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Goldeneye
November 18th, 2003, 10:11 PM
I am predominately a coarse fisherman, but I am off to Weymouth for a week
shortly and might try having a go at sea fishing.

What sort of range would I need to be able to cast? Would a 9' spinning rod
and 20lb braid cover what I would need for some spinning and maybe a bit of
light legering?

Also any suggestions of good places/baits /tactics greatly appreciated as I
am not too familiar with sea species.

Thanks,

John

Jim
November 18th, 2003, 11:40 PM
for a new experience mate--get out on a boat--use their tackle--enjoy the
taste of really good fresh fish--even though it will cost more than
Safeway's it will taste much-much better. You are gonna like it.

Derek.Moody
November 19th, 2003, 02:19 AM
In article >, Goldeneye
> wrote:
> I am predominately a coarse fisherman, but I am off to Weymouth for a week
> shortly and might try having a go at sea fishing.

When - we are coming up to springs this w/e and there should be some good
fish about but some are coming to the end of their season - the next heavy
rain might be enough to send 'em offshore..

> What sort of range would I need to be able to cast? Would a 9' spinning rod

I was catching three feet from the harbour wall last week.

> and 20lb braid cover what I would need for some spinning and maybe a bit of
> light legering?

A bit heavy, at this time of year (unless you are after conger) 8 - 12 lb
mono is fine.

> Also any suggestions of good places/baits /tactics greatly appreciated as I
> am not too familiar with sea species.

The best shore fishing begins at dusk. You could ledger/freeline a whole
calimari along any of the east-side beaches, no more than 20yards out with a
reasonable chance of a bass. Your rod might be a little short if there is
any wave though.

Floatfish in the harbour for pollack long the boundaries where the streetlit
water meets the shadow. Most will be about 6-8 feet down but experiment.
Use an avon type float to carry two or three swanshot and a #2 hook with
sections of ragworm as bait or live prawn if you can get them. The fish are
running up to about 2lb atm, the shoals move around with the tide so if they
suddenly stop taking a move will often catch up with them. . Deeper you will
get pouting, don't bother ledgering unless you really like crabs. If you
see a lot of 6" silver fish with big scales you can got to a #10 hook and
small baits for a smelt-bashing session (small yes, but delicious.)

The squid are taking atm as well but that's a bit specialised. There are
still a few mullet about, There is a tiny chance one will take if it's sunny
- treat them like chub.

In daylight try spinning anywhere you can get into a few feet of water.

Or go out onro the stone pier and drop a line straight down the side, there
are still wrasse about and a few other small fish.

Fancy something more specialised? If you will be down between 21-26 Nov and
can handle a fly-rod in the dark email me.

Cheerio,

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Goldeneye
November 20th, 2003, 11:26 PM
I am going to be down in Weymouth from the 22nd to the 28th.

Really supposed to be a romantic break with the girlfriend, but thought that
I would try and get a bit of fishing done too!

Thanks for all of the info, I will try a bit of fishing in the harbour and
see what I can catch.

Good luck with the nocturnal activities!

Thanks again

"Goldeneye" > wrote in message
...
> I am predominately a coarse fisherman, but I am off to Weymouth for a week
> shortly and might try having a go at sea fishing.
>
> What sort of range would I need to be able to cast? Would a 9' spinning
rod
> and 20lb braid cover what I would need for some spinning and maybe a bit
of
> light legering?
>
> Also any suggestions of good places/baits /tactics greatly appreciated as
I
> am not too familiar with sea species.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
>

Jim Murray
November 21st, 2003, 01:55 AM
>
> Fancy something more specialised? If you will be down between 21-26 Nov
and
> can handle a fly-rod in the dark email me.
>

I'm intrigued Derek, sea-trout possibly...??

Jim.

SEAANGLING
November 21st, 2003, 06:49 PM
>I am going to be down in Weymouth from the 22nd to the 28th

The Chesil cod comp is on the 23rd, £1,000 heaviest bag, £500 heaviest fisht,
could make a romantic break even more romantic and what an excuse to take a
rod. Ring 01305 777771 for details, cheers, Norman.

Derek.Moody
November 22nd, 2003, 12:48 AM
In article >, Jim Murray
> wrote:
> >
> > Fancy something more specialised? If you will be down between 21-26 Nov
> and
> > can handle a fly-rod in the dark email me.
> >
>
> I'm intrigued Derek, sea-trout possibly...??

Out of season.

Plenty of other sal****er fish take a fly though:
http://www.derek.moody.clara.co.uk/saltfly/index.html
( a bit out of date but you'll get the idea)

Cheerio,

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Jim Murray
November 25th, 2003, 01:08 PM
I've been doing a bit of sal****er flyfishing recently, spent last Summer
trying to catch mackerel from the shore(fish were all too far out) and from
a boat(they were all too deep).

It was the "in the dark" bit that sounded interesting.

Jim.

