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rw September 22nd, 2009 03:07 AM

ot health care
 
Lazarus Cooke wrote:
In article 2009092117253637709-dplacourse@aolcom, David LaCourse
wrote:


We have the best medical care in the world.



Well, you believe it. I can't imagine why.

Newborn babies in the USA are more than twice as likely to die early
as are babies born in Sweden; they're more likely to die than are
babies born in Cuba.

Is that something you're proud of?


Dave is WAY past the point where he has to worry about newborn babies.
**** 'em.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Giles September 22nd, 2009 03:41 AM

ot health care
 
On Sep 21, 8:38*pm, Tim Lysyk wrote:
David LaCourse wrote:
On 2009-09-21 20:45:42 -0400, Lazarus Cooke
said:


In article 2009092117253637709-dplacourse@aolcom, David LaCourse
wrote:


We have the best medical care in the world.


Well, you believe it. I can't imagine why.


Newborn babies in the USA are more than twice as likely to die early
as are babies born in Sweden; they're more likely to die than are
babies born in *Cuba.


Is that something you're proud of?


Tim, athere is a reason for that and it is NOT poor health care. *People
from all over the world rush to our teaching hospitals for cures. *My
cancer cure would not have succeeded in Canada according to men than I
have coresponded with. *One, the technology was not there, and Two, the
wait would have had the cancer spread. *The baby issue can be a whole
bunch of things, including the freedom of the women to NOT have
pre-natal care, or quite possibly her being an addict of drugs or
alcohol. *There is also the technology side to consider; *there is a
great effort today to save babies that would otherwise be still born or
naturally aborted before term. *There are many issues to consider. *And,
if you think my cancer could have been cured in Cuba I want what you a
smokin'.


I used to meet people like this in the Communist Bloc, before the wall
went down, who honestly believed that their country had the best system
of government *in the world. They didn't want to listen to facts, or
arguments that disagreed with what they'd been told.


Yeah, I've met the same kinds too, most from Canada.


They'd been told they had the best in the world, and they were going to
believe anything they were told to believe.


Yeah, something similar to the brain washed Habitats that I know and
love. *d;o)


Russia did experiment and finally came up with the laser surgery that
cured my legally blind daughter. *She doesn't even were glasses today,
and couldn't see without her coke-bottom glasses during her childhood
and teen years. *Thank you, Russia.


We are all great, Lazarus. *But I will stay with the U.S. technology. *
It's saved my life twice, thankyouverymuch.


Lazarus


Dave


Dave....Your reply should have been addressed to Lazarus, not me.


Your correction is entirely understandable, Tim, but in truth it
hardly matters what direction abject idiocy is ostensibly aimed
in.....the spatter hits everyone.

g.

Giles September 22nd, 2009 03:43 AM

ot health care
 
On Sep 21, 3:49*pm, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2009-09-20 20:23:14 -0400, Giles said:





On Sep 20, 8:13*am, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2009-09-19 22:21:39 -0400, Tim Lysyk said:


David LaCourse wrote:
On 2009-09-19 16:30:19 -0400, Ken Fortenberry
said:


Tort reform is a Republican red herring.


Tort reform works in Canada and the UK. *It will never work here
because trial lawyers give to much money to the president and congress

.


And yes, he is smarmy.


I think Ken may have mentioned that in a single payer system, there is
a lot less that has to be invested in administrative costs to deal with
collecting from and fighting with insurance companies.


Ah, yes. *Yet another bureaucracy. *Things do not work the same here

as
in Canada, Tim. *Give government a foot in the door and there will soon
be a bureacracy so big, it would not be efficient. *The u.s. gov has
made a mess of everything it touches, including SS, Medicare, Medicaid,
VA care, Amtrac. *Giving them 1/6 of the u.s. economy would be inviting
disaster.


Health care for everyone would be the correct thing to do, but do not
allow the feds to run it. *There has to be a better way. *Correct wha

t
is wrong instead of redistrubing the available resources. * If Obama
takes from one program (say, Medicare) to give to those that have no
care, that is redistribution of wealth, and it is exactly what he would
like to do. *Leave capitalism alone. *It works. *Communism does not

*-
even the nations practicing it now rely on capitalism. *Why? *Beause

it
works. *Fix what is wrong and don't throw out the baby with the wash
water. *Our health care is the best in the world. *Expensive, yes, bu

t
the best. *Surely we can find a better way than turning over 1/6 of our
economy to a system that has a history of ineffeciancy.


Going fishing. *Late already.


Dave


You should listen to davie, Tim. *After all, he's been sucking on the
government tit for a lifetime.....actually, more than one, depending
on how you count. * * * :)


g.


