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alwayfishking
October 7th, 2003, 08:20 PM
I was watching Tv last night and came across this program. Mr Primetime
Sanders and Mike the Ike were fishing together and talking about the sport
of bass fishing,

While Mike comes off as an arrogant. cocky fisherman sometimes, I couldn't
help but identify with him and his love for the sport. He also talked about
getting the sport more publicity and getting more people interested. With
guys like that fishing, it could inspire a lot more younger people to start
or continue to fish.

Primetime also seems to truely love bass fishing, talking about his early
days fishing when he was a youngster, to getting arrested for trespassing on
a lake where he knew the fish would be booming.and were.

They also showed him fishing in Mexico with some friends, catching a whole
lot of bass and whooping it up. He also mentioned the fact that when he is
fishing there are no other worried in the world at that time and place, he
mentioned serenity while fishing. I think that is the main reason I fish as
often as I can. When I am out I don't think about anything else. For that
time, the daily routine called "Life", seems to disappear.

I know Harry started a post about this sometime back but after watching
this figured I would revisit it again. Me personally would welcome someone
like "Primetime" into the sport.

It's funny but when someone asks me about hobbies and such, and I tell them
all I want to do is fish, they are either amused or come back with a "Oh
thats nice", most people do not really understand it. What's involved and
all. The more high profile, outspoken people like Sanders and Ike that are
involved with this sport the better. IMO


Maybe it will help some people view fishing a little differently, help get
rid of that "sitting by the lake with a worm on a bobber" image that so many
people associate with fishing. IMO What are your thoughts?

Randy-

AJH
October 7th, 2003, 08:32 PM
Your joking right? I wouldn't watch these two birds for a minute..both
have absolutely no class. JMO





I fish therefore I lie

Dave Norton
October 7th, 2003, 09:32 PM
As Craig said"Ain't it great to live in America" Guess I'm glad I don't have
time for the tube.

--
Dave Norton
Millennium Rods
"AJH" > wrote in message
...
> Your joking right? I wouldn't watch these two birds for a minute..both
> have absolutely no class. JMO
>
>
>
>
>
> I fish therefore I lie
>

RGarri7470
October 8th, 2003, 12:57 AM
>talking about his early
>days fishing when he was a youngster, to getting arrested for trespassing on
>a lake where he knew the fish would be booming.and were.

I don't like the idea of encouraging tresspassing.
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

Josh
October 8th, 2003, 01:08 AM
I saw that show too and thought it was very good and that the message Dion
and his minister shared with the audience was for the most part pretty
decent and fun to watch.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear

Henry Hefner
October 8th, 2003, 01:55 AM
alwayfishking wrote:
<snip>

He also mentioned the fact that when he is
> fishing there are no other worried in the world at that time and place, he
> mentioned serenity while fishing. I think that is the main reason I fish as
> often as I can. When I am out I don't think about anything else. For that
> time, the daily routine called "Life", seems to disappear.
>
> I know Harry started a post about this sometime back but after watching
> this figured I would revisit it again. Me personally would welcome someone
> like "Primetime" into the sport.
>
> It's funny but when someone asks me about hobbies and such, and I tell them
> all I want to do is fish, they are either amused or come back with a "Oh
> thats nice", most people do not really understand it. What's involved and
> all. The more high profile, outspoken people like Sanders and Ike that are
> involved with this sport the better. IMO
>
>
> Maybe it will help some people view fishing a little differently, help get
> rid of that "sitting by the lake with a worm on a bobber" image that so many
> people associate with fishing. IMO What are your thoughts?
>
> Randy-



Randy, I know what you mean about fishing being therapeutic. You
would think just getting away ANYwhere for a while would help you to
forget the rat-race, but fishing ranks right up there close to prayer
for putting worries aside. You say that people like Neon Sanders being
involved helps fishing, but that's something I will have to think about
more. I know that the popularity of bass fishing has brought about more
lake access, better tackle and boats, more fisheries, etc. But since I
fish for fun and peace instead of competition and money, I wonder if I
wouldn't be better off without the popularity. The best honey holes
wouldn't be as crowded, the fish wouldn't be as skittish, Peta probably
wouldn't see fishing as a threat. You know, I haven't done it for years,
but now that you mention it, I think I would enjoy "sitting by the lake
with a worm on a bobber".
Henry

Marty
October 8th, 2003, 06:18 AM
alwayfishking > wrote in message
...
> Maybe it will help some people view fishing a little differently, help get
> rid of that "sitting by the lake with a worm on a bobber" image that so
many
> people associate with fishing. IMO What are your thoughts?

