Brenig 2004

[Reg Sweetmore]

Now that we have sorted out Andrew's Scotland Holidays, can we give some
thought for a suitable date for Brenig.
As the last one was so successful, I can't wait to return with my mate Alec
so that we can show you how to fish it!*****.
Cheers & Tight Lines,
Reg (Diamonds)

Every Day Is A Bonus!
Make The Most Of It!

http://www.sweetmore.fsnet.co.uk

[W. D. Grey]

In article >, Reg Sweetmore
> writes
>Now that we have sorted out Andrew's Scotland Holidays, can we give some
>thought for a suitable date for Brenig.
>As the last one was so successful, I can't wait to return with my mate Alec
>so that we can show you how to fish it!*****.
>Cheers & Tight Lines,
>Reg (Diamonds)
>
>Every Day Is A Bonus!
>Make The Most Of It!

Hi Reg you little sparkler you :-),


Thanks for putting the "kettle on" - I'll have time to think about it
until the tea's made :-)

A lot of metaphorical stuff here !
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[Aquazur-Dra]

HI reg

Ive Got the dates on the 2nd / 3rd weekend in July booked !?-

Sat 11th July or 17th of July ?

DAVE A

PS E mail me if any one wants to join in Irish gathering 7th to 12th
September 2004 on Salmon fishing on River MOY !!

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Reg Sweetmore > wrote in message
...
> Now that we have sorted out Andrew's Scotland Holidays, can we give some
> thought for a suitable date for Brenig.
> As the last one was so successful, I can't wait to return with my mate
Alec
> so that we can show you how to fish it!*****.
> Cheers & Tight Lines,
> Reg (Diamonds)
>
> Every Day Is A Bonus!
> Make The Most Of It!
>
> http://www.sweetmore.fsnet.co.uk
>
>

[Alec Powell]

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Reg Sweetmore, gave forth these words of wisdom:
>Now that we have sorted out Andrew's Scotland Holidays, can we give some
>thought for a suitable date for Brenig.
>As the last one was so successful, I can't wait to return with my mate Alec
>so that we can show you how to fish it!*****.
>Cheers & Tight Lines,
>Reg (Diamonds)
>
>Every Day Is A Bonus!
>Make The Most Of It!
>
>http://www.sweetmore.fsnet.co.uk
Diamonds!
Good to hear from you! Take it as read that as we speak plans are afoot
to organise a Brenig gathering in the summer. Either Andy or Dave will
be putting something to the NG soon I hope.
Whatever happens I look forward to our yearly whinge about all things in
general and hope we can capitalise on our success of last year against
all odds and the experts advice :-)
Cheers,
Alec
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[Andy Lawson]

Hi All,

Well.... As Alec indicated, we have started to look at our Annual Gathering
and what has become over the past 4 years, the "Pilgrimage to Brenig".
Unfortunately, the only period that Alec Powell, Dave Lane and I can make
this year is the Friday 30th Saturday 31st July. I have enquired as to the
water and boat availability at Brenig and it's fully booked for that
weekend. Indeed, the ONLY available dates are 17/18 July, 7/8 August and 4/5
September. As I said, the three of us just can't make those weekends.

I have looked at an alternative venue called Cwellyn. It's a large water
with stunning scenery, almost at the foot of Snowden and is a wild Brown
Trout water but also has Arctic Char, Seatrout and Salmon if you can find
'em!

The fishing is owned by Seiont Gwyrfai & Llynfi Fishing Society. Prices for
fishing vary from £8 per day for Cwellyn plus a boat at £12 per day plus the
hire of an electric motor if required. However, if you check out their web
site http://www.hgt.gwynedd.gov.uk/sg/Default.htm and follow the links,
you'll see they have multiple waters and a daily permit to fish all of them
is £15 which includes their Rivers and stocked lake for Rainbows. All are
fairly close to Cwellyn, so quite a big choice.

The accommodation is good at Cwellyn and details can be found here:
http://www.snowdoninn.co.uk/index.asp Again, follow the links to see all the
options as fishing permits, boats etc are all booked here. The Cwellyn Arms
is only a short stroll from the lake.