Yeah! *Ain't it great, Wolfgang? *Twenty years in the military working
for a stipend, then another stipend when I retired, then SS at age 62.5
(yet another stipend). *And now Medicare. *Sure am glad I worked hard
after my military career and have that nice civilian retirement from
GTE. *What's that - three incomes. *Well, actually one income from the
GTE career and $30,000 stipend from the Guvverment. *Niiiiiiice. *It
does allow for some great fishing in Alaska, Russia, Labrador, Chile,
Tiera del Fuego, the Bahamas, Idaho, Montana, etc. *Why, without the
little stipend I get from my government, I'd only be able to fish the
Rapid for 6 or 7 weeks a year. *Hey, I'm here now for yet another week.
*Weather is cool, water is cold, fish are jumpin', cabin is warm with a
fire in the stove.

BLTs for lunch today after I fished the morning landing several nice
salmon and brookies. *Took a well deserved nap and now I'm sitting on
the porch overlooking the lake. *It's been calm all day, but now a
slight breeze has built up and put some whitecaps on the lake. *
Absolutely beautiful day for fishing or just hangin' around answering
fools on the internet.

Baked stuffed chicken breasts (stuffed with rice and Italian sausage)
for dinner. *There'll be birthday cake for Joanne for desert, and lots
of champagne. *Life is great. *Be sure to not get fired, Wolfgang. *I
need your tax money so that I can have these little luxuries in life. *
Don't be a good Democrat like your hero Charlie Rangel. *Pay those
taxes. man.

TIA

Davey
(Hey, did I tell ya about the new S6 I'm buying. *Gonna keep the RS6
for track days at NH International. *Next report from the Sechelles in
February)


Imbecile.

Pig.

g.

[email protected] September 22nd, 2009 02:26 PM

ot health care
 
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:45:42 +0100, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

In article 2009092117253637709-dplacourse@aolcom, David LaCourse
wrote:

We have the best medical care in the world.


Well, you believe it. I can't imagine why.

Newborn babies in the USA are more than twice as likely to die early
as are babies born in Sweden; they're more likely to die than are
babies born in Cuba.


Maybe they are being misdiagnosed...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...diagnosed.html

HTH,
R

~^ beancounter ~^ September 22nd, 2009 05:15 PM

ot health care
 
the moon is made of green cheese......





Newborn babies in the USA are more than twice as likely to die early
as are babies born in Sweden; they're more likely to die than are
babies born in Cuba.


David LaCourse September 22nd, 2009 10:30 PM

ot health care
 
On 2009-09-21 21:38:03 -0400, Tim Lysyk said:

David LaCourse wrote:
On 2009-09-21 20:45:42 -0400, Lazarus Cooke
said:

In article 2009092117253637709-dplacourse@aolcom, David LaCourse
wrote:

We have the best medical care in the world.

Well, you believe it. I can't imagine why.

Newborn babies in the USA are more than twice as likely to die early
as are babies born in Sweden; they're more likely to die than are
babies born in Cuba.

Is that something you're proud of?


Tim, athere is a reason for that and it is NOT poor health care.
People from all over the world rush to our teaching hospitals for
cures. My cancer cure would not have succeeded in Canada according to
men than I have coresponded with. One, the technology was not there,
and Two, the wait would have had the cancer spread. The baby issue can
be a whole bunch of things, including the freedom of the women to NOT
have pre-natal care, or quite possibly her being an addict of drugs or
alcohol. There is also the technology side to consider; there is a
great effort today to save babies that would otherwise be still born or
naturally aborted before term. There are many issues to consider.
And, if you think my cancer could have been cured in Cuba I want what
you a smokin'.

I used to meet people like this in the Communist Bloc, before the wall
went down, who honestly believed that their country had the best system
of government in the world. They didn't want to listen to facts, or
arguments that disagreed with what they'd been told.


Yeah, I've met the same kinds too, most from Canada.

They'd been told they had the best in the world, and they were going to
believe anything they were told to believe.


Yeah, something similar to the brain washed Habitats that I know and
love. d;o)

Russia did experiment and finally came up with the laser surgery that
cured my legally blind daughter. She doesn't even were glasses today,
and couldn't see without her coke-bottom glasses during her childhood
and teen years. Thank you, Russia.

We are all great, Lazarus. But I will stay with the U.S. technology.
It's saved my life twice, thankyouverymuch.

Lazarus


Dave


Dave....Your reply should have been addressed to Lazarus, not me.


Tim


It was addressed to Lazarus. See my last sentence. Sorry if I got
your name in by mistake at the beginning.

Dave





David LaCourse September 22nd, 2009 10:32 PM

ot health care
 
On 2009-09-21 22:43:08 -0400, Giles said:

On Sep 21, 3:49*pm, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2009-09-20 20:23:14 -0400, Giles said:





On Sep 20, 8:13*am, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2009-09-19 22:21:39 -0400, Tim Lysyk said:


David LaCourse wrote:
On 2009-09-19 16:30:19 -0400, Ken Fortenberry
said:


Tort reform is a Republican red herring.


