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f.blair
August 9th, 2004, 07:15 AM
What is the best line for drop shotting also what hook is best?

I have been having break offs where I tie the hook on with a palomar knot.

Any advice?

Fred

Rodney
August 9th, 2004, 07:27 AM
f.blair wrote:

> What is the best line for drop shotting also what hook is best?

WEll I'm a just a
wee bit predigest :-)

http://ezknot.com/SUHooks.html

>
> I have been having break offs where I tie the hook on with a palomar knot.

This has never been a problem with this new hook


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Rodney
August 9th, 2004, 07:27 AM
f.blair wrote:

> What is the best line for drop shotting also what hook is best?

WEll I'm a just a
wee bit predigest :-)

http://ezknot.com/SUHooks.html

>
> I have been having break offs where I tie the hook on with a palomar knot.

This has never been a problem with this new hook


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Calif Bill
August 9th, 2004, 07:46 AM
I bet if he ties on your hook with the line he is using, it will break off
also. Sounds like crap line. Either old, or bad batch. I dropshot a lot
with a 6# line and a spinning rod. No brake offs. I use mostly Trilene, or
P-line in mono.
Bill



"Rodney" .> wrote in message
...
> f.blair wrote:
>
> > What is the best line for drop shotting also what hook is best?
>
> WEll I'm a just a
> wee bit predigest :-)
>
> http://ezknot.com/SUHooks.html
>
> >
> > I have been having break offs where I tie the hook on with a palomar
knot.
>
> This has never been a problem with this new hook
>
>
> --
> Rodney Long,
> Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
> Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
> Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
> and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com
>

Calif Bill
August 9th, 2004, 07:46 AM
I bet if he ties on your hook with the line he is using, it will break off
also. Sounds like crap line. Either old, or bad batch. I dropshot a lot
with a 6# line and a spinning rod. No brake offs. I use mostly Trilene, or
P-line in mono.
Bill



"Rodney" .> wrote in message
...
> f.blair wrote:
>
> > What is the best line for drop shotting also what hook is best?
>
> WEll I'm a just a
> wee bit predigest :-)
>
> http://ezknot.com/SUHooks.html
>
> >
> > I have been having break offs where I tie the hook on with a palomar
knot.
>
> This has never been a problem with this new hook
>
>
> --
> Rodney Long,
> Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
> Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
> Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
> and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com
>

RichZ
August 9th, 2004, 12:34 PM
F.blair wrote:

> What is the best line for drop shotting

If we're talking standard drop shotting (light line, small hooks, small
worms) I prefer 6lb yozuri hybrid or triple fish fluorocarbon. BUT any
quality 4 to 8 pound mono will work. This weekend, I needed to respool my
backup dropshot rod and found that I was out of 'the good stuff'. I ended up
putting on 6lb Trilen XL that's been in my tackle closet for probably 2
seasons. Never lost a fish on it.


> also what hook is best?
>

For my money, a #2 Gamakatsu drop shot/split shot hook, nose hooked in the
bait.

> I have been having break offs where I tie the hook on with a palomar knot.
>
Standard advice. wet the line before cinching the knot, make sure not to
twist the loop before you pass the hook through it, make sure the loop comes
completely over the eye and doesn't get caught in the notch where the end of
the hook wire meets the shank, etc.




RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

go-bassn
August 9th, 2004, 03:45 PM
The guy's asking about a line, not a hook. Any hook will break off if the
line's no good. Same old Rodney...

Fred, I love 6-8# green Stren or 8-10# Seaguar fleurocarbon for
dropshotting.

Warren

"Rodney" > wrote in message
...
> f.blair wrote:
>
> > What is the best line for drop shotting also what hook is best?
>
> WEll I'm a just a
> wee bit predigest :-)
>
> http://ezknot.com/SUHooks.html
>
> >
> > I have been having break offs where I tie the hook on with a palomar
knot.
>
> This has never been a problem with this new hook
>
>
> --
> Rodney Long,
> Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
> Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
> Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
> and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com
>

go-bassn
August 9th, 2004, 03:45 PM
The guy's asking about a line, not a hook. Any hook will break off if the
line's no good. Same old Rodney...