I phoned the Cwellyn Arms and all options for the bunk house, farm house and
camping site are available for 30/31 July. Only 1 room left for B&B in the
pub, but that may not be an issue. The proprietor told me that the farm
house is available and has multiple options available in terms of room
availability and breakfast is available in the pub.
The price for the farm house accommodation is £95 per night for 4 people.
For 5 its £110, for 6 its £120 and so on a sliding scale. Rooms vary from
twins, doubles etc.

The other option is the bunk house, but it is an open area with multiple
bunks sleeping 22, unlike Glan Aber with only two bunks per room. So unless
we had 22 people, we may have to share with other guests.

Some of us did a mini gathering here some 4 years ago and enjoyed ourselves,
so it's not completely new.

Let me know what you think (via this group) to this as a possibility and I
would suggest that if it's a goer we need to get definite numbers and should
try and book up very quickly.

All the best

Andy Lawson

[Derek.Moody]

In article >, Andy Lawson
> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Well.... As Alec indicated, we have started to look at our Annual Gathering

> this year is the Friday 30th Saturday 31st July. I have enquired as to the

I won't know until much closer the time...

> I have looked at an alternative venue called Cwellyn. It's a large water
> with stunning scenery, almost at the foot of Snowden and is a wild Brown
> Trout water but also has Arctic Char, Seatrout and Salmon if you can find
> 'em!

Interesting.

> Let me know what you think (via this group) to this as a possibility and I
> would suggest that if it's a goer we need to get definite numbers and should
> try and book up very quickly.

Er, tricky.

Not much help there was I?

Cheerio,

--
>>

[Reg Sweetmore]

Count me in please Andy.

I'll try anything once! (Within Reason)

Reg (Diamonds)

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[Dave Lane]

In message >
"Andy Lawson" > wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Well.... As Alec indicated, we have started to look at our Annual Gathering
> and what has become over the past 4 years, the "Pilgrimage to Brenig".
> Unfortunately, the only period that Alec Powell, Dave Lane and I can make
> this year is the Friday 30th Saturday 31st July. I have enquired as to the
> water and boat availability at Brenig and it's fully booked for that
> weekend. Indeed, the ONLY available dates are 17/18 July, 7/8 August and 4/5
> September. As I said, the three of us just can't make those weekends.
>
> I have looked at an alternative venue called Cwellyn. It's a large water
> with stunning scenery, almost at the foot of Snowden and is a wild Brown
> Trout water but also has Arctic Char, Seatrout and Salmon if you can find
> 'em!


Hi all,

I'm really sorry that I have been unable to contribute to all this
for a while - but I've been up to my ears in life/work/house renovation
and so on....and my grateful thanks to Andy for doing all of this research.
It was me that suggested Cwellyn, as it is a fantastic, beautiful spot,
and a fine alternative to Brenig, as long as you're not after stockie-
bashing. You will have access to a number of waters, including
Llyn Padarn, right by Llanberis. Andy mentioned the boats, but you
can also go float-tubing if insane. There is also a campsite for the
hardier souls, should this be a help in trying to sort accomodation.

We had a mini gathering there a few years back, and you'll find a couple
of pages about this at: http://xavier.bangor.ac.uk/dlane/cwellyn/

thanks again Adny,

cheers

Dave

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[Derek.Moody]

In article >, Dave Lane
> wrote:

> can also go float-tubing if insane. There is also a campsite for the
> hardier souls, should this be a help in trying to sort accomodation.

Oh good. That'll make last minute bookings possible even if all other beds
have gone.

Cheerio,

--
>>

[Alec Powell]

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Dave Lane, gave forth these words of wisdom:
> thanks again Adny,
Yes, thanks Adny :-)
Sounds great to me. I will take the option of camping this year I think,
(just to disprove the rumour that I'm a "southern softie" as some
people would suggest!) (No names - no pack drill:-) and it keeps me
away from Adny's snoring.
I know that Dan Porter will be joining us, albeit for some
walking/photography, rather than fishing, so we have at least 4
definites.
I believe there is a possibility of some of us travelling on the
Thursday so we could get two days fishing in.

Reg: want to share a tent?

