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Gone Angling
December 20th, 2003, 04:16 PM
I've seen people float fishing with large single action reels. I was wondering
what the attraction is to using this type of reel.

smiles
December 20th, 2003, 05:21 PM
What do you mean by "float fishing"? What single action reels? Fly reels
are single action. Mooching reels (very large fly reels are single action.
You cannot cast with a single action reel.....maybe 10 feet at most. Where
did you see this. What kind of fish were they fishing for? Not enough
detail here.



"Gone Angling" > wrote in message
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> I've seen people float fishing with large single action reels. I was
wondering
> what the attraction is to using this type of reel.
>
>

Gone Angling
December 21st, 2003, 10:44 PM
I think they are mooching reels. They were using them for salmon and steelhead
with spawn bags as bait. They seem to be able to cast with them.

December 22nd, 2003, 03:39 AM
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:21:04 -0500, "smiles" >
wrote:

>What do you mean by "float fishing"? What single action reels? Fly reels
>are single action. Mooching reels (very large fly reels are single action.
>You cannot cast with a single action reel.....maybe 10 feet at most. Where
>did you see this. What kind of fish were they fishing for? Not enough
>detail here.

From your post I see you're something of a newbie to the diverse and
wonderful world of Angling here in Canada.
Indeed it's possible to cast as far as any level wind with a Centrepin
reel-I see it all the time although I don't own any of that gear
m'self.
Centrepins are more popular in Ontario than here in BC-the best site
for that kind of casting is found here
http://www.spiderwebguru.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl?#27192
Some info here
http://www.coastangler.com/fishing/centerpin_reels.shtml

john
December 22nd, 2003, 03:20 PM
Go here ...

http://www.floatfishing.net/

Its a Toronto area board that fishes the tribs going into Lake Ontario. Good
photos. Some really nice fish ! The BBS is pretty good for info.

John


"smiles" > wrote in message
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> What do you mean by "float fishing"? What single action reels? Fly reels
> are single action. Mooching reels (very large fly reels are single
action.
> You cannot cast with a single action reel.....maybe 10 feet at most.
Where
> did you see this. What kind of fish were they fishing for? Not enough
> detail here.
>
>
>
> "Gone Angling" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I've seen people float fishing with large single action reels. I was
> wondering
> > what the attraction is to using this type of reel.
> >
> >
>
>

smiles
December 22nd, 2003, 05:18 PM
Au contraire salmon guy. I worked for many years as a conservation officer
on a territory that offers fishing. I often worked at the main gate where
on some weekends, over 4 thousand people would pass. I got lots of
questions. To most people, "float fishing" is using an ordinary rod and
reel combination and a small float for panfish. To others, "float fishing"
is fishing from a contraption mainly comprised of inflatable bags of air so
the fisherman is sitting in it while his feet dangle into the water
underneath. Many people consider bait casting reels as "single action
reels" while others consider "center pin reels" as open faced spinning
reels. I know that you can cast from a center pin reel but I would not want
to use it for long distance surf casting. Once you get one of those single
action reels spinning, they won't stop and tangles are a mess. If the
original poster had mentioned that it was for river fishing for steelhead or
salmon, I would not have asked for more details.

> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:21:04 -0500, "smiles" >
> wrote:
>
> >What do you mean by "float fishing"? What single action reels? Fly
reels
> >are single action. Mooching reels (very large fly reels are single
action.
> >You cannot cast with a single action reel.....maybe 10 feet at most.
Where
> >did you see this. What kind of fish were they fishing for? Not enough
> >detail here.
>
> From your post I see you're something of a newbie to the diverse and
> wonderful world of Angling here in Canada.
> Indeed it's possible to cast as far as any level wind with a Centrepin
> reel-I see it all the time although I don't own any of that gear
> m'self.
> Centrepins are more popular in Ontario than here in BC-the best site
> for that kind of casting is found here
> http://www.spiderwebguru.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl?#27192
> Some info here
> http://www.coastangler.com/fishing/centerpin_reels.shtml

Sam Salmon
December 24th, 2003, 02:28 AM
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:18:16 -0500, "smiles" >
wrote:

>Au contraire salmon guy. I worked for many years as a conservation officer
>on a territory that offers fishing.
Good for you!

> I often worked at the main gate where on some weekends, over 4 thousand people would pass.
Did all that traffic give you a sore neck?

> I got lots of questions.
Good for you-and good for your mental accuity.