Fred, I love 6-8# green Stren or 8-10# Seaguar fleurocarbon for
dropshotting.

Warren

"Rodney" > wrote in message
...
> f.blair wrote:
>
> > What is the best line for drop shotting also what hook is best?
>
> WEll I'm a just a
> wee bit predigest :-)
>
> http://ezknot.com/SUHooks.html
>
> >
> > I have been having break offs where I tie the hook on with a palomar
knot.
>
> This has never been a problem with this new hook
>
>
> --
> Rodney Long,
> Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
> Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
> Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
> and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com
>

Rodney
August 10th, 2004, 02:38 AM
go-bassn wrote:

> The guy's asking about a line, not a hook. Any hook will break off if the
> line's no good. Same old Rodney...

Same old Warren

read below because you didn't read it to start with

Do I need to circle the best hook question

How about you staying off my case ?
>
> Fred, I love 6-8# green Stren or 8-10# Seaguar fleurocarbon for
> dropshotting.
>
> Warren
>
> "Rodney" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>f.blair wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What is the best line for drop shotting also what hook is best?


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Rodney
August 10th, 2004, 02:38 AM
go-bassn wrote:

> The guy's asking about a line, not a hook. Any hook will break off if the
> line's no good. Same old Rodney...

Same old Warren

read below because you didn't read it to start with

Do I need to circle the best hook question

How about you staying off my case ?
>
> Fred, I love 6-8# green Stren or 8-10# Seaguar fleurocarbon for
> dropshotting.
>
> Warren
>
> "Rodney" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>f.blair wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What is the best line for drop shotting also what hook is best?


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Rodney
August 10th, 2004, 02:38 AM
go-bassn wrote:

> The guy's asking about a line, not a hook. Any hook will break off if the
> line's no good. Same old Rodney...

Same old Warren

read below because you didn't read it to start with

Do I need to circle the best hook question

How about you staying off my case ?
>
> Fred, I love 6-8# green Stren or 8-10# Seaguar fleurocarbon for
> dropshotting.
>
> Warren
>
> "Rodney" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>f.blair wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What is the best line for drop shotting also what hook is best?


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

go-bassn
August 10th, 2004, 04:51 AM
I think I've had a right to stay on your case since the day you threatened
me legally.

Remember that?

That's no way to make friends genious.

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"Rodney" .> wrote in message
...
> go-bassn wrote:
>
> > The guy's asking about a line, not a hook. Any hook will break off if
the
> > line's no good. Same old Rodney...
>
> Same old Warren
>
> read below because you didn't read it to start with
>
> Do I need to circle the best hook question
>
> How about you staying off my case ?
> >
> > Fred, I love 6-8# green Stren or 8-10# Seaguar fleurocarbon for
> > dropshotting.
> >
> > Warren
> >
> > "Rodney" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>f.blair wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What is the best line for drop shotting also what hook is best?
>
>
> --
> Rodney Long,
> Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
> Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
> Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
> and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com
>

go-bassn
August 10th, 2004, 04:51 AM
I think I've had a right to stay on your case since the day you threatened
me legally.

Remember that?

That's no way to make friends genious.

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"Rodney" .> wrote in message
...
> go-bassn wrote:
>
> > The guy's asking about a line, not a hook. Any hook will break off if
the
> > line's no good. Same old Rodney...
>
> Same old Warren
>
> read below because you didn't read it to start with
>
> Do I need to circle the best hook question
>
> How about you staying off my case ?
> >
> > Fred, I love 6-8# green Stren or 8-10# Seaguar fleurocarbon for
> > dropshotting.
> >
> > Warren
> >
> > "Rodney" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>f.blair wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What is the best line for drop shotting also what hook is best?
>
>
> --
> Rodney Long,
> Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
> Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
> Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
> and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com
>

SimRacer
August 12th, 2004, 09:36 PM
"RichZ" > wrote in message
...
<SNIP>
>
> Standard advice. wet the line before cinching the knot, make sure not to
> twist the loop before you pass the hook through it, make sure the loop
comes
> completely over the eye and doesn't get caught in the notch where the end
of
> the hook wire meets the shank, etc.
>
>

I find that last little tidbit to be great advice Rich. When I moved into
superlines and discovered and started using the Palomar, I broke off a
couple of hooks due to that very thing, the line (loop) got hung in the
notch of the hook eye, I didn't notice it, and it will fray/nick and
everntually break off right at that point.