Cheers,
Alec
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[Reg Sweetmore]

Alec,
I would be delighted to share a tent with you and Dan if you decide to camp!
I am a hardened camper from the midlands, and have all the gear if you need
me to bring anything.
Looking forward to meeting you all again.
It's a good idea to travel on the Thursday and get in 2-Days fishing, please
count me in if you decide to do so.
Cheers,
Reg (Diamonds)
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"Alec Powell" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Dave Lane, gave forth these words of wisdom:
> > thanks again Adny,
> Yes, thanks Adny :-)
> Sounds great to me. I will take the option of camping this year I think,
> (just to disprove the rumour that I'm a "southern softie" as some
> people would suggest!) (No names - no pack drill:-) and it keeps me
> away from Adny's snoring.
> I know that Dan Porter will be joining us, albeit for some
> walking/photography, rather than fishing, so we have at least 4
> definites.
> I believe there is a possibility of some of us travelling on the
> Thursday so we could get two days fishing in.
>
> Reg: want to share a tent?
>
> Cheers,
> Alec
> --
> Alec and Valerie Powell Watlington Oxon. UK
>
> http://www.prole.demon.co.uk
>
>
>

[Andy Lawson]

<snip>
>
> Let me know what you think (via this group) to this as a possibility and I
> would suggest that if it's a goer we need to get definite numbers and
should
> try and book up very quickly.
>

So far, only three definite:

Myself
Alec Powell
Reg Sweetmore

Two possible:

Dave Lane - Current workload getting in the way of concentrating on this :-)
Derek Moody - Probably need to make his own arrangements nearer the time

No one else?

Regards,

Andy Lawson

[colinonline]

Hi All , Camping at Cwellyn sounds great, should be able to make it but
element of uncertainty there due to wife's hols. starting that weekend. As
it looks like a UK holiday this year I may just swing it. Couldn't make it
last year as still busy doing up the house in West Wales, all finished now
so anticipating a more leisurely year. Thoroughly consumed with sewin fever
now, visions of day time trout and night time sewin extravaganza ( free of
family ties.....) in N. Wales extremely appealing. Brenig was never good to
me.......
Colin

[Reg Sweetmore]

Come on lads, lets have some names and make it a good one!!

Tight Lines,

Reg

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"Andy Lawson" > wrote in message
...
> <snip>
> >
> > Let me know what you think (via this group) to this as a possibility and
I
> > would suggest that if it's a goer we need to get definite numbers and
> should
> > try and book up very quickly.
> >
>
> So far, only three definite:
>
> Myself
> Alec Powell
> Reg Sweetmore
>
> Two possible:
>
> Dave Lane - Current workload getting in the way of concentrating on this
:-)
> Derek Moody - Probably need to make his own arrangements nearer the time
>
> No one else?
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy Lawson
>
>
>

[Dave Lane]

In message >
"Andy Lawson" > wrote:

> <snip>
> >
> > Let me know what you think (via this group) to this as a possibility and I
> > would suggest that if it's a goer we need to get definite numbers and
> should
> > try and book up very quickly.
> >
>
> So far, only three definite:
>
> Myself
> Alec Powell
> Reg Sweetmore
>
> Two possible:
>
> Dave Lane - Current workload getting in the way of concentrating on this :-)
yes - 'fraid so - am really mad busy on all fronts at the mo - but looking
forward to a couple of weeks' time when the new season opens -

sorry that I can't be playing a more active part in getting this together,
but will hope to make it on the day. The bonus of the camp site is that
latecomers shouldn't have any problem, and will look forward to seeing
you all there..

cheers,

Dave



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[Andy Lawson]

So..... We're going for the camping solution? It's been a loooong time since
I've done that!

How about the fishing venues? Choice of several options. Please check out
the web page:

http://www.hgt.gwynedd.gov.uk/sg/Prices.htm

We'll need to book permits and especially boats well in advance as they're
limited numbers, otherwise only shore fishing will be available.

Let me know your preferences.


