" point of view.

1st)Custom rodbuilder' take a lot more time in the "design" and assembly of
a rod.

Let's examine that statement: Major manufacturer's use preset guidelines for
each model of rod they build. Custom builder's build each rod according to a
set of criteria from the client.
"Most" major manufacturer's use the "least expensive components on the
market. And they "buy in mass quantity. When I buy the components for a rod
,I may be buying for one rod but seldom for more than three at a time. And I
"never" use the least expensive components. If I did ,I would be forever
repairing or replacing rods. A good case in point is Wally World , and Al.

Most manufacturer's use the least amount of guides according to their guide
placement charts. I know several people that "call" themselves custom
builder's ,but they use these guidelines from the manufacturer's.
I perform certain tests during the assembly of each rod that assures me that
,that particular rod has the appropriate number of guides.And that they are
spaced where they are needed to support the line most effectively.
And then there is my time, it takes me roughly 2hrs. to assembly a rod. But
that is not where it ends. Each rod gets a "minimum" of 2 coats of finish on
the guide wraps.this adds up to 8hrs of time to each rod.

Up till now , I have simply addressed what it takes to design and construct
a fishing rod. Anyone can learn to do this. It's not
rocket science. Okay anyone but Al.

We have several rodbuilder's here on this forum, and there are distinct
differences in
the approach we take to our craft.
Steve Huber builds a great fishing rod , one that "each" of us would be
proud to fish with.
Steve does not go into much in the way of personalization. And there is
"NOTHING"
wrong with that. Sorry for the caps, but I wanted to make sure that my point
was being made.

I however give each client the "option" as to how their rod will look. We go
into some rather detailed decorative effects. Does this "make" an MCR rod
fish better than a Huber custom rod or any other custom made rod?? Nope!
Remember that I said I would attempt to answer this question from "my" point
of view!
At MCR ,we believe that we are building rods that will "last" a lifetime.
That is why we provide a lifetime warranty with each rod. Stop and consider
what it costs a major manufacturer to replace an "Al" rod. Sorry couldn't
resist. Now stop and consider what it costs a custom builder to replace a
rod. Sure the blank may be replaced "free" of charge , and the guides can be
salvaged. But what about the cost of the other components.
And our time, these are variables that are factored into the cost of a rod.
These are some of the reasons we charges the prices
we do. Is a custom rod for everyone? I don't think so.

Wow, didn't realize I was going on so!
AJH and all , I hope that this has helped explain at least from "my" point
of view the
difference in price between manufactured rods , and custom built rods !


--
Dave Norton
Millennium Rods
"AJH" > wrote in message
...
> IMO sensitivity in a rod to a certain degree, isn't that important, I
> watch the line and I am sure I can see a bite before I can feel it..as
> far as rod weight, I can't see much difference between a $20 and a $90
> rod..I have had only one rod that didn't cast very well, it was a $60
> rod, As far as reels go, Shimano reels under the 100 dollar price range
> are inferior to Abu's in the $60-80 price range..The Curado seems to be
> the best and most popular reel for the money..
> I have a question for Rodmaker, why are custom rods so expensive?
>
>
>
>
>
> I fish therefore I lie
>

[AJH]

What does the $345 Calcutta do that a $120 Curado or a $89 Abu Garcia
TP3600C won't?





I fish therefore I lie

[SHRED]

"AJH" > wrote in message
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> What does the $345 Calcutta do that a $120 Curado or a $89 Abu Garcia
> TP3600C won't?
>

More versatile--casts better--better drag--many times smoother--to name a
few.

That being said, the reels you mentioned, especially the Curado, pound for
pound, are a better way to spend your money.



>
> I fish therefore I lie
>

[AJH]

Thank you sir, good explanation...





