Any opinions on Fishbites?

[news.cis.dfn.de]

In case you were wondering, Fishbites is a synthetic bait.
www.fishbites.com.

I'm thinking about buying some to try and was wondering if anyone had any
experience of using this?

Any opinions, comments or experiences are much appreciated.

Richard

[steven burling]

**** off spammer


p.s. doubters read the mail address

[Derek.Moody]

In article >, news.cis.dfn.de
> wrote:
> In case you were wondering, Fishbites is a synthetic bait.
> www.fishbites.com.

A new one turns up about every six months.

> I'm thinking about buying some to try and was wondering if anyone had any
> experience of using this?
>
> Any opinions, comments or experiences are much appreciated.

All of these concoctions are designed to catch anglers, not fish. Save your
money.

If you want to lay down a decent scent trail then ask a trawlerman* to save
you a few buckets of 'scroff' - the rubbish that comes out of the bottom of
the net. It's full of dead crabs. prawns, damaged-beyond-sale fish and a
mix of the general life of the seabed. Pound it up in a metal bucket then
either stiffen with bread or mud and use as groundbait(shore) or fill a
small net bag attached to your lead (boatfishing). For top of tide
beachcasting pour your scroff onto the beach at low water, tread it in
then fish over the top. If you -really- like dogfish let it ripen a few
days before using.

Cheerio,

*Or for a little more effort you can collect your own on the foreshore after
a blow.

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[Derek.Moody]

In article >,
<URL:mailto:[email protected].> wrote:

This his very first posting to the group:

> On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:47:41 -0000, "news.cis.dfn.de"
> > wrote:
>
> >In case you were wondering, Fishbites is a synthetic bait.

> I've been using for a couple of years and it works just as advertised.
> It has several excellent features. One being that it has a long "shelf
> Life." You can put it in your tackle box and not have to worry about

Now the hard question is, are you manufacturer or distributor?

Hmmmm. Mustn't exclude 'terminally gullible' as option three I suppose.

Cheerio,

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[Richard @]

Yeah, doubters read the email address....bogus because I'm fed up of getting
spammed myself in my personal email accounts.

My interest in this product is genuine, as is my interest in fishing.

Nice to be proved *guilty* by someone with such colourful language.


"steven burling" > wrote in message
...
> **** off spammer
>
>
> p.s. doubters read the mail address
>
>

[Richard @]

Thanks Derek. Unfortunately I don't live near a decent port with trawlermen.

I read in a recent post that some people have tried liver. I might try this,
it's cheap enough!

Thanks again!

"Derek.Moody" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, news.cis.dfn.de
> > wrote:
> > In case you were wondering, Fishbites is a synthetic bait.
> > www.fishbites.com.
>
> A new one turns up about every six months.
>
> > I'm thinking about buying some to try and was wondering if anyone had
any
> > experience of using this?
> >
> > Any opinions, comments or experiences are much appreciated.
>
> All of these concoctions are designed to catch anglers, not fish. Save
your
> money.
>
> If you want to lay down a decent scent trail then ask a trawlerman* to
save
> you a few buckets of 'scroff' - the rubbish that comes out of the bottom
of
> the net. It's full of dead crabs. prawns, damaged-beyond-sale fish and a
> mix of the general life of the seabed. Pound it up in a metal bucket then
> either stiffen with bread or mud and use as groundbait(shore) or fill a
> small net bag attached to your lead (boatfishing). For top of tide
> beachcasting pour your scroff onto the beach at low water, tread it in
> then fish over the top. If you -really- like dogfish let it ripen a few
> days before using.
>
> Cheerio,
>
> *Or for a little more effort you can collect your own on the foreshore
after
> a blow.
>
> --
> >>
>

[Ian D]

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 04:14:13 +0000, "Derek.Moody"
> wrote:

>Now the hard question is, are you manufacturer or distributor?
>
>Hmmmm. Mustn't exclude 'terminally gullible' as option three I suppose.
>

Nor option four, that it might actually work.
I agree that up to now there hasn't been a synthetic bait for sea
fishing that's been worth using, but they've been used for coarse
fishing with some success.
If someone can get the chemical formulation right, then I can't see a
single reason why fish won't take it readily.
They're pretty opportunistic feeders. If it smells right then it's
food seems to be the way they work.

