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and have a bunch of stuff in the hopper to support my habit.
You might want to be a bit more discreet about saying things like that in a public forum. Or is that an ad? vince |
Wolfgang wrote:
Meanwhile, I refuse to accept the premise that wholesale hate and contempt are acceptable and even amusing while attempts to call attention to them are reprehensible. That sounds very noble! and your justification makes me feel that I should thank you for protecting us from that "wholesale hate and contempt" that runs rampant on ROFF............. (your statement reminds me of Bush's justifications for the war) but it's NOT true that the majority of your name calling is to "call attention to" "wholesale hate and contempt". You name call on a routine basis - when you're losing an argument, when someone digs at you, when you think it's funny, as a deflection, etc. etc. In response to your last post to me: "Well, you look like a bright young lad." Been a LONG time since anyone called me that! That "bright young lad" **** just sets up a red flag for me. That's how my eighth grade teacher used to start his lectures to me when I got in trouble. "O.k., let's say you live in world where there's......um......bad people......and, like problems and stuff. So, what's the best solution......ignore them.....or whine?" (Never did understand how you and Ken use the term whine on ROFF. I'm whining because I'm "calling attention" to your name calling but you're playing savior by "calling our attention to all the 'wholesale hate and contempt'" on ROFF through this name calling??? Kinda weird to me.) Anyway, there are many other solutions in "real" life (better ones I think) and more than a few on Usenet than what you offer. Your "best solution" - to call these "bad people" the kind of names I used when I was in grammar school - seems like a strange one to me especially coming from someone who sees portrays himself on ROFF as a very literate person. (you could at least be creative instead of juvenile in your name calling) We're never going to see this in even a similar manner. So you will continue your "justified" name calling and I will continue to occasionally confront (or whine at, if you prefer) you for it. Your choice - my choice and neither of us like the others' choice. Unfortunately, for me, your choice is expressed FAR more often. To everyone, The Claves have given me some friends, many new acquaintances, travel to new places, some great and some not so great fishing, beautiful scenery, lots of wildlife viewing and a bunch of good times. Here's a sample of some of what they offered me: http://www.crystalglen.net/Fishing/default.htm (I uploaded about 250 assorted Clave pictures from my collection. Some were taken by me and some I got from others. The quality isn't too good because I had to compress them a bunch to keep under my server limit.) I used to get a taste of all those things through participating in ROFF and that taste is what motivated me to go to my first Clave. ROFF has always been a stew where you had to search around to find the meaty morsels, but for me, there were enough of them and some of them were very tasty. Maybe it's my tastes that have changed but I'm finding the gruel has gotten too watery and far too full of gristle to be palatable. I sincerely miss the old stew. I'm thinking my "best solution", for now, is to take a break from ROFF. Hope you enjoy the pix. I'll be back after I catch a few more fish and just make sure you don't "whine!" Willi |
Willi wrote:
To everyone, The Claves have given me some friends, many new acquaintances, travel to new places, some great and some not so great fishing, beautiful scenery, lots of wildlife viewing and a bunch of good times. Here's a sample of some of what they offered me: http://www.crystalglen.net/Fishing/default.htm (I uploaded about 250 assorted Clave pictures from my collection. Some were taken by me and some I got from others. The quality isn't too good because I had to compress them a bunch to keep under my server limit.) Hope you enjoy the pix. I'll be back after I catch a few more fish and just make sure you don't "whine!" as fine an exhibit of the meaning and essence of this place as ever stated. thanks. any chance i could purchase a cd of that collection? the other, bothersome stuff is simply fleeting distraction and whispers in the wind... hoping you'll return here soon, but look forward to seeing you again in july in any event. sounds like we'll have plenty of hot water camaraderie available for all at the slide inn this year... i'll bring some "wine". g jeff |
On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:00:33 -0400, vincent p. norris
wrote: I freely admit that's the *only* way I've ever been able to drink a Rainier. And tomato juice couldn't possibly do anything but improve an Old Milwaukee. ;-) Ranier ale or beer? The ale was very good, back in the -60s. What do you think of Schlitz? vince I try not to. g.c. |
vincent p. norris wrote:
I freely admit that's the *only* way I've ever been able to drink a Rainier. And tomato juice couldn't possibly do anything but improve an Old Milwaukee. ;-) Ranier ale or beer? The ale was very good, back in the -60s. What do you think of Schlitz? The lineup of brand names now owned by Pabst reads like a who's who of small midwestern breweries of the 60s; Falstaff, Stag, Carling Black Label, Blatz. Pabst owns Old Style, Old Milwaukee, Schlitz, Schaefer, Olympia, Lone Star, Pearl and Rainier from other regions of the US. None of them, I would suspect, are as good now as when they were independently owned. The one exception I know of is Leinenkugel. Miller bought Leinenkugel fairly recently but allowed them to continue to brew it right ... for the time being. -- Ken Fortenberry |