I fish therefore I lie

[Charles B. Summers]

Umm... cause I got an excellent deal on them??? LOL

--
Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net
www.secretweaponlures.com
www.outdoorfrontiers.com
www.midtennclassic.org
"The RodMaker" > wrote in message
...
> So, what motivates you to buy a rod? And Charles, you have two MCR rods.
Why
> ?
>
> Again , why will someone spend several hundred dollars on a reel . And
then
> buy a $69.00 rod for it?
>
> --
> Dave Norton
> Millennium Rods
> "Charles B. Summers" (Comcast)> wrote in
> message ...
> > Truth be told though... the rod is probably the most important piece of
> > equipment. You don't feel the fish, or the strikes with the reel... you
> feel
> > everything with the rod. The more sensitive the rod is, the more you'll
be
> > able to feel.
> >
> >
> > "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Evening Dave,
> > >
> > > Truth be told, I find that the quality of the rod depends on what I
> intend
> > > to do with it. I can't see spending more than $125 on a cranking rod,
> yet
> > I
> > > doubt that I'll ever spend less that $100 on a good jigging stick
again.
> > I
> > > don't need high modulus graphite on a bucktail rod, but you can be
sure
> > > that's what I'm looking for if I'm using a Lindy rig.
> > >
> > > Does this help, or are you looking for even more detailed information?
> > >
> > >
> > > DK
> > >
> > >
> > > "The RodMaker" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Okay , so we have seen that some are willing to spend hundreds on
> their
> > > > reels.
> > > >
> > > > How bout the rods you buy & why? Please think about your answers,
> you'll
> > > > actually be helping us out.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dave Norton
> > > > Millennium Rods
> > > >
> > > > > "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Morning Folks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind of an impromptu survey...
> > > > <snip>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Charles B. Summers]

>
> I however give each client the "option" as to how their rod will look. We
go
> into some rather detailed decorative effects.

> At MCR ,we believe that we are building rods that will "last" a lifetime.
> That is why we provide a lifetime warranty with each rod.

These are two of the MAJOR reasons why I contacted Dave to build me a couple
of rods. Hopefully, my son will enjoy fishing as much as I do and I can pass
these on to him. After all... they were personally made for his daddy, and
maybe he'll respect that when he's an adult.

[Dark Knight]

Not ask a stupid question, but...

What is the Millennium Rods website? How does one get a listing of Dave's
rod options?

I've been looking at working with Daniel Sturgis from Backwoods Rods here in
Canada on a custom line for use by Innovative's staff and pro's, but was
really impressed with Dave's "long answer", and am thinking that I'd like to
learn more.

DK


"Charles B. Summers" (remove extra dot)> wrote in
message ...
> >
> > I however give each client the "option" as to how their rod will look.
We
> go
> > into some rather detailed decorative effects.
>
> > At MCR ,we believe that we are building rods that will "last" a
lifetime.
> > That is why we provide a lifetime warranty with each rod.
>
> These are two of the MAJOR reasons why I contacted Dave to build me a
couple
> of rods. Hopefully, my son will enjoy fishing as much as I do and I can
pass
> these on to him. After all... they were personally made for his daddy, and
> maybe he'll respect that when he's an adult.
>
>

[The RodMaker]

Yeah:o) Probably so!

--
Dave Norton
Millennium Rods
"Charles B. Summers" (remove extra dot)> wrote in
message ...
> Umm... cause I got an excellent deal on them??? LOL
>
> --
> Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net
> www.secretweaponlures.com
> www.outdoorfrontiers.com
> www.midtennclassic.org
> "The RodMaker" > wrote in message
> ...
> > So, what motivates you to buy a rod? And Charles, you have two MCR rods.
> Why
> > ?
> >
> > Again , why will someone spend several hundred dollars on a reel . And
> then
> > buy a $69.00 rod for it?
> >
> > --
> > Dave Norton
> > Millennium Rods
> > "Charles B. Summers" (Comcast)> wrote in
> > message ...
> > > Truth be told though... the rod is probably the most important piece
of
> > > equipment. You don't feel the fish, or the strikes with the reel...
you
> > feel
> > > everything with the rod. The more sensitive the rod is, the more
you'll
> be
> > > able to feel.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Evening Dave,
> > > >
> > > > Truth be told, I find that the quality of the rod depends on what I
> > intend
> > > > to do with it. I can't see spending more than $125 on a cranking
rod,
> > yet
> > > I
> > > > doubt that I'll ever spend less that $100 on a good jigging stick
> again.
> > > I
> > > > don't need high modulus graphite on a bucktail rod, but you can be
> sure
> > > > that's what I'm looking for if I'm using a Lindy rig.
> > > >
> > > > Does this help, or are you looking for even more detailed
information?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > DK
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "The RodMaker" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Okay , so we have seen that some are willing to spend hundreds on
> > their
> > > > > reels.
> > > > >
> > > > > How bout the rods you buy & why? Please think about your answers,
> > you'll
> > > > > actually be helping us out.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dave Norton
> > > > > Millennium Rods
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > Morning Folks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kind of an impromptu survey...
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[The RodMaker]

