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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
"jeff" wrote

snip good advice & seconded

I'll third the motion. I've posted a coupla Cumbayah messages myself in the
past, and I was sitting this one out; but thanks for the effort this time
around. Fat lot of good it's likely to do; but somebody's gotta say it once
in a while.

Joe F.

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
t...

Stick Wolfgang in your killfile and you will eliminate most of the
unpleasantness you're so sick and tired of. And if every single
target of his invective were to do the same, or completely ignore
him, there would be no invective ping pong.

Exactly! If you pretend the people who scare you are invisible......why
then it's easy to pretend that they don't exist and NEVER have to deal with
them, think about them, or refer to them......EVER again! :)

It's a simple solution, that's why it will never work. ;-)

Out of the mouths of babes and morons.

Wolfgang

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Wolfgang typed:
snip
Wolfgang
who, not so incidentally, is the best ping pong player (verbal or
otherwise) he's ever seen.

Okay - the gauntlet is thrown. Ping pong at ten paces, sirruh!
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

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Wolfgang wrote:

In just over two years I've put forth in this newsgroup 19 offerings in a
series titled "Forgotten Treasures." 34 threads in all, counting various
parts. In aggregate, they have generated a grand total of 161 posts, not
counting the original post in each thread. This is considerably less than
we find in any one of scores of threads in any given year. Why? Because
it's not what the majority want.......it's not what interests them.

I have nothing to add about the ping-pong, but I'll hazard the
thought that your conclusion regarding the Treasures may be
overstated.

Over the years many folks have remarked that TRs are much read
and greatly appreciated, but don't generate many posts. Just a
fact of life. Myself, when folks post long, especially
multipart, texts, rather than read them on-line, I cut and paste
them into a form I can print recto-verso in a denser format. I
then read them in hard copy when I can get around to them, which
is often when I'm away from a computer and can't post a comment.
Your "Forgotten Treasures" fall into this category. I have no
idea whether I've ever posted even a single comment about them,
but I'm pretty sure that they're the sort of thing that interests
me.

I've more than once thought there might even be a modest market
out there for a well-edited compilation in book form...... ;)

- JR

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On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:03:35 -0400, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote:


"jeff" wrote

you know...all this name calling bull**** does get a bit tedious and silly
after a while. you fellers don't like one another...or don't appear to
based on what is writ large (too large) here. most of us have figured that
out. i suppose one can become analytical and clinical in seeking reasons
and justifications, but i'd reckon such efforts would be more productive
if applied to other pursuits. my friend jim tells the story of a graham
county fisherman...perhaps one of the best in that area of the
state...who, while transporting him and some others on a fishing venture
(to snowbird i think), tired of their gruff and profane statements and
pulled the truck over to the side of the road. roy bailey said to them,
quietly but in that firm nc mountain-accented voice: "you'uns is gonna die
one of these days." he then pulled back on the road and continued on
without another word on the issue...

i've spent time with each of you (mark, dave, wolfgang...and several
others). enough time to have some sense of who you are. in each
experience, i've discovered a decency, intellect, and kind spirit that is
at odds with the way you interact here with each other. i am simply
incapable of deciphering the reasons, but i have no desire to do so. it's
hurtful to see folks like y'all engaged in this nattering nonsense.
so...quit it. leave one another alone. quit calling each other names. if
you want to disagree about something, let your words focus on the ideas or
concepts or statements about which you disagree... calling each other an
idiot, moron, hypocrit, evil, etc. is meaningless and useless verbal ping
pong.

just my one cent...

jeff (pulling back on the road and continuing on)

i didn't snip much, because i wanted to accentuate my support for each
and every word.
i'm sick and tired of it. clearly, neither i nor you, nor anyone else,
has the authority to affect the flow of invective, and it is unlikely that
the participants will care what you say, or be concerned by the expression
of agreement by myself or others around here with your position. still, i
consider this something that i just ought to do--and should have done
earlier, if for no other reason than to stand and be counted.
i don't propose to threaten anyone with anything, and i certainly don't
intend to turn on my heel, swirl my cape, and leave in a huff. i simply
wish these good people would find a way to leave it all alone, or take it
somewhere else.
btw, i was in that ford pickup on the way to snowbird those many years
ago, and i have been grateful for that epiphany ever since.

your friend in the piedmont
wayno

Ya know, if I hadn't seen jeff-followed-by-wayno, followed by
God-knows-how-many-replies, I'da never read the above...

