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On Oct 11, 7:14*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

Then why are there tens of thousands of food pantries around the
country? *

Because you have an incompetent government which is more interested in
spending untold millions on illegal invasions and occupations of other
countries, and playing "world policeman", among other things, than it
is in looking after its own citizens.

The money which was wasted on this stupid election alone, regardless
of candidate or party would have fed, clothed, and housed many people
for a very long time.

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On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:44:09 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
But any
government worthy of the name can sure as hell make sure that *no*
person in this country *ever* has to go hungry. You can argue to the
contrary until you're blue in the face but you will be forever wrong.

Then why are there tens of thousands of food pantries around the
country? ...

Not enough government. Duh.

The government has already taken care of them, Ken. The bureaucracy
of government doesn't always work like you would like it to. The the
U.S. government ran this food pantry, the cost would be ten times
greater. If the State of Mass with our wonderful new out of control
spending governor ran it, it would cost twenty times more.

Dave

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:44:09 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
But any
government worthy of the name can sure as hell make sure that *no*
person in this country *ever* has to go hungry. You can argue to the
contrary until you're blue in the face but you will be forever wrong.
Then why are there tens of thousands of food pantries around the
country? ...
Not enough government. Duh.

The government has already taken care of them, Ken. ...

Then they shouldn't be hungry, or wanting for medical care or
living under a goddamn bridge for cryin' out loud. If you really
want to help the poor and indigent you ought to take the money
you spend on "charity" and donate it to the Democratic National
Committee. Unless your "charities" are the Red Cross or one of
the good international aid funds.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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On Oct 11, 9:04*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

*The bureaucracy
of government doesn't always work like you would like it to. *The the
U.S. government ran this food pantry, the cost would be ten times
greater. *If the State of Mass with our wonderful new out of control
spending governor ran it, it would cost twenty times more.

Dave

Entirely possible that you are correct, and yet knowing that, you
still spout endless bull**** in favour of a government and bureaucracy
you know to be ineffective and corrupt.

These things do not work as they should because people like you
condone and assist them, and allow them to continue. Your own
disgraceful and irresponsible behaviour reflects such double standards
and disgraceful conditions.

Your charity work is not only an attempt to buy approval, but also a
sop to your conscience for something you know to be wrong. You feel
guilty LaCourse, and you are. You also feel ashamed of your good
fortune, while others go hungry, but not even that stops you from
trying to exploit it to your own perceived advantage, or engaging in
other misbehaviour.

Hopefully your charitable activities do actually help a few people
despite your dubious motives, which are probably also mixed with a
genuine desire to help. Not many people are completely inured to
suffering when they see it.

I actually do feel somewhat sorry for you. Reading your posts reminds
me of a bull being led to the slaughter, and shaking its massive dumb
head in fear and anguish of the unknown, knowing full well that
something is wrong, but not knowing what, and powerless to change
anything.

You deliberately set out to upset and damage me LaCourse, but I find
that pricking you is merely distasteful.

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On Oct 11, 9:14*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Then they shouldn't be hungry, or wanting for medical care or
living under a goddamn bridge for cryin' out loud. If you really
want to help the poor and indigent you ought to take the money
you spend on "charity" and donate it to the Democratic National
Committee. Unless your "charities" are the Red Cross or one of
the good international aid funds.

--
Ken Fortenberry

You have never been poor have you? You don´t know what it means. All
you know is the gospel according to Ken Fortenberry. I thought you
must be a very evil person, but it seems you are also merely an
extremely ignorant, arrogant, bigoted, and completely self-centred
fool.

There is little one can do about that.

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On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:14:57 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Then they shouldn't be hungry, or wanting for medical care or
living under a goddamn bridge for cryin' out loud. If you really
want to help the poor and indigent you ought to take the money
you spend on "charity" and donate it to the Democratic National
Committee. Unless your "charities" are the Red Cross or one of
the good international aid funds.

Man, you gotta get out of the house, Ken. You don't know squat about
what is happening around you.

They get medical care, including Mark/wife. If I donated it to the
DNC it would go towards more liberal idiots in the Mass Statehouse,
more bureaucracy, more waste, more debt, more of everything we do not
need.

EOT. You can have the last word.