Do to some economic issue's , Millennium Rods has been offline for some
time. And as things stand we will be till the 1st of the year.

Anyone can contact me privately with questions regarding our line. Would
like to point out that as soon as some things get turned around for us . a
much improved line
up has been developed.
Sorry to say for those here that the biggest area to improve is our flyrod
line.

--
Dave Norton
Millennium Rods
"Dark Knight" > wrote in message
...
> Not ask a stupid question, but...
>
> What is the Millennium Rods website? How does one get a listing of Dave's
> rod options?
>
> I've been looking at working with Daniel Sturgis from Backwoods Rods here
in
> Canada on a custom line for use by Innovative's staff and pro's, but was
> really impressed with Dave's "long answer", and am thinking that I'd like
to
> learn more.
>
> DK
>
>
> "Charles B. Summers" (remove extra dot)> wrote
in
> message ...
> > >
> > > I however give each client the "option" as to how their rod will look.
> We
> > go
> > > into some rather detailed decorative effects.
> >
> > > At MCR ,we believe that we are building rods that will "last" a
> lifetime.
> > > That is why we provide a lifetime warranty with each rod.
> >
> > These are two of the MAJOR reasons why I contacted Dave to build me a
> couple
> > of rods. Hopefully, my son will enjoy fishing as much as I do and I can
> pass
> > these on to him. After all... they were personally made for his daddy,
and
> > maybe he'll respect that when he's an adult.
> >
> >
>
>

[Thundercat]

I'll have you know that my $365 reel is mounted on a $250 rod (Loomis), $270
reel on a $350 rod (custom), $155 reel on a $290 rod (custom) and my other
$155 reel on a $85 rod (St Croix). My last decent reel is patiently waiting
for me to give it a new home. If anyone wants to donate a quality rod to my
cause, my Chronarch SF would be very grateful... <g>

Now I must delete this post before SWMBO see it. She is still basically
unaware of how much all of my goodies cost.

--
Harry J. aka Thundercat
Rogue Bass Fishing Club
Share the knowledge, compete on execution...
Brooklyn Bill's Specialty Tackle Fishing Team
http://geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/

"The RodMaker" > wrote in message
...
> So, what motivates you to buy a rod? And Charles, you have two MCR rods.
Why
> ?
>
> Again , why will someone spend several hundred dollars on a reel . And
then
> buy a $69.00 rod for it?
>
> --
> Dave Norton
> Millennium Rods
> "Charles B. Summers" (Comcast)> wrote in
> message ...
> > Truth be told though... the rod is probably the most important piece of
> > equipment. You don't feel the fish, or the strikes with the reel... you
> feel
> > everything with the rod. The more sensitive the rod is, the more you'll
be
> > able to feel.
> >
> >
> > "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Evening Dave,
> > >
> > > Truth be told, I find that the quality of the rod depends on what I
> intend
> > > to do with it. I can't see spending more than $125 on a cranking rod,
> yet
> > I
> > > doubt that I'll ever spend less that $100 on a good jigging stick
again.
> > I
> > > don't need high modulus graphite on a bucktail rod, but you can be
sure
> > > that's what I'm looking for if I'm using a Lindy rig.
> > >
> > > Does this help, or are you looking for even more detailed information?
> > >
> > >
> > > DK
> > >
> > >
> > > "The RodMaker" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Okay , so we have seen that some are willing to spend hundreds on
> their
> > > > reels.
> > > >
> > > > How bout the rods you buy & why? Please think about your answers,
> you'll
> > > > actually be helping us out.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dave Norton
> > > > Millennium Rods
> > > >
> > > > > "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Morning Folks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind of an impromptu survey...
> > > > <snip>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[The RodMaker]

Ok, Harry 1st it's nice to see you posting:o)
But what motivated you to spend that kind of money on your goodies?