Not saying fishbites is the one, but I'll bet a pound to a pinch that
someone will come up with a good synthetic eventually.

Cheers
Ian D

[Ian D]

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:39:55 -0000, "Richard @" >
wrote:

>Thanks Derek. Unfortunately I don't live near a decent port with trawlermen.
>
>I read in a recent post that some people have tried liver. I might try this,
>it's cheap enough!

It works as well.
I've had some decent whiting on strips of pig's liver, and I'm pretty
sure that it outfished lug/mackerel on at least a couple of occasions.
No reason for thinking it wouldn't work for cod either, but there's
not enough of those around on my patch to enable meaningful
comparisons to be made between liver and more traditional baits.

Cheers
Ian D

[Richard @]

I'll give it a go anyway, although the codling in the Mersey have yet to
show in any great numbers. Mostly whiting at the moment on lug, mackerel and
squid.

Thanks for your opinion on Fishbites.....although you'll probably be accused
as a peddlar, spammer, or something as equally ludicrous!

Richard


"Ian D" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:39:55 -0000, "Richard @" >
> wrote:
>
> >Thanks Derek. Unfortunately I don't live near a decent port with
trawlermen.
> >
> >I read in a recent post that some people have tried liver. I might try
this,
> >it's cheap enough!
>
> It works as well.
> I've had some decent whiting on strips of pig's liver, and I'm pretty
> sure that it outfished lug/mackerel on at least a couple of occasions.
> No reason for thinking it wouldn't work for cod either, but there's
> not enough of those around on my patch to enable meaningful
> comparisons to be made between liver and more traditional baits.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D

[Derek.Moody]

In article >, Richard @
> wrote:
> Thanks Derek. Unfortunately I don't live near a decent port with trawlermen.

You don't have to live there, just buy the guy a pint and swap phone numbers ;-)

> I read in a recent post that some people have tried liver. I might try this,
> it's cheap enough!

Any sort of meat is worth trying.

Alternative scent trails can be bought though they're not quite as good.
Very cheap tinned dogfood is one. Punch a few holes in the tin and sink it
where it wil leak scent without feeding the fish. Milk is another good one
mix it with bread as a carrier and use it as groundbait, you can add mince
if you like.

A trick worth trying if you have the time is to bait your swim the tide
before you intend to fish. On the rare occasions I've been able to maintain
bait for two or three days it has paid off very well.

Cheerio,

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[Derek.Moody]

In article >, Ian D
> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 04:14:13 +0000, "Derek.Moody"
> > wrote:
>
> >Now the hard question is, are you manufacturer or distributor?
> >
> >Hmmmm. Mustn't exclude 'terminally gullible' as option three I suppose.
>
> Nor option four, that it might actually work.

No, it's asafe enough to exclude that one.

> If someone can get the chemical formulation right, then I can't see a
> single reason why fish won't take it readily.
> They're pretty opportunistic feeders. If it smells right then it's
> food seems to be the way they work.

Sure, and the easy way is to provide them with something that -is- food.

Cheerio,

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[Matt Rathney Quinn. TFGTV Scotland.]

Though I think the language was perhaps less than ideal I can understand
both the respondant's frustration and reaction.

I tried the product. It was expensive and worse than useless! Readily
outfished by such things as garden worms and dogfood! Twice-frozen Mackrel
obtained for nothing since it was past it's use-by date also proved far more
effective. As did fish sticks made in a similar fashion to the Surimi sticks
you'll get in the supermarket.......

If none of these sound like viable sea baits well they aren't really.....
Just an experiment, but one that proved some hand results for those days
when bait otherwise can't be obtained....

Marketing of the item has also been aggressive to the point of extreme
annoyance..... Spam, incidentally (the tinned kind) is also, in my
experience a far more effective bait... Sadly only the other kind seems to
be distributed by these people...

I don't have a problem with the concept. But can't help the feeling we all
might be able to cook our own prepared\preserved baits that might be far
more effective....