Dave

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
If it wasn't for all the food pantries around the state, many people
would go hungry. No one starves to death, but they do go hungry.
Almost all of our clients are on welfare, but that is not enough.
They are all getting aid from the state in some way or form.


this has veered WAY off the original topic, but this is a valuable
observation nonetheless. Food pantries and similar missions are suffering a
two-sided problem at the moment. Far more folks are showing up, and
donations have dropped in recent months, presumably due to economic
conditions. Liberal, conservative or whatever, anyone who can, should donate
what they can to these efforts. Many of your countrymen depend on these
places........now, I'll get off my soapbox.
Tom

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On Oct 11, 10:13*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:14:57 -0500, Ken Fortenberry

wrote:
Then they shouldn't be hungry, or wanting for medical care or
living under a goddamn bridge for cryin' out loud. If you really
want to help the poor and indigent you ought to take the money
you spend on "charity" and donate it to the Democratic National
Committee. Unless your "charities" are the Red Cross or one of
the good international aid funds.

Man, you gotta get out of the house, Ken. *You don't know squat about
what is happening around you.

They get medical care, including Mark/wife. *If I donated it to the
DNC it would go towards more liberal idiots in the Mass Statehouse,
more bureaucracy, more waste, more debt, more of everything we do not
need. *

EOT. *You can have the last word.

Dave

He doesn´t need to know squat about anything, he has the gospel
according to Fortenberry, and only he knows what is righteous and
good.

Seems you might actually be learning something LaCourse. Maybe there
is hope for you yet, stranger things have happened.

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Then they shouldn't be hungry, or wanting for medical care or
living under a goddamn bridge for cryin' out loud. If you really
want to help the poor and indigent you ought to take the money
you spend on "charity" and donate it to the Democratic National
Committee. Unless your "charities" are the Red Cross or one of
the good international aid funds.

Man, you gotta get out of the house, Ken. You don't know squat about
what is happening around you.

I just got back from a couple of weeks in northern Wisconsin
where the McCain signs outnumber the Obama signs 5 to 1 and
the redneck cheeseheads are just as dense as you. Food banks
are all fine and good but this will be a better country for
all of us, right wing rednecks included, when they are no
longer necessary.

You can't substitute voluntary charity stopgaps for governmental
responsibility. When times get tough and people need help the
most, that's precisely when the voluntary donations begin to dry
up.

Your whole privatize everything, small government, hands off,
Reaganista conservative movement is in its death throes. And not
a moment too soon.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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On Oct 11, 10:38*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message

...

If it wasn't for all the food pantries around the state, many people
would go hungry. *No one starves to death, but they do go hungry.
Almost all of our clients are on welfare, but that is not enough.
They are all getting aid from the state in some way or form.

this has veered WAY off the original topic, but this is a valuable
observation nonetheless. Food pantries and similar missions are suffering a
two-sided problem at the moment. Far more folks are showing up, and
donations have dropped in recent months, presumably due to economic
conditions. Liberal, conservative or whatever, anyone who can, should donate
what they can to these efforts. Many of your countrymen depend on these
places........now, I'll get off my soapbox.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

Doubtless true, at least to an extent, but as usual you simply fail to
see the obvious. Presumably a liar is more susceptible to liars? Or
mayhap simply assumes that others also lie? You should be asking
"Why?", and "How can this be changed?".

It would seem to many observers that you (collective), are not looking
for a president, but for a messiah. You will be disappointed, there
are no messiahs. Even if there were, crucifying them would not help
you.

The only people who can change things are YOU,( collective) with your
own behaviour, not what you expect or hope of others, and certainly
not by denigrating, defaming, or abusing them.

You have to want to help others, not just yourself, in the certain
knowledge that helping others also helps you. Although of course you
must try and ensure your own security before you can help others.
Wanting to help is useless if you can not do it, you must not only
have the will but also the means.

The effort some of you have expended here, in less than worthy
endeavours, might well have resulted in some amelioration of various
problems, had you only directed it in the correct manner.

Soapboxes are notoriously rickety constructions, unless they happen to
be full of soap, which you can then distribute to the "great
unwashed", which you might be surprised to discover are merely your
fellow men, who do not share your good fortune.