--
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[W. D. Grey]

In article >, colinonline
> writes
>Hi All , Camping at Cwellyn sounds great, should be able to make it but
>element of uncertainty there due to wife's hols. starting that weekend. As
>it looks like a UK holiday this year I may just swing it. Couldn't make it
>last year as still busy doing up the house in West Wales, all finished now
>so anticipating a more leisurely year. Thoroughly consumed with sewin fever
>now, visions of day time trout and night time sewin extravaganza ( free of
>family ties.....) in N. Wales extremely appealing. Brenig was never good to
>me.......

Some of you regulars already know that I have photos of the campsite up
and running on my web-site. For those that haven't seen it:

Check out the WALKS link, then the Expedition 12 - Nantlle Ridge pages.

http://www.graigroad.demon.co.uk
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[W. D. Grey]

In article >, Andy Lawson
> writes
><snip>
>>
>> Let me know what you think (via this group) to this as a possibility and I
>> would suggest that if it's a goer we need to get definite numbers and
>should
>> try and book up very quickly.
>>
>
>So far, only three definite:
>
>Myself
>Alec Powell
>Reg Sweetmore
>
>Two possible:
>
>Dave Lane - Current workload getting in the way of concentrating on this :-)
>Derek Moody - Probably need to make his own arrangements nearer the time
>
>No one else?
>
>Regards,
>
>Andy Lawson
>
>
>

As a matter of interest, for anyone not wishing to fishing Llyn Cwellyn,
is there any decent river fishing nearby - I'm thinking of the Afon
Glaslyn at Beddgelert. Any ideas or local knowledge Dave?
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[Dave Lane]

In message >
"Andy Lawson" > wrote:

>
> >
> > As a matter of interest, for anyone not wishing to fishing Llyn Cwellyn,
> > is there any decent river fishing nearby - I'm thinking of the Afon
> > Glaslyn at Beddgelert. Any ideas or local knowledge Dave?
> > --
> > Bill Grey
> > http://www.billboy.co.uk
>
> When I spoke to the Secretary of the fishing club, he indicated to me that
> the river fishing was available as well on a day ticket. May have to confirm
> again just to make sure.
>
> http://www.hgt.gwynedd.gov.uk/sg/Rivers.htm
>
> I wish you could make the trip Bill..... We'll miss you!



There are the rivers Seiont, Gwyrfai and Llyfni nearby. Noted
for sea trout, but there will also be salmon about at this time of year.
iirc, day ticket prices are very reasonable - I can't remember specifics
at the mo, but will get chance to look it all up sometime soon (I hope!)
Meanwhile, check out the site at:
http://www.hgt.gwynedd.gov.uk/sg/Default.htm



Regarding accomodation for those thinking of coming - why don't those
of you who are definites hire the farmhouse? I think that there are
two available from the pub. Those of us who aren't sure can make do
with the camping.... just a thought...

hth,


Dave

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[Andy Lawson]

Wasn't it Bill who replied:
>
> I may be tempted to bring my tent along as long as I'm not the only one
> :-)
>
Well.... Alec has said he'll be using a tent and has offered Reg a place.
Dave Lane told me today that he'll use a tent as well. Collin may be able to
make it and will also camp out. I'll be happy do the same, so you certainly
wouldn't be the only one.

We can all sit around the camp fire! :-)

> Of course, the car must be close at hand - that's where all the grub
> will be :-)

Ah..... well now, that all depends if your going the whole nine yards and
cooking as well! Me? I'll use the pub for breakfast and evening meal.

BTW, according to the club secretary, they've improved the access by
building a road/track right down to the lake.

All the best,

Andy Lawson

[W. D. Grey]

In article >, Andy Lawson
> writes
>Ah..... well now, that all depends if your going the whole nine yards and
>cooking as well! Me? I'll use the pub for breakfast and evening meal.

Now that is NOT camping.

Go for it Andy brew up and do the bacon and eggs bit in the morning and
you'll feel much better for it. Anyway - I'm and OAP struggling on a
state pension :-)

I like the camp fire bit, but the midges will definitely be a problem.
In the same breath as camp fire I speak of BBQ - how about that then ?
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[Derek.Moody]

In article >, W. D. Grey
> wrote:
> In article >, Andy Lawson
> > writes
> >Ah..... well now, that all depends if your going the whole nine yards and
> >cooking as well! Me? I'll use the pub for breakfast and evening meal.
>
> Now that is NOT camping.
>
> Go for it Andy brew up and do the bacon and eggs bit in the morning and
> you'll feel much better for it. Anyway - I'm and OAP struggling on a
> state pension :-)
>
> I like the camp fire bit, but the midges will definitely be a problem.
> In the same breath as camp fire I speak of BBQ - how about that then ?