Needless to say, my *very next* pair of polarized shades were also
prescription shades, so I could better see that my knot was in order prior
to using it. Oh, and very definitely lube the line/knot prior to cinching it
down. Luckily, most of today's lines are relatively taste free and a little
bit o spit works just fine for me.

SimRacer
August 12th, 2004, 09:36 PM
"RichZ" > wrote in message
...
<SNIP>
>
> Standard advice. wet the line before cinching the knot, make sure not to
> twist the loop before you pass the hook through it, make sure the loop
comes
> completely over the eye and doesn't get caught in the notch where the end
of
> the hook wire meets the shank, etc.
>
>

I find that last little tidbit to be great advice Rich. When I moved into
superlines and discovered and started using the Palomar, I broke off a
couple of hooks due to that very thing, the line (loop) got hung in the
notch of the hook eye, I didn't notice it, and it will fray/nick and
everntually break off right at that point.

Needless to say, my *very next* pair of polarized shades were also
prescription shades, so I could better see that my knot was in order prior
to using it. Oh, and very definitely lube the line/knot prior to cinching it
down. Luckily, most of today's lines are relatively taste free and a little
bit o spit works just fine for me.

Rodney
August 13th, 2004, 12:22 AM
SimRacer wrote:


make sure the loop
>
> comes
>
>>completely over the eye and doesn't get caught in the notch where the end
>
> of
>
>>the hook wire meets the shank, etc.
>>
>>
>
>
> I find that last little tidbit to be great advice Rich. When I moved into
> superlines and discovered and started using the Palomar, I broke off a
> couple of hooks due to that very thing, the line (loop) got hung in the
> notch of the hook eye, I didn't notice it, and it will fray/nick and
> everntually break off right at that point.

That's part of the problem I fixed with the new hook,, no eye notch
(where wire is bent into the other side) to cut the line

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Rodney
August 13th, 2004, 12:22 AM
SimRacer wrote:


make sure the loop
>
> comes
>
>>completely over the eye and doesn't get caught in the notch where the end
>
> of
>
>>the hook wire meets the shank, etc.
>>
>>
>
>
> I find that last little tidbit to be great advice Rich. When I moved into
> superlines and discovered and started using the Palomar, I broke off a
> couple of hooks due to that very thing, the line (loop) got hung in the
> notch of the hook eye, I didn't notice it, and it will fray/nick and
> everntually break off right at that point.

That's part of the problem I fixed with the new hook,, no eye notch
(where wire is bent into the other side) to cut the line

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Richard Berke
August 13th, 2004, 03:53 PM
I hear ya on the prescription sunglasses. Last year I had to start
bifocals, and wasn't sure how I'd like 'em. I only got my indoor
clear pair with that type of lens. My polarized prescription
sunglasses are still just for distance, so I have trouble with retying
outside. Oh, well... next pair will be bifocals for me, too.

Richard Berke
Columbia, MD

"SimRacer" > wrote in message >...
> "RichZ" > wrote in message
> ...
> <SNIP>
> >
> > Standard advice. wet the line before cinching the knot, make sure not to
> > twist the loop before you pass the hook through it, make sure the loop
> comes
> > completely over the eye and doesn't get caught in the notch where the end
> of
> > the hook wire meets the shank, etc.
> >
> >
>
> I find that last little tidbit to be great advice Rich. When I moved into
> superlines and discovered and started using the Palomar, I broke off a
> couple of hooks due to that very thing, the line (loop) got hung in the
> notch of the hook eye, I didn't notice it, and it will fray/nick and
> everntually break off right at that point.
>
> Needless to say, my *very next* pair of polarized shades were also
> prescription shades, so I could better see that my knot was in order prior
> to using it. Oh, and very definitely lube the line/knot prior to cinching it
> down. Luckily, most of today's lines are relatively taste free and a little
> bit o spit works just fine for me.