I'm pretty apathetic. From the viewpoint of this casual angler, the image
doesn't bother me, I don't see the "need" to grow the sport (I suppose it's
another story if you want to make your living fishing Ts), I don't want it
to become another NASCAR, NFL or PGA, I don't think we need more anglers
chasing the existing population of bass and I don't think our lakes and
reservoirs are so desolate that more fast boats are needed on them. From
what I gather, almost every decent lake has multiple tournaments every
weekend. How much more do we need?

Chuck Coger
October 8th, 2003, 07:41 AM
There is a big difference in growing the sport and commercializing it. I
agree we need to grow the sport for "obvious" reasons, and the
commercialization is not what we need at this time.

I remember when one organization added some commercialization flare by
adding Bass Boat Racing. I think as an angling community we did a great job
sending a message that we have limits and this is it. I mean if I wanted to
see boat racing I would go watch the Boat Racing Pro's run them, what's next
fishing off of Ms. Budweiser?

Putting Sanders in the lead role of an Outdoors show, which I was under the
impression was called the New American Sportsman for ESPN Outdoors, is grade
"A" commercialization. I for one won't be watching him, unless he is playing
football against my Buccaneers :o
Next thing you know he'll be weighing the fish at the BASS tourney's lmao

Just my $0.02

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com


"Marty" > wrote in message
...
>
> alwayfishking > wrote in message
> ...
> > Maybe it will help some people view fishing a little differently, help
get
> > rid of that "sitting by the lake with a worm on a bobber" image that so
> many
> > people associate with fishing. IMO What are your thoughts?
>
> I'm pretty apathetic. From the viewpoint of this casual angler, the image
> doesn't bother me, I don't see the "need" to grow the sport (I suppose
it's
> another story if you want to make your living fishing Ts), I don't want it
> to become another NASCAR, NFL or PGA, I don't think we need more anglers
> chasing the existing population of bass and I don't think our lakes and
> reservoirs are so desolate that more fast boats are needed on them. From
> what I gather, almost every decent lake has multiple tournaments every
> weekend. How much more do we need?
>
>
>

alwaysfishking
October 8th, 2003, 11:35 AM
Not encouraging the idea of trespassing as much as it was showing his desire
to just get out and fish somewhere that was new, never said it ws right or
wrong to do it, I could just relate to it, I have come across many private
lakes and ponds, that if given the chance would gladly throw a line out
into, I don't know about trespassing and all but I would be tempted, geez I
have probably read a dozen or so posts on this NG that had people fishing
where they shouldn't be, Like I said it's not right but I can understand
why.
"RGarri7470" > wrote in message
...
> >talking about his early
> >days fishing when he was a youngster, to getting arrested for trespassing
on
> >a lake where he knew the fish would be booming.and were.
>
> I don't like the idea of encouraging tresspassing.
> Ronnie
>
> http://fishing.about.com