"Derek.Moody" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Jim Murray
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Fancy something more specialised? If you will be down between 21-26
Nov
> > and
> > > can handle a fly-rod in the dark email me.
> > >
> >
> > I'm intrigued Derek, sea-trout possibly...??
>
> Out of season.
>
> Plenty of other sal****er fish take a fly though:
> http://www.derek.moody.clara.co.uk/saltfly/index.html
> ( a bit out of date but you'll get the idea)
>
> Cheerio,
>
> --
> >>
>

Derek.Moody
November 25th, 2003, 08:08 PM
In article >, Jim Murray
> wrote:
> I've been doing a bit of sal****er flyfishing recently, spent last Summer
> trying to catch mackerel from the shore(fish were all too far out) and from
> a boat(they were all too deep).

Mackerel are really a bonus when flyfishing. Pollock are the most reliable
but it happens they've not been very good recently around Weymouth though I
had a good session with them in Bantry in September.

> It was the "in the dark" bit that sounded interesting.

If you followed the url you'll have some idea why. I was planning to go
tonight but the wind is a bit too stiff already and rising. Afaict there
are still fish within range - it rather depends how much more rain we get.
With luck we'll get one more tide out of this season.

Cheerio,

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tony wickham
November 26th, 2003, 11:18 PM
I'm glad to hear that the mackerel eventually turned up in Bantry. When I
was there in August they were few and far between off the harbour wall (not
that there was much room, especially when the ferry carrying the oil workers
kept coming in).

I'd hoped the Bantry area would be great for fishing, but most of the
shoreline was coated in thick bubbleweed. The only place I saw loads of fish
was Barley Cove, where the bass were "surfing" in the big waves. Apart from
that the whole area looked really quiet. Next time I'll do some research
before I go.

Tony Wickham

"Derek.Moody" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Jim Murray
> > wrote:
> > I've been doing a bit of sal****er flyfishing recently, spent last
Summer
> > trying to catch mackerel from the shore(fish were all too far out) and
from
> > a boat(they were all too deep).
>
> Mackerel are really a bonus when flyfishing. Pollock are the most
reliable
> but it happens they've not been very good recently around Weymouth though
I
> had a good session with them in Bantry in September.
>
> > It was the "in the dark" bit that sounded interesting.
>
> If you followed the url you'll have some idea why. I was planning to go
> tonight but the wind is a bit too stiff already and rising. Afaict there
> are still fish within range - it rather depends how much more rain we get.
> With luck we'll get one more tide out of this season.
>
> Cheerio,
>
> --
> >>
>

Derek.Moody
November 27th, 2003, 12:17 AM
In article >, tony wickham
> wrote:
> I'm glad to hear that the mackerel eventually turned up in Bantry. When I
> was there in August they were few and far between off the harbour wall (not

Very tide dependant there - we had a few reasonable mullet off the pier though.

As it happens I was referring to catching pollack on fly off nearby rocks -
but we had trouble getting past the mackerel on a couple of marks. There
were some decent shore pollack to bait and spinner too. Nothing over 3.5 lb
as it happens but there are larger fish there.

> I'd hoped the Bantry area would be great for fishing, but most of the
> shoreline was coated in thick bubbleweed. The only place I saw loads of fish

I've been to the west of Ireland twice this year but they had virtually no
rain. It's a good area for pottering around with a fishing rod rather than
specialist stuff. We had to arrange that trip six months in advance so
settled on Bantry because if it was really wet we could have gone salmon
fishing, if too rough there is decent coarse fishing back in the Lee Valley,
if a normal autumn the trout fly-fishing would have been OK and if, as we
had, an indian summer it keep the pollack and mullet going.

We had a week's pretty good fishing. No single red-letter day but testing
fish seen every day. Only one fishless day but even then I brought several
fish to the surface where they were ripped off the hook by 18-20foot waves
(cliff fishing on the Sheepshead.) Fish of the trip: a 6lb 14oz mullet on
the last day. Best flyfishing: 20-odd sizeable pollock on the first day.
Biggest problem: far too many dogfish on the bottom no matter how shallow
the mark.

> was Barley Cove, where the bass were "surfing" in the big waves. Apart from
> that the whole area looked really quiet. Next time I'll do some research
> before I go.

Didn't get that far this time. We had planned to go down there if the
nearer fishing was no good (or Loch Hyne if a hurricane.)

Slightly ot but I was told the Green Peter's went really well on Lough
Boffine in August.

Cheerio,

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Herman Nijland
December 4th, 2003, 11:24 PM
Derek.Moody wrote:

<snip>
> Plenty of other sal****er fish take a fly though:
> http://www.derek.moody.clara.co.uk/saltfly/index.html
> ( a bit out of date but you'll get the idea)
>
> Cheerio,
>


Nice site! I remember reading those articles in the FF & FT with great
interest. Thanks for having them on the net, they are certainly worth a
second read.

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Herman, preparing for Courtmacsherry next spring