As long as bbq or campfire is kept going it should reduce the midge problem
but a percentage always get through - just how bad are they up there?

A few bottles of brown ale will help to keep them off too - Should one drink
brown with bbq'd trout? Does anyone care?

Cheerio,

--
>>

[Andy Lawson]

I've got no problems in having a barbecue if someone's prepared to bring one
along. The again, we could really 'rough it' and use a camp fire to cook our
catches on! Then again, based on our normal catch rates, we might be left
somewhat hungry! :-)

Brown ale? Tut tut...... A nice little Chardonnay surely!

--
Andy Lawson

[Derek.Moody]

In article >, Andy Lawson
> wrote:
>
> I've got no problems in having a barbecue if someone's prepared to bring one
> along. The again, we could really 'rough it' and use a camp fire to cook our
> catches on! Then again, based on our normal catch rates, we might be left
> somewhat hungry! :-)
>
> Brown ale? Tut tut...... A nice little Chardonnay surely!

Brown ale is high in vit b complex - which confuses the midges targetting
systems. The Methodist's used to issue it to their missionaries in
mosquito-infested climes - for external application only.

I find a couple of spoonsfull is enough to slap on but then there's the rest
of the bottle to deal with.

Cheerio,

--
>>

[Alec Powell]

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, Andy Lawson, gave forth these words of wisdom:
>
>I've got no problems in having a barbecue if someone's prepared to bring one
>along. The again, we could really 'rough it' and use a camp fire to cook our
>catches on! Then again, based on our normal catch rates, we might be left
>somewhat hungry! :-)
>
>Brown ale? Tut tut...... A nice little Chardonnay surely!
>
Oi! Messrs Lawson and Moody. You blokes are giving us southerners a bad
name and giving ammo to the northern and western crowd that we are a
bunch of softies! Barbecues and Brown Ale! Whatever next?
We're supposed to be going there to fish not take our deck chairs and
sit by the side of the lake sunning ourselves.
I dunno! What next? Take our wives and kids with us?
Yours,
Disgusted of Watlington
BTW I must be a reincarnated midge 'cos I hate Brown Ale too!

[W. D. Grey]

In article >, Derek.Moody
> writes
>As long as bbq or campfire is kept going it should reduce the midge problem
>but a percentage always get through - just how bad are they up there?

Midges are attracted to exhaled CO2. So hold your breath for a trouble
free evening:-)

We had a BBQ and they were a damn nuisance. I have a midge net to wear
over my broad brimmed hat and that did a good job of keeping them away.
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[W. D. Grey]

In article >, Alec Powell
> writes
>We're supposed to be going there to fish not take our deck chairs and
>sit by the side of the lake sunning ourselves.

Look at the form book matey!!

No fish and P*****G down Sunning your self and cooking our catches
indeed......!!!

Better bring a pound or two of sausages and a damned good raincoat :-)

Have faith.
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[W. D. Grey]

In article >, Andy Lawson
> writes
>
>I've got no problems in having a barbecue if someone's prepared to bring one
>along. The again, we could really 'rough it' and use a camp fire to cook our
>catches on! Then again, based on our normal catch rates, we might be left
>somewhat hungry! :-)
>
>Brown ale? Tut tut...... A nice little Chardonnay surely!
>

Is it still likely to be Cwellyn, or is there a nicer venue we can
consider.

I'm still only in the considering stage.
--
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[Andy Lawson]

>
> Is it still likely to be Cwellyn, or is there a nicer venue we can
> consider.
>
> I'm still only in the considering stage.
> --

Unless you know of or can suggest an alternative venue?

--
Andy Lawson

[Derek.Moody]

In article >, Alec Powell
> wrote:

> Oi! Messrs Lawson and Moody. You blokes are giving us southerners a bad
> name and giving ammo to the northern and western crowd that we are a
> bunch of softies! Barbecues and Brown Ale! Whatever next?

