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wrote in message
Oooo-kay....how is that "racist?" It's a pretty well accepted term,

Accepted by you and your ilk, perhaps; but that speaks volumes in itself.
In that you've now used this "jungle" reference twice recently in clear
reference to a well educated and respected black candidate for the
Presidency cannot be interpreted as anything other than an intentional
disparagement of his race and himself personally. You knew exactly what you
were writing, you know exactly what it implies, and you know damned well
it's racist. Spare me the bull**** spin.

Joe F.

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
To borrow your argument, if Kerry did indeed lie under oath
before Congress why wasn't he ever prosecuted for perjury ?

*EXACTLY*

Huh ? Exactly what ?

snip
Kerry did not receive an honorable discharge from the Navy. His
discharge read "committee of officers" and was dated during the Carter
administration (all on Kerry's website when running for potus). Does
not that make you just a little curious about his character.

The fact that he was in the Navy would be reason enough for me
to question his character but if he was eventually kicked out
of the Navy that would be a mitigating factor in his favor.

(By the way, what are we to think about all those medals the
Navy gave to Kerry ? ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
t...

To borrow your argument, if Kerry did indeed lie under oath
before Congress why wasn't he ever prosecuted for perjury ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

Dave's arguement, of course, not mine, but to answer your question:
At the time he made those lies before Congress, he was just a puny-assed ex
LTjg (in the video clip wherein I saw him lying to Congress, he was not in
uniform) representing some anti-war group (Viet Nam Vets Against the War,
IIRC). Congress would have time for little else if they went after everyone
who lied to them under oath. They reserve that action for cases where the
pols can gain political traction from doing so. Going after (at the time) a
nobody like Kerry for the lies he told certainly didn't fit that agenda.

Bob Weinberger

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:04:01 GMT, "rb608"
wrote:

wrote in message
Oooo-kay....how is that "racist?" It's a pretty well accepted term,

Accepted by you and your ilk, perhaps; but that speaks volumes in itself.
In that you've now used this "jungle" reference twice recently in clear
reference to a well educated and respected black candidate for the
Presidency cannot be interpreted as anything other than an intentional
disparagement of his race and himself personally. You knew exactly what you
were writing, you know exactly what it implies, and you know damned well
it's racist. Spare me the bull**** spin.

Joe F.

ahahahahahahaha!
That last line cuts to the core of Richard's being.
He's *always* been *all* about bull**** spin. Sheesh...

/daytripper (and he's been a first-rate troll on this group for years...)

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Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
To borrow your argument, if Kerry did indeed lie under oath
before Congress why wasn't he ever prosecuted for perjury ?

Dave's arguement, of course, not mine, but to answer your question:
At the time he made those lies before Congress, he was just a puny-assed ex
LTjg (in the video clip wherein I saw him lying to Congress, he was not in
uniform) representing some anti-war group (Viet Nam Vets Against the War,
IIRC). Congress would have time for little else if they went after everyone
who lied to them under oath. They reserve that action for cases where the
pols can gain political traction from doing so. Going after (at the time) a
nobody like Kerry for the lies he told certainly didn't fit that agenda.

Yeah, there's that but perhaps he wasn't lying in the first place.
One thing we do know for a fact is that the Swiftboating of Kerry
was a pack of despicable lies so you'll have to excuse me if I don't
place a whole lot of credence in your Swiftboat redux.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"Bob Weinberger" wrote in
news:Rg2uj.21991$s33.19543@trndny06:

Congress would have time for little else if they went after everyone
who lied to them under oath. They reserve that action for cases where
the pols can gain political traction from doing so.

Timing, too. Don't forget GHWB and his Iran Contra testimony. Reagan is
in the clear, though. It's all to believable that he didn't remember
anything about it.


--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:05:31 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
To borrow your argument, if Kerry did indeed lie under oath
before Congress why wasn't he ever prosecuted for perjury ?

*EXACTLY*

Huh ? Exactly what ?