--
Dave Norton
Millennium Rods
"Thundercat" > wrote in message
et...
> I'll have you know that my $365 reel is mounted on a $250 rod (Loomis),
$270
> reel on a $350 rod (custom), $155 reel on a $290 rod (custom) and my other
> $155 reel on a $85 rod (St Croix). My last decent reel is patiently
waiting
> for me to give it a new home. If anyone wants to donate a quality rod to
my
> cause, my Chronarch SF would be very grateful... <g>
>
> Now I must delete this post before SWMBO see it. She is still basically
> unaware of how much all of my goodies cost.
>
> --
> Harry J. aka Thundercat
> Rogue Bass Fishing Club
> Share the knowledge, compete on execution...
> Brooklyn Bill's Specialty Tackle Fishing Team
> http://geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/
>
> "The RodMaker" > wrote in message
> ...
> > So, what motivates you to buy a rod? And Charles, you have two MCR rods.
> Why
> > ?
> >
> > Again , why will someone spend several hundred dollars on a reel . And
> then
> > buy a $69.00 rod for it?
> >
> > --
> > Dave Norton
> > Millennium Rods
> > "Charles B. Summers" (Comcast)> wrote in
> > message ...
> > > Truth be told though... the rod is probably the most important piece
of
> > > equipment. You don't feel the fish, or the strikes with the reel...
you
> > feel
> > > everything with the rod. The more sensitive the rod is, the more
you'll
> be
> > > able to feel.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Evening Dave,
> > > >
> > > > Truth be told, I find that the quality of the rod depends on what I
> > intend
> > > > to do with it. I can't see spending more than $125 on a cranking
rod,
> > yet
> > > I
> > > > doubt that I'll ever spend less that $100 on a good jigging stick
> again.
> > > I
> > > > don't need high modulus graphite on a bucktail rod, but you can be
> sure
> > > > that's what I'm looking for if I'm using a Lindy rig.
> > > >
> > > > Does this help, or are you looking for even more detailed
information?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > DK
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "The RodMaker" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Okay , so we have seen that some are willing to spend hundreds on
> > their
> > > > > reels.
> > > > >
> > > > > How bout the rods you buy & why? Please think about your answers,
> > you'll
> > > > > actually be helping us out.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dave Norton
> > > > > Millennium Rods
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Dark Knight" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > Morning Folks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kind of an impromptu survey...
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Thundercat]

"The RodMaker" > wrote in message
...

> Ok, Harry 1st it's nice to see you posting:o)
> But what motivated you to spend that kind of money on your goodies?
>
<snip incriminating evidence>

I like nice things?



All kidding aside, I am one of those people that will pay a bit more for
quality things. Although a Curado / St Croix Premier combo would do the same
job, it will not do it at the same comfort level, reliability level and
sensitivity level. The pricier "quality" reels are usually built to tighter
tolerances, have more features that are useful, and they just plain feel
more dang refined when you use them. I am willing to pay for that. I am also
willing to pay for a rod that will do exactly what I want it to do. I am not
willing to pay those prices for something that just "comes close" to what I
want it to do. This is why you will probably never see me buy a rod much
over $100 off the rack unless it is exactly what I am looking for. This is
why I scrape and save for 6 months at a time in order to have a rod built
for me that does do exactly what I want it to do.



I don't expect many other people to feel the same as I do about fishing
tackle, and I don't knock anyone that doesn't feel the same way. This is one
of the reasons that fishing has got to be one of the best recreational
activities bar none! You don't have to go out and buy tons of expensive
equipment to do it and enjoy it.


--
Harry J. aka Thundercat
Bass fishing is NOT a hobby...
It is an ADDICTION!
Brooklyn Bill's Specialty Tackle Fishing Team
http://geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/