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"snakefiddler" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... Well, if one has read Nin at all, another probably need not ask whether one has read "Delta of Venus". :) "one's" poor copy, (which was purchased back in the late seventies), has been so *ravished*, (how's that for an appropraite reference ;-)?), that "one" cannot pick it up without some of the pages falling out. i continue to work on her diary piece by peice...... Wolfgang hey stevie!.....hey kennie!.....you should check it out...... it's all about pu...... nah, that book, i would argue, makes a strong feminist statement, and is a work that reflects the unapologetic shedding of social sexual conventions assigned to women. some folks, however, may have trouble appreciating it in it's deeper context. my concern is that some folks are un-likely to see it as anything more than a collection of penthouse letters. it's all about pu...... ah, wolfie- i have a feeling you know it is about much more than that, (see the above statement) It's been a long time since I picked it up.....I would say "read it", except that I'm pretty sure I never finished. Judged by today's standards and in light of what we know about Nin, "Delta of Venus" certainly COULD be taken as a feminist statement. But, if memory serves, Nin had no such thing in mind in writing it....or, at least not overtly. "Delta of Venus" is actually a collection of individual pieces written over a more or less protracted period......as much as a couple of years, perhaps? Nin wrote them....rather unwillingly....as bits of erotica for a private "patron" just for the money. The customer repeatedly suggested that she (and, I think, other contributors as well) leave out the philosophizing and poetics, and just get down to the nitty gritty. The more lurid bits were deliberately written over the top as a sort of protest cum resignation. The customer liked it. Wolfgang |
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... Well, if one has read Nin at all, another probably need not ask whether one has read "Delta of Venus". :) "one's" poor copy, (which was purchased back in the late seventies), has been so *ravished*, (how's that for an appropraite reference ;-)?), that "one" cannot pick it up without some of the pages falling out. i continue to work on her diary piece by peice...... Wolfgang hey stevie!.....hey kennie!.....you should check it out...... it's all about pu...... nah, that book, i would argue, makes a strong feminist statement, and is a work that reflects the unapologetic shedding of social sexual conventions assigned to women. some folks, however, may have trouble appreciating it in it's deeper context. my concern is that some folks are un-likely to see it as anything more than a collection of penthouse letters. it's all about pu...... ah, wolfie- i have a feeling you know it is about much more than that, (see the above statement) It's been a long time since I picked it up.....I would say "read it", except that I'm pretty sure I never finished. Judged by today's standards and in light of what we know about Nin, "Delta of Venus" certainly COULD be taken as a feminist statement. But, if memory serves, Nin had no such thing in mind in writing it....or, at least not overtly. "Delta of Venus" is actually a collection of individual pieces written over a more or less protracted period......as much as a couple of years, perhaps? Nin wrote them....rather unwillingly....as bits of erotica for a private "patron" just for the money. The customer repeatedly suggested that she (and, I think, other contributors as well) leave out the philosophizing and poetics, and just get down to the nitty gritty. The more lurid bits were deliberately written over the top as a sort of protest cum resignation. The customer liked it. Wolfgang |
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "snakefiddler" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... Well, if one has read Nin at all, another probably need not ask whether one has read "Delta of Venus". :) "one's" poor copy, (which was purchased back in the late seventies), has been so *ravished*, (how's that for an appropraite reference ;-)?), that "one" cannot pick it up without some of the pages falling out. i continue to work on her diary piece by peice...... Wolfgang hey stevie!.....hey kennie!.....you should check it out...... it's all about pu...... nah, that book, i would argue, makes a strong feminist statement, and is a work that reflects the unapologetic shedding of social sexual conventions assigned to women. some folks, however, may have trouble appreciating it in it's deeper context. my concern is that some folks are un-likely to see it as anything more than a collection of penthouse letters. it's all about pu...... ah, wolfie- i have a feeling you know it is about much more than that, (see the above