"Richard @" > wrote in message
...
> Yeah, doubters read the email address....bogus because I'm fed up of
getting
> spammed myself in my personal email accounts.
>
> My interest in this product is genuine, as is my interest in fishing.
>
> Nice to be proved *guilty* by someone with such colourful language.
>
>
> "steven burling" > wrote in message
> ...
> > **** off spammer
> >
> >
> > p.s. doubters read the mail address
> >
> >
>
>

[Ian D]

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 19:00:57 +0000, "Derek.Moody"
> wrote:


>> They're pretty opportunistic feeders. If it smells right then it's
>> food seems to be the way they work.
>
>Sure, and the easy way is to provide them with something that -is- food.
>

It isn't always easy though.
If you live a long way from the coast, and can't plan your trips in
advance, but have to seize the opportunities as and when they occur,
getting fresh bait can be a problem.
I've got a freezer full of bait, but something like fish strips, that
has a long shelf life and is easy to store, would be a real help if an
effective one could be developed.
The fact that inferior (to the point of being totally ineffective)
products sell well does indicate that there is some demand.

Personally I'd say that if the same money was spent on research as
goes into developing synthetic flavourings for the food industry,
there'd be one on the market very quickly.
As the likely sales probably would never justify the research costs
then we might be waiting a long time.

Cheers
Ian D

[Derek.Moody]

In article >, Ian D
> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 19:00:57 +0000, "Derek.Moody"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >> They're pretty opportunistic feeders. If it smells right then it's
> >> food seems to be the way they work.
> >
> >Sure, and the easy way is to provide them with something that -is- food.

> It isn't always easy though.
> If you live a long way from the coast, and can't plan your trips in
> advance, but have to seize the opportunities as and when they occur,
> getting fresh bait can be a problem.

But if you ar4 travelling that far you are almost bound to pass a
supermarket, they're often open at antisocial hours too.

Look for relatively tough-fleshed fish attached to it's skin if it's from
the freezer cabinet. If Clive G is lurking he may come in and tell you about
using frozen plaice on Gower in the 70's. Among the 'exotics' there will
probably be frozen calimari and mussels.

Buy a pack of the cheapest (frozen will do) chicken breasts, cut strips from
them - or try liver as discussed here recently.

And an amazing range of species will take floatfished bread.

Then once you have caught your first tiddler you have fresh fishbait.

> The fact that inferior (to the point of being totally ineffective)
> products sell well does indicate that there is some demand.

Not really, it means that many beginners have been brainwashed by the
angling mags into thinking that only a tiny range of baits will do. The
artificials are advertised there too so they've heard of them.

> Personally I'd say that if the same money was spent on research as
> goes into developing synthetic flavourings for the food industry,
> there'd be one on the market very quickly.

A new one every minute. We don't need them.

Of course there's one alternative that no-one seems to have mentioned.
You don't have to have edible bait. Spinners, plugs, feathers and flies
work too, even in the dark and in wild weather.

Cheerio,

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[Matt Rathney Quinn. TFGTV Scotland.]

Frankly, I cain't be arsed!

If I go to Florida (and the septics don't seem to welcoming right now!) I'm
for takin' the we'an to disneyland!

What happens oot there proves f'all about how Cockenzie power station or
Ardrossan harbour or Seahouses in going to fish..... Evidence is Fishbites
DON'T work in these parts. 'least not as well as their distributors and the
price would have us believe.... and not a FRACTION as well as the most
unlikely of alternatives.......

What's more the ******** that flog this stuff INSIST of spamming us all with
largely fanciful tales of glory......

ALL of which taken together renders then IMHO ......SNAKE OIL!!!!!!!!




<Capt Ahab> wrote in message
s.com...
> On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 22:44:43 +0000, Ian D >
> wrote:
> I suggest that you go here and ask the surf fishers on this board what
> they think of fish bites.

[Derek.Moody]

In article >,
<URL:mailto:[email protected].> wrote:

> Your current Tournament Casting Champion is a frequent poster there so
> the information is reliable for the most part.

Didn't know we had one. Being able to cast a long way is no indication of
fishing ability btw, rather the reverse in many cases.

I shall ignore artificial baits until such time as I am regularly outfished
by those using them in the waters -I- fish.

Cheerio,

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[Richard @]

I have to admit I didn't expect my original question on fishbites to spark
such controversy. Thanks for all your replies, it's been very useful. And
I'm still undecided whether to try them or not. I might do a bit of snooping
around my local tackle shops to see if they stock it and if not, why not.

To people who have successfully used this stuff, please keep us posted with
your catches this year. I for one would like to hear about them!

Thanks again all,

Richard