>To most people, "float fishing" is using an ordinary rod and reel combination and a small float for panfish.
Whoever you mean by 'most people' they are certainly not
Sportfishermen-more like city newbies out for a weekend.
I grew up using bait fished under a float for Pike, Walleye,
Smallmouth and anything else that would eat a minnow but never once
called it 'float fishing' nor did I hear anyone use that phrase.

> To others, "float fishing" is fishing from a contraption mainly comprised of inflatable bags of air so
>the fisherman is sitting in it while his feet dangle into the water
>underneath.
That's called 'Tube Fishing' not float fishing.
Using the logic you're trying to employ sitting in a boat could be
called 'float fishing'-it isn't never has been/never will be.


> Many people consider bait casting reels as "single action reels"
That is a complete falsehood-bait casters are sometimes called
'multipliers' but never 'single action'-where do you get this crap
from-are you drunk?


> while others consider "center pin reels" as open faced spinning reels.
More falsehoods of the dumbest and most transparent variety-will you
stop you are embarrassing yourself.

> I know that you can cast from a center pin reel but I would not want to use it for long distance surf casting.
That's not what you said before-you stated that casting with a
centrepin wasn't possible-why the change?
And Australian have used centrepins to Surfcast for decades-do a
search on Alvey reels and educate yourself.

> Once you get one of those single action reels spinning, they won't stop and tangles are a mess.
How would you know-have you ever used one?
I told you I see them in use all the time on rivers here did you check
the links you were given?
Why do you think that once a spool is moving it can't be stopped-how
do you stop your car-have you ever heard of a brake?
Centrepins have them too!!!

> If the original poster had mentioned that it was for river fishing for steelhead or
>salmon, I would not have asked for more details.
>
If you weren't in such a hurry to flaunt your ignorance you wouldn't
have to lie to cover your sorry ass.
BTW-taking tickets at a Provincial Park is a long way from being a
CO-shuffling paper isn't fishing experience.

smiles
December 25th, 2003, 02:30 AM
So why aren't we all using this kind of equipment for everyday fishing? The
modern open faced spinning reel is an offshoot of the center pin reel. Some
center pin reels even pivot so casting is just like using a spinning reel.
In the eastern part of Canada, there are no center pin reels.

It's plain to see that your social skills are lacking so I won't try to
explain to your narrow little self-centered mind that from different parts
of the world, there are different languages and common everyday items have
different names.

When I said conservation officer it was to explain that I was "Agent de
Conservation Auxiliaire" on a territory called a "Zone d'Exploitation
Contrôlée". I had jurisdiction to make sure that provincial and federal
rules and regulations were respected on that territory. The "ZEC" I worked
is the "ZEC Martin-Valin". You can find it on the internet. My job was to
sell "fishing passes (droits de pêche), fishing licences, give fishing
information (rules, regulations, tips on where to go and what to use) and
sometimes site people for infractions. I was also hired as a biologist.
And I was also hired to protect the environnement and the wildlife. "ZECs"
are run and managed by non-profit organizations such as fishing
associations. People from all walks of life and from everywhere came to
fish, hunt, camp, canoe etc. Some tourists came from Europe and the U.S.
All of them had special names for certain pieces of equipment.

Don't bother answering....I have blocked any further postings from you.


"Sam Salmon" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:18:16 -0500, "smiles" >
> wrote:
>
> >Au contraire salmon guy. I worked for many years as a conservation
officer
> >on a territory that offers fishing.
> Good for you!
>
> > I often worked at the main gate where on some weekends, over 4
thousand people would pass.
> Did all that traffic give you a sore neck?
>
> > I got lots of questions.
> Good for you-and good for your mental accuity.
>
> >To most people, "float fishing" is using an ordinary rod and reel
combination and a small float for panfish.
> Whoever you mean by 'most people' they are certainly not
> Sportfishermen-more like city newbies out for a weekend.
> I grew up using bait fished under a float for Pike, Walleye,
> Smallmouth and anything else that would eat a minnow but never once
> called it 'float fishing' nor did I hear anyone use that phrase.
>
> > To others, "float fishing" is fishing from a contraption mainly
comprised of inflatable bags of air so
> >the fisherman is sitting in it while his feet dangle into the water
> >underneath.
> That's called 'Tube Fishing' not float fishing.
> Using the logic you're trying to employ sitting in a boat could be
> called 'float fishing'-it isn't never has been/never will be.
>
>
> > Many people consider bait casting reels as "single action reels"
> That is a complete falsehood-bait casters are sometimes called
> 'multipliers' but never 'single action'-where do you get this crap
> from-are you drunk?
>
>
> > while others consider "center pin reels" as open faced spinning reels.
> More falsehoods of the dumbest and most transparent variety-will you
> stop you are embarrassing yourself.
>
> > I know that you can cast from a center pin reel but I would not want
to use it for long distance surf casting.
> That's not what you said before-you stated that casting with a
> centrepin wasn't possible-why the change?
> And Australian have used centrepins to Surfcast for decades-do a
> search on Alvey reels and educate yourself.
>
> > Once you get one of those single action reels spinning, they won't stop
and tangles are a mess.
> How would you know-have you ever used one?
> I told you I see them in use all the time on rivers here did you check
> the links you were given?
> Why do you think that once a spool is moving it can't be stopped-how
> do you stop your car-have you ever heard of a brake?
> Centrepins have them too!!!
>
> > If the original poster had mentioned that it was for river fishing
for steelhead or
> >salmon, I would not have asked for more details.
> >
> If you weren't in such a hurry to flaunt your ignorance you wouldn't
> have to lie to cover your sorry ass.
> BTW-taking tickets at a Provincial Park is a long way from being a
> CO-shuffling paper isn't fishing experience.
>