alwaysfishking
October 8th, 2003, 11:41 AM
I see your point also and might not have thought to hard about it from that
standpoint, but why not have sanders weigh fish at a bass tourney. It's
obvious that he wasn't just thrown into the show and told " Hey you need to
go learn how to catch a fish" He seemed at least to me, to have a real
passion about the sport. I say let him compete. As long as it is done the
right way. he earns his spot.
"Chuck Coger" > wrote in message
...
> There is a big difference in growing the sport and commercializing it. I
> agree we need to grow the sport for "obvious" reasons, and the
> commercialization is not what we need at this time.
>
> I remember when one organization added some commercialization flare by
> adding Bass Boat Racing. I think as an angling community we did a great
job
> sending a message that we have limits and this is it. I mean if I wanted
to
> see boat racing I would go watch the Boat Racing Pro's run them, what's
next
> fishing off of Ms. Budweiser?
>
> Putting Sanders in the lead role of an Outdoors show, which I was under
the
> impression was called the New American Sportsman for ESPN Outdoors, is
grade
> "A" commercialization. I for one won't be watching him, unless he is
playing
> football against my Buccaneers :o
> Next thing you know he'll be weighing the fish at the BASS tourney's lmao
>
> Just my $0.02
>
> ---
> Chuck Coger
> http://www.fishin-pro.com
>
>
> "Marty" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > alwayfishking > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Maybe it will help some people view fishing a little differently, help
> get
> > > rid of that "sitting by the lake with a worm on a bobber" image that
so
> > many
> > > people associate with fishing. IMO What are your thoughts?
> >
> > I'm pretty apathetic. From the viewpoint of this casual angler, the
image
> > doesn't bother me, I don't see the "need" to grow the sport (I suppose
> it's
> > another story if you want to make your living fishing Ts), I don't want
it
> > to become another NASCAR, NFL or PGA, I don't think we need more anglers
> > chasing the existing population of bass and I don't think our lakes and
> > reservoirs are so desolate that more fast boats are needed on them. From
> > what I gather, almost every decent lake has multiple tournaments every
> > weekend. How much more do we need?
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Phishrace
October 8th, 2003, 06:06 PM
"Chuck Coger" > wrote in message >...
> There is a big difference in growing the sport and commercializing it. I
> agree we need to grow the sport for "obvious" reasons, and the
> commercialization is not what we need at this time.
>
> I remember when one organization added some commercialization flare by
> adding Bass Boat Racing. I think as an angling community we did a great job
> sending a message that we have limits and this is it. I mean if I wanted to
> see boat racing I would go watch the Boat Racing Pro's run them, what's next
> fishing off of Ms. Budweiser?
>
> Putting Sanders in the lead role of an Outdoors show, which I was under the
> impression was called the New American Sportsman for ESPN Outdoors, is grade
> "A" commercialization. I for one won't be watching him, unless he is playing
> football against my Buccaneers :o
> Next thing you know he'll be weighing the fish at the BASS tourney's lmao
>
> Just my $0.02
>
> ---
> Chuck Coger
> http://www.fishin-pro.com

Do you remember the previous host of the show? Didn't think so. Curt
Gowdy. Talk about a snooze-fest. Only thing the show was good for back
then was to help you start your nap earlier.

I had mixed feeling about Sanders hosting a fishing show. After
watching a few episodes I'm thinking it could be worse. As far as
commercialization is concerned, it's a tv show. They are trying to get
viewers. Hell, even PBS is running commercials these days. No escaping
commercialism on tv these days.

-Phish

Gone Angling
October 8th, 2003, 08:07 PM
In this thread there was a comment about fishing being therapeutic (sp). I
agree at the early stages of one's fishing career there is a relaxing element
to angling. As one progresses I notice there is a lot more anxiety. Anxiety
about gear, missed fishing opportunities, missed fish, encounters with CO's,
broken equipment, personality rifts with other anglers and non anglers about
angling. This is what I observe about others.
My view is an angler is an angler and not necessarily a pro angler and
everybody has the same opportunity to just get out there and fish. Enough said.

J Buck
October 8th, 2003, 08:10 PM
<Do you remember the previous host of the show? Didn't think so. Curt
Gowdy. Talk about a snooze-fest. Only thing the show was good for back
then was to help you start your nap earlier>

Nah, Curt was great; he was like your favorite uncle. And as far as the
sleep factor goes, back then the show was more hunting-oriented...I
can't recall <ever> dozing off. Can't say the same about some fishing
shows I've seen. But, to each his own

Marty
October 9th, 2003, 05:46 AM
Chuck Coger > wrote in message
...
> Next thing you know he'll be weighing the fish at the BASS tourney's lmao

Don't laugh, if they thought it would increase ratings, he'd have the job in
a heartbeat.