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Wolfgang April 5th, 2004 12:28 AM

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"Willi" wrote in message
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The "stupid" was directed at Wolfgang....


Well, gosh, that's a bit harsh.

Wolfgang
this diplomacy business ain't all it's cracked up to be. :(



Wolfgang April 5th, 2004 12:34 AM

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"Bob Weinberger" wrote in message
...

....I'll bet all of Wolfie's SNNs that you will be hard put to find
anyone who has had any exposure to the word at all that does not indicate
that the word has connotations of something undesireable.


I'll thank you not to play fast and loose with my shiny new nickels. You
have just virtually guaranteed the existence in ROFF of dozens to whom the
notion of culling having anything to do with undesirables has never
occurred.

Wolfgang
remember when it came time to choose up sides for a baseball game and the
skinny little kid with the glasses jumped up and down and pleaded "cull me!
cull me!". :)



Bob Weinberger April 5th, 2004 12:41 AM

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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You DO know that you aren't going to win this one, right, Bob? I mean,

when
dealing with people who believe that a dictionary is not only an adequate
substitute for, but actually preferable to understanding words, you CAN'T
win.

Wolfgang
still, it IS kinda fun to watch someone else beat them up. :)


Yeah, I know, but as you are well aware, the exercise is sometimes mildly
amusing. But this has become tedious and lost much of its amusement value,
so I think I'll go fishing tomorrow and Tue. Now that I have a choice, I
rarely fish on the weekends any more - to avoid the crowds. .

I'll post a TR when I get back. I won't be doing any "culling" as this
particular fishery is managed for trophy Browns - not allowed to keep any
Browns - and there are so few Rainbows that I don't keep any that I catch,
in hopes that they will make a comeback.


--
Bob Weinberger
La, Grande, OR

place a dot between bobs and stuff and remove invalid to send email



Wolfgang April 5th, 2004 12:44 AM

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"Willi" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:



Personally, I think that
people that have the tendency to label other people as stupid, tend to
have some sort of self esteem issues.



No you don't. Why do you make this **** up?


Maybe cause I'm stupid???


Hm......nope, that ain't it. Try again.

Wolfgang



Bob Weinberger April 5th, 2004 12:50 AM

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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I'll thank you not to play fast and loose with my shiny new nickels. You
have just virtually guaranteed the existence in ROFF of dozens to whom the
notion of culling having anything to do with undesirables has never
occurred.


Why do you think I bet YOUR shiny new nickles? :)

Wolfgang
remember when it came time to choose up sides for a baseball game and the
skinny little kid with the glasses jumped up and down and pleaded "cull

me!
cull me!". :)


Remember? I was that kid. :(


--
Bob Weinberger
La, Grande, OR

place a dot between bobs and stuff and remove invalid to send email



rw April 5th, 2004 12:54 AM

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Bob Weinberger wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
hlink.net...

Bob Weinberger wrote:



Baloney. The American Heritage Dictionary gives the definition of "to
cull" as:

VERB:
1. To pick out from others; select.
2. To gather; collect.
3. To remove rejected members or parts from (a herd, for example).

Only in the third alternative is there any suggestion of removing
undesireables -- hardly the "defining" element.



Oh, so if T-Bone, Charlie, or Willi were to declare that you are a cull,
after picking you out from others, using a process which by remarkable
coincidence is called culling, you would be just as likely to consider
their evaluation to be complimentary or neutral as you would be to consider
it derogatory. ;)


When confronted with a question about the meaning of a word, I have a
couple of choices. I can look up the word in a well respected
dictionary, or I can ask you or Wolfgang.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Mike Connor April 5th, 2004 01:05 AM

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"Wolfgang" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...

In this day and age, failure to attain
literacy is stupid.

Wolfgang


Quite often the one is a direct consequence of the other, and quite
independent of either, mediocrity still rules.

TL
MC




Bob Weinberger April 5th, 2004 01:28 AM

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"rw" wrote in message
link.net...

When confronted with a question about the meaning of a word, I have a
couple of choices. I can look up the word in a well respected
dictionary, or I can ask you or Wolfgang.


Well I feel sorry for you if you truly believe that those are your only
choices to acquire understanding of the meaning of a word.


--
Bob Weinberger
La, Grande, OR

place a dot between bobs and stuff and remove invalid to send email



rw April 5th, 2004 01:59 AM

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Bob Weinberger wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
link.net...


When confronted with a question about the meaning of a word, I have a
couple of choices. I can look up the word in a well respected
dictionary, or I can ask you or Wolfgang.



Well I feel sorry for you if you truly believe that those are your only
choices to acquire understanding of the meaning of a word.


But of the two, where should I put my money?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw April 5th, 2004 02:28 AM

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rw wrote:
Bob Weinberger wrote:

"rw" wrote in message
link.net...


When confronted with a question about the meaning of a word, I have a
couple of choices. I can look up the word in a well respected
dictionary, or I can ask you or Wolfgang.




Well I feel sorry for you if you truly believe that those are your only
choices to acquire understanding of the meaning of a word.



But of the two, where should I put my money?


After further reflection, I realize that you are absolutely right. I do
have other choices besides consulting a dictionary, or you, or Wolfgang.
I could, for example, ask Willi or Charlie. :-)

In fact, when I think about it, the array of choices is overwhelmingly
vast. I could poll every English speaker on the face of the earth. Maybe
that's why they invented dictionaries. :-)

I could investigate the etymology of the verb "to cull" -- it's closely
related to the verb "to collect."

I'm not wedded to dictionary definitions. Many words in common usage
have meanings that evade the best attempts of lexicographers to pin them
down. Not only that, but the meanings of some words change faster than
new editions can keep up.

If someone were to use a word in a way that expanded or stretched its
dictionary definition, I wouldn't be bothered (within limits). Remember
the "meniscus" thread? (I may have been guilty recently when I objected
to Particle Salad saying he was "almost" a purist, or words to that
effect, but I was just trying to needle him a little. I wasn't serious.)

However, when someone insists that his definition is the ONLY ACCEPTABLE
usage, like you have done, and when that idiosyncratic definition stands
in contradiction to the dictionary definition, and in contradiction to
the opinions of other English speakers (who admittedly may not have
reached the highly refined, intelligent literacy of, for example,
Wolfgang), I object. Baloney.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


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