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Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: http://www.massresources.org/massach...service_d.html Get your friend under the bridge some real help, that's what government is for you know. I'm sure the state of Massachusetts can come up with something better than poop baggies. But, you're a real sweetheart for giving him poop baggies, really you are. He's been that route, Ken. He's received very little help from the "government". All the help he is now getting is from charitable giving. Period. Something doesn't smell right with that story. I think you've been had, Louie. If I were you I wouldn't give that deadbeat any more poop baggies until he started to look for a job. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... Tom, check out how much money the man has contributed to charity. It is almost zero. With his wealth, it should be in the tens of thousands. I think you can judge him by what is in his heart, and it sure as hell is not charity. Check it out. It had been on the news a week or so ago. his wealth?? Not really all that much, especially by Delaware standards. I'll stand by what I said, as to his character. You would be wise to disregard much of what you seem to 'hear' in the 'news'. Tom |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:53:21 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Dave LaCourse wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: http://www.massresources.org/massach...service_d.html Get your friend under the bridge some real help, that's what government is for you know. I'm sure the state of Massachusetts can come up with something better than poop baggies. But, you're a real sweetheart for giving him poop baggies, really you are. He's been that route, Ken. He's received very little help from the "government". All the help he is now getting is from charitable giving. Period. Something doesn't smell right with that story. I think you've been had, Louie. If I were you I wouldn't give that deadbeat any more poop baggies until he started to look for a job. Nope. There is a whole set of "campers" on the north shore of the Merrimack River in Lowell. They've been there for a couple of years. Mark and his wife are new arrivals - about six weeks now. People come and go as their luck changes. Some are just professional bums, but many, like Mark and his wife, are homeless and get little care from the government. He *does* work when he can find it. He is a sheetrock guy... installs sheet rock in new construction, upgrades, etc. And, from what I understand, he is very good at it. Right now, however, he depends on the generousity of others. The government (FDA) presently supplies a can of green beans, fruit cocktail, pineapple juice (big can), can of chicken noodle soup, and a small can of tuna fish per person per month. That is not a helluva lot of food from FDA *for a month*. We give them more than enough food for one week/person. A family of five will walk out of there with three banana boxes filled with canned food, cereal, fresh veggies, fresh fruit, starches (rice/macaroni), toilet paper, hygenic needs, and one pound of meat per person. They can visit our facility once. However, there are three more facilities in the city that they can, and do, visit. And of this is provided by the generousity of others. Without it, people would go hungry. The government was never meant to be the solution to every problem in our society. Some solutions must come from the people themselves. Dave |
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: Dave LaCourse wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: http://www.massresources.org/massach...service_d.html Get your friend under the bridge some real help, that's what government is for you know. I'm sure the state of Massachusetts can come up with something better than poop baggies. But, you're a real sweetheart for giving him poop baggies, really you are. He's been that route, Ken. He's received very little help from the "government". All the help he is now getting is from charitable giving. Period. Something doesn't smell right with that story. I think you've been had, Louie. If I were you I wouldn't give that deadbeat any more poop baggies until he started to look for a job. Nope. ... I'm not buying that cock and bull, Louie. You can't tell me that the only safety net for the indigent in the state of Massachusetts is one can of FDA tuna per month. I even provided you with the web site which proves otherwise. The government was never meant to be the solution to every problem in our society. Some solutions must come from the people themselves. We don't disagree on that, but it is the responsibility of citizens in a civilized society to take care of those who cannot take care of themselves. Indeed, that is one measure of a civilized society. Donate to charity if you want, but don't forget that the government has a responsibility to the unfortunate among us. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:04:35 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: I'm not buying that cock and bull, Louie. You can't tell me that the only safety net for the indigent in the state of Massachusetts is one can of FDA tuna per month. I even provided you with the web site which proves otherwise. You figure it out: They are allowed one trip to the facility a month. We are allowed one can of tuna fish/person for that trip. That is FDA money/product. *Sometimes* (like last week), we will have FDA meat in the form of ham or turkey. Last week we had 3 lb hams provided by FDA (read: free). There are other programs. There has to be (should be), but sometimes folks do not meet the requirements. We feed more than 150 families a week. It has been steady for the past two years. That means that we are feeding somewhere around 400 to 450 people a week. Consistently. You don't believe me, check into a food patry in your home town. There is one in mine, run by the Catholic Church in town. I choose to drive to Lowell, about 30 miles away, because I know the folks who run it. There are food pantries in most good size towns. Hell, even better, volunteer. You'll probably meet some conservatives that you will instantly like. Dave (I will afford you this courtesy: On Tuesday I will ask those that run the pantry exactly why the "tent people" can not get other aid, or if they actually do. I know for sure that Mark and his wife's appearance has gone down hill in the past month. When I first met him he was clean, shaved, and his clothes were fresh. Now he is dirty, with a filthy beard, and he smells. I guess camping out for a few weeks doesn't do much for your appearance. Taking all your craps in a plastic bag lined pail can't be helping either.) |
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~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
Beneath Obama's flowery rhetoric lies a dangerous economic plan that will wreak havoc on the American economy. Obama plans to return to the failed policies of high taxation coupled with an expansion of government spending. Worse, Obama says he is absolutely committed to almost doubling the capital gains rate — something he will easily accomplish with a Democrat Congress. In the coming months — when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate — there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year. "Wreak havoc on the American economy." Good one. Not that I don't think failed economic policies *could* lead to a stampede of asset sales, mind you....... g After 21 Jan 09, Dow could fall from, oh, 1000 to 500 maybe. - JR |
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Kevin Vang wrote:
In article , says... Tom, check out how much money the man has contributed to charity. It is almost zero. Um, where are you getting your numbers? Tax returns? I wouldn't be so quick to judge. Our family, for example, donates a bit of money to various charities, but I've never bothered to declare it as a tax deduction. After all, a noted authority once said that when you give to charity, the left hand shouldn't know what the right hand is doing. No, don't you know unless you brag about how much you give, on, say, Usenet forums, for example, it doesn't count? 'Course, you might, as a graduate of Columbia, work as a community organizer for next to nothing, but that wouldn't count either, because working with and for the urban poor is just something to make fun of...... - JR |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:04:24 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote: his wealth?? Not really all that much, especially by Delaware standards. I'll stand by what I said, as to his character. You would be wise to disregard much of what you seem to 'hear' in the 'news'. Well, I could do well to disregard what I hear on NBC and CBS, and the NY Times, it was one of those sources that originally broke the sad news about Generous Joe. The man makes more that Joe Sixpack, and Joe Sixpack gives more to charity. Biden makes in excess of $200K/year. That is wealthy in my book. If I can give $xxxx/year to charity, it should be no problem for Biden to also do. READ IT, Tom. http://taxingtennessee.blogspot.com/...taxpayers.html Your hero is a cheap skate, more concerned with his own well being than those around him. Read it! He's even a cheaper ******* than Kerry, and I thought that was impossible. Dave |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:01:43 -0500, Kevin Vang
wrote: Tax returns? Tax returns should be accurate. No one in the Biden camp has denied the numbers. Before Kerry was running for potus his "largess" was well known; it amounted to less than 1/2 of 1% of his total income of $300K/year. When he ran for potus, he managed to correct that figure to somewhere up the scale where it should have been all along. Coincidental? Or planned so that he would look a little bit more human. We are talking about the ruling class, Kevin, not about you and me and the rest of the country. Ruling Class. The Bidens, Kennedys, Kerrys, et al. "Let them eat cake." Dave |
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