Some soothing music would be nice...

Cheerio,

--
>>

[Dave Lane]

In message > you wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, Andy Lawson, gave forth these words of wisdom:
> >
> >I've got no problems in having a barbecue if someone's prepared to bring one
> >along. The again, we could really 'rough it' and use a camp fire to cook our
> >catches on! Then again, based on our normal catch rates, we might be left
> >somewhat hungry! :-)
> >
> >Brown ale? Tut tut...... A nice little Chardonnay surely!
> >
> Oi! Messrs Lawson and Moody. You blokes are giving us southerners a bad
> name and giving ammo to the northern and western crowd that we are a
> bunch of softies! Barbecues and Brown Ale! Whatever next?
> We're supposed to be going there to fish not take our deck chairs and
> sit by the side of the lake sunning ourselves.



not a lot of a chance of that - although given last year's heatwave...

as for the bbq, well, let's see what happens.

Had a word with the boss, picked the right moment, and the good news
is that I am in for this weekend. I'll be going for the camping option,
but I do suggest that some of you get together to let the farmhouse, if
camping ain't your thing.

Bill - sorry if you're not too keen on Cwellyn - but do remember that
you are slap in the middle of some of the most scenic lakes in the
country - especially if you have a look at Llyn Nantlle or Llyn Padarn -
all of which are 'run' by the same AA. There is also the stocked lake,
for those who don't fancy their chances with the local brownies.
There's river fishing a'plenty, too - but this will of course depend
upon the recent rainfall.

I'm bringing Chardonnay, just don't tell the boss.

> giving ammo to the northern and western crowd that we are a
> bunch of softies!

pffft, I don't fight with the defenceless. Bit like stockie-bashing.

> I dunno! What next? Take our wives and kids with us?

no, but bring a model... :+) get some free flying lessons in...you'll
get bored casting away with no result. (dons asbestos suit)

look fwd to seeing you there all,

cheers

Dave

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[W. D. Grey]

In article >, Dave Lane
> writes
>as for the bbq, well, let's see what happens.
>
> Had a word with the boss, picked the right moment, and the good news
> is that I am in for this weekend. I'll be going for the camping option,
> but I do suggest that some of you get together to let the farmhouse, if
> camping ain't your thing.

When I was there in 2002 with uk.rec.walking Graham (The Landlord) let
us have a BBQ - I think he has a metal one one site. Anyway the little
disposable ones are fine.
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[Steven Crook]

Dave Lane wrote:

> In message > you wrote:
>
>
>>On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, Andy Lawson, gave forth these words of wisdom:
>>
>>>I've got no problems in having a barbecue if someone's prepared to bring one
>>>along. The again, we could really 'rough it' and use a camp fire to cook our
>>>catches on! Then again, based on our normal catch rates, we might be left
>>>somewhat hungry! :-)
>>>
>>>Brown ale? Tut tut...... A nice little Chardonnay surely!
>>>
>>>
>>Oi! Messrs Lawson and Moody. You blokes are giving us southerners a bad
>>name and giving ammo to the northern and western crowd that we are a
>>bunch of softies! Barbecues and Brown Ale! Whatever next?
>>We're supposed to be going there to fish not take our deck chairs and
>>sit by the side of the lake sunning ourselves.
>>
>
>
>
> not a lot of a chance of that - although given last year's heatwave...
>
> as for the bbq, well, let's see what happens.
>
> Had a word with the boss, picked the right moment, and the good news
> is that I am in for this weekend. I'll be going for the camping option,
> but I do suggest that some of you get together to let the farmhouse, if
> camping ain't your thing.
>
> Bill - sorry if you're not too keen on Cwellyn - but do remember that
> you are slap in the middle of some of the most scenic lakes in the
> country - especially if you have a look at Llyn Nantlle or Llyn Padarn -
> all of which are 'run' by the same AA. There is also the stocked lake,
> for those who don't fancy their chances with the local brownies.
> There's river fishing a'plenty, too - but this will of course depend
> upon the recent rainfall.
>
> I'm bringing Chardonnay, just don't tell the boss.
>
>
>>giving ammo to the northern and western crowd that we are a
>>bunch of softies!
>>
>
> pffft, I don't fight with the defenceless. Bit like stockie-bashing.
>
>
>>I dunno! What next? Take our wives and kids with us?
>>
>
> no, but bring a model... :+) get some free flying lessons in...you'll
> get bored casting away with no result. (dons asbestos suit)
>
> look fwd to seeing you there all,
>
> cheers
>
> Dave

Are there some decent slopes! Hmm... two hobbies in one
trip, I shall have to rewind and check the dates. Mind you,
the Avon, Bourne and all those cute rivers around here are
usually enough.

