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Wolfgang December 19th, 2005 01:36 AM

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"Mike Connor" wrote in message
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...I wonder why there are no other homosexual animals?...


There are. Many. "Dr. Tatiana's Sex Advice to All Creation", by Olivia
Judson, is a marvelous, entertaining, and painless introduction to the
bewildering (and not a little beautiful) world of sexuality.

Wolfgang



Stan Gula December 19th, 2005 01:36 AM

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Mike Connor wrote:
I wonder why there are no other homosexual animals?


Maybe this article about our closest relatives would be enlightening:
http://songweaver.com/info/bonobos.html
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Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps



Wolfgang December 19th, 2005 01:49 AM

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"Thomas Littleton" wrote in message
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...orientation in any species is not really well understood, or even
much studied....


There's enough literature to keep a body busy for a lifetime or two......and
it's growing faster than advances in gerontology.

Good luck! :)

Wolfgang



Thomas Littleton December 19th, 2005 02:32 AM

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"Thomas Littleton" wrote in message
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...orientation in any species is not really well understood, or even
much studied....


There's enough literature to keep a body busy for a lifetime or

two......and
it's growing faster than advances in gerontology.

Good luck! :)

Wolfgang



I have no doubt you are right, at this stage, but the same could be said,
and in many cases by an order of magnitude more, for a host of topics in
reproductive biology. Scientific literature is in no short supply, although
some papers I have encountered were slow enough to seemingly take a lifetime
to slog through by themselves.g
Tom



rw December 19th, 2005 02:48 AM

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Mike Connor wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:

Mike Connor wrote:

snip By the way, it might be politically correct to say "Not that
there is anything wrong with being gay", but there is you know, it
is an unnatural perversity, simultaneously a symptom and a result of
a sick and corrupt society. ...


Holy ****, Mike. I'd have never imagined you were so
ridiculously uninformed. You sound like one of our TV
preachers.



Oh I am not uninformed at all.



Yes, you certainly are. There is nothing unnatural or perverse
about homosexuality and homosexuality has nothing whatsoever
to do with a sick and corrupt society. Those who are born gay
have no more choice over what makes them horny than they have
over their hair color or eye color.


Aren't you the same guy who used to try (unsuccessfully) to insult me by
calling me gay?

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw December 19th, 2005 02:56 AM

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Mike Connor wrote:

I wonder why there are no other homosexual animals?


There are many examples of homosexuality in non-human animals -- most
prominently bonobos. See, for example,

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...gayanimal.html

I'm telling you, though, that this gay marriage thing is a serious
threat to traditional man/woman marriage. Just think about it. If gay
marriage is legal the gays will book all the banquet halls, and then
we'll be in a real fix.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Ken Fortenberry December 19th, 2005 02:59 AM

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rw wrote:
Aren't you the same guy who used to try (unsuccessfully) to insult me by
calling me gay?


Nope, I'm the guy who pointed out that you were an
effeminate putz pretending to be a wild west he-man.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Wolfgang December 19th, 2005 03:06 AM

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"Thomas Littleton" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"Thomas Littleton" wrote in message
news:D2opf.7665$CL.7481@trnddc04...

...orientation in any species is not really well understood, or even
much studied....


There's enough literature to keep a body busy for a lifetime or

two......and
it's growing faster than advances in gerontology.

Good luck! :)

Wolfgang



I have no doubt you are right, at this stage, but the same could be said,
and in many cases by an order of magnitude more, for a host of topics in
reproductive biology. Scientific literature is in no short supply,
although
some papers I have encountered were slow enough to seemingly take a
lifetime
to slog through by themselves.g


Sometime within the last year I got a proof of a paper, just after it had
been accepted for publication, that I coauthored while in transplant
surgery......a department I left over four years ago. :)

There are many things that are much studied.....and well understood......and
a complete mystery to the general public. The vast majority of them are
also complete mysteries to most specialists in allied fields. In our lab we
do journal club in lieu of the regularly scheduled lab meeting on the third
Tuesday of each month. The sole purpose of this exercise is for us to help
one another keep abreast of what's new and/or important in our own narrow
and closely related areas of research. We have five principle investigators
(an amalgam of MDs, PhDs, and MD/PhDs) six fulltime techs, usually one
resident on a six month rotation, and often a med-student and/or an
undergrad doing an internship......say, something like twelve or so people
altogether, on average. It is impossible for us to keep up on everything
published in our specialty.

Wolfgang



David Snedeker December 19th, 2005 03:29 AM

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"Thomas Littleton" wrote in message
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This is so typical of the reading-challenged. Here you quote me . . .
"relatives".... Maybe you could identify the post where this word you are
quoting was used by me? Otherwise I might start making up quotes for you.

I quoted your original post in my first response. You stated clearly that
Dean and his "relatives" gave money to various groups. You have and had no
knowledge of who he gives money to.


You haven't done the reading yet? Have you?

I stand by the fact that nitwits like you give liberals a bad name. BTW, I
am 50 years old, read 6 newspapers a day, and am perfectly capable of

seeing
the wrongs going on, and have, at times railed against them here.


You may be a liberal, but I most certainly am not.

You read 6 papers a day and you played out your tin hat and conspiracies
riff? You can't have it both ways. If you read the papers you know that the
non-directly Dean stuff I said is not from the conspiracy theory vat, so you
were just saying that stuff to confuse things. I prefer to believe you were
at least sincere and speaking in defense of an individual, but ignorant of
the rest.

As to your other stuff . . .

1. You may not have heard but Iraq is already an immediate disaster. We
gave it a go, "Helped" them as much as we could and now its time to come
home. If you want to go over there and contribute your liberal skills maybe
Haliburton can find a place for you.

Here is a lesson: You do not build a ground Army for combat, then **** them
away in a long drawn out police action. Airforce folks can bomb from afar
over and over with little opposition and little loss of morale. Navy folk
can stand off, blast away and sleep clean and warm every nite. But the Army,
Marines and some of the CIA fight their war steeped in the sweat of fear,
dirt, puke, and burnt flesh. Right now we are wasting our most precious
defense resource pinned down in an desert ********. We did our share and
now its time for the Iraqis to earn their own democracy.

2)balance the budget, let alone reduce the debt.


You are kidding right? Never heard of living within ones means? If you can't
pay for it don't buy it? That means if you spend it you must tax for it, or
you eventually go broke. Clue: He was President before Bush and his last
name started with a "C" and he liked poontang and cigars.

Dave
Jeez, which part of ******** don't they understand



David Snedeker December 19th, 2005 03:44 AM

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Mike Connor wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:



Not to pull a Tom but. . .

Being one of the instigators of this turn in the thread, let me say don't
read too much into his comment. Not that I agree with him but remember that
lots of us older citizens are less evolved on some of these issues than folk
just a few annum younger. So we tend to stumble into politically incorrect
boxes. Doesn't mean we are totally retrograde (except maybe Frank). It might
mean simply that we don't look good in a bra and panties.

Dave




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