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"George Cleveland" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:01:43 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

The force of an idea lies in its inspirational
value. It matters very little if it is true or false.


Arthur Bullard. The U.S. propaganda chief in WW I

g.c.

Ching!

Wanna bet Goebbels read Bullard? :)

Wolfgang
you want that in cash......or will you take ward bond?

Terrorists on ROFF?
 

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 19:32:44 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


"George Cleveland" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:01:43 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

The force of an idea lies in its inspirational
value. It matters very little if it is true or false.


Arthur Bullard. The U.S. propaganda chief in WW I

g.c.

Ching!

Wanna bet Goebbels read Bullard? :)

Wolfgang
you want that in cash......or will you take ward bond?

Just drop it in some grubby urchin's Unicef box next weekend. ( I
*will* need a receipt of course.)

g.c.

Terrorists on ROFF?
 

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 19:32:44 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


"George Cleveland" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:01:43 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

The force of an idea lies in its inspirational
value. It matters very little if it is true or false.


Arthur Bullard. The U.S. propaganda chief in WW I

g.c.

Ching!

Wanna bet Goebbels read Bullard? :)

Wolfgang
you want that in cash......or will you take ward bond?

Just drop it in some grubby urchin's Unicef box next weekend. ( I
*will* need a receipt of course.)

g.c.

Terrorists on ROFF?
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

It is a character flaw. But it has no more to do with any garbled
religious
nonsense than it does with your own incoherent misunderstanding of the
various brands of garbled religious nonsense. In the first place, no
brand
of Christianity is any kind of primitive Judaism. SNIPSNIP

Sorry to bust your bubble but Jesus was an itinerant backwoods Jewish
preacher serving mostly illiterate farmers and herders, with a simplified
moral code adapted for people living close to the bone. He was one of a
fairly common breed. He came to town and raised hell in the Temple and was
crucified that year as the regular sacrificial example to other hell
raisers. The Romans crucified backwoods Jewish preachers before Jesus and
they crucified backwoods Jewish hellraisers after Jesus.

Paul beat it out of town and worked up his own Jesus shtick which caught on
among the lesser educated Jews who frequented the mostly social gatherings
in the temples of the Northern Med. This simplified Judaism, minus the
scholastic hair splitting of the rabbinical class, became a popular sect
among the Jewish Diaspora of traders and craftsman. Not really that unique,
until . . . a set of chance events in Rome propelled this particular cult
onto the stage as the official monotheism of the Roman Empire.

Given these origins, and notwithstanding all the additions from Paul's
creation of the glorified Jesus, through St. Thomas, and the efforts of all
those Holy Fathers to complicate things, and those busy beavers Messieurs
Luther, Tillich and Barth etc , down to our times, . . . its not much of a
stretch to think of Christians as "Jesus Jews."

Dave

Terrorists on ROFF?
 

"David Snedeker" wrote in message
. ..

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

It is a character flaw. But it has no more to do with any garbled
religious
nonsense than it does with your own incoherent misunderstanding of
the
various brands of garbled religious nonsense. In the first place,
no
brand
of Christianity is any kind of primitive Judaism. SNIPSNIP

Sorry to bust your bubble but Jesus was an itinerant backwoods
Jewish
preacher serving mostly illiterate farmers and herders, with a
simplified
moral code adapted for people living close to the bone. He was one
of a
fairly common breed. He came to town and raised hell in the Temple
and was
crucified that year as the regular sacrificial example to other hell
raisers. The Romans crucified backwoods Jewish preachers before
Jesus and
they crucified backwoods Jewish hellraisers after Jesus.

Paul beat it out of town and worked up his own Jesus shtick which
caught on
among the lesser educated Jews who frequented the mostly social
gatherings
in the temples of the Northern Med. This simplified Judaism, minus
the
scholastic hair splitting of the rabbinical class, became a popular
sect
among the Jewish Diaspora of traders and craftsman. Not really that
unique,
until . . . a set of chance events in Rome propelled this particular
cult
onto the stage as the official monotheism of the Roman Empire.

Given these origins, and notwithstanding all the additions from
Paul's
creation of the glorified Jesus, through St. Thomas, and the efforts
of all
those Holy Fathers to complicate things, and those busy beavers
Messieurs
Luther, Tillich and Barth etc , down to our times, . . . its not
much of a
stretch to think of Christians as "Jesus Jews."

Weekly Reader comes through again!

You should run for president.

Wolfgang

Terrorists on ROFF?
 

"David Snedeker" wrote in message
. ..

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

It is a character flaw. But it has no more to do with any garbled
religious
nonsense than it does with your own incoherent misunderstanding of
the
various brands of garbled religious nonsense. In the first place,
no
brand
of Christianity is any kind of primitive Judaism. SNIPSNIP

Sorry to bust your bubble but Jesus was an itinerant backwoods
Jewish
preacher serving mostly illiterate farmers and herders, with a
simplified
moral code adapted for people living close to the bone. He was one
of a
fairly common breed. He came to town and raised hell in the Temple
and was
crucified that year as the regular sacrificial example to other hell
raisers. The Romans crucified backwoods Jewish preachers before
Jesus and
they crucified backwoods Jewish hellraisers after Jesus.

Paul beat it out of town and worked up his own Jesus shtick which
caught on
among the lesser educated Jews who frequented the mostly social
gatherings
in the temples of the Northern Med. This simplified Judaism, minus
the
scholastic hair splitting of the rabbinical class, became a popular
sect
among the Jewish Diaspora of traders and craftsman. Not really that
unique,
until . . . a set of chance events in Rome propelled this particular
cult
onto the stage as the official monotheism of the Roman Empire.