Gone Angling
December 25th, 2003, 04:51 PM
"Smiles"
Keep posting i enjoy reading them.

Sam Salmon
December 29th, 2003, 12:58 AM
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:30:09 -0500, "smiles" >
wrote:

>So why aren't we all using this kind of equipment for everyday fishing?
Here in BC I see it everytime I visted a Salmon bearing river.
In Ontario it's even more popular-why are you so ignorant?

> The modern open faced spinning reel is an offshoot of the center pin reel.
And where is your proof of that you paragon of Angling knowledge?


> Some center pin reels even pivot so casting is just like using a spinningreel.
Those are Alvey reeels from Australia-I'm the one who told you about
them in my last post-remember?

>In the eastern part of Canada, there are no center pin reels.
More garbage lies and BS from someone who can't find his own elbow
http://www.floatfishing.net/ is one of the most populare fishing sites
in Ontario-it's all about Float Fishing with Centrepins-you were given
that site too-don't you remember?
ps-Ontario is Canada's most populous province-ever heard of it?

> It's plain to see that your social skills are lacking so I won't try to
>explain to your narrow little self-centered mind that from different parts
>of the world, there are different languages and common everyday items have
>different names.
I've fished Mexico 11 times, Big Game and Fresh, Costa Rica, Ecuador,
Fiji, Tobago and the mainland USA.
I live in fishing paradise aka British Columbia-you'd be fortunate to
have 5% of my experience.
Tambien you hablo espagnol- y tu cabron?
>
>When I said conservation officer it was to explain that I was "Agent de
>Conservation Auxiliaire" on a territory called a "Zone d'Exploitation
>Contrôlée". ]]
'Auxiliare' is the same word in English as French.
Auxiliary means temporary-so you were a seasonal temporary with no
benefits or seniority and most importantly weren't allowed to carry a
Gun like REAL ZEC COs.

> I had jurisdiction to make sure that provincial and federal r ules and regulations were respected on that territory.
You were a temporary flunkie who followed a real CO around and did
what he told you to do-you had no authority at all.

> sell "fishing passes (droits de pêche), fishing licences, give fishing information (rules, regulations, tips on where to go and what to use) and
>sometimes site people for infractions.
Selling licences and giving directions is what FLUNKIES do-see my
other remarks re: your pathetic attempts at self aggrandizement.

> I was also hired as a biologist.
Taking water samples and temperatures isn't what Biologists do-biology
is done in the Lab-FLUNKIES are hired to do grunt work.
If you're a Biologist where is your degree from?
What year?
Who were your Professors?


> And I was also hired to protect the environnement and the wildlife.
How?
By selling licences and sweeping floors?
LMAO!!!

> "ZECs" are run and managed by non-profit organizations such as fishing associations.
I know about ZEC zones-the ones over the border from where I grew
up-20 minute drive from the Quebec border-are fished clean of Fish and
the Game are mostly gone-so much for the management regime-is that why
they got rid of you?

> People..... fish, hunt, camp, canoe etc. Some tourists came from Europe and the U.S.
My home province of BC heaves with Tourists from across the Planet
what is you point anyway?

>All of them had special names for certain pieces of equipment.
Gee that's really profound-are you ESL?

>Don't bother answering....I have blocked any further postings from you.
I post to the Group and have for 4 years and will continue to-I see
you slinking away as I post...