Exactly why hasn't he been prosecuted? Why hasn't Clinton been
prosecuted.

snip
Kerry did not receive an honorable discharge from the Navy. His
discharge read "committee of officers" and was dated during the Carter
administration (all on Kerry's website when running for potus). Does
not that make you just a little curious about his character.

The fact that he was in the Navy would be reason enough for me
to question his character but if he was eventually kicked out
of the Navy that would be a mitigating factor in his favor.

Har, har, har. Just let the Communist Hordes come knockin' on your
door and you'd be callin' for the U.S.Na...........uh, no, maybe you
wouldn't at that. Feel right at home then, eh? d;o)



(By the way, what are we to think about all those medals the
Navy gave to Kerry ? ;-)

As Zoomwalt said, "Get that loose cannon out of my command!"

He won the Silver Star for action that normally wouldn't even win the
Bronze Star. And he won the Bronze Star for saving a Green Beret
officer the HE (Kerry) knocked overboard fleeing from a fight. All of
his PHs are in question. Rice in the buttocks? Only one way to get
that one - not knowing how to throw a grenade into a native vessel's
hold full of ........ wait for it..... wait..... ta da, *rice*. d;o)

Yer hero is like all of yer heroes, Ken -- another phony.

Dave

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Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:24:11 -0500, jeff miller
wrote:


uh...ever heard of the "common law"?


Of course, but the Florida Supreme's were not ruling on "common law",
but were changing an existing law to suit their political party -- all
of them were appointed by Democrats, and all *except* the Chief
Justice realized they could not do that. Fortunately the Fed Supremes
ruled against them, otherwise they would still be counting votes in
Floriduh.



this was your statement:

No Judicial branch of our government can *make*
the law, only interpret it.

it was an incorrect statement...but one heard frequently as part of
republican sloganeering...usually in conjunction with the pejorative use
of "liberal" in reference to a judge's or judicial nominee's
decision-making.

and...uh...you do know that the supremes were "making" law just as much
as, if not more than, the florida court, don't you? it was a political
act as much as a judicial act, and reconfirmed the insightful comment
that "No matter whether th' Constitution follows th' flag or not, th'
Supreme Coort follows th' illection returns."

jeff

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
et...

Yeah, there's that but perhaps he wasn't lying in the first place.
One thing we do know for a fact is that the Swiftboating of Kerry
was a pack of despicable lies so you'll have to excuse me if I don't
place a whole lot of credence in your Swiftboat redux.

--
Ken Fortenberry

No perhaps about it. Based on my knowledge of situation in Viet Nam at the
time he and I were there, there is no way in Hell that he witnessed all he
said under oath that he had. Also though we know for a fact that some of
the SwiftBoaters allegations were outright lies, based my own experiences
and on conversations I've had with fellow Naval officers who were in Nam at
the same time, and have no axe to grind Kerry, there is no way I can
accept as fact that all the allegations were lies.

BTW I was not and am not a Bush supporter. I was unable to hold my nose long
enough to vote for him even though based on my perceptionof Kerry's
character (actually his lack thereof) there was no way I would vote for him.
So I cast a futile protest vote for some non-viable 3rd party candidate
(can't even remember who at this point).

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:16:45 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Yeah, there's that but perhaps he wasn't lying in the first place.
One thing we do know for a fact is that the Swiftboating of Kerry
was a pack of despicable lies so you'll have to excuse me if I don't
place a whole lot of credence in your Swiftboat redux.

You keep on going back to the Swiftboat thingy. Neither Bob nor I
have mentioned it. That had nothing to do with his perjury before
Congress. HE LIED UNDER OATH BEFORE CONGRESS! Throwing his medals
over the fence had NOTHING TO DO WITH SWIFTBOATS. Going to Paris
while in uniform had NOTHING TO DO WITH SWIFTBOATS. Kapeesh?
Comprendre? Comprendee?

You keep it up, buddy, and I'll get Wolfgang to give you reading
lessons.

Dave