HTH (no, really, I do)
YFCITGS,
R
....and I'm not arguing with message (or the messengers), just wondering
why y'all even know the message is needed....

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I'll throw in an amen to jeff and wayno, too...southern gentlemen,
both.

On May 31, 6:31 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:

The majority produce.....and get.....what they want.

Nope. _You_ produce what _you_ want to. That goes for every person who
posts. It's _your_ individual choice. Nothing democratic about it.

What interests them......what they WANT......is useless verbal ping pong.

If "they" are so interested in it, why is it there's such a precious
few who flood the newsgroup with it? It has nothing to do with what
"the majority" want. The vast majority don't play this game...

So be it.

Just an excuse.

Jon.

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wrote in message
ups.com...
I'll throw in an amen to jeff and wayno, too...southern gentlemen,
both.

On May 31, 6:31 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:

The majority produce.....and get.....what they want.

Nope. _You_ produce what _you_ want to. That goes for every person who
posts. It's _your_ individual choice. Nothing democratic about it.

Even for you, this one is a real gem. :)

Reading your stuff, one can hardly escape the conclusion that you don't have
a very good idea of what you are saying. One is forced to wonder whether
you have any clues about what you mean.

What interests them......what they WANT......is useless verbal ping pong.

If "they" are so interested in it, why is it there's such a precious
few who flood the newsgroup with it? It has nothing to do with what
"the majority" want. The vast majority don't play this game...

I recall a certain thread, back a couple of months ago. Someone was looking
for information about where to fish in a particular region, complicated by
disability restrictions. Several people responded. Short thread, though.
Never an acknowledgment (let alone a thank you) from the OP. On the other
hand, find an off topic troll with roughly 120 posts from 23 participants
and guess who shows up to take a shot at one of the repondents to that short
thread from way back.

So be it.

Just an excuse.

Maybe so. What's yours?

Wolfgang

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"JR" wrote in message
...
Wolfgang wrote:

In just over two years I've put forth in this newsgroup 19 offerings in a
series titled "Forgotten Treasures." 34 threads in all, counting various
parts. In aggregate, they have generated a grand total of 161 posts, not
counting the original post in each thread. This is considerably less
than we find in any one of scores of threads in any given year. Why?
Because it's not what the majority want.......it's not what interests
them.

I have nothing to add about the ping-pong, but I'll hazard the
thought that your conclusion regarding the Treasures may be
overstated.

Maybe so. Or maybe you just disagree with it.

Over the years many folks have remarked that TRs are much read
and greatly appreciated, but don't generate many posts.

Yeah, that's pretty much a paraphrase of what I said above.......or maybe
it's the other way around. Either way, it's a pleasant thought and a nice
theory, but the only way I can think of to test it yields dubious results.

Just a fact of life.

Yes, it is that.

Myself, when folks post long, especially
multipart, texts, rather than read them on-line, I cut and paste
them into a form I can print recto-verso in a denser format. I
then read them in hard copy when I can get around to them, which
is often when I'm away from a computer and can't post a comment.
Your "Forgotten Treasures" fall into this category. I have no
idea whether I've ever posted even a single comment about them,
but I'm pretty sure that they're the sort of thing that interests
me.

Well, that's good to know, but this IS ROFF. Which is to say that it's a
Usenet newsgroup. Which is to say that it is not primarily a library
reading room, but rather a "discussion" forum. And there is nothing to keep
anyone from "discussing" any public domain material that finds its way here.

Personally, I would strongly advise you (singular and plural) to "discuss"
whatever you choose to.......and leave the rest alone. Really, I would.*

I've more than once thought there might even be a modest market
out there for a well-edited compilation in book form...... ;)

Experience suggests this would lend a new poignancy to the term "modest."
:)

Wolfgang
*but then, you already do that.