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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:16:55 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:

I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. ...

If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

Didn't get skunked and didn't see any deformed fish (there). Maybe what we
thought was the kiddie hole wasn't.
--
Charlie...

Question about loop leaders?
 

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:16:55 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:

I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. ...

If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

Didn't get skunked and didn't see any deformed fish (there). Maybe what we
thought was the kiddie hole wasn't.
--
Charlie...

Question about loop leaders?
 

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:


I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not
sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see
anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. ...


If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).



I'm guessing that's your opinion of the fishing on the San Juan as a
whole. The "Kiddy Hole" is just an exclamation point for the whole
river. I think it's a fun to place to hook some big fish on small flies
and light tackle.

I've been to a number of San Juan Claves and I can't recall anyone from
our group spending any extended periods of time in the Kiddy Hole and
I've NEVER seen anyone from our group "shuffling". People would hit it
on their way out and in (it's the first place next to the parking lot).
I've fished it for rising fish, there have been times when that's the
only rising fish I could find. It's a stupid argument anyway. Who gives
a **** if someone wants to fish the "Kiddy Hole?" or the "Cable Hole" or
any other "Hole."

Virtually all the fish on the San Juan have been caught several times
each season (some of the big ones maybe only hooked). There may be more
scarred up fish in the Kiddy Hole because it get fished so heavily, but
no matter where you fish the Quality Waters on the San Juan some of the
fish you catch are going to be scarred up. That's a fact when fishing
any heavily fished C&R areas. I caught a couple scarred up fish on the
Madison this year, but maybe I was fishing the "Kiddy Hole" without
knowing it.

Willi

Question about loop leaders?
 

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:


I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not
sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see
anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. ...


If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).



I'm guessing that's your opinion of the fishing on the San Juan as a
whole. The "Kiddy Hole" is just an exclamation point for the whole
river. I think it's a fun to place to hook some big fish on small flies
and light tackle.

I've been to a number of San Juan Claves and I can't recall anyone from
our group spending any extended periods of time in the Kiddy Hole and
I've NEVER seen anyone from our group "shuffling". People would hit it
on their way out and in (it's the first place next to the parking lot).
I've fished it for rising fish, there have been times when that's the
only rising fish I could find. It's a stupid argument anyway. Who gives
a **** if someone wants to fish the "Kiddy Hole?" or the "Cable Hole" or
any other "Hole."

Virtually all the fish on the San Juan have been caught several times
each season (some of the big ones maybe only hooked). There may be more
scarred up fish in the Kiddy Hole because it get fished so heavily, but
no matter where you fish the Quality Waters on the San Juan some of the
fish you catch are going to be scarred up. That's a fact when fishing
any heavily fished C&R areas. I caught a couple scarred up fish on the
Madison this year, but maybe I was fishing the "Kiddy Hole" without
knowing it.

Willi

Question about loop leaders?
 

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:


I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not
sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see
anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. ...


If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).



I'm guessing that's your opinion of the fishing on the San Juan as a
whole. The "Kiddy Hole" is just an exclamation point for the whole
river. I think it's a fun to place to hook some big fish on small flies
and light tackle.

I've been to a number of San Juan Claves and I can't recall anyone from
our group spending any extended periods of time in the Kiddy Hole and
I've NEVER seen anyone from our group "shuffling". People would hit it
on their way out and in (it's the first place next to the parking lot).
I've fished it for rising fish, there have been times when that's the
only rising fish I could find. It's a stupid argument anyway. Who gives
a **** if someone wants to fish the "Kiddy Hole?" or the "Cable Hole" or
any other "Hole."

Virtually all the fish on the San Juan have been caught several times
each season (some of the big ones maybe only hooked). There may be more
scarred up fish in the Kiddy Hole because it get fished so heavily, but
no matter where you fish the Quality Waters on the San Juan some of the
fish you catch are going to be scarred up. That's a fact when fishing
any heavily fished C&R areas. I caught a couple scarred up fish on the
Madison this year, but maybe I was fishing the "Kiddy Hole" without
knowing it.

Willi

Question about loop leaders?
 

Willi & Sue wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
... That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).

I'm guessing that's your opinion of the fishing on the San Juan as a
whole. ...

It's true that I'm not much fond of tailwater fishing. It's phoney
baloney on so many levels. But I did enjoy some decent enough dry
fly fishing on the San Juan, some of it standing right next to you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Question about loop leaders?
 

Willi & Sue wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
... That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).

I'm guessing that's your opinion of the fishing on the San Juan as a
whole. ...

It's true that I'm not much fond of tailwater fishing. It's phoney
baloney on so many levels. But I did enjoy some decent enough dry
fly fishing on the San Juan, some of it standing right next to you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Question about loop leaders?
 

Willi & Sue wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
... That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).

I'm guessing that's your opinion of the fishing on the San Juan as a
whole. ...

It's true that I'm not much fond of tailwater fishing. It's phoney
baloney on so many levels. But I did enjoy some decent enough dry
fly fishing on the San Juan, some of it standing right next to you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Question about loop leaders?
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
Charlie Choc wrote:
I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).


Not sure what a "tyro" is. I spose it means rookie or newbie or similar?

I remember that day well. But the place where you showed me how to catch
those fish (and thanks again BTW) was actually one run further across the
river from the KH. Not that it makes a hill of beans one way or the other. I
do remember your spectacular Reid, but I've never mentioned it, I don't
think. As I remember you slipped whilst slogging your way towards me to take
a picture of a fish I had on. Thanks for the try.

No offense, but your definition of fly fishing ain't worth a hill of beans
either.

Danl

Question about loop leaders?
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
Charlie Choc wrote:
I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).


Not sure what a "tyro" is. I spose it means rookie or newbie or similar?

I remember that day well. But the place where you showed me how to catch
those fish (and thanks again BTW) was actually one run further across the
river from the KH. Not that it makes a hill of beans one way or the other. I
do remember your spectacular Reid, but I've never mentioned it, I don't
think. As I remember you slipped whilst slogging your way towards me to take
a picture of a fish I had on. Thanks for the try.

No offense, but your definition of fly fishing ain't worth a hill of beans
either.

Danl