statement) It's been a long time since I picked it up.....I would say "read it", except that I'm pretty sure I never finished. Judged by today's standards and in light of what we know about Nin, "Delta of Venus" certainly COULD be taken as a feminist statement. But, if memory serves, Nin had no such thing in mind in writing it....or, at least not overtly. "Delta of Venus" is actually a collection of individual pieces written over a more or less protracted period......as much as a couple of years, perhaps? Nin wrote them....rather unwillingly....as bits of erotica for a private "patron" just for the money. The customer repeatedly suggested that she (and, I think, other contributors as well) leave out the philosophizing and poetics, and just get down to the nitty gritty. The more lurid bits were deliberately written over the top as a sort of protest cum resignation. a little passive agressive behavior, maybe? The customer liked it. Wolfgang right you are- they *were* written specifically at the request of a patron. nin was, as is evidenced by her unconventional lifestyle, an iconoclastic , (to borrow a word from the good counselor in the piedmont g), figure, and i think it is difficult for an author to write without exposing his or her own experiences, attitudes, biases, etc., however deliberate or un-deliberate. and in spite of her patron's requests, she still managed to bring to the work wonderful creativity, and imagry. the poetics lie therein. as for the customer liking it- who wouldn't ;-) snake |
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yfitons wayno Honestly, I didn't know what your's meant for months, maybe years. Guess I'm not cut out to be a lawyer after all :-) Jon. |
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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message om...
yfitons wayno Honestly, I didn't know what your's meant for months, maybe years. Guess I'm not cut out to be a lawyer after all :-) Jon. |
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"David Snedeker" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "rw" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: "Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On 1 Sep 2004 05:18:24 GMT, "David Snedeker" wrote: I choose to see it as that, rare as a quark, "Wolfgang error." Maybe you meant as hard to detect as a quark? Quarks aren't exactly rare. FWIW Well, in that case the only real resemblance is their shared ability to pass unnoticed through even the densest objects. Those are neutrinos, not quarks. Huh? I thought neutrinos was a kind of sheep. WRONG, once again you are WRONG. Neutrinos are not a type (sic) of sheep. You are simply WRONG. Hm......you don't know what that little "(sic)" thingy means, do you? :) Wolfgang |
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"David Snedeker" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "rw" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: "Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On 1 Sep 2004 05:18:24 GMT, "David Snedeker" wrote: I choose to see it as that, rare as a quark, "Wolfgang error." Maybe you meant as hard to detect as a quark? Quarks aren't exactly rare. FWIW Well, in that case the only real resemblance is their shared ability to pass unnoticed through even the densest objects. Those are neutrinos, not quarks. Huh? I thought neutrinos was a kind of sheep. WRONG, once again you are WRONG. Neutrinos are not a type (sic) of sheep. You are simply WRONG. Hm......you don't know what that little "(sic)" thingy means, do you? :) Wolfgang |
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"David Snedeker" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "rw" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: "Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On 1 Sep 2004 05:18:24 GMT, "David Snedeker" wrote: I choose to see it as that, rare as a quark, "Wolfgang error." Maybe you meant as hard to detect as a quark? Quarks aren't exactly rare. FWIW Well, in that case the only real resemblance is their shared ability to pass unnoticed through even the densest objects. Those are neutrinos, not quarks. Huh? I thought neutrinos was a kind of sheep. WRONG, once again you are WRONG. Neutrinos are not a type (sic) of sheep. You are simply WRONG. Hm......you don't know what that little "(sic)" thingy means, do you? :) Wolfgang |
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"David Snedeker" wrote in message ... Hm......you don't know what that little "(sic)" thingy means, do you? :) Wolfgang Does't it mean "stick it cunard?" Nope. Guess again. Wolfgang |
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"David Snedeker" wrote in message ... Hm......you don't know what that little "(sic)" thingy means, do you? :) Wolfgang Does't it mean "stick it cunard?" Nope. Guess again. Wolfgang |
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