Have fun y'all

Steve
Salisbury, UK

[W. D. Grey]

In article >, Andy Lawson
> writes
><snip>
>>
>> Let me know what you think (via this group) to this as a possibility and I
>> would suggest that if it's a goer we need to get definite numbers and
>should
>> try and book up very quickly.
>>
>
>So far, only three definite:
>
>Myself
>Alec Powell
>Reg Sweetmore
>
>Two possible:
>
>Dave Lane - Current workload getting in the way of concentrating on this :-)
>Derek Moody - Probably need to make his own arrangements nearer the time
>
>No one else?
>
>Regards,
>
>Andy Lawson
>
>
>
Alec, Reg, Andy and Dave,

A pal of mine has been commissioned to do some research on North wales
fisheries by the Welsh Tourist Board. he has just returned from a few
days in N. Wales and has given me some information regarding a fairly
new fishery near Cerrigydrudion - we usually go through there to get to
Brenig. I've tried e-mailing the info but the mail gets rejected
somewhere along the line.

Please e-mail me so that I can be sure of your adresses.

The Fishery is:

Llyn Derwen Fisheries
Fawnog Rhydd
derwen
LL 21 9RN

telephone: 01824 750 667

It is about 6 miles out of Cerrigydrudion on the Ruthin Road. There is
camping available at the Giler Pub which is about 2 miles out of
Cerrigydrudion. My pal has contacts in "The Crown" another Pub close by
which has specialist beers !!!!

I
l'll email details to anyone above who wants them.


--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

[W. D. Grey]

In article >, Andy Lawson
> writes
><snip>
>>
>> Let me know what you think (via this group) to this as a possibility and I
>> would suggest that if it's a goer we need to get definite numbers and
>should
>> try and book up very quickly.
>>
>
>So far, only three definite:
>
>Myself
>Alec Powell
>Reg Sweetmore
>
>Two possible:
>
>Dave Lane - Current workload getting in the way of concentrating on this :-)
>Derek Moody - Probably need to make his own arrangements nearer the time
>
>No one else?
>
>Regards,
>
>Andy Lawson
>
>
>
Hi folks,
I have some info on another fishery near Cerrigydrudion. Llyn Derwen
Fishery which is situated about 6 miles out of Cerrigydrudion on the
Ruthin Road. the post code is LL 21 9RN

Phone: 01824 750 667

The fishing is bank fishing on a 4 acre lake.

The is camping available at The Giler pub about 2 miles out of
Cerrigydrudion on the same road. a pub with camping - can't be bad :-)

Another Pub worth a visit is the Crown - this is also near by and has
specialist beers.

I'll e-mail details to anyone above who wants them.

--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

[W. D. Grey]

In article >, Andy Lawson
> writes
><snip>
>>
>> Let me know what you think (via this group) to this as a possibility and I
>> would suggest that if it's a goer we need to get definite numbers and
>should
>> try and book up very quickly.
>>
>
>So far, only three definite:
>
>Myself
>Alec Powell
>Reg Sweetmore
>
>Two possible:
>
>Dave Lane - Current workload getting in the way of concentrating on this :-)
>Derek Moody - Probably need to make his own arrangements nearer the time
>
>No one else?
>
>Regards,
>
>Andy Lawson
>
>
>
I don't know if I've mentioned it before, but you can see photos of the
Cwellyn camp site on my web-site. Follow the Walks Link to Expedition 12
- Nantlle Ridge.

If I don't make it - it may be because I'll be in Snowdonia anyway with
another NG......uk.rec.walking.

Have a great time.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk