rod, reel, tackle and line help please

[willherb]

I am an amateur to a degree. I got given a rod and reel and was taught the
basics of fishing. I have no problem setting up a very basic rig and
catching fish however when it comes to the technical stuff I am poor. I go
beach and pier fishing. The eye at the end of my rod is going and the
others are going green so I have decided to go nuts and over hall the lot.

What I need to know is for the :

1.1 Rod what material should it be made from
1.2 What should the casting weight be
1.3 Strength for pier fishing
1.4 Any thing else

2.1 Which reel should I get fixed or multi though I don't like the idea of
the birdnests multi's can give
2.2 Once decided on fixed or multi what else to look for

3.1 What tackle other than hooks, swivels and the 3 way swivels?
3.2 What weight of weight?

4 Is braided line the best and if not what else should I look for that will
be strong but not stretch to much so I can tell whether I have a bite or
not.

I know its a lot but I don't want to waste money. I don't want cheap and
cheerful but not expensive rubbish that I don't really need.

Many thanks for your help guys and girls and keep fishing big fish just
leave some for me

[Derek.Moody]

In article >, willherb
> wrote:
> I am an amateur to a degree. I got given a rod and reel and was taught the
> basics of fishing. I have no problem setting up a very basic rig and

We all gotta start somewhere (and I started over there----> )

> catching fish however when it comes to the technical stuff I am poor. I go
> beach and pier fishing. The eye at the end of my rod is going and the
> others are going green so I have decided to go nuts and over hall the lot.

The colour doesn't matter. Take the rod, or just the tip ring into a tackle
shop and get a similar sized replacement. Make sure it is for the same
diameter rod tip.

Some tip rings are whipped on - just cut the whipping and it comes free
leaving you to clean up for the new one. Some are formed on a metal sleeve
which is glued on. The glue used should always be one that can be melted by
gentle heat. Tie a string to the tip and to something firm at a suitable
working height. Take the rod in one hand and pull gently while holding a
lighter-flame beneath the metal sleeve. Keep turning the rod in your fingers
to heat the sleeve evenly. It should part from the ring in a few seconds.

If the new ring is the sleeve type glue it in place with fast epoxy (eg
araldite rapid or similar) MAKE SURE IT'S IN LINE before it sets.

If of the whip on type whip it on - or use a heat-shrink tube (also from
tackle shop) and a hair-drier.

> What I need to know is for the :
<snip list>
> I know its a lot but I don't want to waste money. I don't want cheap and
> cheerful but not expensive rubbish that I don't really need.

You're asking the wrong questions, sorry.

Look at it from the other viewpoint, the fish.

What fish do you want to catch and where?
What do they eat and when, how do they feed?
How best to put a bait in front of them?
For eg. It may be a float if midwater or an ultra-light ledger if the
bottom is muddy.
What tackle is best to achieve this?

And you are more than half way to solving your problem.

Alrernatively - which part of the coast do you fish? Someone here may know
the local requirements.

> Many thanks for your help guys and girls and keep fishing big fish just
> leave some for me

Shan't ;-)

Cheerio,

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[willherb]

For the fishing itself I would be fishing of a peir with a drop to the water
of about 20ft and i would be after fish from about 1-8 pound the latter more
hopefull than reallity. salt water and i am not overly worried about the
casting distance.

Hope this new info can help my question become more answerable.

[Derek.Moody]

In article >, willherb
> wrote:
> For the fishing itself I would be fishing of a peir with a drop to the water
> of about 20ft and i would be after fish from about 1-8 pound the latter more
> hopefull than reallity. salt water and i am not overly worried about the
> casting distance.
>
> Hope this new info can help my question become more answerable.

Er, not really. Such a pier would be a very different proposition in, say,
the Thames Estuary or west Wales.

Which part of the country (roughly, not street address) do you fish?

Rule of thumb on piers btw is to try straight down first. Fish live under
the pier and there is food for them there too. A simple paternoster with an
ounce of lead, maybe a little more if the tide is strong, will allow you to
fish all depths simply by reeling up or down a little and letting the tackle
hang fron the rod-tip.

Cheerio,

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[willherb]

Dover deal and folkstone. cant go under Folkestone or Dover

"Derek.Moody" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, willherb
> > wrote:
> > For the fishing itself I would be fishing of a peir with a drop to the
water
> > of about 20ft and i would be after fish from about 1-8 pound the latter
more
> > hopefull than reallity. salt water and i am not overly worried about
the
> > casting distance.
> >
> > Hope this new info can help my question become more answerable.
>
> Er, not really. Such a pier would be a very different proposition in,
say,
> the Thames Estuary or west Wales.
>
> Which part of the country (roughly, not street address) do you fish?
>
> Rule of thumb on piers btw is to try straight down first. Fish live under
> the pier and there is food for them there too. A simple paternoster with
an
> ounce of lead, maybe a little more if the tide is strong, will allow you
to
> fish all depths simply by reeling up or down a little and letting the
tackle
> hang fron the rod-tip.
>
> Cheerio,
>
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>

[Derek.Moody]

In article >, willherb
> wrote:
> "Derek.Moody" > wrote in message
> ...

<reordered to convention>

> > Er, not really. Such a pier would be a very different proposition in,
> say,
> > the Thames Estuary or west Wales.
> >
> > Which part of the country (roughly, not street address) do you fish?
> >
> > Rule of thumb on piers btw is to try straight down first. Fish live under
> > the pier and there is food for them there too. A simple paternoster with

> Dover deal and folkstone. cant go under Folkestone or Dover

OK, out of my area but there are a few regular posters here who fish the
area and will be along with local info any minute...

....guys?

You still try straight down first on a solid pier too. Or rather about a
rodlength out. Food cannot get through and so is concentrated by the
lateral flow and visiting fish run along the structure looking for it.
Beware some are much wider below the waterline than at the surface though, a
little gentle exploration bouncing a lead over the bottom (Use just a lead, no
hooks to snag.) will tell you the basic shape.

Where you have a breakwater configuration there will be a tide-scour each
side of the structure at the end; one for the incoming and another for the
outgoing tide. This is where a gentle underarm swing puts you into a prime
feeding area.

Cheerio,

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