Given these origins, and notwithstanding all the additions from
Paul's
creation of the glorified Jesus, through St. Thomas, and the efforts
of all
those Holy Fathers to complicate things, and those busy beavers
Messieurs
Luther, Tillich and Barth etc , down to our times, . . . its not
much of a
stretch to think of Christians as "Jesus Jews."

Weekly Reader comes through again!

You should run for president.

Wolfgang

Terrorists on ROFF?
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"David Snedeker" wrote in message
. ..

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

It is a character flaw. But it has no more to do with any garbled
religious
nonsense than it does with your own incoherent misunderstanding of
the
various brands of garbled religious nonsense. In the first place,
no
brand
of Christianity is any kind of primitive Judaism. SNIPSNIP

Sorry to bust your bubble but Jesus was an itinerant backwoods
Jewish
preacher serving mostly illiterate farmers and herders, with a
simplified
moral code adapted for people living close to the bone. He was one
of a
fairly common breed. He came to town and raised hell in the Temple
and was
crucified that year as the regular sacrificial example to other hell
raisers. The Romans crucified backwoods Jewish preachers before
Jesus and
they crucified backwoods Jewish hellraisers after Jesus.

Paul beat it out of town and worked up his own Jesus shtick which
caught on
among the lesser educated Jews who frequented the mostly social
gatherings
in the temples of the Northern Med. This simplified Judaism, minus
the
scholastic hair splitting of the rabbinical class, became a popular
sect
among the Jewish Diaspora of traders and craftsman. Not really that
unique,
until . . . a set of chance events in Rome propelled this particular
cult
onto the stage as the official monotheism of the Roman Empire.

Given these origins, and notwithstanding all the additions from
Paul's
creation of the glorified Jesus, through St. Thomas, and the efforts
of all
those Holy Fathers to complicate things, and those busy beavers
Messieurs
Luther, Tillich and Barth etc , down to our times, . . . its not
much of a
stretch to think of Christians as "Jesus Jews."

Weekly Reader comes through again!

You should run for president.


President? Hell, he just rewrote the New Testament in 200 words or less. He
ought to run for God!

--riverman
(or possibly for King James)

Terrorists on ROFF?
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"David Snedeker" wrote in message
. ..

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

It is a character flaw. But it has no more to do with any garbled
religious
nonsense than it does with your own incoherent misunderstanding of
the
various brands of garbled religious nonsense. In the first place,
no
brand
of Christianity is any kind of primitive Judaism. SNIPSNIP

Sorry to bust your bubble but Jesus was an itinerant backwoods
Jewish
preacher serving mostly illiterate farmers and herders, with a
simplified
moral code adapted for people living close to the bone. He was one
of a
fairly common breed. He came to town and raised hell in the Temple
and was
crucified that year as the regular sacrificial example to other hell
raisers. The Romans crucified backwoods Jewish preachers before
Jesus and
they crucified backwoods Jewish hellraisers after Jesus.

Paul beat it out of town and worked up his own Jesus shtick which
caught on
among the lesser educated Jews who frequented the mostly social
gatherings
in the temples of the Northern Med. This simplified Judaism, minus
the
scholastic hair splitting of the rabbinical class, became a popular
sect
among the Jewish Diaspora of traders and craftsman. Not really that
unique,
until . . . a set of chance events in Rome propelled this particular
cult
onto the stage as the official monotheism of the Roman Empire.

Given these origins, and notwithstanding all the additions from
Paul's
creation of the glorified Jesus, through St. Thomas, and the efforts
of all
those Holy Fathers to complicate things, and those busy beavers
Messieurs
Luther, Tillich and Barth etc , down to our times, . . . its not
much of a
stretch to think of Christians as "Jesus Jews."

Weekly Reader comes through again!

You should run for president.


President? Hell, he just rewrote the New Testament in 200 words or less. He
ought to run for God!

--riverman
(or possibly for King James)

Terrorists on ROFF?
 

On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:44:11 +0100, "riverman" wrote:


"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"David Snedeker" wrote in message
. ..

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

You should run for president.

Well, maybe, but I don't think that even if Karl Rove and James Carville teamed
up to pimp it and McCain and Clinton endorsed it that'd there'd be any way the
Snedeker/Farrakhan ticket would play in Peoria...


President? Hell, he just rewrote the New Testament in 200 words or less. He
ought to run for God!

Again, maybe, but with rw telling God what to do, I don't think ol' Sgt. Mitty
would go for it...

Anyhow, both were decent answers gentlemen, but mine's better:

Imperial Wizard.

HTH,
R

Terrorists on ROFF?
 

On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:44:11 +0100, "riverman" wrote:


"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"David Snedeker" wrote in message
. ..

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

You should run for president.

Well, maybe, but I don't think that even if Karl Rove and James Carville teamed
up to pimp it and McCain and Clinton endorsed it that'd there'd be any way the
Snedeker/Farrakhan ticket would play in Peoria...


President? Hell, he just rewrote the New Testament in 200 words or less. He
ought to run for God!

Again, maybe, but with rw telling God what to do, I don't think ol' Sgt. Mitty
would go for it...

Anyhow, both were decent answers gentlemen, but mine's better:

Imperial Wizard.

HTH,
R