Tort reform works in Canada and the UK. *It will never work here
because trial lawyers give to much money to the president and congre

ss
.


And yes, he is smarmy.


I think Ken may have mentioned that in a single payer system, there i

s
a lot less that has to be invested in administrative costs to deal wi

th
collecting from and fighting with insurance companies.


Ah, yes. *Yet another bureaucracy. *Things do not work the same he

re
as
in Canada, Tim. *Give government a foot in the door and there will s

oon
be a bureacracy so big, it would not be efficient. *The u.s. gov has
made a mess of everything it touches, including SS, Medicare, Medicaid

,
VA care, Amtrac. *Giving them 1/6 of the u.s. economy would be invit

ing
disaster.


Health care for everyone would be the correct thing to do, but do not
allow the feds to run it. *There has to be a better way. *Correct

wha
t
is wrong instead of redistrubing the available resources. * If Obama
takes from one program (say, Medicare) to give to those that have no
care, that is redistribution of wealth, and it is exactly what he woul

d
like to do. *Leave capitalism alone. *It works. *Communism does

not
*-
even the nations practicing it now rely on capitalism. *Why? *Beau

se
it
works. *Fix what is wrong and don't throw out the baby with the wash
water. *Our health care is the best in the world. *Expensive, yes,

bu
t
the best. *Surely we can find a better way than turning over 1/6 of

our
economy to a system that has a history of ineffeciancy.


Going fishing. *Late already.


Dave


You should listen to davie, Tim. *After all, he's been sucking on the
government tit for a lifetime.....actually, more than one, depending
on how you count. * * * :)


g.


Yeah! *Ain't it great, Wolfgang? *Twenty years in the military workin

g
for a stipend, then another stipend when I retired, then SS at age 62.5
(yet another stipend). *And now Medicare. *Sure am glad I worked hard
after my military career and have that nice civilian retirement from
GTE. *What's that - three incomes. *Well, actually one income from th

e
GTE career and $30,000 stipend from the Guvverment. *Niiiiiiice. *It
does allow for some great fishing in Alaska, Russia, Labrador, Chile,
Tiera del Fuego, the Bahamas, Idaho, Montana, etc. *Why, without the
little stipend I get from my government, I'd only be able to fish the
Rapid for 6 or 7 weeks a year. *Hey, I'm here now for yet another week.
*Weather is cool, water is cold, fish are jumpin', cabin is warm with a
fire in the stove.

BLTs for lunch today after I fished the morning landing several nice
salmon and brookies. *Took a well deserved nap and now I'm sitting on
the porch overlooking the lake. *It's been calm all day, but now a
slight breeze has built up and put some whitecaps on the lake. *
Absolutely beautiful day for fishing or just hangin' around answering
fools on the internet.

Baked stuffed chicken breasts (stuffed with rice and Italian sausage)
for dinner. *There'll be birthday cake for Joanne for desert, and lots
of champagne. *Life is great. *Be sure to not get fired, Wolfgang.

*I
need your tax money so that I can have these little luxuries in life. *
Don't be a good Democrat like your hero Charlie Rangel. *Pay those
taxes. man.

TIA

Davey
(Hey, did I tell ya about the new S6 I'm buying. *Gonna keep the RS6
for track days at NH International. *Next report from the Sechelles in
February)


Imbecile.

Pig.

g.


Stinky pants.

Funny face.

****stain.

Davey


David LaCourse September 22nd, 2009 10:36 PM

ot health care
 
Forgot to add, Steve. You, Fortenberry, and ****stain don't have to
worry about prostate cancer. You have to have testosterone to have
prostate cancer. No balls. Not prostate cancer.





Ken Fortenberry September 22nd, 2009 10:44 PM

ot health care
 
David LaCourse wrote:
Forgot to add, Steve. You, Fortenberry, and ****stain don't have to
worry about prostate cancer. You have to have testosterone to have
prostate cancer. No balls. Not prostate cancer.


You're a great Republican, Louie. Keep up the good work and ...

Carry on.

--
Ken Fortenberry

rw September 22nd, 2009 10:45 PM

ot health care
 
David LaCourse wrote:
Forgot to add, Steve. You, Fortenberry, and ****stain don't have to
worry about prostate cancer. You have to have testosterone to have
prostate cancer. No balls. Not prostate cancer.


In fact, my PSA spiked up in my last blood test. My doctor is a little
concerned, but she thinks it might have been caused by the prostate exam
she administered. :-) I'm not too worried. Only about 1/3 of the
patients with elevated PSA actually have prostate cancer.

Like you, Dave, I have excellent health care. Unlike you, I'm concerned
about the many people who don't have it, or can't get it, or who are one
paycheck away from losing it, or who have to put up with the obnoxious,
stonewalling tactics of the for-profit insurance companies. I'm also
concerned, as we all should be, about the excessive costs and sub-par
outcomes we have in the good ol' US of A.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


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