Richard Berke
August 13th, 2004, 03:53 PM
I hear ya on the prescription sunglasses. Last year I had to start
bifocals, and wasn't sure how I'd like 'em. I only got my indoor
clear pair with that type of lens. My polarized prescription
sunglasses are still just for distance, so I have trouble with retying
outside. Oh, well... next pair will be bifocals for me, too.

Richard Berke
Columbia, MD

"SimRacer" > wrote in message >...
> "RichZ" > wrote in message
> ...
> <SNIP>
> >
> > Standard advice. wet the line before cinching the knot, make sure not to
> > twist the loop before you pass the hook through it, make sure the loop
> comes
> > completely over the eye and doesn't get caught in the notch where the end
> of
> > the hook wire meets the shank, etc.
> >
> >
>
> I find that last little tidbit to be great advice Rich. When I moved into
> superlines and discovered and started using the Palomar, I broke off a
> couple of hooks due to that very thing, the line (loop) got hung in the
> notch of the hook eye, I didn't notice it, and it will fray/nick and
> everntually break off right at that point.
>
> Needless to say, my *very next* pair of polarized shades were also
> prescription shades, so I could better see that my knot was in order prior
> to using it. Oh, and very definitely lube the line/knot prior to cinching it
> down. Luckily, most of today's lines are relatively taste free and a little
> bit o spit works just fine for me.

RGarri7470
August 13th, 2004, 03:57 PM
>I hear ya on the prescription sunglasses.

I have had prescription bifocal sunglasses for several years - expensive, but
worth it.
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

RGarri7470
August 13th, 2004, 03:57 PM
>I hear ya on the prescription sunglasses.

I have had prescription bifocal sunglasses for several years - expensive, but
worth it.
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

SimRacer
August 13th, 2004, 04:24 PM
"Rodney" .> wrote in message
...
> SimRacer wrote:
>
>
> make sure the loop
> >
> > comes
> >
> >>completely over the eye and doesn't get caught in the notch where the
end
> >
> > of
> >
> >>the hook wire meets the shank, etc.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I find that last little tidbit to be great advice Rich. When I moved
into
> > superlines and discovered and started using the Palomar, I broke off a
> > couple of hooks due to that very thing, the line (loop) got hung in the
> > notch of the hook eye, I didn't notice it, and it will fray/nick and
> > everntually break off right at that point.
>
> That's part of the problem I fixed with the new hook,, no eye notch
> (where wire is bent into the other side) to cut the line

That certainly sounds like a good design considering the amount of superline
users out there, and the fact that most all the superlines recommend the
Palomar. I really like the knot personally, easy to tie and appears to hold
up quite well for me.

SimRacer
August 13th, 2004, 04:24 PM
"Rodney" .> wrote in message
...
> SimRacer wrote:
>
>
> make sure the loop
> >
> > comes
> >
> >>completely over the eye and doesn't get caught in the notch where the
end
> >
> > of
> >
> >>the hook wire meets the shank, etc.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I find that last little tidbit to be great advice Rich. When I moved
into
> > superlines and discovered and started using the Palomar, I broke off a
> > couple of hooks due to that very thing, the line (loop) got hung in the
> > notch of the hook eye, I didn't notice it, and it will fray/nick and
> > everntually break off right at that point.
>
> That's part of the problem I fixed with the new hook,, no eye notch
> (where wire is bent into the other side) to cut the line

That certainly sounds like a good design considering the amount of superline
users out there, and the fact that most all the superlines recommend the
Palomar. I really like the knot personally, easy to tie and appears to hold
up quite well for me.

RichZ
August 13th, 2004, 11:21 PM
Ditto.


RichZ©
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