"Larry L" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote Meanwhile, I refuse to accept the premise that wholesale hate and contempt are acceptable and even amusing while attempts to call attention to them are reprehensible. I admit that you lost me here, to a large degree, as it applies to what preceeded. But I find nothing in the sentence, as a separate thought, to disagree with .... hate and contempt are rarely acceptable, and calling attention to that may qualify as a human duty Wolfgang who, somewhat exceptionally it would appear, doesn't know anyone who can make him read what bores him. Boredom, like most things, varies greatly in degree within a given person's daily routine, and greatly from person to person. As that applies ( if it does ) to this thread "on booze," I have read about 8 or 10 of the total posts in the thread. I nearly always stop reading a thread, or sub-thread once it gets to the name calling stage, or is reduced to just two or three people going "back and forth" .... such threads have reached a intellectual boredom level that makes them interesting only to nastiness voyeurs, or, sometimes on roff, the opposite, as two people tell the world just how much they like getting drunk and fishing together ...both too boring to bear. Experience has also shown that some posters are uniformly more interesting than others, so I'm likely to pull one of Willi's posts out of an otherwise discarded thread and follow it a step or two to see where it leads. What is interesting, like what is boring, varies a great deal from one individual to another. In either case, I don't begrudge you or anyone else their choices. And I think that you, Wolfgang, can be very interesting on the occasions that serious thought appeals to you more than meanness .... ah, that human duty to point out, mentioned above ...... so I probably check 60% of your posts until I find you amusing yourself with contempt and hate, then I abandon you in that thread. I'll assume that your 60% figure is a more or less arbitrary estimate and that it doesn't suggest you find that percentage of what I write interesting. I'd be surprised if anyone did. As to whether or not I amuse myself with contempt and hate, well, your impressions are your own and you're welcome to them. However, it might be worth considering that your expression of that thought could be seen by some as less than constructive. For what little it is probably worth, you can abandon me at any time in any thread.....or altogether.....with my blessing. So, again, we agree ... we don't actually read much of the very boring .... We may indeed agree on some things, but I read everything on ROFF. I usually assume MY posts get very little attention, Why? I post mainly to help me sort my own thoughts ... That's fair enough. Others probably do the same. Evidently, not everyone's thoughts mesh nicely with your own. or, gad, discuss Fly Fishing G I see precious little of that in any of the above. Wolfgang |
"Willi" wrote in message ... ...We're never going to see this in even a similar manner. So you will continue your "justified" name calling and I will continue to occasionally confront (or whine at, if you prefer) you for it. Your choice - my choice and neither of us like the others' choice. Most of that (and the snipped preceding material) is just fine. But, if you'll permit me one small correction.......I support your choice wholeheartedly. ...I'm thinking my "best solution", for now, is to take a break from ROFF. You'll be missed. Wolfgang |
Wolfgang wrote:
"Larry L" wrote in message ... snip Experience has also shown that some posters are uniformly more interesting than others, so I'm likely to pull one of Willi's posts out of an otherwise discarded thread and follow it a step or two to see where it leads. What is interesting, like what is boring, varies a great deal from one individual to another. In either case, I don't begrudge you or anyone else their choices. Precisely. I don't claim to read everything posted, but I read *almost* everything. Once a thread disolves into the Tit -Tat --Tit ---Tat patern, I'll look away. That is, of course, unless I'm Tit or Tat. ;-) In any case, ROFF seems to reach this point periodically when otherwise regular posters state for one reason or another they're leaving for a while to take a breather. For the life of me I can't figure that out. Why not just take the breather if it bothers them so much and come back when they're ready rather than fan the flames of discontent? It's not like anyone is forcing them to read any particular items. I must be missing something. -- TL, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:46:55 -0400, "Tim J."
wrote: Wolfgang wrote: "Larry L" wrote in message ... snip Experience has also shown that some posters are uniformly more interesting than others, so I'm likely to pull one of Willi's posts out of an otherwise discarded thread and follow it a step or two to see where it leads. What is interesting, like what is boring, varies a great deal from one individual to another. In either case, I don't begrudge you or anyone else their choices. Precisely. I don't claim to read everything posted, but I read *almost* everything. Once a thread disolves into the Tit -Tat --Tit ---Tat patern, I'll look away. That is, of course, unless I'm Tit or Tat. ;-) In any case, ROFF seems to reach this point periodically when otherwise regular posters state for one reason or another they're leaving for a while to take a breather. For the life of me I can't figure that out. Why not just take the breather if it bothers them so much and come back when they're ready rather than fan the flames of discontent? It's not like anyone is forcing them to read any particular items. I must be missing something. Google up "Barrymore"...Ethel... HTH, R |
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